"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes DUTY!" - Thomas Jefferson
"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson
"We need a revolution every 200 years, because all governments become stale and corrupt after 200 years." - Ben Franklin
"We, the people are rightful masters of both Congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson
"The ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people would develop plans of resistance and resort to arms." - James Madison
"When a government betrays the people by amassing too much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise the original rights of self defense - to fight the government." - Alexander Hamilton
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
One more step towards a socialistic and communistic society under these F-ing clowns..."From My Cold Dead Hands"
There will be no martial law, Mr. Obama will just pass an banning EO, then allow the local police to do the hard work. The major law suits will then start and will end up at the SCOTUS......it will be a split until Roberts stabs the gun owners in the back and goes with the leftist. Thats when the 2nd civil war will start.
there will be blood! After Obama and his jack booted thugs kill some 10,000 Americans just to get their guns, there will be a large response. I don't want to be here when that happens.
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT... DRUNKIN JOE...
if you bat-crap crazy loons dont want a civil war ... you had best leave the 2nd amendment alone...
there are hundreds of gun laws on the books... that we as law abiding gun owners follow..
the criminals dont follow these hundreds of gun laws....
we have our guns to protect ourselves from you .. THE TYRANTS...
COME AND GET THEM..... I DARE YA
If I'm not mistaken BO is the executive and responsible for enforcing laws NOT at all responsible for making laws. I believe that is done by legislators in the house and senate. I'm a dummy and know that...why doesn't JB. Although it seems of late the constitution is not our governing document any longer.
-A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
I lived in Guatemala from 1948 to 1952. My dad carried a gun while we were living down there. Everybody had to, there was too much violence just after the war.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! IT’S A NO BRAINER! DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment! It’s time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us. You’re not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people.
Time to ask why this simple history and example of Switzerland isn't on the most watched show, ex. O'Reilly's, and household knowledge. All I hear on TV is how other countries have fewer guns and less crime.
We will always have more crime for many uniquely American reasons.
But this information is not out there and not even part of the average peron's conversation.
Somebody here surely can call up Bill.
Remember all law-abiding citizen gun owners: WE are the last line in the defense of liberty. DO NOT COMPLY! DO NOT COMPLY! DO NOT COMPLY! Do not register your guns, do not submit to fingerprinting, do not tell anybody what guns you own. Remember the American Revolution began because the Red Coats were marching to Lexington to SIEZE WEAPONS from the people!
Never read it that way...what was he saying to Peter? Always was taught Peter was the inappropriately impulsive one.
I don't mind asking cause want to know how people think...
Inappropriate, hard to say, those were violent times for sure, not like they were being pulled over for running a red light in small town USA. They were asked if they had swords earlier by Jesus, but was meant for their own protection after Jesus leaves them, Jesus he knew what had to go down who needed to survive (Peter) and had the power to stop the fray, really do you think anyone else would have been able to stop a group of Roman soldiers after having one of their own loose an ear? He meant for Peter to return his sword to his scabbard too, but the jist was towards those who were about to land the next blow. Think of it this way, If he stood by after Peter swacked a guys ear off and said "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword" The Romans for sure would have gotten dusty with Peter at that point. But that's not how it was to play out.
This gun thing...
Have struggled with it, didn't grow up with guns, never got it.
When I first read the article here, I thought the "Fools rush in..." comment referred to the "gun-grabbers" as those rushing out to buy guns. Then realized, obviously, it refers to those wanting to take them away...
Thought-provoking article, which helped me finally start to get it: the Second Amendment Right.
But, with the 300 million guns in this country about to double probably before these laws get passed, the craziness of that, and the Civil War the author sees...
What can we feel about an upcoming battle to fight to protect our right that will probably really destroy us from within?
"Those who live by the sword..."
It still is confusing.
... will die by the sword"... Who do you think he was facing? If you ever stepped into the fray that a friend might have started you face the stranger, not your friend so you don't get killed. Jesus was talking directly to the Roman Authoritarian Soldiers and told them to put them (swords) in their place. Not to get rid of them. He was referring to the Criminal State and those who take part in it for a living "...live by the sword..." you can add any violent criminal to this list of "living by the sword".
Read this article:
Obama will get our guns by using Russian troops trained at Ft Carson Colorado, not our military.
Remember a couple of years ago that Obama had the Russian military training at Ft Carson Colorado? That is who he is planning on having do his dirty work of rounding up the guns, not our military.
Do you think more gun control would lessen the number of gun related crimes?
Bite Me is talking out of his a$$ again, allowing his mouth to make promises that his body can't keep. Just like his promise that if we passed the porkulus there would be 500,000 new jobs per month. Whoops, that didn't work out too well for you, did it joe?
Don't these clowns see that their attacks on firearms is the bests advertising for the industry! More bloviating please!
The congress is too respectful /afraid of the people to pass anything that would endanger their sure electoral defeat.
Crack coacaine is illegal, but the "young kids" are able to get it...how are gun laws going to be any different.
"Joe Biden…….one of the consummate liars and demagogues of our political age. A blustering boisterous blowhard of a man, who careens forward, capped teeth flashing in the sun, through inaccuracies and conflations of all shapes and sizes with reassuring emotional appeals and tough-sounding rhetoric. His entire career is built on his ability to tell blatant falsehoods and sound convincing while he does it. He is the ideal modern specimen of Senator qui absurdum est, his DNA strands traced to the very first braggadocios of Rome, clad in the toga candida, who so enjoyed interrupting the stammering Cicero. Joe, crazy Uncle Joe, ended up as Vice President – can you believe it? In Today’s America, Believe it!! Whenever he opens his mouth and spews out the most ridiculous statements like this one….it reminds me of the south end of a north bound mule with a diarrhea problem. Biden just thinks he’s lucky to be along for the ride, and he’s the best there is in politics because the average American believes it.
Biden forgot one thing Mayor, the people. 2.8 million NICS purchase checks in Dec 2012. The people will have the final say,not Biden,not you,not Obama neither. Too bad Hillary's blood clot didn't hit her brain and your ailments haven't killed both of you. No gun needed.
Menino might well be sure to have his state police guard around at all times. His position, in, of all places- where the basis for the 2nd was formulated- is likely to make him a most unpopular person.
And, for his ignorance of where the street gangs get their guns, it SURE AS HELL isn't from LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS!
In other words, they're going to shove it down our throats even though they know the public is against it. Typical. Hitler did the same thing. So did Stalin.
As the left always says: "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
As I always say, "Never listen to waste during a crisis".
Google youtube.com and enter Susan Daniels in the search box. Listen to one of the interviews about how Barack Obama has been using a fraudulent Connecticut social security number since he was twenty-five. That is a felony. Felons cannot legally be president.
It is a statement made by King Leonidas of Sparta. The persian emperor Xerxes with over 500,000 marauders was invading Greece. King Leonidas had 300 of his personal bodyguards (see the movie The 300). the persian said "lay down your arms and you will be spared" - King Leonidas said "Molon Labe" translated from the Greek " Come and Take Them". A statement from history that pertains to losing our arms today right here in America!! J
Bumbling Biden and Mumbles Menino, both minions of Marxism and neither can properly comprehend the simple language of the Constitution. The Second Amendment is quite clear ... what do they not understand about the phrase " ... shall not be infringed"?
He can do what he wants but he still can't get around the fact that any law that is a violation of the Constitution is unlawful.
Bring it, moron! We the People will not comply.
American Revolution II is coming to our country soon.
If you look up stats of countries that enacted gun confiscation, they were at most 20% successful.
If it were tried in the USA, you're talking about a Civil War that the government can't win.
Of the hundred million or so gun owners; even if only 3% of them truly believe that their government has become tyrannical, that’s 3 million heavily armed soldiers
that will defend their God given Rights, under the dictates of the Declaration and the Constitution.
Local police, state police, DHS, and TSA total around 800,000, and you can forget the local and state police from participating. They want to enjoy the unfettered consumption of oxygen.
A vast majority of military are from Red states and vowed to Defend the Constitution....same with ex military.
TSA is a gaggle of “burger flipper perverts” in blue shirts who couldn’t hit a barn with an RPG.
DHS...half of them have families and would decline to participate.
One last fact: Barak Hussein Obama is the greatest gun and ammo salesman in the history of the world...and they weren’t bought for shooting squirrels.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I really do believe that they are putting out all of this rhetoric about banning all kinds of guns, when their main agenda is just registration right now. I am not saying that they don't want to ban them all, just that they make it huge, then settle for one or two things. Registration is just one of the main steps toward a total ban. They don't know where the guns are, and will need to when the time comes to take them. This is just history in the repeating.
Lets be careful not to be reactionists, and lose our head on this issue. Just be aware of how it is done, and peacefully resist before they get too much of their agenda accomplished. Buy your guns used, outside of a dealer if possible. Do not register them. Do not let them control the chain of ownership. Make sure that you get what you want before they make it difficult and expensive to acquire.
They will not relent, because we are too close to a full shut down of this country, and they know it. They are making it happen, knowingly. They know that their job will be much harder further down the line if they don't get the guns up front.
It would be preferrable that the states fight back, rather than the individual Americans. It would be preferrable that law enforcement and military refused orders to enforce these laws. It would be preferrable that the politicians would protect our rights, but that is not why they are put in office by their buddies and fraudulent electoral system.
This isn't just a bunch of liberals that don't get it, it is the entire federal government that has grown corrupt, is now owned primarily by foreigners, and is carrying out a plan to shut down the country and basically have nothing left but slaves to the ruling elites.
No joke people.
not only do they know where the guns are, they have all the computers to detect anybody doing anything !
I suppose that they do know in some states. Others, they do not. It is probably time for people to quit talking and posting what guns they have online, and keep it quiet over the phone as well.
They know that many police will not enforce whatever they come up with. Many will. By making it federal, they can then collect all previously collected data, and build on it from there.
They are storing all electronic communications now. They are using data points to compile lists on people. They then rate the content and prioritize the possible threats. This narrows down who they will consider to be top priority come time to confiscate.
If you don't plan on complying, you better have a good plan and know what they are going to do ahead of time.
"I am not saying that they don't want to ban them all, just that they make it huge, then settle for one or two things."
Exactly. This is the only way the gun-grabbers will see success. Nibble, nibble, nibble.
It's representative of the Overton Window:
- Gun-grabber introduces bill. It's complete non-sense, like Frankenstein's bill. Ban 4238 things, register this, control that, blah-de blah blah. Only a small handful of extreme leftists will support it.
- Negotiatiate, argue, debate, etc.
- Result might be the passage of legislation that bans the manufacture of magazines over ten rounds (grandfathering accepted), or it might be a registration requirement of new handguns. Every lefty is cool with that, most indifferent people will be ok with it, and even a few conservatives who don't know any better might go, "can't hurt"; so it passes. We get duped into losing a liberty without even realizing it, just because the final bill 'tastes' a lot better than what was thrown at them in the beginning.
Not a single piece of the bill warranted discussion in the first place, but....there you go.
Well, this will be interesting. This administration has used executive order to get around a balky congress before, I expect something ridiculous and entirely unconstitutional to follow soon (after all, BHO thinks he's got licence now, and the Republicans are essentially cowards). The interesting part will be if gun owners will resist. There isn't 70 million jail cells.
"Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg co-chair the 500-mayor-strong Mayors Against Illegal Guns".
"Mayors Against Illegal Guns", huh? More leftist double talk.
2 'gun free zone' cities, with the strictest gun laws go after 'legal' gun owners, with 'legal' weapons, yet have some of the highest 'Ghetto (illegal) gun crime' statistics. ;-)
Joyce Lee Malcolm: Two Cautionary Tales of Gun Control
“Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation arms as the blackest.” —Gandhi
“I WOULD risk violence a thousand times rather than risk the emasculation of a whole race.” —Gandhi
“I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully.” —Gandhi
I'm not sure how Biden thinks that "Obama will pass gun legislation" is going to work. If the House passes any weapon ban those congressmen and women better prepare to primaried in the next election. Although there is talk of an "assault weapon" ban I don't know if it will pass the House. It better not.
Also, the mayor talks about gangs being able to get guns. Those come from secondary markets and I would like to bet that more often than not handguns are used in crimes not rifles. It's a little hard walking around trying to look somewhat innocent after a crime while at the same time trying to hide a rifle somewhere on your body. Pistols are much easier to conceal.
Edit: Plus Joe Biden is an idiot.