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Well they may be fed up, but their country and Europe as a whole are not. So long France, Europe and the West. The West has turned it's back on God, its culture and history so enjoy being colonized
Doing some research on the group and found this from Digital Journal: Video: Generation Identitaire occupy roof of mosque in Poitiers:
"A movement of young, French patriots is starting to take action against the ethnic and cultural genocide that is taking place in France against the French people...
"...'Our generation refuse to see her people and her identity disappear through indifference. We’ll never be the Native Indians of Europe. From this place, important symbol of our past and bravery of our ancestors, we call to memory and fight!'..."
'Large Oaks from little acorns Grow'............the new French Underground. Worked last tyranny.............
Wonderful. Everywhere in the world where the left is in control, their policies are failing. They create nothing but misery, but we re-elected the One who will take us in that direction.
Just a "heads up".....I suspect that bloggers in the EU are making their way on our sites.
I've run into several people espousing VERY "social democratic"...Euro Statist...views.
A big clue would be something like...... "as their tone is highly nationalistic in nature with their stance of WAR rather than the rights of man, freedom, free enterprise capitalism."
To the Euroleft "patriotism" is demonized as "nationalism"....a veiled reference to Nazis or National Socialism.
Its another tool in their toolkit to silence their opposition....like calling someone a "Racist".
I think you're on to something there my friend. This thread contains alot more responses "warning" us about this group than I would have expected at Right Scoop. I think most of the regulars here at RS recognize this group as French youth fighting the good fight to save their country from Islamization and Socialism.
These "reasonable' sounding voices warning us that they are "extremists" strike me as disingenous. They offer no evidence for their suspicions. It is an attempt, as you say, to try to demoralize and confuse conservatives. We need to stand up to these more nuanced arguments just as strongly and vehemently as we stand up to the more obvious leftist arguments. Thanks for doing your part.
Some years ago I blogged a similar position regarding multiculturism and was met with insults of racism. When you really think about it, racism has been misbranded. I submit the color of one's skin is not the primary cause of rejection, rather the predominant culture. In many cases the groups majority (or perceived majority) causes one to identify the culture with race.
For example, I spent a few years working in the Carribean, in Jamaica and Bahamas specifically. These are wonderful and peaceful people for the most part. Like any society, they have their thugs, but far and wide they are wonderful people. The fact they were of African descent was of no consequence. Does this mean that ALL viewed whites or other races without prejudice? No, however they were relatively few. Conversely, in the US a disproportionate percentage of people of African descent have become a culture that is becoming both an economic burden as well as a cultural burden. The same applies to the illegals coming in droves from Mexico.
There was a time that people immigrated to America to be Americans; to assimilate into the culture that IS Americanism. They wanted liberty and the ability to pursue their American dream, to worship as they pleased, and to taste the sweet taste of liberty. Indeed, they tended to group, as in Italian or Irish neighborhoods, and the heavy German influence in Wisconsin, for example, however they were American through and through. Today they balkanize and resist American values, such as the Muslim enclaves in Michigan where they met Christians exercising their rights with bottles and stones.
I do not advocate a one race nation. I advocate a predominantly one PRIMARY culture. Americanism. This does not take away anyone's rights, rather it enhances them.
God bless these young people. I wish them success.
Send this to Marco Rubio,Krauthammer, Hannity,Senator Kyl and the rest of the GOP Progressive Bush party and tell them no go on any amnesty whatsoever...........
Mark Levin had a French Caller - Call into his show, who stated he wanted to start a Tea Party in France. Wanted help, How and what was going to happen to his country. I remember listening to this man and I was crying. Mark told him the system would have to collapse, that they are going to lose their country, it would collapse and start over.
This is an amazing video, this is an amazing Statement. Do you see the parallels between them and Us.
I am 50 years old, my children are Conservative/Libertarians. I am an Ultra Conservative, fighting my whole life. This states perfectly what my son has been yelling about. I am so proud of him and my daughter.
Nice to know that the young people of Quebec are not all rioting in the streets for freebies. Good for them, spread this around.
Quebec went back and elected their separatist party again. Trudeau the son of the former Prime Minister Trudeau is now wanting to run and be the leader of the Liberal Party.
He is a very scary man boy. He is as left as Obama. He wants the socialist/liberal policies, he is a Marxist. Makes me wonder why he is not in the NDP party. But his father was a hero there like JFK. so he is going to use his dad's name, his model body, to become the leader. If he does become the PM, he will destroy Canada.
Listen to his speeches on YouTube, and his twitter account the girls swoon and faint. He is evil - and I see Satan when i look and see him.
While I laud all that was said in the video. It does cause some concern as their tone is highly nationalistic in nature with their stance of WAR rather than the rights of man, freedom, free enterprise capitalism.
I would be interested to know if anyone know if Generation Identitaire has any ties to the Eurpoean Defense League which is in 11 countries of Europe which are highly nationalistic and radical in fighting Muslim immigration into Europe. (I think these EDL are sudo Nazis in my opinion.)
I do believe that people of nations should protect, defend, and interenally promote their own cultures, traditions, and people against the progressive world order people. But there is a point when you can take nationalism too far therefore, I am sceptical after seeing their youth video on youtube...(for example see recient history with the German people and the National Socialists.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8TTVSPz2M&feature=relmfu
P.S. Yes it is in French et je parle francais.
Your post came across as a bit of a smear job.
It came across as though you are painting these French young people as Nazis, especially the youtube video references....curiously lacking was context.....something that we know in this country to be a "demonization media campaign".
Your post reminds me of something I would see in Pan-European "Social Democratic" political organizations.
Although you reference "freedom" in your post, the rest of your post betrays something completely alien to "us" in the Liberty Movement of this country.
Many EuroZone countries have modified their "freedom of speech" legal concepts to be subjected to "Hate Speech" laws. Our supreme court has spoken clearly on this issue...."speech" that is acceptable to all doesnt need protection....it is speech that is "unacceptable" to some that needs to be protected.
If you dont like my speech, you have every right not to listen to it or you may voice your opposition BUT you may NOT silence me because of your "being offended".
Many Eurozone countries dont see "freedom" the way that we do at a fundamental level. The battles we fight here are against a greater and greater intrusion of government in the everyday lives and individual rights of the citizenry.
Many Eurozone citizens see the government as the "grantor" of individual rights, that the "rights of society" trump individual rights.
We believe that our individual rights are "natural", meaning that they exist whether a government approves of them or not.
I've been surprised at how many people on this site have been so quick to condemn this group. Granted, I don't know much more about them then anyone else who has watched this video and the other video of their rally at Pontiers, but I've seen nothing in this video to conclude that they are Nazi's.
The EDL faced and still face similar tactics from their opponents. I didn't expect so many here to jump to similar conclusions about this group.
madnessofjack is correct. Demonizing patriotism as "nationalism" is a tool of the left to begin sewing the seeds of self loathing in order to subdue a population. Sort of like the cardinal sin of the left, "racism."
You are posting on a site which is very "nationalistic".
The American view of what you call "nationalism" is called "patriotism".....unlike in many "progressive" circles in the EU, the love of ones country is not viewed negatively.
Even "progressives" in this country lay claim to being patriotic.
As I watched the video I saw their "declaration" of war as a declaration of no longer being silent or docile, but to actively confront the entrenched leftist "progressive" establishment.....they are doing what the '68ers did before them.
The Generation Identitaire is a modern "counter culture" movement.
I noticed that "progressives" in the EU, especially their press, labels anyone who disagrees with their ideology as National Socialists or Racists......they do exactly the same thing here.....its a tried and proven way to silence people.
BTW...the EDL is under political persecution in the "progressive" and "tolerant" UK.
Its leaders are being arrested and held on dubious charges and contrary to popular belief....I have never seen any indication that they are "national socialists".
They are anti-immigration to be sure....but they have yet to show themselves as "nazis"
Amazing. You would think the ADULTS in our own country could see this and understand that we are on the same path.
Any sign that the youth are fed up with the appalling results of socialism is good news. Lets hope after 4 more years of our socialist rule there will be a revolt here also.
Too bad our short-sighted youth haven't come to this realization. We are a decade behind France in the progressive idealism, but right there with them on the brink of the economic collapse. Our youth are spoiled and coddled and won't catch on until it's way too late. I've educated my children about the perils of this false idealism, however a great majority are living in ignorance. I'm sad that my children will have to endure the stupidity of the progressives that have taken over the US. Hopefully, my husband and I will have taught them enough to outwit, outplay, and outsmart the stupid oafs that surround us!
Our family is preparing similarly. I am of the belief that this will only get worse - half the nation has no representation, is despised and is under full attack by the other and, its own government.
When the dust settles we are confident who come out on top. Sad, but it would be foolish at this point to ignore.
Though I am impressed, one must be careful what they represent. The words and the meaning may sound good, but does not necessarily reflect liberty and justice.
One cannot forget at the same time of our fight in the Revolutionary War the French at the same time were overthrowing their King and Queen. That may to the French be a milestone of liberty and justice , but one cannot forget it was also part genocide.
Our fight for what has been ours for over two hundred years is not one that will be part and parcel of anything that was near to what the French participated in, but none the less have so much in common to our culture.
They see it dying just like we see ours dying. I can only hope that it will not lead to bloodshed in France and most certainly not in the United States. This a perilous times and it is trying my soul as well as so many others, but I pray that it will not come to violence.
I do not endorse them. I see the same root cause there that is now growing out of control here. I see them being labeled, smeared and marginalized just as any one here who stands up against a government above the law and against its people.
Do not assume however that there is liberty and justice anymore in America. It is a hollow shell. After this last election it is clear that we have a permanent central government , infiltrated with communists, marxists, socialists, and islamists - all dedicated to the end of the Constitutional Republic. And white Americans do need to understand that the power has been derived at their expense and will sustain itself at their expense. Just a reality.
Our Federal Government is now wholly corrupt and self serving. The peoples HOuse has acquiesced. We have a 24 hr propaganda media and an electorate incapable of seeing or learning anything. Nothing will change - the truth has been replaced by a narrative.
There remains one avenue to reclaim liberty and justice, through State sovereignty. That itself will be an ugly battle that I do not think enough Americans have the stomach for.
So do you see a path that does not lead to violence?
Agreed... we need to know a lot more about them before endorsing them because of a slick pr clip and organization.
I guess this line worries me a little,
"total failure of coexistence,| and forced mixing of the races."
sounds somewhat racist, maybe I misunderstand?
It's only wrong if "by their own" they mean their own race. I think that is racism, but I'm not saying that they do believe this. I was just trying to understand the "total failure of coexistence,| and forced mixing of the races." line. I think sDeen and notebene are on probably on the right track.
I believe that line refers to the forced mixing of Muslim ideology on the culture of France. Sharia has taken a deep foothold there and it's not good. I could be mistaken, but that was my initial interpretation.
It is the forced part to focus on. It is deliberate attack on the white French. The UN/EU and socialists are forcing immigration, concessions and appeasement based solely on race. It is designed to push the French people over the 10% threshold where birthrate will take over the rest of France.
No one citizen should have special rights or treatment over another citizen, under sovereign or EU law, based on the color of their skin or their religion.
Their race and culture is under direct assault and they know it. Just as it is in America. This is the major tool of marxism, globalism and now islamofascism.
If it is as you say, then I agree. I just didn't know if it was a new generation of neo-nazis. Forced nationalism via one race has been known to happen in Europe before.
could be that too - I wish I could read and understand French and learn more.
One thing however that I an certain of is that new generation of nazism in Europe is an old one - islam. I also am certain of how the islamization of Europe will end.
So, until I know that Génération Identitaire, is a worse fate, an evil worse than islam, I will take the words of one of our greatest warriors.....
"In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man."
I would be very careful with this one. Remember the Wiemar Republic gave rise to the Nationalist Socialists and the Bolsheviks as competing Left ideologies. The Bols. took their orders from Moscow was their main difference. As well, the Northern league in Italy always gains popularity whenever the economy takes a tank....the Golden Dawn in Greece is a perfect example of this type of ideals. The French have always had a wonderful mix of Nationalism and Socialism.....but lets not mix the two. Thay had had the LePen family for years for whom I have a soft part in my heart for. Full disclosure on myself: I am a Dutch-Eritrean Canadian born in Montreal PQ who is a proud member of the Conservative Party. Welcome to the Canadian Dream!
You bring a welcome perspective. This movement clearly understands the ugly socialist, communist and labor factions behind the May 68 movement, as well as the race-based manipulations of their culture, government and legal system by the SOS Racisme NGOs. So of course there is more than meets the eye. But their basic protest is based on a government that is stripping them of their rights, disguised as benevolence and multiculturalism. That is indeed the makings of a revolution.
I would not argue with what you say but will suggest that historical lessons of socio-political history should also be taken with great caution here. Or to put it another way, all bets are off when it comes to islam and globalism on the scale we now face.
The march is already on. It is too late to reverse this because Western Governments and media are wholly corrupt - in all ways, far worse than the propaganda of the National Socialists.
The European's eternal fatal fascination with socialism and fascism has already given rise to the new seed of destruction: islamic supremacy. But unlike the Parties and armies of National Socialism that visibly spread through Europe, this seed of islamic destruction has been planted deep within the womb of sovereign nations. Combined with crushing debt and the slow erosion of rights, sinister globalism hides behind the smiley faces of multiculturalism and intellectual secularism.
Here in America, the leftists' cleverly disguised tools of diversity, racial equality, affirmative action, have done their jobs well - giving special rights to those with perceived grievances, which also gives them power of other citizens. The political power derived in turn form that, has created a permanent Central Government. The Republican Party is window dressing.
America is now permanently divided between the takers and the makers. The government uses theise "minority" groups and will use it to take the property and rights of the others to sustain that power. Polls in America show blacks, mulsims, Indian (hindu and muslim), "hispanics" and now Asians, all willing admitting they vote democratic because the do not trust white Christians. We have passed the point of no return.
There is no pretty way out of this. This group in France may be small but they have been pushed into a corner with no way out. So has half of America. We will probably make one last effort to give the rule of law and the Constitution a chance through our state sovereignty. But if it fails, we will not be pushed into a corner by marxists, globalists and islamists. And, unlike this French group, there are tens of millions of us and we are armed.
Buckle your seat belt, Chose your sides. This is going to get ugly.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
What an excellent reply and a good proper retort. Not really used to that I and have in the past kept my posts simple as to make them assessable.
The Islamo-Fascist ideal, as ancient as Islam itself, is a proper bi-product, in my opinion, of a failed and violent religion. It has attempted to fill in the holes of history with myth but more so with forced conversion and the blood of anyone who has resisted. Islam and specifically, in my opinion from my readings, is a war journal that tells the tale of a desert middle class merchant who's life becomes endangered. We follow him and his thinking as he becomes more and more paranoid, lashing out, creating dictum on the fly and finally, a conqueror.....but not all in his life time.
This is important to understand in the context of the relationships with Christian Europe & Judeo-Christian relations. Don't get me started between the relations with Jews in ancient Jerusalem, the Byzantium Empire and modern day Europe...Oy Vey, that's a book.
America, and your proper concern with it, represents the new Rome in every aspect. They have Europe, whether we like it our not. There will be blood in the streets or minarets over every capital in Europe. My beloved Nederland is a victim of it, Belguim is drowning in it, Germany was the first to raise the alarm, France has poo-poo'ed it for decades and now it's biting them in the as, Spain has always had the fear of a re-acquisition of Al-Andalus, Italy and Greece have every New North African issue they have ever feared would happen, The Norwegians are seeing more and more, The Swedes have had it for a while but dealing with it better and my sweet sweet Britain can't even teach the holocaust anymore in some schools, to their eternal shame for bowing to these troglodytes......In Canada, we are seeing and feeling the issues but you guys, "the Great Satan" are the target of choice. Keep fighting but remember: what they WANT you to do is subvert your right, be the bad guy the left KNOWS you are.....stay dignified, don't go for the cheap route, believe in G-d as your salvation as the old and new testament tells us....
Sorry for the disjointedness but I was very moved by your post
France lately is beginning to pique my interest... I read with interest that article in Middle East Forum "France Waking Up to its Anti-Semitism". http://www.meforum.org/3379/france-anti-semitism?fb_action_ids=10152297217725525&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
I wasn't aware that Hollande is not necessarily cut from the typical far-left French Socialist mold. But as the article asks, is France past it's expiry date? For that matter, is Europe?
I wonder what Obama's administration thinks about these youth. It seems to me that they are all gung ho for youth power, what about these youth!
according to our very "liberal" leftisis, they must be:
"homophobic, racists, haters, etc."
American youth - learn!
WOW. I actually got goose bumps from reading that. Imagine what would happen if that mentality were a real factor in the U.S.? I can relate to so many of their points. I could be wrong... but they sure do sound like conservatives.
There is no such thing as 'multiculturalism' under Islam. There is but one culture, the Islamic culture and that's just a fact. You convert or you die, it's as simple as that.
The first girl to speak is smoking hot. So whatever she says I'm for it. j/k but she is hot. Hopefully they have a decent amount of people and can pressure the French gov't. Good luck with that 75% tax rate though. The french gov't's inability to get people to assimilate is treasonous. Look at them now.
Fav part was when he said "Condemned to pay into a social system so generous with strangers it becomes| unsustainable for our own people."
Was that not true of the U.S. as well? Those who are illegal or refuse to work suck dry the benefits so many of us contrribute towards. Time for a change...
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