Jarret, claims the admistration of fraud is going to take it, their healthcare scam tax(formerly a mandate) anyway they can get it.....I wonder if they will take it up their backs side where it definately belongs...?
Great idea but they need to take it a step further.
Encourage small businesses that will be be hurt by ObamaCare to move to states that are more business-friendly (instead of moving to China or shutting their doors). A business that makes medical devices might be able to make up the ObamaCare tax by going to a state which has lower state corporate taxes or no income tax.
This will put added pressures on states that are not business-friendly to get with the program or they will continue to go down the tubes.
Right on, Michele (as well as DeMint and all the governors out there who are buying this 'Mickey Mouse' ruling). Know your enemy...and defy them!
Yes, the Governors should use their "discretion" in implementing the law. by not implementing anything until after the elections....
According to the Supreme court, the states can not be punished for it.
She's right, but they don't even have to do it after 2014. Just ignore it, and go on with your lives. First of all, Obama is not a legitimate United States President. Second, this bill could not be argued as a tax in front of the Supreme Court, because of the tax law, therefore it couldn't be ruled Constitutional as a tax. It wasn't ruled Constitutional either way. Those that voted for this on the court, broke the law by doing this.
Michele is in real need of financial support if she is to keep her seat. Her competitor has $140m and you know he will get additional help from the DNC.
Michele's presidential run cost her dearly so we need to help her as much as we can.
I figured they had a plan. Let's not sell our constitutional conservatives short. They may be few in number but we can all work together to elect more of them. Gov. Palin and her PAC do a great job of promoting them.
Palin and Bachman are conservative and represent the right. Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz are liberal and represent the left. Which pair would you trust with your best interests? Think about it.
there may be no election.....we are on a dangerous path.........why? .......... Michaeal Savage said it all: "criminal gang from Chicago............."
Bachmann has a backbone of steel. How we ended up with Romney instead of a strong conservative like Bachmann is beyond me. I just don't get it. Conservatives are so worried about defeating Obama and his agenda, so they elect a moderate where we have to worry about it being done? It makes no sense to me at all.
It's like that old riddle about "how do you eat an elephant?" Ans. One bite at a time.
We unfortunately, who allowed our values and traditions for tolerance and charity to be taken out of our hands and become "institutionalized," at the same time allowed a "JACKASS" to get its nose into the tent.
The only way to get rid of this particular jackass is to eat it, one bite at a time. Romney's just the first bite.
Who gets the drumstick?
I wish Michele Bachmann had done better in the primaries. I really think she would have been a game changer if she won. She would have been the next best thing to Sarah Palin. But it was not to be. I hope that if Romney wins, he gives Bachmann a good cabinet position. I think she deserves it for always fighting the good conservative fight, especially with her huge support for the Tea Parties.
I hope many constitutional conservative patriots get a position in Romney's cabinet including Bachmann, Cain, Palin, West and some others. If he doesn't do it, he's going to get bounced out on his corporate backside in 2016. I think it's obvious most Americans have had just about enough of the BS from both sides. The Dem's get in for awhile and the Repubs say how awful they are and they can change things. Then they get in and do the same thing the lib's were doing only w an R behind their name. Then the Dem's say they can do better. They just keep bouncing the ball back and forth and no one catches it.
Open resistance to this system of lawlessness. The Republic is in grave danger from Socialists attacking from within.
She declared it to be "cooperating with the enemy." Friends, this is an historic time in our nation's history - this is far and away different from usual political rancor.
I've been so upset and dumbstruck these past couple of days... I haven't made one comment here... But seeing this just raised my hopes a little. I have been nauseated and I feared writing something I'd regret and probably get kicked off the Scoop! Yes.. we're not sunk yet... All the governors of this great nation with any common sense will also reject the monstrosity... please, God... send us your Angels to combat this evil in our time... allow us to protect our children from these evil-doers...forever. Amen.
Michele I'm so glad you're in the House. Sorry that the Presidential campaign wasn't successful but I'm glad you're still in Congress. I remember the influence you had coordinating the masses to go to DC and stare their Congressmen in eyes to tell them not to vote for Obamacare. What a spine of steel.
What next? Nullify!
Just because John Roberts acted illegally, doesn't mean the law is now legal, it just means that he broke the law.
And here's a link to a good video from the Cato Institute about how states can throw a monkey wrench in the works by simply not participating in the health insurance exchanges. Participation is not mandated in Obamacare. Interesting.
Sigh. I heard her when I turned the radio on, and told my husband, dang I wish she was the republican pick. I'm glad they're rolling on this. I know Scott in Florida hasn't started it.
[Blue/broke] States are viewing this as a bailout. Our Governor came out and spoke to that effect about the law, of course, he just cut Medicaid dramatically (IMO to help with the teacher union strike coming up in Chicago, and the attempts at negotiation). Also, Chicago Public Schools are integrating health insurance sign-ups. Since the spring season, they have robo-calls coming out of CPS to get families to sign up for plans at school. This is a giant merger of power....and so far, it's at the expense of the poor and to the benefit of the teacher. I love this party! They give lip service to the poor, and stab them in the back to pay off the unions.
The liberals don't care about people... they use demographic groups to advance their agenda but all they care about is their own power via massive government expansion. President Johnson implemented welfare programs that were going to end poverty... but liberalism only keeps people in poverty, and it doesn't matter what color you are. They don't care about blacks, Hispanics, or women unless they agree with the left's political agenda. That is the big lie and they have managed to keep people ignorant of the truth of history to perpetuate their lies and propaganda. Do blacks know that there were blacks in Congress in the late 1800's until Democrat President Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government... and that the south was segregated by Democrats... that the KKK was founded by Democrats...? Do they know that emancipation was given by Republicans... that Martin Luther King was a Republican... and that Republicans voted for the civil rights legislation in greater numbers than the Democrats? Ignorance is the biggest problem we have in this country!!! When you know the truth, it really does set you free!
Mrs Bachman, a great American Patriot. When Americans fought the Britt's Americans were led by Americans such as Congress lady Bachman.
Tea Party Warrier.
tea party patriot
According to our McClatchy newspaper this morning- CA is now in hyperdrive, spending the anticipated fed monies. Our gov., the moonbeam, thinks that it's full steam ahead. He's fooling his constituancy, but they don't know it yet. They'll howl like banshees when they find out the cost. And you know who will get blamed, Reps. that have been locked out of the negotiations. Our whole state budget is being predicated on the assumption of passage of his "rich taxes" that is on our ballot in November.
I moved out of California in 98' to finish raising my kids in Oregon. (small town) The irony is that Oregon is a corrupt liberal piece of ground as well.
The regulations are just ridiculous on the fishing. They killed off Diamond Lake a few years ago due to invasive species, then replanted it. The fishing is getting good up there. I think that you can still use a barbed hook on the lake.
yeah, it was great fishing there in the 60s. Learned to fish on the Umpqua, and at Diamond Lake.
Sorry to hear they screwed it up
I went hiking up there a couple of weeks ago. I grew up on the North Umpqua. When I was a kid (seventies) this was a booming logging town. Then Clinton shut us down. That is a nice area to grow up in. Salmon hatchery nearby, fly fishing galore. The USDA and Fish and Game have pretty much ruined the fishing, and shut down a lot of the roads. (Clinton executive orders that Bush promised to end)
We got the heck out of dodge, in the 90s after living our entire lives in San francisco due to school issues as well. Living in Arizona now. Sadly, a once red state is changing dramatically.
Most things are the same. There haven't been any big population growths here. There are very few clear cuts in the mountains, and few logging trucks on the road. There is lots of thick twenty year old stands of trees with really thick underbrush, and lots of closed roads due to the shutdown of the woods.
Other than that, we have lots and lots of retirement homes that went up, and the economy is almost solely service oriented now. You can barely get through the middle of town when the SS checks are sent out.
Fortunately my family are all Conservative Repubs. However, I have lost most of my friends because I can no longer be silent, and they cannot tolerate even listening to another point of view and they get mad. It would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.
dang, you guys are making me homesick!
(haven't lived there in decades actually; wonder if I'd recognize it)
Traveling the US is not what it used to be. People are herded through the main thoroughfares of tourist attractions. I have no interest in that. Not to mention the police state style controls. As the UN takes over our national monuments, its just not the same.
You can hardly go hiking without dealing with permits and fees that have to be paid in advance. When I mentioned the fishing issue, I was referring to the fact that you have to hire a lawyer to translate the rules every year before you can be sure that you won't be breaking the rules.
I went hiking a camping about a month ago. Everything was damp and hadn't dried up yet. I hiked in four miles and camped at a lake about a month ago. The USDA doesn't allow a camp fire in a wet area next to the lake. There are federal law enforcement officers all over the woods. They actually have forest cams that they check on to see who is doing what.
I am afraid that the country that our fathers grew up in is gone.
Oh G-d. In re to Ashland.
It was liberal even when I was there in the 80's. But homo land. Eegads. I can see that though.
I liked Medford too. We did quite a bit of camping on the Rogue River.
I liked Klamath Falls …A lot. It was a great place and I liked the college there …Its where I finished my degree.
Crater Lake! soo beautiful. Did some snow shoeing there. That is harder than it looks.
It was funny, silly college kids needed beer and had to drive to cali to get it!
Every one had their picture taken with the WEED sign. ( Weed California). ha ha. Yes easily amused college kids.
Wow, there are so many states to see. You need a ROAD TRIP. :-) what am I saying, I only live 90 min away, and Ive never been to the Grand Canyon.
Ashland is a strange place now. It is the liberal homosexual capital of southern Oregon. Other than that, it is right at the base of the mountain and close to a lot of good territory such as the ski resort, rivers, lakes, etc.
Klamath falls is a nice area which is fairly secluded from the main stream of progress, and has a lot of agriculture going on. I wouldn't mind living there. A big lake, and access to a lot of wilderness.
It sounds like you have had a pretty good west coast experience. I have never been out of Oregon and California, except for a brief trek over the border of Nevada. I drove over the bridge into Washington state, then turned around and came back. So I have technically been in four states. Whoooopi.
I went to college in Oregon. Its a beautiful place.
Ashland, and Klamath falls were my haunting grounds for 4+ years.
I suppose that SF is much like Oregon. It rained yesterday, and is overcast today. It is supposed to rain tomorrow. The strawberry crop on the farm was short lived and wiped out by the rains. The cherries are there, but haven't had enough sun. They may end up splitting as well. My tomatoes are just stagnant in growth as well.
When it is 95 inland, that 75 deg sunny weather on the coast is nice. My sister lives in Susanville Ca, where there is lots of sun, but cold winters, and lots of dry wind. I liked the long springs and summers in Sacramento, but the mild climate here in Oregon is good overall.
Then again, I grew up here, and am used to it. I would have a hard time leaving the green mountainous landscape and being surrounded by forests.
surfing in kayaks. Sounds fun.
We camped on the American River back in my 20's. Good times. Seems like so long ago. I guess because it was.
I really miss the ocean. Nothing like going there after a long day and just watching the waves. The weather in SF was horrible but growing up there you get used to over cast and fog. Dreary. Now in Arizona, its just the opposite. HOT, Sunny. Blue Skies ALL the time. Until the monsoon cometh.
I met a Japanese guy up on the American river one time. He joined our white water kayaking group. Later, I met him north of SF and we surfed in our kayaks. It was pretty cool stuff, except for the territorial surfers.
I've been back twice, and I know exactly what you mean.
Its good we both got out while we could.
Ive only gone back to visit a couple times and couldnt wait to come home.
The only thing I really miss is the beach/ocean.
Yeah. That was the only time that I remember having any real victories as a conservative. I am sure that California now has affirmative action again, but it was sweet while it lasted.
I don't trust Jan Brewer. After the Quartzite situation, I figured that she is just a two faced establishment governor. Oregon has establishment democrats entrenched deeper than an old growth tap root.
We were in Sacramento, and just couldn't see staying there for the sake of our kids. Do you remember when governor Pete used executive order to enforce the ban on affirmative action? That was awesome.