For the idiots in the cheap seats (WITLESSundergraduate, Anus Isbell, the Paulnuts, various other miscreants), let us not forget the fact that Iran and Pakistan, two nations ruled under the domination of islamic theocratic lunacy, are called "natural allies", and do work with each other:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/south_asia/mg19df02.html
Now, let us also not forget this event from the recent past:
A stealth cruise missile, when dealing with technologically inferior detection equipment (and I don't know how advanced the Pakistani model is) can be a doomsday weapon that you won't even see coming. Pakistan is known to have military and intelligence ties to another American arch-enemy: the PRC:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/14/us-pakistan-china-usa-idUSTRE77D2BT20110814
As for the evil PRC, they've been getting into a technological field that the Americans [us] have dominated, for quite some time, and they've done it in a fashion that shows they're not only looking to take over, but they're already all-in:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-07-08/china/29750936_1_drones-global-hawk-zhuhai
Aggravating THAT is the fact that if you look at them [the PRC made drones], they're CLEARLY at least influenced by such American models as the Global Hawk and the venerable PREDATOR. This means they've been studying from afar for quite some time, and it also means we may be looking at PRC TECHINT that has come as the result of leaks or downright espionage/theft. Their target markets? Arab states (such as Iran), and, of course PAKISTAN. However, that doesn't meant that they wouldn't sell to one of their most notorious client states: NORTH KOREA.
The NORKS have their own way of complicating things, because not only are they allies with the ChiComs, but they're also friends with someone else: IRAN.
http://rt.com/news/iran-korea-nuclear-cooperation-413/
Quite possibly, with NORK help, they've been able to get this far with their nuclear program, which the IAEA, CIA, MOSSAD and others believe to be pretty far along. Now, let's also not forget something that Iran did, themselves, seemingly in response to Obama's election, and Biden's prediction that the sharks would smell blood, once the wimp got into the White House:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/03/iran-satellite-launch-omid
They launched a satellite. Then, another. In the military and intelligence biz, we have another term for "satellite": ICBM. Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile. Now, couple that with this:
http://defensetech.org/2009/02/04/iran-launch-could-mean-emp-weapon/
http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2008/1347/
and these:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/21/beijing-develops-radiation-weapons/?page=all
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17471
...and you have a very dangerous show brewing.
Benefiting from all these elements, Iran could utilized a drone made by the PRC (not the ROC; they're the good guys) to attack Israel. Simultaneously, with their increasingly aggressive naval posture...
...a cowardly, chinless, gutless, nutless excuse for a president [Obama] would allow them to get close enough to the US coast to launch an stealth cruise missile attack against the US, detonating it above US soil and causing untold death and destruction. In fact, I'm pretty sure they'd come with more than one missile.
http://www.therightscoop.com/nightmare-scenario-the-aftermath-of-an-emp-attack/
Failure to be proactive against an Axis THIS evil can result in looking at a two pronged assault against both the US and Israel. The US, the Great Satan, could be looking at multiple EMP weapon detonations, in order to cover the launch of drones bearing nuclear devices to attack the Eastern Seaboard [Washington DC], while a stealth missile strike could be used to absolutely DEVASTATE small Israel. Then, let us not forget the fact that we were recently THREATENED by the communist scumbags of Russia, for the missile defense system that Obama is half-assing:
http://news.yahoo.com/medvedev-russia-may-target-missile-defense-sites-123047622.html
This, seemingly, is an intentional effort to clear the way for Iranian missile strikes against targets of American/European interest [Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc.]. You people that I've already mentioned are absolutely clueless and brainless, and lack any semblance of critical thinking capabilities. You fail to look at the fact of the support network that Iran enjoys, coupled with the messianic HATRED the people of that nation bear for all things Jewish and American. If you have any capability of learning, coupled with post 4th grade reading skills, get a copy of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Iran-Threat-President-Ahmadinejad-Nuclear/dp/1403976643
Maybe you'll learn something, but I doubt it. Stop being bigots (which I know you won't, because its in your twisted, evil nature), wake up (again, I know I'm asking too much) and start to think (I know: won't happen). The pieces of the puzzle (something else beyond your intellectual grasp, even if its got only 2 pieces) are almost completely put together, and there for all the world with two functional brain tissues to rub together (which doesn't include you, I know) to see.
For someone who attends MIT if that is true- you've got a lot to learn. Crack a history book why don't you?
Bolton is a Zionist a****** and he cares more for Israel than America. He is a neo con and if allowed will once again spill our Christian children's blood in the middle east in order to benefit Israel, this time against a defenseless Iran. IF ISRAEL WANTS WAR LET THEM FIGHT IT WITH THEIR OWN BLOOD AND MONEY.
We would have no problems with Islam if not for Israel. Get real. The only threat muslims pose for us is when they IMMIGRATE into our countries!
They are not going to attack us any more than Cuba will attack us. Israel is the cause of all of this and it shouldn't have been allowed to get nuclear weapons.
Isn't it strange that John F. Kennedy was assassinated along with his brother Bobby and both of them attempted to get rid of the Federal Reserve (jewish) and to prevent Israel from getting nuclear weapons?
Today Arab states want nuclear weapons because they feel threatened by Israel and by the control that jews have over the only military superpower in the world.
Even if your asininity was true, so what? I'm both a Zionist, AND an as-hole. You have yet to show any proof that he cares more for any other nation, over America, and your word is worthless, here and overseas (except, possibly, Iran). He has served his country honorably as an ambassador to the accursed UN, as well as served his country [America] honorably in the United States Army National Guard. What branch did you honorably serve this country in, since you seem to want to put up the pretense that you love it, more than he does? Or are you just sitting in your feces filled tent, somewhere out in New York, hacking away on a stolen laptop, draining Starbucks wi-fi so you can sent out your hate mail?
You're about as clueless as Obama (to whom you are doubtlessly an acolyte). Guess what? Terrorists have been spilling American blood for decades, now. Where have your complaints been, about that? Where were you, when they bombed the WTC the FIRST time? Where were you when they killed my brother Marines in the barracks bombing? Where were you when they bombed our embassy? When they attacked and DESTROYED our embassy in Iran, and TOOK HOSTAGES?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444377/posts
You're not just clueless, you're just flat-out stupid, if you think Iran's defenseless. They've murdered American Soldiers and Marines in Iraq:
http://www.realclearworld.com/2011/06/28/is_iran_killing_us_soldiers_in_iraq_125024.html
You are the reason a lot of my friends in the military HATE civilians, and some hate civilians like you so much, it doesn't bother them much when you're KIA. Israeli civilians have been murdered, left and right by Iran that's been fighting a proxy war against the US and Israel for DECADES. Their own puppet president said he'd be willing to see HALF of his own people DIE, just to exterminate the Jews:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689559/posts
Where's your outrage about that, you punk?
How about this?:
Only a dumbass like you would go along with the leftist/Rumpelstilskin [Paulnut] that the muslim scumbags would just LOVE us, if we'd just cut ties with Israel. Only you would think America could EVER truly be friends with ANY muslim nation, including Iraq, including Afghanistan, including Saudi Arabia. Iran is actively working on attaining nuclear weapons, and guess what: America is the Great Satan. Israel is only the LITTLE Satan.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123093176783149767.html
Cuba won't attack us, because they aren't strong enough to even lay siege to Guantanamo Bay Naval Base. Iran is getting help from the Russians, the Red Chinese and the Norks on their WMD program, but you're so stupid, you'll just close your eyes to that, and pretend its not happening.
I'll bottom line this for you, because you're so stupid, reading more than 100 words is probably too big a chore for you: you're an anti-Semite bigot, just like Obama, just like Rumpelstiltskin Ron Paul and we all know that bigots have only two good things going for them: you're biodegradable and landfill safe. There's nothing I hate like a Jew-hater. Go back to the Daily Kos, dumbass. If anybody's a threat to world peace, its you and people that think like you, Anus Isbell.
"Israel is the cause of all of this and it shouldn't have been allowed to get nuclear weapons."
Israel has had nukes for decades, and have never used them.
"Today Arab states want nuclear weapons because they feel threatened by Israel and by the control that jews have over the only military superpower in the world"
Really? Interesting considering the Muslim Arab states which surround Israel comprise of 2,752,713 square miles, and Israel is 7951.6.
Interesting that you speak of spilled Christian children's blood. More of that has been spilled by Islam than of any other.
Israel is not a perfect nation, but show me one which is. That said, Israel has every right to defend themselves, just as any nation on this planet does- but by all comparison, Israel has shown more restraint than any other nation on this planet.
really....how is your Father Satan doing....you spew the same trash he has been spewing from the beginning...Satan has tried to destroy Israel and the Jewish People for centuries...and because We and Israel are inseparable if they perish so do we...God Himself has said "I will bless those who bless you (Israel) and curse those who curse you."
Confusion...
Dittos Dan, AmericanborninCanada and toongoon.
Annis Isbell seems to be repeating the anti-semitic line that Israel is the cause of Islam's hate and not Islam's "how-to-be-holy" book, the Qur'an.
The words, "we would have no problems with Islam if not for Israel" reveal the "confusion" of many who do not know the Qur'an.
And, if the DO know the Qur'an and it's instructions to "kill' all who will not submit to Islam, they definitely ARE confused about who God is.
The comments of Annis Isbell and all anti-semites reveal that the people who believe that Islam is NOT the problem but Israel IS the problem... do not know the God of Israel, Isaac and Jacob (... renamed Israel).
And, the people who do not know the God of Israel do not know, uh, God.
Art
"... the assumption ... is possible"...
Ok, the "possible" part is understandable.
Since my question to you CPAguy, Dan posted a Winston Churchill quote below that is relevant. I reformatted it for quick scanning.
- - - - - - - - - -
“Still,
“if you will not fight for the right
“when you can easily win
“without bloodshed;
if you will not fight
“when your victory
“will be sure and not too costly;
"you may come to the moment when
"you will have to fight
“with all the odds against you
"and only a precarious chance of survival.
“There may even be a worse case.
“You may have to fight
“when there is no hope of victory,
“because it is better to perish
“than live as slaves.”
Winston Churchill
- - - - - - - - - -
In the video clip above with John Bolton, what Winston Churchill said in in the 1940s sounds like Newton Gingrich in this quote in 2011.
Newt at 1min. 40sec. - Iran and Israel, and the bomb -
"I think it's a good idea,
"if your serious about stopping them [... Iran] having nuclear weapons,
"I think replacing the regime
"before they get a nuclear weapon,
1 >> "without a war,
"beats replacing the regime
2 >> "with a war,
"which beats
3 >> allowing them to have a nuclear weapon. ... ."
If it is truly NOT "possible" today as you say, is it possible that #2 WILL be "necessary" tomorrow if #3 is achieved with our tacit complicity?
What is the "tacit complicity" to which I am referring?
Allowing an evil nation such as political and religious Iran, with an evil political agenda that is supported by an evil religious ideology of submission to Islam and shariah, to join the nuclear club?
Art
Who knows...
... in these dark days, it is possible that it is relevant again.
Thanks for the link HiramHawk.
Atomic Alert 1951 -
>> 10 minutes - http://youtu.be/i4k2skbJDm8
Art
Same to you and your family Cindy! Hope you've had a Blessed Thanksgiving!
and no, I haven't had a chance to read any of Rosenberg's books yet. They are popular and always checked out at the library and even our 'virtual' library.
I've heard him speak and I go to his website all the time though. He's a prophet it seems!
Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves.
Sr. Winston Churchill
Excellent quote Dan...
"... fight for the right... ."
Maybe that is why BHObama does not like Churchill.
Churchill was for the "right" and not for the "left" as BHO is.
But. seriously, BHO can't handle the truth...
... especially when it comes from an English dead white guy who knows the difference between liberty and tyranny, between "right" and "left," between right and wrong.
How did Churchill encourage his people?
"... never give up"
How did Obama encourage his people?
"... we are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United Stated of America."
>> 1min. 38sec. - http://youtu.be/KrefKCaV8m4
In the video clip above with John Bolton, what Winston Churchill said in the 1940s sounds like Newton Gingrich in 2011.
Newt at 1min. 40sec. - Iran and Israel, and the bomb -
"I think it's a good idea,
"if your serious about stopping them [... Iran] having nuclear weapons,
"I think replacing the regime
"before they get a nuclear weapon,
1 >> "without a war,
"beats replacing the regime
2 >> "with a war,
"which beats
3 >> allowing them to have a nuclear weapon. ... ."
Art
you are so right...i Pray we have another chance and that this is not all in vain...i pray the God of Heaven will allow us one more chance like He did with Nineveh...
Jonah 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,
Jonah 1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.
is this our Nineveh moment of have we as a nation gone to far and gone the way of Sodom and Gomorrah...I say Pray like its Nineveh but prepare like is Sodom and Gomorrah...either way PRAY!!!!
Nineveh...
Yes Yes Yes.
Uh, now as I think of it... who is the Jonah of today?
Maybe we all are Jonah.
Glenn Beck has asked many times, "where is the George Washington of today?"
In his new book, "Being George Washington," Beck says
"For America to achieve the greatness that George Washington achieved, we first have to remember that it is achievable.
"I am George Washington.
"You are George Washington.
"We are all George Washington.
Art
I spent Thanksgiving watching riots in Portugal on RTP. 3 million on strike. 3 Molotov cocktails through bank windows. The world is preoccupied with the financial crisis and not paying attention to the Iranian threat.
"Iran is a tiny country. What threat do they pose?" - Barack One-bama 2008
yup... Stupid Americans elected garbage for President---- during a time of crisis. The path of the 21st century is being laid as we speak. Obama is sitting on the side lines as things go to hell. Way to go liberals
ran should be attacked for their nuke stuff to be destroyed, it would be bad for Israle to do it, even though the Arab countries would like it, but denounce it.
Before a strike by the US (not Israel) there needs to be more agreement that it is necessary.
We should tell Iran that If we go to war with them it will be World War2 against Japan style not Iraq and Afghanistan style.
We should tell Iran that If we go to war with them it will be World War2 against Japan style not Iraq and Afghanistan style.
Do that all you want; you know it wouldn't be true. Obama is not the guy I think of, when it comes to smashmouth warfighting. Personally, as a Cold War fighter that keeps up with the times and technology, I can very much attest to the fact that that would not be a great strategy, and would do more harm, than good.
We should tell Iran that If we go to war with them it will be World War2 against Japan style not Iraq and Afghanistan style.
We should tell Iran that If we go to war with them it will be World War2 against Japan style not Iraq and Afghanistan style.
"... nice sounding lies"...
I think Newt's point hits the "truth" bullseye...
Newt at 1min. 40sec. - Iran and Israel, and the bomb -
"I think it's a good idea,
"if your serious about stopping them having nuclear weapons,
"I think replacing the regime
"before they get a nuclear weapon,
1 >> "without a war,
"beats replacing the regime
2 >> "with a war,
"which beats
3 >> allowing them to have a nuclear weapon. ... ."
In what sense are they "... much like Obama's?"
1, 2, 3... where is the lie, obfuscation, error?
Art
Interesting. Also interesting that while the world's oil supplies may be wiped out when all of this goes down, dear leader gave up any rights to Canada's oil. Hmmm.
Cindy, have you ever read Jerusalem Countdown by John Haggee? If not, you ought to check it out. It's a good one.
"... hear more of her"...
Thanks, MaxineCA, for the greeting.
Here's Caroline Glick in a debate with Gershon Baskin - it is a June 5, 2009 post on the same Secure Freedom Youtube channel - 22 minutes long -
>> http://youtu.be/uoRuelqQFbg
If you have only 8 minutes, minutes 6 to 8 show how informed, passionate and determined Caroline is for Israel to be thought of as strong, doing the right thing for Israel, and not weak willed and projecting a dhimmi posture as Gershon seems to positing
Even though it was in 2009, the issues are as current as this week.
Art
Contrary to popular thought, these people do not work alone. They have public meetings, attend one. Then, either gird your loins, or hide.
Right on Cindy, as usual. Now, if we could just get congress to recognize the border war, maybe we can stop the suitcase bombs, coming in. Isn't it weird, the difference between today, and RR's day? Ronnie would have already neutralized Iran's bomb making plants.
Mr Boulton, I am hoping you are dozing, and not really thinking clearly. Ob is sending Iran money,and weapons as fast as possible. Do you actually think China developed the A bomb all alone? We have always has such traitors in our government, they hide behind the constitution. This, folks, is what happens when you ignore your duties as a citizen. Enjoy! More to come.
Remember when Hillary Clinton said we, this administration, will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons? I guess she and the administration will considered liars.
I agree that the Saudi's are fearful of a nuclear attack from Iran. That said, I am not afraid. The Bible says Israel will be alone among the nations, but the Lord will intervene in a way which will show Himself to be faithful to His people, and show the world that He is God.
I am NOT looking forward to 2012
I am sincerely concerned at what damage O'Dopo has done to destabilize the mideast
I didn't think HE was this stupid - Very frustrating
A dark time...
Newt at 1min. 40sec. - Iran and Israel, and the bomb -
"I think it's a good idea,
"if your serious about stopping them having nuclear weapons,
"I think replacing the regime
"before they get a nuclear weapon,
"without a war,
"beats replacing the regime with a war,
"which beats allowing them to have a nuclear weapon. ... ."
Former US Ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, at 2min. 19sec. -
"... you need somebody whose prepared to use military force ... that isn't going to come from the Obama administration.
"So, the spotlight really is on Israel. ... ."
From Caroling Glick - The title of Caroline's talk at the Center for Security Policy is, "Iran & Israel, After the Bomb" -
>> part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=8-GFcFMS2c0
"The Center for Security Policy's Senior Middle East Fellow Caroline Glick recently spoke on the subject of Iran at Moses Montefiore Anshe Emunah Synagogue in Baltimore, MD.
Here is the entire 51 minute talk -
>> http://youtu.be/2VDNupft_oI
Art

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