The Right Scoop
Yes, because his record is that of a f***king commie. Do you even have the ability to read, or did someone tell you what I posted?
Newt is the only candidate who has said that in order to defeat Obama and undo what he has done to this point we will need a Republican House, Senate and White House.
Newt has a plan and he knows what pieces he needs to defeat Obama and the Progressive agenda.
You say that as if Newt should have had the ability to see the future when he voted. Have you personally ever made a poor decision, albeit with good intentions?
They were discussing the serious physical and emotional conditions of returning military at 27:50 or so, Santorum makes a great point about Obama cutting military benefits and budget saying, "...that's disgusting." (big applause)
In an earlier debate, Newt also got applause when he said he wanted to make it possible for Vets to get better care than having to travel to get sometimes second-rate care in VA hospitals out of state.
How about nutcase Ron Pauls ideas on Iran for one. Ideas about its all the USA fault number two and three ''the cherry on top of the Nutcase'' ''if we leave the terrorist alone they will leave us alone''.
Face it. Ron Paul is dangerous because his isolationist appeasing foreign policy is on the same level as Neville Chamberlands and look what happened with that world outlook. (i.e. World War 2)
Romney is a progressive and he admits it himself and he is proud he is an unconventional Republican with progressive views. Those are his own words!
The complete bias of these debates is disgusting. Gingrich has not done better than 4th place so far and there he is center stage bloviating. A bag of hot air. And when the crowd demanded that King allow Paul to respond to the pro-life question, King acted surprised that anyone would care to hear anything Dr. Paul had to say. These people need to find new careers somewhere and let some real journalists get jobs.
Here is a link to the abortion issue debated between the candidates last night:
http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?/tab/live#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1
There is a constitutional point related to abortion that they differ on. Santorum believes the 'right to privacy' was manufactured by the government/judges (which it was, its no where in the constitution). Ron Paul believes it is explicitly in the constitution, but shouldn't apply for matters of abortion/contraception/things he doesn't think its relevent to.
Which is not to infer that Santorum believes government has the free power to invade provacy - it cannot - as its still bound by the constitution. But its its general powers of operation/providing for the general welfare happened to brush up against personal provacy (say, telling you you can't murder your child through abortive contraceptive pills as it infringes on the unalienable right to life) -
Santorum would say "Government has the right to enforce laws to stop morning after contraceptives/abortive pills" as they infringe on life -
Ron Paul has said "It's up to everyone's personal moral choice' and that personal 'privacy' trumps murder in that specific case.
Re: Abortion - Go back to the Thanksgiving debate that was held in a church and the one before or after that. The clip may be available here @TRS in the archives.
Gingrich has a viable idea that would use (the 4th amendment?) to restore constitutional protection on unborn human beings.
You should go back and read up on some history. Pretty much everything you say is silly when you put it in a historical context. If you knew anything about what's going on in the world, you would never utter such nonsense. Ron Paul will be such a disaster than anything you think he will do domestically won't matter.
Santorum on abortion:
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (This is very good/perfect record. Ron Paul's ratings occillate between 35-75%).
Rated 100% by the NLRC (Perfect Score.) Ron scores 56% 'mixed record'.
http://www.issues2000.org/Rick_Santorum.htm
http://www.issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm
Naral gave them both a shot out for being pro-life candidates this year though:
They didn't rank them in porder/pit them against eachother, so its hard to know which one the group favors - everyone on the list they support except Rudy Gulliani, apparently.
Rick Santorum did receive the endorsement of the Family Research Council (social conservatives), however, as well as Penny Nance from Concerned Women for America (A pro-life group), and Abby Johnson's endorsement (former Planned Parenthood worker turned major pro-life advocate).
Conservapedia has the theory that National Right has not yet made an endorsement as "The delay in pro-life endorsements is probably to await Santorum dropping out of the race." :P They are thinking Romney and Gingrich will be the last two standing I think.
After sleeping on it...here is what I am thinking:
Rick Santorum comes out ahead of the rest in my estimation.
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He is very aware of the real enemies of the US: A. our collective sin/moral collapse and corruption. B. Islam...the economy cannot be fixed without dealing with the first.
He is completely dedicated to helping rectify our real problems.
He has a Biblical worldview and holds to it (unlike Romney)
He is competent, is an attorney, legislator, understands government
He has strength of character, moral integrity, sincerity, earnestness.
He has political integrity, consistency, experience.
He is a hard worker, gets in the trenches
He studies issues and tries to do the right/best thing
He is a no-nonsense personality, cuts to the chase, reads people well.
He is mindful of the real needs of real people, small business, mfg.
He is a faithful, true, good father and husband...Christ in his own home.
He does not rely on charisma or externals, does not bow to criticism.
He was willing to admit that he struggled in the area of sanctity of life dealing with his daughter's illness.
His wife is also an attorney, who stayed at home to be a mother, homeschooling their children and she is also a real, loving, humane human being.
His main backer is a balanced, sincere, evangelical Christian.
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- Newt - knows what is at stake - but can/will he deliver what he says? Can he be elected? Should he meet with Santorum, suspend his campaign, serve as a campaign Think Tank resource? Is Santorum more electable? Maybe SC will tell. Whatever they decide, maybe he (and Sarah Palin and other true conservatives) should go around and debate/lecture/teach government and history and tell the truth behind Obama's campaign of lies.
- Romney scares me. He should not be president. He is an appeaser and has never stood strong on any issue. He is also a high level cult-leader, as well as a member of the corrupt political, financial elite. They are not just corrupt, they have had an evil stranglehold on currency and banking, every part of our financial lives. That's who owns him and will run him. He will be their puppet. They do not serve the Lord and have dismissed and betrayed and persecuted His church...compromising God's commandments for their own ends. (think Clintons, Bushes, McCain). This nation will only survive if we return to God's Law/Word/Ten Commandments and laws that agree with it. Period.
- Paul scares me - not his economic or foreign policy (much of what he says about all that is true) It's his goal of legalizing and ending the war on drugs and sex-trafficking with the present invasion of the Islam-rabid Zetas and Ndranghetas and their demonized hordes is INSANE and extremely dangerous to the security of this nation. He is a theorist and academic..he has no idea how to implement anything and how it would work out in practice. He would be better off advising on economic policies...and hopefully.
All that being said, any are better than Obama.
This election a dangerous four-way contest (war) between
- Those currently in power - the Islamist/black-supremacist/Marxists/social leftists who are bent on persecuting the church and all whites.
- The Old Guard Elite, power and wealth-mongers, power-brokers, who have betrayed the truth, disregarded God's Law/Commandments for their own ends, have allowed abortion, traded our security for oil, they are willing to make money on drugs, alcohol, abortion, sell our nation for their pottage, etc.
- The large secular politically-spiritually-ignorant people (center, left and right) who live by their media-fed passions/appetites/addictions and who care more about the media's latest war game, hit TV show and/or Air Jordans. (there are many.) They are easily manipulated by externals, media manipulation.
- Those who know, love and serve God and live by His Word.
So - Obama's opposition is fractured and he is ready with a thousand and one evil tricks, from no photo IDs to a third party candidate, probably Trump (an ego-driven Democrat liberal shill) or Cain (whose hunger for attention and non-Islamic MLK-AA supporters don't want him to bow out.).
They will stop at nothing - violence, threats, nuclear mischief, biological, cyber warfare, anarchy/military rule, with them, nothing is off the table.
God Help America, a nation with ideals worth saving. She is like Israel so many times throughout Scripture, shattered and soiled by sin, greed, idolatry. Repentance and return are the only way to peace. But it will take a miracle for this to happen. The enemy (even the marxists, Islamists, drug cartels as well as the others) have already infiltrated all levels of power, law enforcement, military, courts, congress, intelligence.
All in all, we Christians will always seek a country, church, a house, whose builder and maker is God. In Him is true peace, security, unity of soul and nation, the only comfort and strength. He can only unite and restore us one soul at a time. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
Santorum got Schooled several times by Newt.......I am thinking maybe he isn't ready to play in the big Leagues.
Who the hell are you to make those statements as fact? At least have the manners to say it's your perception. No, ol' dougie calls all of us ignorant and lays down the law. Sorry, that's not discussion.
I'll follow your lead. Your opinion is just plain arrogant nonsense. Newt's numbers at their best have been almost double any other candidate at their best. Except in New Hampshire and Michigan Romney is a glass of warm milk. No excitement. For darn good reason. He cannot defend himself without a prepared answer. He is a brilliant business man. He returned averages of 30 - 50 percent on capital per year when he ran Bain. Genius. As a politician he sucks!
There's a damn good reason ABC and the MSM is trying to take Newt out like they did Cain. He's too dangerous to the Traitor in Chief. Obama would look like a whimpering child in a debate with Newt. Myself, I can't wait. The ratings will be through the roof! The whole country will see that phony ass get his clock cleaned. The stammering will be legend.
You know, I wasn't even meaning his age. OK maybe a little, but I wasn't focused on it. I was actually going to say spit, but that didn't sound right :-)
I know- I felt a little bit sorry for that, but I let it stand. I'm in one of those moods tonight.
They all get points from each other- from being around each other for so long.... osmosis thing going on I think. ;-)
Me either, but I was referring to the part about mittens claiming to start from the bottom. There's nothing wrong with a privilaged upbringing. There's nothing really wrong with him working hard- but I do have to wonder about the cronyism. That's what I meant by being disingenuine.
I think I've got one of those- I tried to get back on once and couldn't remember my password, then when I tried to reset, it said I didn't have an account. When I tried to set up and account, it said my e mail address was already taken. I'm not blonde Joe, but I swear sometimes I feel like one ;-)
Note especially at 36 sec. mark. I could never vote for mittens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes&feature=related
Sorry about the time edit
I'd post it on every thread if Scoop allowed it. But I did post a different one on the Santorum rips Romney a new one on romney care ;-)
I thought Canada was just a territory of the United States? You mean it actually has a government and is considered a country!?
Just kidding!
Ditto on poljunkie, Nukefriend, and PAWatcher. Without your comments, Scoop would be no fun ~no offense Scoop! :-) ~ and I wouldn't have such a good friend and encouraging brother.
Nothing wrong with success and hard work- but mittens has a way of being disengeniune about it. <3
I don't know about this. I wasn't crazy about him in the first place & he's really getting pretty obnoxious. Glancing around, he doesn't really seem to be winning many hearts (or at least, as of now). I think he let Iowa go to his head.
In spite of Newt's delicious beginning, this debate was kinda anti-climactic. Santy's constant attacks kinda sucked all the substance out of it for me.
just my .02
Must Watch: Sh*t Liberals Say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uAuuQnh90s I'm sure some of you heard some of them, others might have heard ALL of them.
My response was to someone who was criticizing Paul's position as being stupid because he does not support a federal law but thinks it is a state issue. I have always been pro-choice because people will have abortions whether it is legal or not and I believe it is a choice of the individual and that individual's God. However, I do agree that is violence against life. Back when we passed Roe vs Wade we did not have sonograms. Now we do and it is obvious that an abortion is a taking of a life.
I'm a Paulbot and I love the way the audience demanded they let Paul respond to the abortion issue. They were just going to blow him off again. This debate was better than the Fox one and the audience was more balanced also. That Fox debate was horrible in all ways.
Im not a Paul supporter. Frankly im without a candidate right now because my guy dropped out today. But is it true that Dr Paul has delivered over 3000 babies and not one abortion? That's impressive.
Actually, the figure is over 4000 babies. He is pro-life. He tells the story of an incident early in his medical career. He walked into a room where a woman was having an abortion; the fetus was 6 mos. and alive. He witnessed the doctors throw the fetus in a bucket and let it die. This made an unforgettable impression on him. He considers abortion an act of violence.
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