No problem, Judge! Hostess should astand on it's original offer and no more. The unions must be broken and the company has the upper hand here. Union doesn't accept the offer as originally made? No problem, hostess closes shop and sells everything.
Effing unions. I guess we'll see if the baker's union has any compassion for the 17,000 people who are about to lose their jobs because of apparently unreasonable demands of 5,000 bakers. Don't hold your breath.
Unemployment, SNAP cards, and all the other freebies is much easier than working. Maybe the union members will finally get enough free time to visit Vegas or go on a cruise. With Obama in office, all the sheep will get their daily rations. I swipe my EBT. I watch my BET. Don't forget your ObamaPhones.
Hostess should move to a right to work state and hire non union bakers rather than deal with the union.
Maybe the union will back down now that they know that 18,500 members will lose their jobs just before Christmas. I don't think that will have a positive effect on union membership.
What does a BK judge know about Union Negotiations? I don't like the smell of this. What if the judge thinks he worked out a great bargain but Hostess turns it down and BK proceedings resume. Does Hostess now face a hostile judge throughout liquidation?
Guess those workers thought eating and paying bills was more important than their so called principles of higher wages when millions of other people are STILL OUT OF WORK!! What a bunch of friggin' MORONS!
I am torn on this one. I think the company has the right to shut its doors and file for bankruptcy if it chooses, but I also think there are a lot of people losing their jobs who weren't involved in the Baker's Union. They are caught in the middle of a mess. I am just opposed to unions, period. This is what happens in the end - entitlement mentality and thuggery. Instead of being grateful for having good jobs with benefits in this horrible economy, they keep upping the ante. I don't really see any benefit to Hostess to work with the Baker's Union at this point. If they are successful in somehow saving this, they will only be held hostage by the Unions again going forward. I think it's time to go belly up and let our favorite treats be made by a non-union company. I just feel bad for those employees who had no choice in this mess.
Remember the 50's & 60's commercials of Wonder Bread...." It builds strong bodies 12 ways." Yea! until the bakers union got a hold of it and made it weak.
Well I guess that leaves me off the hook for now. I was wondering how I could manufacture enough home made ones to feed all my Scoop family. Whew!
Well, you don't have to worry about any for me. I've never had one and don't plan on starting now.......
I know, and Christmas is coming! Aren't all of us part of the Scoop family? That means I'll be putting my order in for three dozen Twinkies with you... don't skimp on the filling. :)
LOL Chocolate.... I haven't eaten any since before the election. Maybe that's why I've been such a basketcase?!
This one has been all over the internet (I think). The second link is the customer questions......there are some pretty funny things in there.
Oh, I forgot about the Suzy Q's. I havent had those since high school!
My son reminded me about the snow ball cupcakes.
Out of curiosity, I checked on ebay to see what was going on. OMG! So many delicious looking treats that I didn't even know existed.
Chocolate creme twinkies
Strawberry Cupcakes (would love to try one of those)
Suzy Q (which double as a base for an ice cream treat)
Those awesome paper/wax wrapped pies
Zingers (strawberry, not frosted)
...and my all time favorite- Coffee crumb cakes
I should have picked some up on the morning I heard about this, but it didn't seem wise to add debt for such a fleeting temptation. I haven't had most of the above in months, if not years.
Hostess is going Bankrupt? NOOOOOO,say it ain't so?
I "Wonder" if the "HOHO" in the White House is concerned her little leeches are getting too "Twinkie Fat" If her kids aren't allowed to eat them,outlaw them.
Oh man,this sucks.What am I going to eat for dinner now?
Nothing better than a couple slices of Wonder Bread with a few Twinkies and HoHo's crammed in the middle.
See my post below myGreenBeret. I aim to give special deals on my home made ones to my boys. :-) I've got the filling recipe, and I know how to use it.
ROFL!! Oh my gosh....my little brother used to make the most awful combinations. His pride was a sandwich w peanut butter and jelly, cottage cheese, bologna and mayo, potato chips topped w oreo cookies dunked in milk. A real sicko.
Yikes... never had one of those Twinkle-Ho Wonder sandwiches!
Personally, I LOVE Wonder Bread. Grew up on it, and I still love it. Best bread in the world for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Yummy for the tummy.
Stuff the unions - let them eat cake, or Twinkies if they can find any.
Arbitration will just put Hostess back in those union chains. And how insane is it that there are so many damned unions businesses have to deal with just to get a product out there? Way past time to abolish them - they just bring ruination wherever they operate. Bottom line - no country or industry can afford them, regardless of who they claim to 'represent'.
Argh. I bought 15 boxes of Twinkies in hopes of retiring. I found one story that said they were selling for $200,000 a box. My (soon to be fat) kids will be eating them for months.
looks like they might squeeze out of this but this problem isnt going away too fast and those union members will be wanting blood soon after the resolve. Unions are always bad. Individuals are what make america great not herds of cattle.
Oh their blowing smoke! You know how many people would love to buy this company? Without the unions?
I hope all of those that work for a living learn the lesson here. Unions are never good for you or your bargaining. If you want to succeed in life you need to do your own work and barganing than you will have earned your compensation.
I heard the other day that it was the Baker's union bosses demanding a public ballot on the contract (vs. a secret ballot) that brought all of this on. All of the other unions agreed to the contracts with concessions in order to keep Hostess alive. By demanding a public vote on the contract, the rank and file were intimidated into voting against the concessions that would have saved their own jobs as well as the jobs of all the other union members who had already agreed to concessions.
This is what card check is all about, losing the right to a secret ballot.
My husband said he just heard on Fox News the bakers' union refuses to budge on their demands, so can the judge force them???????
Ask the air controllers that Reagan fired in the 80's. They tried that staredown and lost everything.
Oh, I remember that. Boy, was the left screaming in this country over Reagan's actions. It was delicious.
I remember the air controllers and I pray Hostess has the same chutzpah Reagan did. It's about time someone stood up to the union bullies.
Not the same. PATCO (the air traffic controller's union) were not allowed legally to strike.
When they did - in violation of federal law - Reagan said, "Your Fired".
Having said that, if the union refuses to move to arbitration, so be it. Shut down the company, and send them all packing.
Here we go around the mulberry bush. Hostess is just setting themselves up in a scenario that mimics what America did to ourself on election day. don't depend on any mediator that offers his services in this day and age of 0. My initial opinion, 'Hostess beware'.
......" the striking union, whose 5,000 members pull in as much as $22 an hour plus medical benefits, get nine weeks of paid leave and a company pension. It ignored the warning and Nov. 15 deadline and now will take 100% losses on salaries and benefits instead of the 8% requested by management."
Then there are the union bosses...
FRANK HURT PRESIDENT $262,654.00
DAVID DURKEE SECRETARY-TREASURER $244,396.00
JOSEPH THIBODEAU EXEC VICE PRESIDENT $218,989.00
STEVE BERTELLI VICE PRESIDENT $198,062.00
MICHAEL KONESKO VICE PRESIDENT $184,297.00
ARTHUR MONTMINY VICE PRESIDENT $175,505.00
ANTHONY JOHNSON VICE PRESIDENT $167,433.00
ROBERT OAKLEY VICE PRESIDENT $167,265.00
RANDY ROARK VICE PRESIDENT $166,849.00
SEAN KELLY VICE PRESIDENT $161,789.00
People making food products make up to $22 an hour? Not saying those jobs aren't meaningful and important, but really? I'd gladly take one of those positions today and work my heart out for that kind of salary, plus benefits. I'd far rather work for myself, but since that isn't taking off so much right now, give me a Twinkie-making job!
Oh look - that Union president is rich!
He should pay more taxes, right? Spread the wealth, right?
I bet he won't, though.