I know many of you are sad, but I am really pissed off and the problem is beyond Romney. I am pissed off at the GOP establishment, RINOs and pundits who serve their own self-interest instead of the interest of our party.
This is not the end of the world...things happen for a reason and perhaps this may end up being a blessing in disguise. The republican party is in for a rude awakening and I will no longer support RINO candidates. I have a lot more respect for Romney than I did several months ago, but he isn't the avenger we desperately needed.
Don't you get it? The country wasn't open to a tea party candidate or it would have picked one-our problem is our moral fiber in this country-even among conservatives has gone to pot! There are so many divisions in the conservative/Republican people-it does make sense that this all happened-if the left is nothing else it is unified in its ways for better or worse and unification will get you farther than division-plus the press rules and they let us know it tonight! I hope there will still be voices that speak the truth but I am concerned that the penalties will be much greater this time around for those that do!
Exactly. 50% of the country wants more entitlements- on demand abortions no matter what, worry free immigration, Gun control, God control, PC correctness....and more taxes. Less freedom for a few free perks . Oh and they wouldn't mind free health care either. No thanks, but how do you win running against that?
Are you kidding?? We didn't pick our candidate...the establishment did by pushing Romney and trashing the other GOP candidates.
We need a serious conservative candidate next time. Someone who will make the message clear. When conservatism is spoken clearly and honestly we win every time. For ex. Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, and Rubio. Romney is good, but he was not the best conservative choice and did not make the distinction clear. Still Romney is way better than O will ever be.
Candidate isn't the problem. Reagan would have lost. Mitt had nearly same % of the demos. But 88% of whites in '80 an 74% now. Last I checked the national vote was 300K off. 300K! This isn't a candidate problem.
BTW, exit polls said auto bailout was very popular in Ohio and by a small margin still blamed Bush for economy.
Now live Bill Whittle's Stratosphere Lounge
It's about what next ....
Unless I'm reading the poll wrong Allen West looks to be losing by 1K with 97% of the votes in. Can anyone confirm?
I see here http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/FederalOffices/Representative/ about the same:
West: 154,392 49.84%
Opponent : 155,366 50.16%
This is a classy man.
I can't believe that half the country voted for the other guy .
Oh Lord, sob (tear drop), I just cannot believe that Romney is giving his concession speech. This is unreal. We must not stop. This sob (son of b), Barry must be arrested for treason tomorrow. We must press forward. I love all of you guys here @ Scoop!
I agree with those of you who think something is strange with the vote counts. When I saw Romney's rallys on TV, the excited people in attendance vs. the people at Obama's rallys, some leaving early at a Virginia rally...it just isn't adding up. It is VERY hard to believe that Romney has received less votes than McCain!
My God is still where He always is. I completely trust Him in all things. I am glad He is Almighty and not mere man as some would think dear leader is.
Still here and in control of the world!! Didn't you know that? My peace rests not in America but in Him who created the WORLD!!!
My God is still on His throne, in complete control. I'd like for you to get to know Him!
You might find these words of Lincoln of interest during this dark time:
[Note: spoken in 1839]
"Many free countries have lost their liberty, and ours may lose hers; but if she shall, be it my proudest plume, not that I was the last to desert, but that I never deserted her.
I know that the great volcano at Washington, aroused and directed by the evil spirit that reigns there, is belching forth the lava of political corruption in a current broad and deep, which is sweeping with frightful velocity over the whole length and breadth of the land, bidding fair to leave unscathed no green spot or living thing; while on its bosom are riding, like demons on the waves of hell, the imps of that evil spirit, and fiendishly taunting all those who dare resist its destroying course with the hopelessness of their effort; and, knowing this, I cannot deny that all may be swept away.
Broken by it I, too, may be; bow to it I never will. The probability that we may fall in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just; it shall not deter me.
If ever I feel the soul within me elevate and expand to those dimensions not wholly unworthy of its almighty Architect, it is when I contemplate the cause of my country deserted by all the world beside, and I standing up boldly and alone, and hurling defiance at her victorious oppressors.
Here, without contemplating consequences, before high heaven and in the face of the world, I swear eternal fidelity to the just cause, as I deem it, of the land of my life, my liberty, and my love.
And who that thinks with me will not fearlessly adopt the oath that I take? Let none falter who thinks he is right, and we may succeed. But if, after all, we shall fail, be it so. We still shall have the proud consolation of saying to our consciences, and to the departed shade of our country's freedom, that the cause approved of our judgment, and adored of our hearts, in disaster, in chains, in torture, in death, we never faltered in defending."
President Abraham Lincoln, Speech, Springfield, Illinois, Dec 20, 1839. I, 137, in Archer H. Shaw, The Lincoln Encyclopedia (New York: Macmillan, 1950), p. 64. Full quote from Project Gutenberg
I would not fight Obamacare either, I would allow everything in Obamacare to pass through, even dodd frank, I think there has to be full fledged liberalism in this country. I think we should vote for all of Obama's bills. I believe this is the only way we can get conservatism back. Problem in this country is that conservatives have protected this country from the pain of liberalism. Taxes need to go up, govt. needs to increase in size.
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity.
Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice?
And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - Speech Sept. 17, 1796 - George Washington
How do you get a hold of a country- you start with the children. You take God out of the classroom and teach godless values. Look at Hitler's youth and communism and red China- they all get a hold of the youth.
Lack of fearing and loving God, breakdown of the family and shirking of civic responsibility by conservatives are all elements, the first part in this list being key. Changed hearts are needed if pro-life, pro-family conservatives are to be put forward as viable candidates. God's life-altering Gospel is needed in the hearts and minds of Americans.
My signs will be up thru the weekend and I will for once leave them on the car, Harley and scooter. I usually remove them. I am going to stand firm and be proud that I voted for freedom. And this time I will say " don't blame me, I didn't vote him" I don't usually like to say I told you so, but tonight I look forward to the day I hear someone whine about their plight when they voted in more debt and less freedom.
All the rats are suddenly out of the woodworks and the night hasnt even finished.
Most important agenda this country is facing is Gay Marriage, More abortion and legal Marijuana.
Gay marriage, abortion or pot has NO relevance when we end up like Greece. None.
If we don't get our economy going NOTHING else will have even an ounce of importance!!
FOX just posted totals for the country - I know the votes aren't all in yet with the west coast and Alaska/Hawaii, but roughly 49 million each for Obama and Romney? I understand Obama getting 21 million less than '08, but Romney getting 11 million less than McCain? Now I know something's up with the election polling. There needs to be an investigation.
How does one go about auditing a nation-wide election? It's the only answer, but darned if I know how it would be done. Then again - the, political will would have to be there to do it, and so far there's been precious little of that from our side. The people would have to have mass demonstrations, starting this week, to force one...
The problem is that we can't - not without an honest media. And we know where this media stands. What we need is a counter-revolution of sorts. Not a violent overthrow, but a resistence of the WWII nature. We must now consider ourselves a minority and endangered. That is the only way to survive.
Obama will take this nation down. It won't last four more years like the last four. I just watched Bill Whittle's Stratosphere Lounge and he was talking about a parallel society, where we allow Obama his dues and build our own infrastructure and lifestyle on the side.
I like Bill, but this idea won't ever work. What he failed to see was that no matter what we do, Obama's government will continue to tax us more and more until we have nothing. Ideal societies like that are like saying "leave the radical Muslims alone and they will leave us alone". No they won't. They will destroy us.
So we need to find a way to take over this country our own way. I heard West lost his race in Florida (yeah, it just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it). He is the perfect man to head a new party which we need to build from the ashes of what we left behind. It will materialize as we go. More on that later.
Until then, everybody better learn how to be survivalists (I already have) because things are going to collapse down the road, probably before we can ever stop it now.
We already know - He lost. he will make an excellent choice for our new top man in the new party, though. Plenty of time to work toward 2016, if 2016 ever gets here that is. I suspect the effects of Dec.21st, 2012 will get here first.
You are right - the enemedia kills all. One small glimmer is that we won't know how LTC West did until early morning - but if he does not win, then that just hardens my conviction that our people across the board (with a very few exceptions) had their elections stolen from them. Survival camp, here I come...
He may have,and we can not blame Him for it... but we're not forever in darkness if we know Jesus. Be still and know that He is God. He never forsakes His own.
I do wonder if we are being punished. God has allowed Obama to stay in power, even though it seemed impossible for him to win. I don't even know what to think now. I really don't want to live in this country anymore; this is not my America.