YOU KNOW there is FRAUD involved!
That's why they are stonewalling.
They cherry-picked those days where fraud was at its minimum.
If West surrenders, this country may as well be communist today.
THE FIX WAS IN CHICKEN LITTLE THE SKY IS FALLING ! FOR 40 YEARS APATHY AND SOCIAL ENGINEERING HAS CREATED A NEW WORLD, A BRAVE NEW OWRLD OF SPINELESS GUTLESS WELFARE MOTHERS AND CHEATS. GOVERNMENT WANT ITS PEOPLE TO REMIAN ON THE TEAT AND BEHOLDEN TO THEM. WHY WOULD ANY SELF RESPECT LESS RECIPIENT OF LARGESSE FROM GOVERNMENT VOTE TO GROW UP AND BECOME CITIZEN OF A ONCE GREAT NATION OF INDIVIDUALS. AMERICAS' TIME HAS GONE , I LOVED HER , I LOVED THE IDEA OF HER, I LOVED HER PROMISE, BUT SHE IS DEAD.
Shades of the Al Franken debacle, and so many others including Feinstein's opponent, Mr. Huffington, being defeated by 14,000 suddenly found ballots. Whole ballot boxes were said to have been mislaid. Right!
I hope West continues to pursue this. Where is the RNC? 59 Philly precincts produce not one single Romney vote. Florida fudging ballots and throwing things out. What the hell!
Maybe we should take a lesson from the libs and say what is going on there is racist and prejudice.
Where is Florida attorney general Pam Bondi and the rnc attorneys? This is voter fraud and something needs to be done about this. We need to help Allen West to get a full recount and bring in other people to do it not the libs who are working in that office. How in the world can they have 140 percent voting in some of the precincts? The fish stinks from the head!
Mark Levin Allen West needs help, doesn't look like he is getting any help from the rnc establishment. Why? In my opinion they would rather have a lib win. The rnc and the DC elite GOP establishment are looking like an extention of the democrat party more and more.
Scoop just posted a new thread on this subject.
"Mitt Romney got zero votes in 59 Philadelphia voting divisions."
Its right above this one.
If you look this up on Snopes it says "Probably False". Of course, when you 'read the entire' Snopes comment, the 'probabay false' concerns wether Norman Thomas did or did not say it and when. Not the accuracy of the comment, or the fact that it was the goal of the Socialist party in the first place.
This is what happened to this country.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
"I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform."
Norman Thomas 1948
what the heck. they're purposely trying to make it harder for west. of course murphy's team says "west got what he asked for" obviously not. those weren't the right days. west can't even get a fair vote count when he asks for it, wow just wow. thank goodness he's a fighter who doesn't back down. keep fighting allen, you are in our prayers- we have your back!
I wonder if we can get the votes for Alan West for "SPEACKER" of the House.
You all know he (Speaker of the house) does not have to be an elected official right?
OR is John Bonehead the choice of OBUMMER?
I know to many RHINOS to get this accomplished, but would that not be AMAZING if some of them were willing to make a STAND with the Colonel?
The Rhinos will sell us down the road on debt and TAX talks.
START THE CAMPAIGN, LETS WALK ON THE CAPITAL !!!!!
JAN 1, 2013 ????
DEMAND IT !!!!!
The result is in question and the very same people who counted the ballots before get to cherry pick which ballots (if any) they will "recount"? Is this a joke or what? Oh... It's the Libtard way of counting!
The real solution is that ALL votes be re-validated and recounted by a 3rd party independent group with observers there from both parties to supervise the whole process and ensure count integrity! Is THAT too much to ask????
The media aren't that much interested in this story, but you can be damn sure if the result were in question and the Democrat was trying to get a full recount the national media would be all over it!
We can't trust the vote counters, we can't trust the media to report the truth. Pretty soon we might as well just give up on elections entirely. They cost so much and the outcome is pre determined in the smoke filled back room Liberal meetings anyway.
Allen West wrote:
"This is not about who gets a congressional seat, because it belongs to the people. This is about preserving the integrity of the voting process and the fundamental right to free and honest elections, because it is for that which I, and all veterans, have risked our lives."
That is indeed what this is about, and I cannot understand why nobody from his party is standing up for him. Well, I do understand: they, ahem, dislike him.
So, Mr Rubio - what say you? Think your seat will be safe?
Because if this isn't stopped, then the fraud will go on and on, and more and more people will disengage from the political process, sad as that is.
Perhaps you all could write to your congress critters and demand they at least stand up for Allen West, who is the only defender of the Constitution.
It did not make sense to me to count the ballots cast before the cheating started but then I am stupid (not a lying politician).
We have your back Allen West! You are the only person in these United States that has the courage to stand up and defend your right to an honest election and the right of all citizens to expect their votes to be counted properly.
I am sending your campaign even more money than I donated for you to run for office. I don't even live in your state, I just like to support honorable candidates.
Never give in, never give up.
This token recount that is supposed to satisfy the electorate that all is well still showed different numbers, in Col. West's favor.
Anybody that has had the responsibility to balance books and ledgers at the end of the day knows that if you're off even a penny you have to keep looking for the mistake, or mistakes.
The St Lucie County supervisor of elections, Gertrude Walker, a Democrat, has been noticeably reticent to talk about this situation, even to the local media.
Once again the American public is being taken for fools and our laws are being mocked.
I remember years ago when I worked as a cashier back home, the register was off by a good sum one day. My boss and I went through every receipt and every register tape for HOURS to find the problem. Yours is an excellent point NY!!
Good morning friend Gino! :-)
So just throw a penny in the till and it balances, right? Wrong. The penny difference could be the result of four accounts being wrong on the high side and five accounts being wrong on the low side so you really have nine accounts in error, unacceptable.
How's my friend ABC doing? I've been licking my wounds, feeling totally depressed for our country and haven't been saying much lately.
Me? Silly? I've never had a humorous thought in all my life, you must be mistaking me for someone else, Joe perhaps or Rshill7.
I've noticed your absence my friend... and I've missed you. It's not been a good week at all, I agree, but what would be the hardest thing about this whole thing would be to lose our silliness. We can be depressed for a little while, but as a good and sweet friend of ours said a few days ago, "When you lay in the dirt with tears in your eyes you end up with muddy eyes. When you stand tall,fight back the urge to cry, you see things with a clear eye." GBW
While we fight the evil, please lets still find time to be silly, or the evil wins. ((((())))s myGino!!
Just knowing that a a partial recount of early votes comes up wiht a different total should send people into a fit.
A total recall should be on the table , not because of the closeness of the new total but because the totals change whenever they recount them
How can we have any faith in our elections when actual votes cast far exceed registered voters? Also, I challenge anyone to come up with an example of how something like this has worked in the favor of a conservative candidate. If we can't change the course of our country through the ballot box, more radical means must be explored.
Exactly. Al Franken. He was behind the Republican candidate at closing of the polls, yet Dems found several thousand votes JUST FOR FRANKEN in the back seat of a car and wherever else. It consistently works in favor of the left, which tells us that the massive fraud is being done by the left.
I live in a very liberal area in PA. Although this is obviously anecdotal and impossible for me to prove (hence the problem), I noticed a lot of cars with out-of-state license plates this past week. We do not have early voting. Perhaps these people early voted in their states and then drove here to vote again on Tuesday. Early voting is a recipe for voter fraud.
You marched when there was seriously something to be scared about. Everything you've told me about being a teacher and what you did, along with this, you are one heck of a strong stand-up lady. We need more people like you.
Back then racism and lynchings were real. Of course there's still racism, but you can't disagree with a liberal or your a racist. If you try to cut back on welfare you're a racist, for example. Libs have hijacked the civil rights movement for political gain, and it's disgusting. It angers me tremendously to see how liberals treat any black person who dares leave the liberal plantation. It's as if they own black people all over again. Makes me sick.
They should have refused to leave and called up the media, Fox and local friendly newspaper reporters to let them know what was happening. I marched in the 1960s for voter rights and civil rights and I am highly upset at the voter fraud. When we marched in MS there were threats of all kinds of violence and death threats to the point where the hair stood up on the back of my neck from fear, yet we continued to march in spite of the fear.
I had seen where they claimed voter fraud with two individual Republicans trying to vote twice. The stickler.....they were trying to test the system to see how easy fraud was. But their claim was that they were busted so fraud cannot happen like we claim.
Uh, yeah. Never mind the obvious. Up to 50% more votes cast than there are registered voters in many swing state districts. They just don't see that.
If the media covers voter fraud at all, it will be:
- "It happens on both sides"
- "Voter ID disenfranchises minorities"
- They will dig really long and really hard to find a case where it was done by a Republican (if they can't find one, they'll fabricate one; perhaps a Democrap plant)
Ah, I didn't even think of that. You're right, and it explains why they would throw out Republican watchers even though they knew it was court ordered and they had a right to be there. They were importing something.....votes, and they had to get the watchers out even for just a while.
I think people should be arrested for that. This happened in 2008, too (I believe).
Republican watchers were REMOVED from some voting places......they went to a court, got a judge order and came back......
meanwhile.................................... DNC "vote early and vote often" was applied - and - voila! - FuBar Ack "won".
Have you hoticed incredible silence from the left???
We heard in the past:
: "I won, you lost!! HA HA HA "...."Now is our turn!!!" "It is payback time!!!"
Lol, I don't think that's why. There was massive voter fraud in the last election, too. I think the first time around Obama was asserting his position as king. At this point I think he believes the country belongs to him.
I follow the financial markets, especially the market experts who have a track record of being right, with their forecasts. There is not a lot of optimism in that arena right now.
There is a great potential in the near future, for a worldwide financial crisis, on a scale heretofore unseen. It will start in Europe, then spread to America and China.
Food and energy shortages will be common. Street violence will reach dangerous proportions. There will be riots. City services such as utilities and law enforcement will be crippled, and in some cases, non-existent. Life as we know it, will cease to exist. The recent Hurricane on the east coast will become insignificant in comparison.
If it gets bad enough, martial law will have to be imposed. Bank accounts will be seized by the government. It will become against the law, to hoard gold and silver.
Here's the good thing. Once Obama imposes martial law, all future elections will be cancelled. No more voter fraud. Problem solved.
Lol, I sure hope you are wrong. I do believe harder times are coming and Obama's energy policies are going to strangle us....especially when he starts pushing global warming crap. I sure hope we push along despite his efforts to bring this country down to it's knees. That's the thing. This country did not try to rebound because of Obama, it tried to rebound despite Obama.
Have you noticed how Loud the right is with excuses on why they lost, but continue to miss the real reasons? Does the right think that making excuses, calling the President a fraud and ect is going to help their chances in 2014-2016? Will they learn from their mistakes? Instead of conspiracy attacks they would do more good debating policy because unless they learn to work together they will lose for some time to come. Most of all and many people are missing this, is either you are with the RHINO Party or your not. If your not, turn Fox Off, quit quoting a Rhino just because it fits your agenda ect ect. If something isn't right in Florida with West, its not the dems, its the Rhinos - If you want a chance, you need to realize that the RHINO's are going to and already started doing away with the Tea Party and they will make this very clear within the next year or so.
Did you notice how loud the left was when Bush was president? Did you notice that they called him Hitler, burned effigies of him and called him a murderer? Yet he was still reelected.
If insulting the president was really the issue Obama would never have been elected. The lesson learned is that the left has the market on criticizing and defaming
Republicans and have been very successful at scaring the hell of people and poisoning the minds of the rest.
Most people like to hear the truth and out of all the television news sources FOX delivers the most truth.
Why should it bother you if FOX tells lies as you say? It didn't affect Obama's reelection did it. Why not let FOX drag the Republican party down?
The left fears the truth like Dracula fears a crucifix.
But keep this in mind, the supporters of baby killers, blatant corruption, historical racism, and blatant liars are not the ones to give conservatives advice.
Were you old enough to type during the Bush/Gore election?
Are you a Florida resident?
If you can't answer 'yes' to both those 2 questions, take your 2 posts and go back over to Media Matters.
I don't have a problem with Romney or West losing in a fair election. I would be disappointed but would blame the approach on our side and/or a growing want for big government on your side. I have heard from several lefties claiming that voter fraud didn't happen....including now because you say it had nothing to do with Romney's loss.
Apparently you don't understand that when there's 150% turnout, that means half the votes were fraudulent. Not nationwide, but in that district. A very high turnout is 60%, and there were districts in PA that turned in over double that. You do realize that when there are 80,000 registered voters and Obama gets more votes than that by himself in a district that it is impossible, right? That is, unless there's voter fraud.
Get off the Obama kool-aid and look at the facts.
Yes, but there's no way to tell if the people it happened to are imagining things because they didn't make sure it checked the right box...or if it really happened. I believe them, but I'm just saying there's no way to prove it. While I was voting a lady came in and reported of it happening to someone in a town not far away.....in Kansas. That's really odd because I don't believe they would have a reason to mess with the machines in Kansas. We aren't a swing state.
Oh, and I also only heard of the votes being changed to Obama, not Romney.
Patrick seems to have an identity problem. If you go to his profile and click on it, there is no profile. NONE.
His activity does however, list a whopping two comments and two replies. There have been a couple more since.
I think this guy represents a real threat from the enemy camp. Perhaps we had better give him a wide berth. I'm afraid to even talk to him.
The most common error reported about voting machines was that the machine changed the selection by the voter to the opposing candidate, usually to Obama.
Now, these machines are supposed to be state of the art design, and are tested and checked before being put out for use.
I can think of a lot of errors that a machine might make, if it malfunctions, yet these all seem to be making this same error, over and over again. I didn't hear of the machine selecting any of the other candidates, either. Did you? Seems like whenever it malfunctioned, it always selected Obama.
Curious, don't you think?
Yep, and the only reason people on the left don't see it and claim fraud doesn't exist is because they are the ones committing the fraud.
you wrote: "....you need to realize".
I realize what you realize, then some.
Don't teach a father to make babies.
.................................IT's RINO, not RHINO.....
....................................................................we do need Tea Party to take over or become a third one, but dirty fighting by DNC overpowers all opposition....and RINOs in RNC are holding to the steering wheel.
Romney was ahead even when sampling was illogically +5% to +12% for DemocRats - and -suddenly - he lost?
Even mathematically it is impossible; 2+2 is 11, according to DNC new math.
they controlled voting machines...FRAUD is the ONLY explanation.
Pat, don't try to pat or trick me, don't pledge strange theories.
think on your own.....your professors spread leftists ideas...use your own brain.
It's amazing to me that the left had little momentum, not nearly the votes, hardly the yard signs around the country, not nearly the filled stadiums or rallies, not as many college kids getting out the vote, Jews throwing their hands up and forsaking Obama for Romney and YET somehow we are all to believe the left QUIETLY took the country by storm?????
Amazing-here's what I think-I think there was NO WAY the FAR LEFT was EVER going to let go of HEALTH CARE-it is the carpet underneath the country that they will use to pull out and reset America once and for all to a more socialistic way of life. And that means they would stoop to ANY and ALL levels to see Obama and the FAR LEFT administration reelected. I think even the DEMS were surprised they won but not the far left-they knew exactly what they were doing-watch-next it will be talk radio that will suffer for the last four years, it has already started here and we are now as red of a state as can be!!! and then GUN CONTROL-watch! They have come this far they aren't going to let it go-and you can also thank the 50 some million people that fell for Obama and his empty destructive ideas!
Any person let alone President that sends federal money overseas to help other countries with abortion, who tells his sick grandmother we won't help you just take a pill-who will cry over his own REELECTION but NOT THE DEATH OF FOUR WHITE AMERICANS who died for their country is NOT WORTHY to hold the office of this once great country! Obama is indeed a reflection of the current values this country holds and it is not the country I grew up in! For the first time in my life I am truly ashamed of my country!
I was ashamed in 2008, too. Mostly because of the voter fraud but also because there were so many warning signs that Obama did not have American values and did not have our best interests in mind, yet people ignored the signs. "Hope and Change". They didn't even know what he meant, but it must be good, right? ....because government sucks so he must be going to clean up the place.
I also don't understand the low Republican turnout. Reverse voter fraud? I mean, libs figure out a way to cram hundreds of thousands of votes in, so have they figured out how take some out as well? It looks very fishy to me, because I have never seen conservatives so riled up before in hopes of getting Obama out. It makes no sense, unless a lot of conservatives sat at home because Romney "is no different than Obama" (supposedly).
The rest of your analysis is right on the money. We won't be America in four years from now. Obamacare is not the end game that they can hang their hat on. It's a stepping stone to a single payer system. It will put private insurance companies out of business over a decade or two....all by design. They planned in the bill to have billions of dollars ready to build more hospitals and to hire more doctors in order to be able to manage the increase in patients. I just have one question. A very large percentage of doctors want to quit as I speak because of Obamacare, so how do they think they are going to keep these hospitals staffed?
I think many people voted for BO because it makes them feel good except, assuming that Mitt (the more competent of the two to deal with the multi-layered crisis we find ourselves in) would win handily. That way, they'd get the best of two worlds. I think there's a bit of shock on the left too - at least among some of them.