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The Boy Scouts is not about sex.. if he don't tell anyone who's to know?..
If he tells people, he is preaching.. advocating.. being an example of.. something queer..
No chance of a Sodomy Merit Badge, so far...
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That's exactly my beef with homosexuality (no pun intended). The whole world has to be tolerant and embrace the rainbow - we have no choice to shun it. As they get their cancer deeper into Americana, then they'll eventually want restitution for all the persecution they've endured over the years. The blueprint is already there. Yes, maybe a stretch... the fagging of Amerca isn't enough is my point. And having a homosexual influence on young boys is sickening.
Doesn't the Boy Scout Oath say something about being "morally straight"? Wouldn't work for gays.
Raised by two lesbians, i wonder if he gay?, if so was he that way born or taught?
the answer should be a no brainer.
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"Teach them the way they should go" I read that some where.
seems the lesbians Taught him well.
Hurrah for the Boy Scouts organization for standing their ground!
I don't understand why the people who want to allow gay scouts don't just start their own organization. Then they can make the rules and the policy and open their membership to whoever they want. I guess that's just too easy?
I am so glad the Boy Scouts are sticking with their traditions and rules. If these folks care so much, they need to start their own organization.
Help me understand why they're talking about their sex lives in Boy Scout meetings?! Why do gay people think they need to tell everyone they're gay and then challenge everyone around them to act offended? This agenda seems ludicrous.
You might be jumping to conclusions here. There is no indication that they are discussing (or would discuss) their sex lives at Boy Scout meetings.
No adult leader, regardless of their sexual orientation, should be discussing their sex lives with the scouts in their troop.
Then how does one indicate that he is openly gay? Is he just propositioning boys while theyre at a meeting? Trying to hold their hand? Slip em a kiss? None of these things have any part in Boy Scouts! Being gay is about sexual preference and perversion. If they're not discussing it or acting on it, then are they "openly gay?"
I think you're missing the point actually. Why do we even need to know they are openly gay? Why do we even need to know what kind of sex life they practice? I've been to school functions with my son and very rarely do I see any couple sharing a kiss or even any type of hint as to their sexual preference. So why the need for an acknowledgement of being openly anything? If 2 women or 2 men accompany a child to an event, that doesn't automatically make them homosexuals, and why would we even need to know that they are?
I do believe that's the point Is_Sense_Common is trying to make. Why do they need to express publicly what their orientation is?
I don't think you are seeing my point.
There is nothing to indicate that these people have been discussing their sex lives at Boy Scout meetings. If they have been, then that is an issue that would need to be addressed with that individual.
I would say the same thing about any person who was discussing their sex lives with Boy Scouts.
Thank you. You just made my point for me. "...they have simply made their sexual orientation known publicly."
Why do they have the need to discuss their sex lives in Boy Scouts??? They don't.
Openly gay means that they have simply made their sexual orientation know publicly. It does not neccesarily mean that they are actively trying to proposition the scouts.
I am openly heterosexual. (I think that I can safely assume that you are as well.) I know that I certainly am not trying to proposition every member of the opposite sex I meet. I assume you do not do so either.
Just because a person is homosexual, it does not mean that person is some sort of animal that cannot control their own actions. They are still human beings, just like you or I.
Why? Recruiting.
The Boy Scouts of America is a private club. If you don't like their rules form your own club.
Ugh. I am sickened to realize that your "Recruiting" comment is probably spot-on.
Between the absolute onslaught of "metro-sexual" teenage boys and the emasculating and condescending attitude towards men/dads on TV and in the mall and all over the place, Lord help our young boys learn how to grow into MEN!
The left attacks...attacks...attacks, and never relents. When met with resistance they malign us as "extremists", bigots, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, intolerant, backward, ignorant, obstructionists. They then define "moderate" to mean that we must compromise our principles, morality, values, and beliefs by adopting theirs. In order to appear "moderate" and attempt to appease the left, many people on the right fall for this rouse each and every time. But in fact, they are the radicals, they are the "extremists", and their is nothing "moderate" about their agenda. Each time we compromise and appease them, we invite more attacks, not fewer.
Where is this kind of unrelenting zeal from the right for liberty, limited government, and the Constitution. We need to be on offense, not continually on defense. Many on the right are afraid of the media and pop culture. They are afraid of the left's name calling. If we oppose Obama, we are labeled racists. If we oppose "gay marriage" we are homophobes. You have heard all the slurs. The right needs to stop being afraid of the name calling and be just as relentless and zealous as the left, but in the cause of liberty.
You are so right, NoToTyrants! I am so over these sick a** people. This is deviant behavior and unhealthy for our society anyway you look at it. I am so over the name calling because the core of this is that they want to be more like heterosexuals. So can we call them heterophobic! I mean they want to attack any organization where children are vulnerable such as the boyscouts and the schools and they want to be more like heterosexuals in their efforts to marry. But the real fact is that they cannot reproduce so can we say they are heterophobic because they really want to do what heterosexuals and have the same rights as married couples? I think so.
Hopefully the Boy Scouts of America will stand their ground. I love supporting them, especially in light of the fact I will not support the Girl Scouts any longer, due to their relationship with planned parenthood.
That's how much I was paying attention to what was on the outside of the box! I was too busy devouring what was on the inside! :)
The only way to change this is to change our judges and the only way to change these judges is to elect people who understand the principles upon which our nation was founded.
Start your own scout like organization and leave the original alone. Just think you will be able to have all sorts of achievement badges just for your own special skill set. There could be the brown trout badge, the limp wrist badge, the very special talking with a lisp badge or how about the disrupting and annoying heterosexuals of society badge.
Hey, I agree b! Why don't they just start their own little scout organization and stop trying to force thier stupid perverse ideas and lifestyle on boys who want to do what young boys do. My child is my responsibility and I should decide whether to expose him to this lifestyle and not someone who want to use the innocense of children in during the critical development period for a lifestyle that is completely counter to my beliefs. We have allowed these liberals to infiltrate our schools and the result is Occupy wall street. People need to fight back on this indoctrination where ever and when ever possible. Homosexuals need to understand that no one cares about their little perverted and demeaning lifestyle. We just don't want to be exposed to it and we certainly don't want our children exposed to it. If a person is gay then they should have a gay boy scout support group if its so important to self esteem. When Black people were not allowed to join certain groups they just started their own so why can't homosexuals do the same since they are always comparing their struggles to that of Black Americans?
Governor Scott Walker was an Eagle Scout. That is enough to send the left into a tizzy.
If the scouts take anything away from the lessons Walker demonstrated they will have no problem.
because forcing your own agenda on other people requires that you invade their privacy...how could they impose their ideology on other people if they minded their own business?
I hope the Boy Scouts fight them tooth and nail on this. If I wasn't wanted somewhere I just wouldn't go there. These are the kind of gay people that bothers me.
I think it might be because the BSA are inclusive of all religions but consistent in their requirement that the scouts acknowledge God (or at least a higher power) even in the troops that are not sponsored by a church, so they have not been deemed to be discriminatory. Prayers, religious tenets are part of many of the programs and outings.
I don't know much about the Girl Scouts but if they are partnering with Planned Parenthood I have to believe that religion isn't a big part of their overall focus!!
we could ... but that would require a level of courage and assertiveness that most people in our society no longer have.
I am however intrigued somewhat as to how the boy scouts have held this stuff off for so long, while the girl scouts has long been infiltrated by left-wing moral relativists who have been preaching sexual perversion for years now.
I wonder what the reason is for the difference is?
Don't hold your breath, and don't despair, it's all part of what must be.
Ultimately we as society are to blame for all of this, for a myriad of reasons.
This is only one of many abominations we allow our children to be influenced by, we've abdicated our position of moral authority in our own society in so many ways, this one example is just the tip of the iceberg.
Isn't it curious how fags are always angling to work with young boys........curious isn't it? As Scout Leaders, schoolteachers, counselors, coaches, etc. Very curious.
All they need is a toe hold, and it's over. The Scouts are an organization that are sticking to their guns. Good for them. I worked in scouting for many years, you'll never meet a greater group of young men. I hope they fight it all the way. It's an institution worth fighting for.
All they need is a toe hold, and it's over. The Scouts are an organization that are sticking to their guns. Good for them. I worked in scouting for many years, you'll never meet a greater group of young men. I hope they fight it all the way. It's an institution worth fighting for.
So if the Supreme Court ruled against them in 2000, I really don't think any legal action is going to do them any good now. All legal briefs would refer to the Supreme Court ruling and it would be thrown out from the get go. Who goes over the head of the Supreme Court, anyway?
Well, other than Obama.
He was raised by 2 lesbian parents......... First, I wouldn't call them parents, they are no more than 2 lesbians.
I've always been a "live and let live person" as long as it doesn't effect others, but frankly over the last few years, I'm tired of their "alternative lifestyle" being shoved in my face, down our throats and infiltrating our public schools.
Why don't they start their own group, "Gays Boys of America" and leave the traditional boy scouts alone. Obama would preobably recommend Arne Duncan as the chairman. I'm sure that whole Hollywood LGBT crowd that had a fundraiser for Obama last week (Ellen and her gang) would be glad to fund their group(s). Bamster sure enjoyed himself at that one.
Disgusting what's happening with all of the attacks on all of our traditional institutions.
That's the whole problem, though, isn't it. They don't want to form a new 'Gay Scouts of America'. They want to take over the institution of Boy Scouts. Just like the way they want to take over the institution of marriage, even though they can have their own status.
Sounds an awfully lot like Islamists, who want to take over every country, every religion and every lifestyle and make it theirs, eradicating everything in its path.
Very observant. I've heard the homo activist movement compared to islamists in the past. They have many similar characteristics. The homo activist movement is an intolerant 'religion'.
Most gay people are like everyone else: they just don't want to join a organization that doesn't want them as members. Most people (white, black, gay, straight, etc) don't want to be hassled by this sort of nonsense. Who WANTS to force themselves into a group that rejects or hates them? Normal human being don't.
The real problem comes from the radical fringes of the gay and LIBERAL community that push this as an intentional attack on Christianity. These are the freaks that dance in leopard speedos during "gay pride" parades, while the homosexual next door to you is probably at home watching TV or putzing around on Facebook.
The radical gays are the same gay people that happily ally themselves with islam, knowing full well that islam hates homosexuality more than Christians. The harshest thing that 99% of Christians might do to a gay person is pray for their soul. Muslims actively kill gay people in islamic states. BUT...they're safe over here, and muslims hate Christianity...so they're natural allies in what is viewed as the bigger "threat" to liberal ideology.
this is soooooooooooo predictable. MSM will act like this is a new unforeseen spontaneous development in America's cultural "progress"
"Wahls decided to petition the Scout ban after an Ohio mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, was allegedly fired as a volunteer Cub Scout den leader in April because she was a lesbian. Wahls decided to petition the Scout ban after an Ohio mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, was allegedly fired as a volunteer Cub Scout den leader in April because she was a lesbian."
Um, I thought you couldn't have a woman, any woman straight or gay, as a cub scout den leader. I thought only dads were allowed to lead the scouts. That would be like having a man be a troop leader for the girl scouts, and I don't think a lot of parents would allow that from happening. Just shows that even though gays make roughly 2% of the population, they are going to make sure that they make life miserable for the other 98%. I beginning to wonder when the other 98% will start tuning these people out and just ignore them.
I am a recently "retired" Cub Scout den leader and I can tell you that there are plenty of women den leaders. In fact, the local Boy Scout troop has had a woman troop leader for many years. There is nothing wrong with this, and in fact, there are many things good about it. While it may be preferable to have male den and troop leaders, sometimes there are not enough fathers willing or able to "step-up" and take on the challenge, and believe me, it is a challenge. The sad truth is that any dad that is able and willing to rise to this challenge and dedicate the time and effort it takes to be a good leader of young men, will be rewarded 10 fold the effort they exert. I look back on my tenure as some of the most rewarding times of my life. I made great friends with other parents, and I hope I have helped young men understand the importance of being loyal, trustworthy and kind, values that are sorely lacking in many of our youth today.
I was a cub scout den leader myself for the very reason you cited - not enough dads who were able and willing. I would not have wanted to take it on in the Boy Scouts but it was a very satisfying endeavor in my son's early scouting experience. He went on to become an Eagle Scout and I look back on those years as some of the best, spent with the finest group of parents and most capable young men imaginable.
And no, I wouldn't have wanted openly gay leaders in either organization. With the rules the BSA has for two deep leadership and the scouts always having a buddy, the chances are very slim that something untoward would happen to one of them at a BSA event.
The packs I was apart of 928 and 982, cubscouts and boyscouts, it had no women involved as its a male bonding experience although some moms would tag along. I was always extremely happy when my dad did come because he worked night shift and I didnt see him alot.
The Boy Scouts of America responded on their website to recent articles by saying they have no plans of reversing the policy."
Thank God!
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