Ann Coulter says we have to win in 2014 and 2016 and that in order for that to happen, Republicans must concede on raising the tax rates of the top 2 percent so that Obama gets the economy he wants and the blame for it as well. If we stand on principle, Ann argues, the GOP will be blamed for the economy and we hurt our chances in the next 2 election cycles:

Problem is, just as we’ve seen over the last four years, Obama and the media will blame Republicans anyway. It’s a foregone conclusion that Republicans will be blamed for a tanking economy so why don’t we stand on principle and fight so that we don’t lose the base we already have.

If Republicans concede the higher tax rates, we will also be conceding these socialist arguments to Obama and not telling people the truth about the economy. I agree the GOP is terrible at messaging and that desperately needs to be fixed, but if they concede these higher tax rates then I believe it’s over for Republicans. Obama’s next move is checkmate.




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Big Al
Big Al

Go ahead GOP & give the cry baby Obama his tax hike on $200K earners. When they lose more revenue & recession gets worse then maybe America will come out of it's coma?!?

Is EVERYBODY smoking dope now??

Lesson From UK: Tax Hike on Wealthy Lowers Revenue

One side wants to rein in entitlements to deal with the budget deficit. The other side insists that any such moves be accompanied by higher taxes on the wealthy.

That may sound like the ongoing fiscal battle in Washington, but actually describes the situation in Britain.

The difference is that Britain has already raised taxes on the wealthy, with a telling result: The government actually lost revenue.

In the 2009-2010 tax year in Britain, more than 16,000 people reported annual income of more than 1 million pounds (equal to about $1.6 million today). Then in 2010, Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a member of the Labour Party, introduced a new 50 percent top income tax rate for high-income earners. After that, the number of people reporting income of at least 1 million pounds fell to 6,000.

“It is believed that rich Britons moved abroad or took steps to avoid paying the new levy by reducing their taxable incomes,” The Telegraph reported.

Harriet Baldwin, a Conservative member of Parliament, said: “Labour’s ideological tax hike led to a tax cull of millionaires.”

Instead of raising revenue, the tax hike cost the U.K. 7 billion pounds ($11.2 billion) in lost revenue —and that in an economy one-quarter the size of America’s.

Now the government of Conservative Party Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that it will lower the top rate from 50 percent to 45 percent, a move the Labour Party officials have called a “tax cut for millionaires.”

In ongoing budget talks, Conservatives want to freeze out-of-work benefits, which are set to rise with inflation, while liberals in the government “will only allow the benefits freeze if taxes on the rich are increased."

Democrats in the United States might note that since Cameron’s government announced the lower top rate, the number of Britons reporting income of at least 1 million pounds has risen to 10,000.

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

If anyone still doubted that Ann Coulter was just another GOP establishment tool after she endorsed Mitt Romney and tried to argue he was the true conservative candidate that doubt should be gone after these comments.

Same with that wanna be conservative sock puppet Sean Hannity.

mcamire
mcamire

Let the taxes go up on everyone. That would mean that everyone was actually paying income tax. That would be a nice change.

CalCoolidge
CalCoolidge

Ann is already working on her next book, "Deranged." It's autobiographical.

Steve
Steve

Ann Coulter is just so cool! I pretty much agree with anything she says. I admire her courage and moral aptitude and her ability to stand tall in thje face of adversity.

RocklinConservative
RocklinConservative

I've outgrown Coulter. Her wit was good years ago, but times are different now and I don't think she has adjusted to them.

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

Ann Coulter was, is and always will be a tool of the George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Mitt Romney wing of the GOP establishment. Once in awhile they're on the correct side of issues and they make senses, but for the most part they're working against conservatives, Libertarians and anyone else who doesn't want the Republican Party to be just Democrats light.

Alex
Alex

She absolutely hates McCain. She loves Romney though.

Alex
Alex

Actually, there's few people who hate McCain more than Coulter does. Both during and after the election. She said she'd prefer Hillary Clinton for President to McCain. She called him a d-bag last year. I don't think she's ever passed on a chance to diss him.

It's not that I like her, but it's true that she hates McCain's guts.

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

Nonsense. She only "hated" McCain when he was running against the establishments first choices of Romney and Guliani. The moment McCain has the nomination sewn up she was using Karl Rove's pom-poms to cheerlead for McCain like the dutiful tool she is.

Jayne
Jayne

If Ann Coulter is now the "voice of reason" for the GOP, it's already over. Buh-bye...

wrightguy
wrightguy

The title wave of stupid liberal ideas will wash over all of us. The libs will bankrupt the economy as long as they get "theirs". When you reward bad behavior (Obama), you get more bad behavior (re-elected).

Daily Kenn
Daily Kenn

Must we concede to succeed?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

no

Brent Boyd
Brent Boyd

Time to call it a career, Ann. The last year has been rather bazaar... "Romney's the only guy who can win". Chris Christie... "Let's raise taxes so we can win elections"?

Tell us, How did they finally get to you?

Alex
Alex

"Radiation is good for you".

Start of last year.

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

They didn't get to her, she's always been their sock puppet. It just didn't always seem so when they were in power and defending themselves.

Brent Boyd
Brent Boyd

Time to call it a career, Ann. No more please.

T. Price
T. Price

Mann Coulter needs to join the Ranks of Rove and Morris and be TOSSED OUT ON HER ASS. no more fox news appearances

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

Coulter, Hannity, Rove, Beck, Rubio, Ryan, Haley and anyone else who called themselves a conservative but backed or wouldn't stand up and oppose the ultimate RINO Mitt Romney's nomination.

I changed my party registration to independent the day after I cast my vote against Mitt Romney in my state's primary and I'm not returning until I see a clear and unambiguous move back toward real conservative principals and not just claims of conservatism from RINOs.

Alex
Alex

Beck? WHAT? He was on Santorum's team. There's few who like the establishment less than Glenn Beck. Levin got bothered than he called the GOP establishment progressives at first.

Hannity didn't pick a side too explicitly in the primary. He had them all on.

paulinpittsburgh
paulinpittsburgh

Hannity continually declares on his show that he is not a Republican but a conservative yet when it came time to back a conservative in the primary he wouldn't and simply repeated Karl Rove's talking point that any of the GOP candidates (which included commie Huntsman) would be a good choice to the point he became utterly unbearable to listen to. This so called conservative gave tons of air time to Rove and Coulter to spin their RINO establishment BS. Yeah Hannity allowed them all on which is part of the problem, when Limbaugh at least had the integrity to declare Romney "was not a conservative" Hannity was giving him airtime to blow his smoke up the audiences behind unchallenged. Hannity can run his mouth all he wants about being a conservative but his actions spoke louder and it is abundantly clear he's nothing but a party tool doing their bidding.

With "allies" like Hannity, Coulter and Rove honest, sincere conservatives don't need enemies.

TIMERUNNER
TIMERUNNER

So now A.C. saids we Americans are all principled if the GOP agrees to raise taxes. Hum this idiocy sounds like a progressive, democrat, liberated mindset. She failes to mention the debt ceiling has already collapsed or more taxes are already on there way January 1st.2013.

Jeepers creepers A.C. wheres your TLC?

Nitnyline
Nitnyline

I have said it before "I am finished with Ann Coulter." Stop putting her on Fox and stop having her speak on campus, just stop with her already. She is a hack, she is mouthpiece of the establishment or as it was known in my day a party aperachnik. But as with all the garbage she spews there is a tiny kernel of truth in there burried in there to make her sound cogent. Yes we lost the election. Lost the Presidency, she was a Romney cheerleader from the very start. Lost the Senate, Dems gained 2 seats. Lost seats in the House too. She is also correct in the fact that the House Republicans will get the blame no matter what. However one must be made to understand Republican DOES NOT equal Conservative! Ann Coulter please go away, just fade away like Douglas Macarthur put it when he vanished from public sight.

Tim Jaggers
Tim Jaggers

If Republicans yield on the tax issue, they will pay for it dearly at the polls in 2014. Did no one learn their lesson in 1992, 1998, or 2006?

I understand where she is coming from but she overlooks the fact that no matter how badly Obama's policies damage the economy, his pals in the MSM will find a way to blame Republicans. She argues that you can't win on principle so given in. It's hard to criticize that since we use the same argument against Libertarians to convince them to not cast a "principled" vote for Gary Johnson. Also was she not one of the pundits who attacked Bush for not vetoing the massive spending bills on principle even though there was no chance that such a veto would be sustained?

You have to give Ann credit for one thing - during the primaries she strong opposed Romney and said if he was our candidate, we would lose. She was right about that one.

CO2isGood
CO2isGood

You have to give Ann credit for one thing - during the primaries she strong opposed Romney and said if he was our candidate, we would lose. She was right about that one.

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Umm...no, she supported Romney, tooth and nail!

Tim Jaggers
Tim Jaggers

She supported Romney after the primaries, during the primaries she was pimping Christie - "I think Chris Christie is the best candidate to beat Obama. Romney could never beat Obama".

PapaLouie
PapaLouie

Boehner has already tried Ann's suggestion. Right after the election, he conceded to Obama's demand that we raise tax revenues on the rich. What did his capitulation to Obama get him? It just got him additional demands. Now Obama wants not just more tax revenues but increases in tax rates, more stimulus spending, no debt ceiling, and no spending cuts. If Boehner concedes to those demands, do you think there won't be additional demands added? The next demand may be to tear up the constitution and vest all power in Caesar Obama. Do we concede to those demands, too, so Obama can "own" the economy? What would that get us? Is mutual suicide a "moral victory" to Ann Coulter?

kateorjane
kateorjane

It's getting really old hearing the GOP folks harping about how we gotta join the Dems in pandering otherwise we'll never get elected. But if we're going to just do what the Left does, what difference does it make if we're in charge or just folding and giving the Dems what they want?

You have to wonder if Ann is afraid she won't be the darling of the talk shows if the GOP actually grows a backbone.

MirCat
MirCat

Coulter's plan to get a good Captain. "Let the ship sink. That'll learn 'em"

- The Cat

proudmomofseven
proudmomofseven

no offense - I mean Ann is a strong advocate and a very smart woman; but man she has been wrong- really wrong and I don't know why we should be listening at this point. Same with Rove, Morris etc. All these folks have been soooooooooooo wrong. When do we stop rewarding them for being wrong? I'm done.

The changes start when we - the regular folk - start telling people why we believe what we believe and we stand up for those beliefs. We need to educate those around us. What made the tea party so powerful is that it was truly grass roots - "we the people" sort of grass roots. No leaders just us. It will be most interesting to see if in 2014 we can stop this marxist by a tidal wave of true Americans who want our representative republic back.

So no offense Ann - but be quiet and go write a book.

LIBERTYUSA
LIBERTYUSA

...everyone has it wrong , IT'S GEORGE W. BUSH's FAULT ."(period)

unseen1
unseen1

no on taxes is the ONLY principle the Moderates in the GOP has not chuck overboard. They caved on social issues, they caved on military issues, they caved immigration, they caved on the middle east and promoting democracy, they caved caved and then caved some more. The last principle the only one left, the only one that they ran on for the last 2 elections taxes is now what they want to cave on. Is anyone anyone in the world surprised. moderates like Coulture would give away everything for nothing. These people need to just go ahead and admit they would rather be dems.

TruLevinian
TruLevinian

I wish there was a chance that this RINO would get off the stage. She's shown herself to be an absolute phony, and I think I speak for most informed conservatives when I say that enough is enough Coulter! GEEZ!

Macmike Hughes
Macmike Hughes

With Coulter it is about making money. Say whatever she needs to put more money in her purse. But really the Democrats won. So give them what they want. Then the Republicans might have a chance in 2016. What would they do if all of the sudden Republicans agreed with everything they wanted?

MiketheMarine
MiketheMarine

Foxnews should concede to their viewers and fire your dumb a$$.

Larchmonter
Larchmonter

Where in the founding is there a mention of Parties? The government was taken from the people, and Parties have been institutionalized, and the work of the Republic has been formalized into a two-Party racket.

If the Conservative voters and the Tea Party voters (people who actually do the heavy lifting of campaigning and financing and voting) don't wake up, all they will have left of this Republic is these comment boxes. Looking for the right candidates is only a small part of what has to be done.

And whining over losing gets you nothing. Romney-Ryan came close, and they were failed by people who talk a good game but did not get out and vote against Obama and the Tyranny of Liberalism.

The failure is with the people who put their responsibility on the backs of candidates.

We own the victories (so the people claim) and therefore, we own the defeats.

Don't blame others. Don't even blame Media, consultants, big mouth fools, or if, ands or buts, if onlys, et al.

340,000 people who rationalized not voting for the ticket to save the country, our freedom, our prosperity and our future cost us the election.

Florida was 74,000 people. Think about that. Who the hell can win when Cuban-Americans vote for Tyranny?

If Rubio could not deliver Florida, and Ryan-Walker-Priebus couldn't deliver Wisconsin (hell Ryan couldn't deliver his own district), it wasn't the Ticket or campaign.

The Conservative-Tea Party message does not resonate to new generations. It is like RIM or Nokia. Got to get a makeover of message and organization, and take a long war approach to educate, educate, educate our basic values, heroic victories, and widespread prosperity. Urgency and a credible plan of action should be what we are discussing.

John
John

whatever GOP does, it will be blamed on....Poor, naive oafs cannot fight back.

Nukeman60
Nukeman60

Ann Coulter: "I think Chris Christie is the best candidate to beat Obama. Romney could never beat Obama"

Ann Coulter: "I think Romney is the Best candidate to beat Obama. We can never beat Obama without him."

Ann Coulter: "I think we have to 'cave in' to Obama to win future elections. We could never win otherwise."

What Nukeman60 hears when Ann Coulter speaks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04&feature=related

If Ann is speaking, that must mean there is another book out there for sale. End of story.

HopeHeFails
HopeHeFails

If the Founding Fathers wanted compromise, they would have created a compromise Party. John McCain and CryBoehner would have been in it. They didn't.

Instead, we have a Republican Party who took power because of the Tea Party, and the further away from the Tea Party they move the more America will lose.

eva logan
eva logan

I'd rather the Republicans stand on PRINCIPLES than what this "BLONDE" suggested, which has led to the 2nd OBAMA REGIME!

eva logan
eva logan

I'd rather the Republican stands on principle and lose than what this blonde suggested.

aposematic
aposematic

La la land. R's giving in to D's is why they are now impotent and cannot win elections. As to the R's being blamed for all the D's intentional disaterous Policies, when has that ever over the past Century not been the case?

m0r0
m0r0

But what happens when 'the electorate' doesn't learn Ann? What happens once we've capitulated and given away the farm AND lost the conservative base? What then Ann?

DJAnders
DJAnders

Wonder how much the Democrats are giving the Republicans under the table to vote for Boehner again. There has to be some reason if the Republican are being taken in by him.

Christi25
Christi25

The republicans will be blamed for whatever bad happens anyway, in whatever way it happens! The only recognition we can have is God's recognition - and He has the last word, always.

pmb88
pmb88

The media will blame Republicans for anything that happens. If its a Dems fault they'll try to paint the Republican as the source of problem. They'll even blame Repubs for breathing. The Repubs have the fire to silence conservatives within their party but that fire is gone when dealing with Dems. The Repubs should just do is walk away and say we're refusing to deal with someone who's not serious in solving this. That would be in a perfect world. Either two things will happen 1. Republicans cave in and pass O's plan 2. We go over the cliff. Even though there would be more hardship, I would go with option 2.

Conservator1
Conservator1

Does anyone care about Romney's sycophants who attacked all other Republicans running in the GOP primaries such a Ann Coulter and The Post's Jennifer Rubin? BTW, add politicians pundits like Bill Kristol of "The Weekly Standard" to this growing list of cowardly clowns conservatives.

The Post has been pushing it's latest poll conducted with the Pew Research Center "...that 53 percent of Americans would blame Republicans for sending the nation off the cliff and only 27 percent would blame Obama..." Below is link to the latest Post article touting this blame game canard:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehner-obama-must-make-the-next-move-on-fiscal-cliff/2012/12/05/5263a71a-3ee8-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_story.html

I'm a CONSERVATIVE who will not support any Republican politician or pundit who would base policy on fear from the results of a poll as Coulter foolishly argued last night on "Hannity."

commonsenseobserver
commonsenseobserver

Not really, let it burn happens to look like a very attractive option.

In fact, we ought to be adding oil to the Democrats' fire.

The people have asked, now they shall be given.