My daughter asked how to protect herself from the rfid tag in her passport (she is worried that *anyone* could scan it, which is correct) so I told her to wack it with a hammer. Mission accomplished. Same with school id's... its just a chip... wack it with a hammer.
You can disable RFID badges by zapping them in the microwave or zapping them with a stun gun.
Tell the morons that are pushing this agenda to stick these RFID's up their asses.
i feel like i would get so much trouble from hacking either the badge or the scanners. I would treat it like my DEFCON badge or SchmooCon badge and try to hack messages into it.
I haven't read all the posts on this subject so I may be repeating some ideas here.
First and foremost the idea that these chips will be able to locate a student is based on the fact the students will have them on at all times. Problem is most schools have I.D. badges and many of the kids lose them on a consistent basis. All a student has to do is slip their badge into another students back pack and presto, they are at school (even if the child is physically present at school or not).
Second, this badge would do nothing in identifying any dangerous materials any child would bring to school. The badges only relay information as to the whereabouts of the badge not who is carrying it or what else they may be carrying. This is the purpose of surveillance cameras.
Third; and perhaps one of the most important points is exactly how is any school system allowed to monitor the whereabouts of a student at all times. Does the school turn off the tracking after the school day is over? Does the school report all the child’s movement? Where does all the money come from to buy this kind of technology when all the schools do is complain about not having the funds to purchase the technology needed to teach our students?
There are so many issues about this kind of monitoring. No school or politician should be able to hide this issue under the guise of protection of our schools and children with such a simplistic and feeble excuse.
What would even be the purpose for this? The excuse is "safety", but how? If someone was going to do something they know they'd get in trouble for all they have to do is drop the badge until they get done doing the deed.
I can see her point about conditioning kids to accept being tracked. One day we will all have embedded chips in our arms. Fun fun.
The Statists know exactly what they are doing
German parents lose custody of their children for homeschooling
“In our increasingly multicultural society, school is the place for a peaceful dialogue between different opinions, values, religions and ideologies,” Berlin’s education minister, Juergen Zoellner, told BBC in 2010.
“It is a training ground for social tolerance. Therefore, homeschooling is not an option for Germany.”
Wow! I had no idea things were so bad in Germany that you can't even homeschool a child? That is so wrong on every level! The justification you highlighted in your comment is just the sort of carp that Liberals would pull here if they thought they could get away with it. Talk about a Brainwashing Camp disguised as a school, just WOW!
The chips are passive.... NOW... But wait... When they get the kids and their parents used to this, they will bring in "new" *active* chips that can be tracked using an smart phone - and will tell parents it's a good thing because they can track their kids themselves. Then they will say that too many kids are losing or not wearing their chips and so they will - at first - suggest - that they get "implants" telling parents again that this will mean the kids can't forget their chip and they will be even more secure, etc...
I'm sure I don't need to detail the huge downside to all this... Other than to say it's a dark, slippery slope to "enslavement to government control by consent" :-(
Just say NO to control freaks!
these id's also track kids ALL the time.
wtf does that have to do school?
another attempt to inject gov into every aspect of life.
This is an invasive of privacy and free will.
The principals and school system never articulated what problems led to the school system to want to get the tracking system? Are there kidnappings, school gangs leaving the premises and vandalizing neighborhoods?
If Northside isn't sitting in a room tracking students, like the principals pretend, why invest the money into the technology? There is a lot of double speech here.
We already do. They are called cell phones. Of course you don't have to have cell, but you're right, at the pace we're going it is only a matter of time before Govt. wants to implement this for all - in the name of safety and for our own good, of course.
Always start with the young, they get used to it. When they grow up the idea of tagging people for purposes of government control won't be any big deal, they'll think it normal.
Erode freedom, free speech, self reliance, freedom of religion in small bites, easier to swallow that way.
So, when do we start implanting these tags into people? There are people who would like to see this done.
My wife and I seriously struggle to keep our daughter in a private Christian school. It costs around $7500 a year for tuition and that doesn't cover all the other "little" expenses that public schools take for granted (cheerleading uniforms, retreats, field trips, science materials, school lunches, etc.). We are a single income household and frankly, we are sacrificing our retirement money to keep her in that much safer environment.
I say that not to sound like a martyr or to illicit feelings of sympathy - we made this choice and we will do what must be done to care for our daughter. But I share this because of crap like this going on in public schools. I firmly believe that children who must attend those schools are being indoctrinated and brainwashed. Don't believe me? Did you watch the EPA video Scoop put up? And where is Obama doing a great deal of his campaigning? In schools. Also, some schools let Obama campaign materials and events on their grounds but not Romney's...
This evil (indoctrination and lies about history, government, etc.) must be stopped. I know most Americans cannot afford private schools... but there are many solutions to this issue and Americans should have the freedom and ability to put their kids in a safe school where they are free from nonsense and taught the truth, and provided a quality education.
It is hard to do, if not impossible, by design.
Our kids are out of public school but barely escaped this indoctrination. Now that we have no kids in school I am fighting hard to stop this. It is about our future. America is the last stand.
as an aside, the RFID technology used in badges and the like is passive (does not transmit a signal) and can only be read if the chip is placed very close to to an RFID reader. It is very easy to defeat if applied to actual tracking of people or goods.
Well, for once I read through all the comments first, and wow- I have nothing left to say.
Homeschool, private school or quit whining.
George Orwell's "1984" should be required reading, not only for students but teachers and politicians also.
If you are a conservative and still send your kids to lefty, socialist, revisionist indoctrination camps, there is a major disconnect somewhere between your ears and your soul. The growing disconnect between your kids and you will noticeably widen too.
Pull 'em out and keep 'em out. Where there's the will, there's a way.
Mm, mm, mm.
Honestly, my kids are in public elementary school but I make damn sure that they recognize the left wing agenda and are very well equipped to fight back. They're only in elementary and middle school and already understand our Constitution, our founding principles, economics and capitalism better than most well-educated adults.
I pity the lib teacher that even tries to peddle their propaganda. They'll be instantly confronted with a healthy dose of the truth. Bring it on!
Good for you!
Since we have the benefit of being close to Independence Hall, Brandywine Battlefield and Gettysburg, we plan on making trips a key component in their education.
You are the best teacher to your children!
The most educational trip we've had was the 9/12 march on D.C. in 2009. It was a day that they will always remember. They saw more people that day than any other time in their lives. They also saw the media almost totally ignore it. Talk about an educational experience regarding the MSM!
On that same trip, we also visited the grave of a soldier in Arlington National Cemetery that was killed in Iraq. Everyone that visits D.C. should take the time to visit. It's a profound experience.
To be honest...I don't think Students have a right to privacy at all. I think they have a right to SAFETY, but Privacy and Safety don't always equate. We task the school with knowing, at any given time, where our children are. We expect them to always have accountability of them, whether in their heads or in written form (hall passes, written messages, etc.). So why not provide an electronic means of tracking them, so that we don't have to rely on the WORD of some "educator"...we can find out instantly when we need to.
If you think a Student has a right to privacy at school, then that means they have a right to privacy at home...who here agrees with that? The school is an extension of the home, and if anything there are LESS rights at School (not more). So if the student has a right to privacy at School, that means they have MORE of a right to privacy at home (I know...that's not really possible, since a right is 100% of that right, but you get what I'm saying...).
We HAVE to start reigning in these kids...and if the ACLU is interested in fighting against these RFIDs then they MUST be okay!
Also, as a sidenote, if they had RFID trackers that I could implant in my child as a baby that would allow me to find them whenever I need to, I'd do it. In this day and age, it is IMPORTANT to be able to find your child at a moment's notice. It would virtually end kidnapping as we know it.
Just my .02...I have a feeling this post will be a bit controversial! The FIRST PERSON to call me a Liberal is getting a virtual kick in the junk! LOL!
We task the school with knowing, at any given time, where our children are.
so you task the school to know where your kids are when at home, on vacation, NOT IN SCHOOL, etc?
how about the school be in charge of the kids while in school and at NO other time.
if student skips school, fail them.
Are you kidding me...you know darn well I meant while they are AT school...
Those RFID trackers cannot operate outside the network zone (ie: school grounds).
Other sources say the ACLU does want to take this case, and also say that the trackers cannot work outside the school grounds. As far as truancy issues, nobody needs to be watching it. If a student isn't in class, and the teacher checks the tracker and the tracker isn't at school, then the student must not be there. If the tracker IS at school, then the student simply isn't in class. THEN the investigation starts. It all begins with the teacher, who after roll-call determines which students aren't there and finds out if their tracker is on-campus or not. Then from there, the investigation begins.
sure they can, if passive anyone with a right reader nearby can read them and if active (as many reports from few weeks ago on this "breaking news" stated) then they can be tracked anywheres.
and explain this, this program is to track students for truancy issues yet has NOBODY assigned to actually do that?
and the aclu didn't want to take some of these cases because they don't have the potential to achieve broad and lasting advances in civil liberties
resistance is futile.
I will one up you here .... I actually like my public school. The teachers have been amazing with my special needs son.
I'm happy to hear that! My entire Public School experience was incredibly traumatic...but at least SOMEONE is getting a decent experience! :-D
It just depends on where you live and what kind of parents you have involved in the schools.
This is the truth. It always boils down to the locality.
Completely spot on, IMHO. I'm not saying some schools aren't completely out of control - but not all of them are. My youngest is in HS and it is a great school. Sure, there are liberals, but conversation is actually encouraged, graduation rate is high, we have a large military presence in our teaching staff (retired, reserve & National Guardsman), there's several Christian clubs, they still say the pledge everyday, we actually have two gun clubs (skeet & the other is a hunting club) and come the opening day of deer season attendance will be at a 1/2 of what it usually is because the kids will be with Dad filling the freezer for winter. :-)
It just depends on where you live and what kind of parents you have involved in the schools.
I'm glad you and I can dissent on this issue. I'm conservative, but I also exercise my rational thinking skills as well.
Study after study has shown that parental involvement is KEY to a child's opinion on politics, drugs, social behavior, and everything in between.
Parents have abdicated (more like out sourced) their responsibilities in the home. Some think, "oh, if I send my children to a religious school, then I won't have to worry about reading the Bible or teaching them about it at home."
I would even go a step further and argue, that on some level, the school doesn't matter, its more what type of family a child has at home that is more impacting and lasting. Schools don't raise children, parents do, last I checked.
Exactly! I went to private Christian or parochial schools all my life. I can tell you that had I wanted to, I could have bought or sold drugs everyday I went there. I could have had sex in the school had I wanted to. My sister decked a kid because he tried to sexually molest her at one school. I could have gotten physically violent had I wanted to (yes, there were actual bullies there...). I even went to one school where the Dean was fired/expelled from the church because he had an affair with a 17 yr Junior.
The difference was that our PARENTS would kick our arses from earth to the moon if/when we stepped out of line. We also would get kicked out of school and would not return at all because of behavior. That doesn't happen now. You now have a 'right' to an education regardless of your behavior and parents have abdicated their responsibilities to the school.
LOL. I disagree with some of the conservative thought on this issue. I get the "public school is bad argument." I also went to public school up till the 8th grade and then to a Catholic high school. Let me tell you, there was just as much drug and alcohol abuse and many of my peers got pregnant immediately after graduation.
Why did I end up differently than the rest "in spite" of a public school education? Its b/c my father was HIGHLY involved in our "home school" education. We were required to read the Bible daily AND our extra circular activities were HIGHLY monitored.
Education starts in the home period. I don't agree with sheltering children until they are adults, I'd rather teach them at home, so they are not shocked when they are out on their own.
So far our public school has been very good. That doesn't mean my guard is down, trust me its not. When it comes to my children, I am on high alert.
The school has a responsibility to account for the students. They also have a responsibility to ensure that the extent they infringe on privacy matches the situation. For example if they did full body cavity strip searches every morning and had double lockdown exit gates, one would say they have gone to far. On the other hand we had none of this when I went to school because if I did not show up on 5th period role call, my parents got a phone call from school and I paid big time for skipping school.
The question here is have they used RFID tags as a convenient mechanism to help them do thier job, or have they abdicated their responsibility to make the school safe, and assumed the role of parents. I say the latter.
But full body cavity searches would harm the student (mentally, psychologically, emotionally, and potentially physically). RFIDs are passive...no one even knows when they're there. In fact, the could quietly abandon the RFIDs, and EVERYONE would still be completely terrorized and flying off the handle about them (until someone told them they were gone).
This is irrational in my opinion. If we are tasking the school admin to know at all times where all of our kids are, then an RFID tracker allows them to do that job better and with fewer fallacies. Not to mention it is less invasive than actually asking the student where they are going...what if a student has to go to the bathroom 3 times in one class? Do we really think it'd be less invasive for the student to be forced to explain to the teacher what's going on, or rather to simply allow them to go and watch their RFID quietly to ensure the kid isn't ditching class?
see my note below. I agree these are passive chips and cannot be used for the Orwellian scenarios.
However, my point was that there is a spectrum running from totalitarian control, to one of discipline plus shared responsibility by the students and their parents. We have abandoned the latter, and, without asking ourselves if we should return to it, have just assumed more government control is the answer. It is a steady drift.
"The school is an extension of the home..."
No, it is not. It's a socialist indoctrination camp, diametrically opposed to the traditional home.
Oh, but it is an extension alright...of Marx, Engels, Alinsky, and that guy Alinsky dedicated his book to.
Tis true! Remember, back in the day, teachers taught in people's homes. Then they built school-houses, but had parents teaching the neighborhood kids. Then they hired teachers, but the PARENTS dictated the curriculum. Then they created School Boards that dictated curriculum, and if parents disagreed they'd complain and get certain parts changed. They even had spanking at school (only if the parents signed off). Then they got rid of spanking at school and stopped listening to the parents at all. The kids now run the asylum...
Pretty far away from how it's SUPPOSED to be, but that doesn't change the actual rights granted to students, one of which is NOT The Right to Privacy, nor has it ever been.
I have a suggestion. Why don't they put RFID tags on their teachers, volunteers and administrators and require a swipe each time they use the computer, make a telephone call so pedophiles can be identified more quickly.
Don't be fooled, this is a tracking device to control children. Given the opportunity, the gov't will place RFID into our Photo IDs.
Back in the day I did go to a very large HS. We did have an ID card that allowed us to purchase sports tickets, our year book, got us a discount on the city busses, and other school activities such as dances. It wasn't a problem. Of course there were no computers or technology as we have today. The only real concern is the abuse of power and normalizing the intrusion into privacy. That really bothers me. The kids will not be throwing those cards away as it also allows them priveleges about the school that they want and need. This is a huge double edge sword. At least the kids can wear the card and no chip is being implanted in them. Is it any worse than having to wear an employee ID? IDK.
It's not wearing the card that is the issue. The issue is that there is a chip in the card that can track the kid at ANY point. So, no matter where they are in the building, they can look up that card and see where that child is. This is SO COMPLETELY WRONG.
I see it as easing them into the idea of having one implanted. They will get used to it but not like having to worry about the badge getting lost, left at home etc. This is not good at all - where is Perry on this?