" Liberty is to the collective body, what health is to every individual body. Without health no pleasure can be tasted by man; without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society." Thomas Jefferson
Think about basic, but profound differences in the '08 and '12 elections.
Gov. Palin and the democrat hand-picked John McCain had to run against eight years of Bush/Cheney--while an unqualified, incompetent and unvetted Barack Obama--with no record, promised the moon.
Contrast that to Romney/Ryan, who don't have the "Bush burden", but do have four years of Obama/Biden failures.
How Romney is not up 10%-15% is beyond belief. (Having said that, it's quite possible he's up big, but Obama's bunch could be "buying" poll #'s or the media needs a close race--to keep ratings up. I personally wouldn't rule out either scenario.)
I personally think that the polling results, and the media coverage, are based on the predetermined result of the election. We always get a close election, and the voting results are produced electronically. I have seen specifically how they can do it, and without anyone questioning the actual tallies, unless it is a hanging chad state. They can even write the code so that the fraud code erases itself when it is finished, and therefor being undetectable after the fact.
The only way to get rid of Obama Care is by massive turnout for R & R ticket and then ripping it out via repeal and defunding. Obama will lose due to Medicare robbing & his massive gov take over with Obama Care. For anyone who wants to educate others on what is in Obama Care, this is great. It's FAR worse than we were told & Obama lied (as usual) about cost of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HcBaSP31Be8&vg=medium
Totally agree. The problem is that Harry Reid won his last election via the most obvious election fraud that has ever manifested in American politics. This is now prevalent enough to maintain establishment control in either the house or the senate, but more easily in the senate. All they have to do is keep one stop gap in the process, and Obama Care lives on. This is how the establishment rolls.
The way I understand it, is that if the senate blocks any repeal bill from going to the president, then the president would have to abuse his power, as Obama has, to do anything about it. The American people seem to get so desperate that they actually call for illegality to take place. Mean while, the establishment gets what they want, which is more power and control, and a growing atmosphere of criminal behavior in which they have immunity.
The only way to correct this problem is to shut down the electronic voting and counting machines, and go back to hand counted ballots, where the counties report, publicly, the totals. After this happens, we would finally see larger win and loss margins in elections, and we would have a real change in the senate and the house toward major conservative majorities.
Fall in love with your country again! http://www.vevo.com/watch/brooks-and-dunn/only-in-america/USAV60300006 Kicks & Dunn song from background music at Ryan event.
When Romney or Ryan are speaking about Obama they ought to have Ronnie Dunns song "Cost of Livin" playing in the background.
When referring to Obama, the should automatically cue circus music.
The afro part might be a bit much, but the music is good for the point.
http://via.me/-472lipg#!/-46wm0jc Pics from this event.
... #OccupyTheTruth at Cayahoga bridge that #occupy tried to blow up http://pic.twitter.com/QOJeLi2S We don't need the media anymore since they are unreliable. If Obama shuts down the net with his Ex. Order, we will use radio. If they shut that down, we'll use Morse code. if they shut that down, we'll use homing pigeons. If they shut that down, we will use horses & letters. WE WILL NOT BE SILENT! We are the people that Hoffa told Obama he'd take out. ENOUGH.
Mrs. Ryan (Paul's mom) with Secret Service. God bless the Ryan & Romney families and keep them safe!
I see why Mitt Romney chose Paul Ryan. He can communicate with with everyone and on all levels. I think this was a great opportunity to talk to seasoned citizens and explain to them what is really happening with Medicare under Obama. He was awesome!
Good speech and nice to see his Mum with him. Even though this was a senior's village, there seemed to be some who still weren't aware of 0zero's theft of their money from Medicare, judging by the crowd reaction. Now they do know and can spread the word!
I thought his pandering was a tad too obvious. I think the people will understand the message without it having to be thrown in the face. YMMV
Your comment, Stewie, is disgustingly unperceptive. You wish to see what you want to see and not what is right before your eyes and ears. "[Pa]ndering . . . too obvious?" Ryan understands -- as most politicians do but have NO courage to say -- that America's unfunded liabilities are destructive to our fiscal health and to our liberty; that cronyism and the entitlement mentality pervasive in our nation WILL leave the coming generations in a markedly poorer and significantly less secure environment.
What BETTER time to discuss the role that MEDICARE is playing in leading America over the fiscal cliff than before an audience for whom Medicare has REAL-life meaning? And you call that pandering? In order to get our fiscal house in order, Medicare must be FIXED; but with the liberal, lying, and obfuscating media and the fear-mongering from OBAMA that passes as discussion, the elderly CAN'T hear the truth, much less vote RESPONSIBLY and intelligently so that they themselves can become part of the solution rather than part of the problem -- by caving to fear and grasping at REAL PANDERERS, "saviors" with swords in their hands: IPAB and the politicians who put it in place.
What do you mean by pandering? Are you referring to his pushing socialism for generations to come to a crowd who is largely dependent on it?
IMO, there was no need to address the audience as though they were a mixed crowd. He was in 'The Villages', not at a stadium. I thought the early move to poll the audience's age was transparent and tacky. That is all.
It seemed to me that Ryan's motive was to give a visual image to the statement, "Our plan will not change anything for people 55 or older."
Those are only words when imbedded in the rhetoric of a political speech but come to life when spoken at a gathering of the actual people they address. From that standpoint, it was a brilliant strategy and accomplished the purpose of his rally.
I thought asking everyone to raise their hands was clever and cute.
Disclaimer: Im close to 55, and I couldnt see myself living in a "retirement community" , and I wouldnt raise my hand if asked that question.
It is silly, it was enough for me to turn it off though. And as I posted in my original post. Your Mileage May Vary- in other words, you may see it differently.
Lord - this is silly. Really silly. The guy asked people who were 55 and older to raise their hands. Yes its the villages. So what!!??? That's pandering? In case your didn't know pandering is a base thing to do.
Which definition of pandering do you think is appropriate here? You choose:
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp.
2. a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others.
3. a go-between in amorous intrigues.
I think that pandering is just what he hasn't done. He and Romney have given pretty much the same speech since last week. They are driving the message home. Medicare is something the Libs will demonize Conservatives on, over and over and time and again. He addresses it, explains the Romney Plan, exposes the lie at the heart of Obamacare and he is pandering?!!
Please....get real, get substantive and stop tossing silly words about in an effort to sound like you are trying to "stand back and be objective".
How about this for objectivity - Obama is destroying our country, economically, socially and constitutionally. So am I pandering now?
Did you like his hair? Did you think the microphone looked too much like an ice cream cone? What about those US Flags in the back. The red stripes were a little to stark and so were the white huh?
I think you complaining is a little too namby pamby. How about that?
Does legitimate criticism chap your rear a little?
I think the answer is obvious. Love the centerpiece of your comment though......you must love to set up an insult. I'm glad you didn't use your usual incoherent babble.
Illustrative is one of the first words that come to mind.
Not knowing you were Ozzie, I said Ozzie is a "real contributor here".
You, knowing exactly who I was, called what I write "incoherent babble", and me personally, "arrogant and nasty", across the board.
Inadvertently the truth was smoked out wasn't it? I had a much higher opinion of you than you have of me.
Had I known it was you, I would have ignored your initial comment as a hypercritical, without cause, misstep, on a bad day. My initial comment in response was good humored ribbing.
I guess that gnawing problem you have with me was just teetering on the surface looking for an escape. I hope you feel better. Confession is good for the soul. I suppose I'll just keep being me and you can keep being whoever you are whether it be single-faced or two.
It is absolutely me....same guy. Name change just took effect, changed it earlier this week, but somewhere between Twitter and Disqus, there is some lag.
FTR- I didn't change my name to troll, I changed it so that it wouldn't be plainly obvious to people I forward links. I don't like politics mixing with friends, and this way I feel comfortable spreading links to my buddies with a little privacy.
I thought the icon would be plenty obvious, but it wasn't. Your last paragraph in the post I'm responding to is exactly the problem. I think I do a pretty good job being respectful to the community, even those I disagree with, so I absolutely don't like getting pounced on, especially for something so minor. I'll leave it at that.
You still here? By the way, your silly complaint wasn't even true either. I prefer truth to BS. Most folks do. Did you not jump on Ryan, and for nothing? You're right though, that wasn't arrogant, it was simply foolish.
In addition, you are using the same avatar as Ozzie...a real contributor here.
Finally, if you need to be able to understand my "incoherent babble", keep a dictionary and encyclopedia with you at all times while reading them. It'll help with comprehension, assuming you can understand even those.
I am flattered that you are a self-styled Rshill7 expert. I have no idea who you are, nor do I care. When you say something worthy of respect, you'll get it from me. Otherwise, this is the first post I've ever noticed from you.
I didn't miss anything. You have a habit on jumping on people that have a differing opinion, and you do so in a nasty arrogant way. Bully someone else.
Legitimate criticism is fine. Yours is namby pamby though. Maybe you missed that part. I was illustrating your absurdity. You missed that too.
The candidates are talking about what they know, topics that they have studied and are experts on. Romney and Ryan are talking about medicare, jobs, the economy and the national debt.
Obama is waxing poetic about "Chicago's hot dogs".
Biden has been sent back to Delaware and told to STFU.
All in all it's been a good week.
Love this and I love Ryan's mom. He could not have framed the American dream any better than he did with the generational inclusion he used. His mom did build it! She didn't live off of the gov't when times were tough, she invested in herself and did what she needed to do to raise her children successfully, worked through school, took care of her mom and her children and built a business. Way to go Betty Ryan!
like watching paint dry.
here's a former governor giving a master class on how to speak at the Villages http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiFjiozjWU
Sarah=75K ryan<30K so sad too bad.
I don't understand your point. So go write in Palin and continue to hang your hat on that and see how it works out.
Watched it all on Fox. I am really impressed by the RR Campaign's strategy. Ryan does a great job of telling his personal story, allowing people to get to know him. Bringing his mom on a campaign stop at The Villages was absolutely brilliant!
"And mom - you did build that" (that line never gets old!)
The visual - "Everyone 55 and over raise your hand" - they need to do that at every single campaign stop.
There are some signs of optimism
1. McCain, was a terrible campaigner, surrounded by incompetent handlers. Romney I'm sure is way better at using campaign funds
2. Romney 's operation is improved from six years ago, and apparently George W. Bush wasn't impressed with McCain's set up in the 2008 primaries and Romney's was better even then....so it has to be capable of blindsiding the Dems
Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of Obama;
by this point grumbling about "this or that" about the ticket is a waste of time.
Being on here is refreshing. I'm glad RS recognizes those that come here from another site to spew their hatred and anger and makes them gone. I guess I'm with ya too on that.
Yes, we are, CL. That's why I'm here just like you. I can't take negativity and bashing ... its just not productive. I guess that makes me a RINO, LOL.
by this point grumbling about "this or that" about the ticket is a waste of time.
So true, Reck! Glad to see that we are the same page with this one.
Or as we like to say the Mc Cain shuffle.
Why he did what he did in 2008 will always be a mystery to me…It's like he just gave up.