I did not vote, to allow a RINO 'Cardinal Richilieu' ascent ooffice, because 'it was his time'!
I voted to GET RID of RINO's.
If you say that's a tax cut, then Obama could say that he's been giving tax cuts since he's been in office!
Just say that the American people voted for tax increases and got it with Obama's plan!
The GOP should have passed a plan keeping taxes the same and cutting some programs. Then when Obama rejects it, cut taxes for the middle class and cut even more programs, then when Obama rejects that one, cut even more programs, etc. Do what he does. Keep pushing the boudries!
Yes, excellent news. NOT! A major tax cut bill has collapsed, Boehner is critically, if not fatally, wounded as house speaker, and the Republican party comes across as a bunch of quarrelsome brats. Please tell me how this is excellent news - unless you are one of those crazies who wants to go over the cliff with no parachute.
It is excellent news because all revenue issues originate in the House.
The Republicans are in control of the House, and can issue whatever they want, but Boehner doesn't seem to know that.
This is trench warfare. Surrender is not Compromise.
I could care less if the House shut down completely so nothing would move.
If I am taking a hit, I am not going to be a good sport about it.
Should I or shouldn't I, can't help myself.......
If you think that caving in and raising taxes on any part of our society is a good deal, you need help in understanding economics. What part of, "we have a spending problem" have you missed out on?
Boehner is just negotiating against himself as he has done previously. This is a solid victory for the Conservatives and principles.
Both dem's and rep's are worthless losers. Worried about their own security while throwing America into the cesspool of oppressive taxation and govt controls.
There may be more freedom in Russia
Finally some good news. Kudos to those republicans who have not sold out the American people. Pray for them peeps...Boehner and his RINOs are up to no good.
We need to rebel. The birth of America did not happen with conformity.
I heard he was acting like Obama again tonight, a thug. I'm proud of the House of Representatives, for standing up to his bullying, and doing what's right. God Bless them.
What happens now?
Everyone's taxes go up and the republicans get blamed and bo got what he's wanted all along....every single last dime every working American has to fund his paycheck and communist/Marxist/islamist ideology.
Win win for the worst potus in history....
Give me a break! How many times does it have to be said?! Obama wasn't going to sign off on Plan B anyway!
Maybe I am. Time will tell. American politics is funny like that. Just when one side thinks it has all the marbles the whole game changes, and it always comes without warning. And it's been that way from the beginning.
Well, you have to be the single most optimistic person living on this planet! I like it!
Again, you have my most sincere wishes and prayers you are correct.
LOL I know what you mean, but as I said you have to look at the long term. But in this case by long term I mean six years max. I believe that the repubs will take both houses of congress in 2014 this time with huge majorities that will lame-duck Obama for good. Most of the new repubs will be conservatives and people with TEA party support.
I believe two things are going to happen after that. First they have to repeal Obamacare (they will have a mandate to do that and they'll do it in about eight months). Then they will pass a reform package like Gingrich's contract with America, only much bigger and more sweeping. In 2016 they will win the white house as well.
(With the Scott Walker/Nikki Haley ticket...ok that's just my guess but I like the sound of it)
The new economic boom will begin in earnest in 2017, but there will be fallout from Obama's reign on and off until about 2020.
I have many more details I can go into to explain all of this but I don't want to bore you.
Here's another prediction for what it's worth. If everything else happens along the lines I described. Obama will throw a temper tantrum and resign in 2015 leaving Biden to finish his last year. That is if he's not impeached and removed in 2015 which is also a strong possibility.
That's the best news I've ever heard that simultaneously scared the daylights out of me!
I'm trying to find where that scenario could possibly be good news! Yikes!
That's easy. Economically what Obama's trying to do cannot work. He will drive the economy back into recession and kill his own recovery. First the tax hikes, and then the regulations, and finally Obamacare will flatline the the economy.
The news media can't keep carrying his water and they have no reason to. Look how much truth has been told just in the few weeks since the election. The news media is still a business and sooner or later it must return to its business model.
The owners will see to that.
Obama is wrong about everything, and people are going to know that for sure this time; because this time they're going to feel it. Not just hear about it REALLY feel it. And there isn't anything anyone can do to stop it now. Not Obama. not the democrats. Not even the republicans. No one! It's not the fiscal cliff, it's economic black hole that's waiting at the bottom of it.
All I can see being pushed over the "fiscal cliff" are the dear members of our military. They will suffer the most. That's alright Zero, most of our servicemen and women love you too *cough* *cough*.
The House passed the sequestration bill, it's sitting with Dingy Harry. The GOP needs to drive the nail in Harry's coffin daily reminding Americans that taxes will go up because of the Senate!
When I used to watch Fox News, this focus group with Nevada voters on the Hannity segment was most telling:
The one lady who was afraid the Senate would lose experience if Reid were not voted back into office was a prime example of the mentality of many uninformed, mind-numbed voters. How is Nevada doing today? They got and continue to get what they vote for. Ditto to the re-election of Zero.
Women like that are just mind boggling. There are entirely too many of them. I wish I was wrong, I wish there was a snowball's chance conservatism would rule the day again, but I truly believe those days are long gone.
bo got re-elected. Just think about that. With the record of the worst performance in U.S. history, with more things going wrong, more lies told, not one single promise kept, the first down grading of U.S. credit, record high unemployment, record crime...etc., etc., the man got re-elected. IF more Americans turned out to vote him out of office no amount of cheating on his part could have over come the people's will.
Homosexual marriage gained ground, smoking dope is legal in two states now, millions upon millions more are on welfare...our gun rights are about to be taken away...it's not a pretty picture, but it's the true picture.
May we all turn to the ONLY One who can bring peace in the midst of the devil's reign.
I'm beginning to think we need an intelligence test for people to remain in the US. I know we need one before someone can vote as well as before they conceive (father) a child.
It will, without an ounce of doubt, be because of the Senate. It's just too bad that it's pretty much the Scoopers and some others who think like us, who understand that little tidbit of info.
The media will shove it down the throats of their listeners that it was the republicans fault. And the saddest and most infuriating part it, the masses will believe them!
It effects these fine men and women and countless others as well.
Bremerton, Wa. will take a hit with the ship yards, not to mention the defense contracts of Boeing...the people in D.C. should be tar and feathered. Every. Last. One.
Amen we need to bring back that fine tradition, along with another one; running them out of town on a rail.
Agreed, my friend! So very sad to have to be subject to a president and a regime that not only hates the military but who also hates America.
I called my congressman today and left a message that the last thing he did while in office should be to make sure that tax rates DO NOT go up, on any one, PERIOD. I also told his VM that should he have the opportunity to deny the SOH a vote, then by all means, do it. Boehner doesn't deserve to represent WE THE PEOPLE!
Unfortunately the people will continue to vote for Obama and the Democrats. Why? Well, 47% are receivers and 5% are Union and Democrat elites who benefit from the Big Government waste. They'll suck every drop of blood/money out of the system and leave it for dead.
I kind of agree with you but you are missing an important point. That is the people in the country voted for this, they should have to experience it and be made to pay for it. It's really the only hope we have left, that people will wake up if re-connect the cost of big government with the people who vote for it.
Turn about is fair play wasn't he the guy that was making plans (A,B,C..Z) with the senate demons even though Paul Ryan's plan had been accepted by the house. The conservatives need to practice a little taqiyya long enough to get leadership committee positions.
I'm thrilled about this in that conservatism prevailed tonight! This was a protracted process that ended up creating more of a circus than it should have. Needless to say, Speaker Boehner lost a battle within his own party and it will be interesting to see if he can retain his speakership during the 113th session.
Dang, I didn't think the GOP would have the guts to go against Bohner! You know it was bad when even Hugh Hewitt was against the plan!
Well the house will adjourn in the last session for 2012.. The Dem's will make all kinds of noise saying how the republicans have been obstructionist, The Republicans will still take the blame on the Fiscal Cliff debacle, John Boehner (Maybe ???) will still be the speaker of the House and the only thing that has changed is that We all will become slaves to this government and to the boy king that runs this chicken coup of a country.
Merry Christmas all.. it will probably be the last merry one for a while..hurry up 2016
I kept hearing things like that during the election campaigns. Not to be totally doubtful, but I think that's wishful thinking. :(
Me too. But I'm pretty sure that I am. I'm basing it on years of studying the global economy and it's the global economy that's the key here.
I kept hearing the "trust me on this" too. But, I'd rather trust a fellow conservative then anyone else on the planet. We shall see. I truly hope you're right.
I can back it up. 2014 is going to be different for one simple reason. Obamacare goes fully into effect in January 2014. The election will come after it's been in effect for 11 months. All the repubs will have to do is promise to repeal it. Trust me on this.
So, the GOP should raise taxes and lie and say they aren't AND then think Obama still wouldn't reject it?! Get real!