The Right Scoop- http://twitter.com/PJRodman Paula J Rodman
Are you freaking kidding me? This whole primary thing drives me nuts….by May probably none of my choices will be on the ballot. Damnit. I don’t want to hold my nose whilst voting yet again….alas
- Anonymous
I agree….amazing. Maybe Virginians who are for Bachmann, Santorum or Huntsman should write them in. Worked for Murkowski – not an inspiring example, I know, but it worked.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
That’s just BS that Santorum is being excluded. ALL of these candidates are SERIOUS alternatives to the BS we’ve BEEN having. How can we exclude them!?! Oh Virginia…
- http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop
Excluded? I don’t think so. He didn’t make the deadline. It would be his campaign’s fault, not the State of Virginia
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
Oh, my bad! I thought he just didn’t get enough votes. I never liked the idea of excluding any serious candidate from a primary because they couldn’t get enough votes. Primaries are National business, and I just don’t like states making their own rules regarding National business.
But if he just didn’t make the deadline, that’s definitely his bad! Sorry about that!
- Anonymous
Thank you Scoop! None of three mentioned put in much work in Virginia.
- Anonymous
It’s over by May.
- Anonymous
Agreed Annie. Merry Christmas, milady!
- Anonymous
I think it would be really interesting to find out how much work these candidates are putting in and in which states. There may be more states ballot requirements they don’t meet or fail to meet by the deadline.
- Anonymous
AH! A rational thinking person! My friend, you’ve asked a question that hasn’t been asked, or answered without spin. It would appear that those at the bottom of the polls are concentrating their money and their efforts in states that are launching points like N.H. and Iowa. Virginia, although she is my beloved home, isn’t very important at this time in the election process. Many other states are in the same spot. Virginians are seeking serious and well planned campaigns from those who seek the presidency. If a candidate doesn’t have the oranization in place to discover, and plan for Virginia’s campaign and filing laws, how serious a candidate can they be? We already have a president and administration unable to perform the basic tenets of governence. Why repeat that mistake? Merry Christmas to you and yours! VG
- Anonymous
They were not excluded. The campaigns just did not make the deadlines. It’s just a failure of the campaign. By the way from our past conversations and – as a member of the military – I was wondering if you had seen this:
The title is You Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy
It gives a review of a lot of his confrontations about foreign policy. - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
Honestly, I just don’t trust Ron Paul at all. There is literally NOTHING in this world that will get me to vote for him. I just don’t have faith in him, and to vote for a Commander-in-Chief who I have NO faith in is a bad idea.
Thanks for the info on the deadlines though!!!
- Anonymous
Sincerely, Please spend a little time watching this – it’s the best argument I’ve seen. I’ll leave you alone if you still feel the same after. We need you.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
In the interest of fairness and research, I’ll give it a watching. But I can’t right now…I’m researching for my Comp. Sci. Thesis. Thanks for the linky either way buddy!
- Anonymous
Thanks. BTW – it wasn’t created by the campaign – it was produced by a grass roots supporter.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
Supporter or Paulbot? We both know there’s a difference!
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Amen. There is a huge difference between someone who supports him because they have plenty of agreements, and a person who “preaches the gospel of the Paul.”
Oh lord, I used “amen” and “gospel of the Paul” in a single phrase…not to mention, I also said “lord.” I made this religious already! Lol
- Anonymous
Everything is religious. We fight certain things not seen all the time – we just don’t realize it sometimes.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I know, just having a caffeine moment lol
- Anonymous
A thoughtful supporter like myself.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
Okay then! Sounds like a plan!
- Anonymous
Just because you are you. Did RP really support the likes of Cynthia Mckinney??? It is a serious question.
- Anonymous
Yes and No – it was actually a pretty shrewd move on his part – he took the leaders from each each of their respective parties and endorsed them as an anti-establishment vote. If he had endorsed McCain and he would have won – then the conservatives would have been blamed for the current state of the economy. Not only that – endorsing McCain would have gone against everything that he stood for.
I voted for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution party – who he also endorsed. - Anonymous
Just curious how you can trust ANY of the other candidates and not Ron Paul. Every presidential candidate, including Obama, has made campaign promises to get elected and failed to produce. Ron Paul, win or lose, sticks to his words. He is the only person who hasn’t flipped or waivered on his convictions. He has held true to his word for the past 30 years and his votes show that. No offense, but one would question on what you base your “trust” and “faith”.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
Why would you question ME at all? I’m not running for President!
- AwareBeMe
Well, i take note of how that may have sounded that way and my apologies. I was questioning your comment that you don’t trust Ron Paul not you personnally. You have every right to feel the way you do. I guess, the bottom line is … i was really wondering why you do trust him.
- Anonymous
Really? It seems he’s having a very hard time deciding whether he authored those newsletters or not – or whether he even read them. I think if I had a newsletter coming out in my name I’d sure as heck know what was in it.
- AwareBeMe
Well, again, you get to choose. That being the basis of your trust and faith? Go for it. I think you should watch that video. The content of that video far outweighs not reading some newsletters. I can tell you from having been in business, there are many a words that go out under the top dogs name who hasn’t read it. That is the only thing going against him, happened 20 years ago, and he has disavowed it repeatedly. But then again, that is much bigger than all the lies of the others. Funny how the media spin works in this society. Good luck, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.
- puma_for_life
I posted that link on another thread here and suggested Scoop post it for discussion. I thought it was good.
- puma_for_life
And, ps to all the Paul-haters, at least he is competent enough to get his signatures submitted on time so he can be on the ballot. If these other candidates cannot even get that together then maybe it is time for them to move on in life.
- Anonymous
These people are only standing up for what they believe in and deserve respect. You are not going to convince anyone about anything if you are so vitriolic. If someone is mistreating you – or your candidate – slapping back doesn’t help anything. I’ve never seen Paul get nasty.
- puma_for_life
Huh? Are you talking to me? What did I say?
- Anonymous
Sorry – there’s a lot of angry Paul supporters that come here and make it hard to get past the flame throwing. I saw “Paul Haters” and probably overreacted. Glad I’m not running for President.
- Anonymous
Puma was giving you a pat on the back, Warrior, not a kick in the teeth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether we agree with it or not. I like your fire though.
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Please explain what we did to cause the Barbary wars?
- Anonymous
We didn’t cause them – we ended them – after we were attacked – and congress decided to go to war AND made a declaration of war. Paul is not against going to war. He’s against going to war without Congress declaring the war. Since WWII – the President has a habit of going to war first and then asking whether or not to move forward after the thing has already been started.
Here is Doug Wead giving an excellent dissertation on this topic. (Fox news link)
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1338652977001/ron-pauls-foreign-policy-explained/?playlist_id=87185 - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HU45BLBCROTOIVK4Q56XO2N5VU MSGT
He just needs to stop saying we are the cause of all these things. If he would understand the threat of islam and Iran I could back him.
- Anonymous
Santorum has been a candidate for how long? The primary thing a candidate is suppose to do is explore what each state’s requirements and fees to secure his/her name on the state’s ballot. He jumped into the race very early. He had plenty of time. My guess, he couldn’t garner enough signatures to be on the ballot.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
That’s what I was thinking, but at the same time, it just feels really dirty.
- Anonymous
Did you try taking a shower? Please read my reply to Cindy upthread. They didn’t mount any real effort here.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
We don’t need no stinking showers! LOL!
- Anonymous
I would have liked them to have actually tried mounting a campaign here. I’m at a loss to tell you why they didn’t. Anyway, Merry Christmas to you and yours my young friend! VG
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
I don’t know why anyone would run a campaign for President and throw away a whole State! It doesn’t make sense! Anywho, Merry Christmas to you as well good sir! I hope you and your family enjoy yourselves, and above all…STAY SAFE!
- Anonymous
Thanks for the Christmas greetings, Warrior. You stay safe as well!
- http://twitter.com/conservative__ Anonymous.
Santorum isn’t a conservative. Remember, he endorsed ARLEN SPECTER over Pat Toomey.
Also, since when are we going to nominate ANOTHER senator?
- Anonymous
This is so darn upsetting! Why would Virginia have such rules? And why would some states dictate to the rest of us who we should vote for ? :{
- Anonymous
Milady, Virginia isn’t dictating to anyone as to who they can vote for. It is a simple matter of garnering 400 signatures per county to get ones name on the ballot. None of the three had much of an organization in place here. The general feeling is that after the Obama fiasco, we won’t get fooled again! Kudos to the WHO for the last 5 words! Simply put Cindy, they didn’t really try here in Virginia.
- Anonymous
I understand Virginiagentleman!! I am just so sad the two strongest conservatives are not on the ballot! But that okay, it’s only one state! I hope that Bachmann and Santorum bring up some speed in their game.
By the way, Merry Christmas to you and yours! :}
- Anonymous
And to you milday, and yours, I wish you a most blessed Christmas! Your avatar calls for a most wonderful and blessed Hanukkah! VG
- Anonymous
At least Virginia *has* requirements. It seems Wisconsin is fine with signatures from Adolph Hitler and Mickey Mouse, as long as they have seemingly valid addresses.
- Anonymous
This is becoming a circus run by RINO’s.
- Anonymous
No – it just shows you the (lack of) strength of their campaigns.
- Anonymous
Actually it is just part of the sausage preparation…
It is also one reason so many do not even pay attention until it is down to the two candidates. Not every one likes to watch sausage being made, but everyone used to like the product… until recently.
GB
- Anonymous
Agree with aPaulogist. Virginia has 7 to 8 million residing there and these candidates couldn’t garner 10,000? These states are bearing the costs to have elections. The names on the ballots should be a reflection of who The People want on their ballots. 10,000 is not even 1% of the population.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
That is true… VA has plenty of Social Conservatives, and the Socially Conservative Republicans running cannot even get the signatures.
- puma_for_life
Almost everyone will sign a petition to put a person or topic on a ballot even if they don’t agree with the person/subject because most Americans believe it is only fair and democratic to be on a ballot if you want to be so the conclusion is that these candidates did not even try to get on the ballot. It is not that hard to find someone in each county to collect signatures for you. The does not speak very highly of the these candidates’ abilities.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Yeah well, in there zeal to abolish the status quot, it sure looks like we will have 4 more years of it, whether a leading Republican wins or Obama wins.
- Anonymous
So – if you can’t vote for them – who do the Tea Party conservatives vote for? Seriously.
Romney?
Gingrich?
Perry?
or Paul? - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez
They all benefit but I think Perry the most..
- Anonymous
Well, if the absence of Bachmann, Hunsman and Santorum brings luck to Perry, more power to him!!
- Anonymous
Anyone can do a write in. This means that the people can’t make the state pay to put their names on their ballot.
- Anonymous
Ha! Well said!!
Enters Sarah Palin…..! - http://thebandofpatriots.com Bryan Thomas
Yeah I’d go for Perry if I had to choose between those. Tough choice though with the two strong conservatives out.
- puma_for_life
Some will vote for Paul, I think.
- AwareBeMe
I will vote for Paul. He is the most trusted to his word for me. Consistent for the past 30 years. Would have avoided all of these horrendous wars. Wish I saw that then. I guess back then, i was listening to the media. Ron Paul can’t be bought. He is his own man. I like that in him. Everyone else, including Obama is bought and paid for. I don’t like that. Merry Christmas everybody.
- Anonymous
It sounds like a lack of having organization or paid staff to hit the streets. After reading that you need 400 signatures in each of the 11 districts it does sound fair. Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann probably put most of their money and effort in Iowa.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez
Bad News for them; Good News for the others, especially Rick Perry
- Anonymous
If Paul wasn’t in it – I would have supported Bachman.
- Anonymous
Huh???!!
- Anonymous
huh what? Bachman is my second choice.
- Anonymous
Bachmann is the antithesis of Paul… Just sayin’
- Anonymous
No – you are just flat out wrong. She lines up with him on most issues except for her unChristian approach to war. She is a Paul wannabe and leaned on him to get her bonafides as a tea party leader in a conference a couple years ago. The only reason she’s pro-war is because it is the niche that differentiates her from him and she thinks she can get the neo-con vote – which she won’t. Even the neo-cons know that wwiii starts when we bomb Iran.
Here’s O’Reilly interviewing Romney a couple nights ago confirming this:
http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/12/mitt-romneys-interview-with-bill.htmlHere is Ron Paul schooling not only Bachman – but everyone on the Christian Just War principles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsGIGLbCI4Paul is our Jonah. Hopefully – the country listens.
- Anonymous
I sure hope it is good news for Perry. We have a son in Newport who would have voted for Rick Santorum but he has said there are a lot of Paul bumper stickers around the shipyard.
- Is_Sense_Common
Rinopolis, here we come…
- Anonymous
It looks like we’re down to 3 serious candidates….plus Ron Paul….
- Anonymous
It looks like we’re down to 3 serious candidates….plus Ron Paul….
- K-Bob
It would be easy as cake to come up with 10,000 signatures if we used the same techniques the Dems use. Of course, that requires corrupt election officials, but hey, we could always just lie.
Dead signers, lies, and paid petition forgers. It’s the Chicago way!
- Anonymous
Imagine some of the names they could have ‘borrowed’ from Virginia’s graveyards! Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Lee and literally thousands more. You are right though. Stealing from graveyards is a lefty thing! Merry Christmas, my friend. VG
- K-Bob
Hey, Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones, VG!
- Anonymous
Exxxcellent, “get the kids off the street”, as the old saying goes they had No real chance of winning anyway and will be officially eliminated later on!
- Anonymous
Well, that is certainly bad news for Bachmann and Santorum. Hopefully, they will make it in the other states.
- Anonymous
Not to surprising really. They had very little traction here.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
In which case, it means nothing that they are not getting on the ballot.
- Anonymous
Kris, they hardly campaigned in Virginia! With a bare bones staff, they weren’t a blip on the radar. Merry Christmas to you and your family. VG
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Merry x-mas to you too
- Anonymous
Not good, but keep your eyes on the ball! Don’t be discouraged or distracted.
- B-Funk
Excellent point! Thank you for the reminder. I was gonna get a bit down-hearted.
- http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer
Perry will be on the ballot and Mr. Perry is slowly rising in the polls in Iowa.
Perry/Rubio 2012 because we need a President who will stand up to those Environmental Fascists not sit on a couch with them.
- Anonymous
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Wonderful Christmas card, Cindy!
- Anonymous
WOW! How’d you do that? How do you get the special characters, like the music notes, to show?
- Anonymous
I’m not sure, but you probably have to download a character set from IE.
- grizzlybear71
This does not matter. All three will likely be gone after Iowa, and certainly after NH. We are headed for an ugly, split convention next summer, and I have long predicted that the two remaining players will be Perry and Paul. Buckle up.
- Anonymous
I hope you’re right. I don’t want Newt or Romney. I can handle a race against Paul, who will lose in a two man race.
- Anonymous
No news there.
Why the hell is Bachmann in this race anyhow?!
In her flaky,deranged mine she’s trying in her last gasp
to sell herself as Margaret Thatcher.What a maroon!Huntsman?
C’mon,the guy should have stay in Obama’s administration.Santorum is basically OK conservative,but his level is in 2nd league.
Willard Romney, The Flip Floping Liberal,the Corrupt Crony Capitalist
from The Wall Street Den Of Thieves probably belongs in The Big House
not in the White House.There is ONLY one politician with servant’s heart,with honest heart
as pure as Alaska’s North Pole snow.The only politician who confronted crooks of her own party and sent
some of them in prisons.Her name is ARCTIC GLADIATRIX aka GOV. SARAH PALIN!!!!
- Anonymous
But she’s not in the race. I think if she got in she would totally flip the polls on thier heads just like Perry did in the beginning, but she doesn’t appear like she’s interested.
- Anonymous
Bottom line is we will be getting another establishment nominee.
- http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov
Huntsman has been a phantom candidate for some time now.
Bachmann and Santorum are guilty of poor planning and do not deserve our vote. However, they still have a window (January 2nd 2012-October 27th 2012) to file as write-in candidates.
http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/documents/12PVP_WI_DECLRTN.pdf
Wow. It appears that Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, and Jon Huntsman will not be on the ballot for Virginia’s primary. I wonder if they struggled to get the 10k signatures needed. The deadline for submission was today and they didn’t turn anything in. Doesn’t sound like good news:
POLITICO – Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum all failed to meet the requirements for the Virginia ballot, according to the state’s board of elections.
Of the 2012 GOP hopefuls, just Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Rick Perry submitted the required number of signatures today.
The state’s primary, which is slated for Super Tuesday on March 6, has some of the most stringent ballot access requirements in the country: 10,000 signatures from registered Virginia voters, including 400 from each of the state’s 11 congressional districts. And the elections board recommends getting at least 1.5 times the number of required signatures — 15,000 for presidential candidates — in case any of them are found to be invalid.
Mitt Romney, who filed Tuesday, was the only candidate to get 1.5 times the required number of signatures: he submitted a total of 16,026 signatures, according to Chris Piper of the Virginia State Board of Elections.
Paul filed today with 14,361 signatures, Perry had 11,911 and Gingrich had 11,050.
The Gingrich campaign had announced yesterday, after “scrambling” to organize in the state, that it had reached the required number of signatures.
The state parties will certify the signatures from each of the candidates and decide by Dec. 27 whether or not the four GOP candidates are eligible to appear on the ballot, Piper said.
(h/t: The Other McCain)
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Actually it is just part of the sausage preparation…
It is also one reason so many do not even pay attention until it is down to the two candidates. Not every one likes to watch sausage being made, but everyone used to like the product… until recently.
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