K-Bob, I wish these threads would have more life than just a couple of days. Your message is clear, and I can see you've done your thinking about it. I think it might work, but we need to start right now, not three years from now. Signs for the yard, bumper stickers, community groups, a billboard or two, here and there over time, social media. I like it.
Let's try to keep it alive.
Heh. I might not go so far as to accuse me of "thinking about it." It just sort of happened, somewhere between by brain and my fingers pounding the keyboard.
I want everyone to think about it because it's just an idea, and ideas have to get the snot beat out of them to be any good. (Because the really good ones, they fight back on their own.)
But we do need to keep it rolling. After I finish my current project (top sekrit!), I'll spend more time on it. Probably in February. Until then, though, we can beat it up reeel good here in open threads and West threads, which Scoop seems to provide with regularity.
And by "regularity," I mean the kind of regularity that keeps the laxative industry in business. (Just kidding, Scoop.)
West/Newt, West /Bachmann, West/Santorum, West/Palin, West/Keyes, West/Cruz...So many great choices but no more "hold your nose" campaigns like we had with mccain and rmoney.
At 4.0, Allen West calls the Democrats out on using character assassination (Alinsky tactics) instead of debating the issues.
The interviewer begins arguing with him and accusing him of being abrasive and of calling the Democrats communists.
That should not be her place as a journalist. She was interviewing with an agenda: to make him look bad.
West is absolutely right about the need for ELECTION REFORM!!!
When a man can go on TV and brag that he voted four times and when 114% of some districts voted, something stinks.
We need to have computerized Voter ID Registry so that people can only vote once and stop illegal aliens, fictitious and dead people from voting.
We need to end crooked voting machines.
Stop the corruption, foreign interference and influence in our government.
Get the permanent political class out of DC.
The reasoning behind Vote West!
The Republican party is dead: to begin with. There is no doubt whatever about that.
Reality: we are now in a post-cliff election cycle. Why? Because the cliff over which Mr. Obama has determined to take us, will be behind us (mostly) by 2016. I wish that were good news for the 2016 candidates.
As we saw in both hurricanes Sandy & Katrina, the collapse of Lehman Brothers & the housing bubble, and the epic failure of "green energy," things inevitably grow worse in the period after a major disruption. I'm sorry my friends, but we do face harder times ahead—in the period after Obama has skated out of office, leaving us with the worst economy in world history. The question on most political observers' minds is: what do we do about it? How can we possibly make this nation whole again, after the ruin of Obama?
The first step to recovery is to recognize the new reality. Things already no longer work the same way as they did before. The election results of November proved that fact, with ineluctable certainty. Things will be even more different, post-cliff. (And let's be clear, the "cliff" isn't the "fiscal cliff" the media are distracting you with; no, the cliff is the economic ruin we face, thanks to the accelerated borrowing and hyper-accelerated spending by the Progressive Left—which sadly includes too many Republicans). The Republicans have, in fact, contributed to the problem by going along with this slow, national, suicide-by-debt program begun before most of us were born.
The failure of Republicans is what allowed for an Obama to happen. After all, it's not like we thought the leftists actually cared about the nation's future when they decided money was some magical, fungible, infinite resource, and that reality was whatever they wished it to be.
We all knew we would end up facing this cliff, and yet the Republican leadership (and party apparatus) felt it was possible that some of us would survive the fall, so they sold us—and continue to sell us—on a permanently damaged republic, as if that would somehow excuse the foolishness of trying to compromise with destruction itself. When the plane is out of gas, there can be no compromise between trying to land it, and letting it crash. And yet several voices on the right are already trying to tell us this is not so.
Add to this pathetic history the fact that, since Ronald Reagan showed how to win and how to govern, we have been subjected to Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain, and now Romney as the preferred candidates of the party elite. Not one single man from that list was a proponent of Restoration. None of them ever bothered to explain or invite the public to understand the principles embodied in the Constitution. They have ALL been willing to let it weaken, in some mad belief that compromise is the acceptance of a portion of death in a life-or-death struggle. This is why Obama happened.
Unfortunately the world is now in peril because Obama happened, and the Republicans bear much of the blame—for failure to engage and defeat the progressive left. We cannot endure this any longer. Liberty is dying, and the alternative is so bad that I hereby accept and endorse the dictum of Patrick Henry without reservation. I believe most of you do, too.
So the question that comes next is, can we really take over the Republican party in time to restore the republic, or must we form a third party?
I was open to both concepts until the last few weeks of rising tyranny have made the present reality unedurable. Republicans have continued to behave as though the old wisdom prevails, and we can modify the party and moderate our way to success. It is the belief in winning without risk, in order to be in a position to make change. But the failure to risk more on a conservative candidate is why we lost this election. This is obvious to any student of history. Instead we are offered excuses by the armload from the party believers and consultants. We are again asked to accept a little more death in order to survive to win another day. As I wrote elsewhere, observing these Republicans really is like watching the ship's screw continue to turn in midair, just before the vessel begins it's nosedive into the finality of Davy Jones's embrace.
I'm afraid the Republican party cannot be overtaken in one cycle. It is a dead thing, rotting from the neck up. It leaves nothing to overtake.
But a third party is a perilous undertaking. Ask anyone: they always fail.
(Until they don't, of course. See for example, Lincoln, Abraham.)
But I had this idea...
What if we, the voters trapped on the Republican side of the ballot, simply ignored the party, ignored the primary process, ignored their posturing and pleading, and simply informed them that we are voting for Allen West in 2016?
What if we, the voters, bought or made our own signs that say Vote West! and tell that to the Republicans whenever they start in with politics for the coming year? We tell Iowa that we're picking West now and they can get on board or miss the boat entirely.
We tell the GOP we aren't interested in their "process." Just West. Get on board, or be left behind.
When they begin early polling: Vote West!
When they ask for contributions to any PAC: Vote West!
Just one response to any and everything the Republicans do for the next few years: Vote West! If they get on board, then good for them. If not, then they can get the heck out of our way.
Here's why I think this can work:
1) Nobody has to be in charge. We all just act, on our own.
2) Allen West need not be "nominated" for this to work. We all act, on our own.
3) If we do not cloud this by insisting on any particular VP (I'd love for it to be Palin), and instead leave the selection up to West, then we gain more focus, more power, and more punch to cut through the media. Just make it a Vote West! concept.
4) By not bothering with the waste of time involved in "forming" and then organizing a third party, we focus all of our energy and capital on getting Allen West into the White House.
5) George Washington was made president without campaigning. We do have a precident.
6) The tightness of this message will cut through the media.
7) The lack of insistence on a third party allows all Tea Party organizations, and many other party-type groups to join the cause without disrupting their structures.
After we win, then we can for the party around those of us who helped it happen. The ones that did the work ARE the party. If the Republicans decide to go with West, then we take over that party, aggressively.
This is the plan, and I think we can succeed. We must pledge ourselves to it, through oddball revelations, smears, and fake bimbo eruptions. We need to spend our own money campaigning. We have to act locally to make this happen nationally. But we can get it done if we get enough folks on board.
I like the idea, but it takes people actually seeing what is reality all around them for that to be burnt into their retinas. Having people do it themselves from the local level is a great grassroots idea that is imperative for a national idea to formulate.
Unfortunately, our economic outlook may force the issue long before a political solution can be reached. We are making the same mistakes that they made in the '30s and hyperinflation may drive us into the ground before we can right the ship.
Then again, perhaps hyperinflation will drive the message home all that much quicker.
Pretty intense article. I was hoping it would end in some suggestions to avert disaster, but apparently not. It reminds me of the book The Forgotten Man, by Amity Schlaes, where she points out that every stupid attempt by government to "fix" the depression pretty much made sure it grew longer and worse. When it comes to capital markets, the stability of money, and banking, I always picture government intellectuals as a bunch of monkeys surprised to find themselves set loose in an air traffic control tower.
I never read The Forgotten Man, but I remember Beck talking about it a lot. I assume her solutions were to cut back on the New Deal and let the free market take back control, much like I would have hoped Romney would do.
I'll have to check the book out. I should have read it a long time ago.
Yeah, in the article I posted, I got the impression that, even though he posed the questions, he figured we would make the same decisions as those idiots in the '30s. And so far, we have.
I had the pleasure of meeting & working with Allen West in 2008, when I worked on the McCain Campaign in Southeast Florida in 2008. He is an honorable & distinguished man.
Can you imagine? Him and Rand Paul are both making noise about running. This gives me hope. He wouldn't role over for fraud either. Go, Alan West!
I don't know if you are like me, but the threads I linger on longer than the others, are the ones about Sarah and Allen West. They fill me with feelings I can't explain.
I'm a human being, with all the frailties and shortcomings that title implies. I just want this country to come back. To be what it used to be. To be what the Founders envisioned.
If I helped cause this, by my lack of attention or ignorance, I will try to make up for that. I just want back, what we had.
I think Sarah and Allen West, and others like them, can do that. Let's not forget Mia Love. The Washington machinery shut her down, just like they did Allen West and Sarah.
This country is a train headed down the wrong track. Levin, and all the other great Conservative voices tell us that every day. Actually, they don't have to tell us, because it is patently obvious to anyone with, "neurons that are actually connected to each other."
Some of you like to get your inspiration from our favorite talk show hosts. I'm with you on their wisdom and their ability to keep us all apprised of pressing current events. Scoop does that too, as we all know. But sometimes, I get inspiration from other Americans, who we don't necessarily see on the blogosphere.
There are a lot of people in Country Western music, who have a fierce belief in Freedom. We have listened to their songs. Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Johnnie Cash. Plug in your own favorites. The list is long. Country Western may not be your thing, but these people understand hard work and Freedom, because they have lived it.
Don't always expect city folks to save this country. You might be disappointed. The people who live on the land, out in the country, far away from the big cities, still know what Freedom means.
If you can't saddle your own horse, and handle a six-shooter, you may just be what the Progressives are hoping for.
Dang, there's that Western thing again. Wait a minute. Reagan had a ranch. Reagan rode his own horses. Reagan cut his own firewood. Reagan preferred his ranch, to the glitz of Washington.
And you thought I didn't have a point to all this.
Mia Love is a prime example of the election fraud this cycle. With her, they can't say the polls got it right and we just weren't listening, as the polls had her winning right up to the end when the numbers miraculously turned on her (yeah, I know, it's the conservative apathy, the pundits will, and do, say).
Each of us has a talent. It is different for different folks. Some can get into changing the party. Some can get into promoting the New Guardians (5th estate) against the LameStream. And some can get into tracking the election fraud in various ways to eventually restore a secure election process.
Any of these three things can be broken down to subsections of progress. My challenge to all our Scooper dudes and dudettes is to pick one of these (or more than one) and run with it. We need all the help we can get this time around.
I believe in American ingenuity and I believe we can do it.
"restore honor, integrity and character."
"not for self interests or special interests but for American interests."
"not above the American people, but serving the American people."
"I don't think our Founders wanted people to become career politicians."
"individual industrialism that leads to a successful marketplace."
"voting day should be a national holiday."
"and always remember, Abraham Lincoln only served one term in Congress."
Just some things I picked up from the interview.
Colonel West has the demeanor of a former Texas Ranger. He speaks slowly and calmly, and without raising his voice, he says, "if you go for that gun, I'm gonna have to kill you."
I believe a President Allen West, would speak to Putin or Chavez in the same manner.
There is this, also. Colonel West doesn't work just for Florida anymore. He works for all of us.
Now, he's just like Sarah. Free to shoot 'em down when he sees 'em.
Sorry for the Western analogy, but one of my favorite authors, is Lous L'Amour.
Allen West is a very respectable man. He will never attack you if do not attack him first. I wish him the best on all his future endeavors.
(How can you not like this guy?)
Allen West is the man! He knows a Marxist when he sees one and isn't afraid to call them out. He's exactly the type of person that our country needs.
The campaign theme song is Wild, Wild, West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siadw7TPasA
I hope he isn't planning on the Republican ticket. Remember folks, the "leaders" in the Republican party obviously tried to screw him over as much as possible with his redistricting. Do you really believe that they will help him get in the White House? From what I have seen so far, the Republicans are more hostile towards Tea Party candidates (Bachmann, Santorum, West, etc...) than the Democrats. I really hope he does run as a separate party (Tea, Constitution maybe?) seeing how the Republicans are looking like the Whig party.
Sounds good, but I think he would stand a better chance winning the Republican nomination than winning in a three way race. The Democrat candidate would still get the socialist/dependant class vote, and West and the Republican would split the rest of the vote. What is needed is for Conservatives to not be swayed by the media and the Republican establishment when they try to claim that the Conservative can't win.
He stands no chance of winning the republican nomination, due to rules changes enacted at the last convention. The GOPe will quickly crush challenges to their chosen candidate. The game is rigged against constitutional conservatives.
Rather than focusing on the next savior, we need to focus our efforts on forcing election reform. The machines have to go. You are right, the republicans have rigged the primaries, just as democrats do. The media is in their back pocket, because they ignore the real issues in elections, other than to hype up voter fraud, which doesn't even matter when the votes are just flipped electronically.
Congressman West, I would vote for you in a heartbeat.
You represent America for all of us.
I am elderly, female and Southern and I love you.
What would Rosa Parks think of the way our Unclad Emperor celebrated her today? A picture of himself in her seat on the bus at a museum? ME ME ME I I I MY MY MY MINE MINE MINE?
Didn't he do something similar for Neil Armstrong? Insert HIMSELF?
Neil Armstrong on the Moon? We didn't build that. Washington Bureaucrats built those rockets and all that other fancy equipment. Private contractors and taxpayer money had nothing to do with it. It was the government. Get it through your head.