The Right Scoop
Personal responsibility is the issue and neither candidate is going to have the balls to say it outright. If your kid is an ignorant, disrespectful little shit, who's fault is that. Romney?
Obama?
Should the government come to your home to discipline your child? Will your child learn from a teacher they see for an hour a day, or mirror your actions? Who wins the election isn't the issue. I've met plenty of children of a single parent that are respectful and do very well in school. What you teach your child is the most important thing. Will they learn responsibility, compassion, hard work, and perseverance from you or will you teach your child to sit on their ass all day checking your Facebook and playing Angry Birds?
These are by no means, by the outer stretch, fueled by the most fertile imagination, ginned up by optimism, total denial of math, The Ones We've Been Waiting For.
well, then I guess both sides are "even-steven" now, considering how drastically misquoted of context Pres. Obama was when they GOP came up with the sound bite: "you didn't build that"
I've heard it in the full context. It doesn't improve. It still means the same thing it means as a soundbite. It's the classic Marxist ideology that the masses create all the wealth and the successful people steal it. The oppressed and the oppressors, center of his worldview. Except for his multimillionaire self, of course. And of course the millionaire and billionaire socialists he hangs out with.
What? Are you calling the President of the United States a liar? How can that be? Hasn't he fixed the economy, brought the diverse races and socio-economic classes together and lowered sea levels, just like he promised?
And, having taught for about 25 years (some part-time), I have to say that, given good teachers, the single most important thing is to have a GOOD administration, that focuses on discipline, order, and managing the physical environment, text availability, minimized bureaucratic BS, and keeping an eye on the people - making sure the slackers do their job, supporting those that DO their job, and making sure no "funny business" takes place.
Some numbers to think about...
DOEducation - 1998-99 Public School Enrollment 46.539 Million Students
DOEducation - 1998-99 Public School Spending $504.29 BILLION
DOEducation - 2009-10 Public School Enrollment 49.373 Million Students
DOEducation - 2009-10 Public School Spending $900.72 BILLION
Has the education of our children gotten any better? Do the children receive anything they didn't receive back in 1999? NO. Spending of Taxpayer dollars have increased by almost $400 BILLION whereas student enrollment has only increased by 3.2 Million. Where is the money going????
Aw, come on! Give obama a break. His cognition skills have been totally shot by all those drugs he used!
he's right. getting the best teachers does matter. which is why romney's idea that reducing the cost of "government workers", as he calls them, is so detrimental.
that's not a lie. romney says class sizes don't matter. he has reasons to believe that which are quite solid due to international studies but his belief is still "class sizes don't matter".
Hearing problems?? Romney said, "yes, classroom size matters if you are outside the norms"! He gave an example of 5 students, which he acknowledged would be a great advantage to 50 students, which he said "is impossible size". His main point, for those without basic cognition skills was that class size when within "normal range" (which all public schools have to be) is NOT the deciding factor on EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS.
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obama is constantly trying to confuse the less than intelligent among us. Unfortunately, it works more often than it should.
Class size is only one factor in student performance, and I've noted this over the years with my children. One of the big factors was whether the teacher could keep the student engaged. If the student is disinterested or bored, the student had a tough time even doing the homework. It also does not help if the teacher brings politics into the classroom (you must vote for Prop XYZ so we get more money or forget this class...), or the teacher calls the student names and belittles him (you play more than one sport? How dare you? You must not be interested in academics! In my class, you can't cheat like you can on a football field!) I think I've seen it all. My younger son had his best year last year, mainly because he liked the classes and the teachers were keeping him engaged. Yes, we help them as parents, but we're not in that classroom. We count on teachers to engage students.
I think we all need to be a little more understanding of poor, Mr. Obama, bless his shriveled heart.
Of course he's sensitive to "size" issues. And not for what most of you are thinking now, either.
See, whenever he's in a classroom, that massive ego of his instantly makes the place feel small and overcrowded.
Give me a great teacher with no building, out in the weather and I'll show you a better student than one who has a lazy teacher with the best school building, all the arts and crafts you can think of, and all the creature comforts money can buy. In fact, I believe the best teacher spoke out on the hilltops, 2,000 years ago and did pretty well.
On a side note, though, are they sitting in those 'little' chairs my son's kindergarten teacher used to make us sit in when we went to visit the school? Just wondering.
Nukeman60. I feel as though we may be kindred spirits. My wife and I have three adult daughters and four grandchildren. Long story short, my middle daughter called to tell to us about Kyle's first day of school and she mentioned she had to sit in a tiny chair to visit with teacher, etc. Anyway, I had just taken a big old drink of tea when I read your post and it came out my nose and all over my keyboard - what a mess, but thanks.
Sorry about the keyboard. It becomes an occupational hazard when reading these posts on TRS. :)
Great teacher and parental involvement in their child's education ... it just crazy enough it might work. Another nutty idea is for the state to stop trying to raise the kids and just teach the kids what they actually need to know ... you know more crazy stuff like reading, writing, spelling and untainted American history - I know it's a radical idea too but what say we try it?
abolishing the dept of education imo be helpful in the long run. seems before 79 we had better education out there, true more parent involvement, but also less butting in from the feds. programs like race to the top, no child left behind, waste of money. take the money from dept of ed, build tech.voc schools, for 10-12 graders. are children need better educations, not all kids are college bound. they need to learn a trade, or if they are in a manufacturing state, how to operate certain equiptment.
as for barry, no leader. no ideas. hurry up nov 6th
Private schools often have much larger class sizes and better results. Why? Involved parents, better teachers not consumed with union dictates and expectations easily remedied when not met This election is about the economy and our vote on Obamacare.
U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan: "But the best thing you can do is get children in front of an extraordinary teacher. So other countries have higher class sizes but extraordinary talent in those rooms."
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/gradebook/content/duncan-better-teachers-trump-smaller-class-sizes
I had a sil who homeschooled her 3 kids, did very well, though at high school they all wanted to go to a regular high school which they did. They are bright, well mannered kids today.
Is Barack Obama a Traitor to America? NO! He has worked hard to better America. eg. no more recession, constant gdp increases, market growth, etc. That is NOT being against America!
Is Barack Obama a Marxist? NO! There is no evidence any of his policies are similar to or the same as anything in Marx’s communist manifesto.
Is Barack Obama a Communist? NO. See the aforementioned.
Is Barack Obama a Socialist? NO! There is no evidence any of his policies are based upon socialism.
Is Barack Obama a fraud? Of all the 100+ Birther lawsuits that have been brought no one has proven Obama committed fraud.
Is Barack Obama a homosexual? NO! Obama is married to a woman. That’s not homosexuality!!
Does Barack Obama hate America? NO! If anyone hates America its Romney. He stashes his money in Foreign accounts instead of investing it back in America. Romney also put 100s of 1000s out of work while at Bain.
that is demonstrably not true! Without a nano-second of reflection I can come up with some really whoppers from Bush II that Obama cannot touch - calling Obama the biggest liar in the history of presidency simply shows your ignorance for history or an appalling disregard for the facts!
Thanks, Barry. You can go back to bed now. You don't have a daily briefing until 11:00 am.
And leave the dog alone. You already had supper.
Odd that a non marxist would say this:, from Dreams FROM My Father
"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."
His mentor Frank Marshall Davis was a card carrying communist...you need to dig your head out of the sand. Progressive is code for socialism and the difference between communisim and socialism is the spelling.
You are a moron - pointless to debate a proven idiot. Crawl back under your rock. You are impervious to argument and reason.
Obama did a world apology tour and bowed to foreign leaders-traitor. He also jumped off his political career in the home of a terrorist-Bill Ayers
Obama attacks the rich and says to Joe the Plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth-Marxism.
Obama tells businesses that they didn't build that themselves- communist, community talk 101.
Obama lied to his base when he said he was going to clean up wall street- not one wall street conviction by HIS DOJ. Also, more money has been given to him by Wall Street than any other president in American history.
Obama hasn't released his college transcripts.
Obama did a shady land deal with Tony Rezco the felon.
Obama is an empty suit.
What a dolt. I remember when every politician from the dog catcher to the governor always added "..and better pay for school teachers and smaller class sizes..." Those were the days before public school teachers had discerditted themselves with failure to help students, active participation in brainwashing children and communist organizing with the Unions and having sex with students.
Even in 2010 that phony bleached republican who ran again Gerry Brown in California had radio commercials promising that she would make school teachers' jobs better.
This Obamaerrhoid simply has a defective brain. Years and years of marijuana-- "Maui Wowie, Hawaiian Gold" followed up by more years of cocaine sucking rendered the young bastard's brain defective.
"Y-Y-You din't build that! Somebody else....er uh./.made...that happen." "57 states and I have visited them all." "O-I-H-O!" "Resist...we...much." Defective due to drugs? Nurture? or Nature? You decide. Stupid is as stupid does.
The might of this nation, our wealth, our freedom and our future--in the hands of a mental defective. He can talk, we can walk he can locate a sex partner in Chicago but his thinking is muddled and circular. This jerk would bore Lenin to death.
Can there be any more of a contrast between these two candidates? One expresses his ideas in clear manner that everyone can understand, is focused on the most efficient way to reach the best end result and the other who misleads us and talks down to the American people as if we're too stupid to check him on his comments.
I watched a show the other day where a 20 year old female didn't know who invented the telephone or who invented the light bulb. Just goes to show you that it's not class size, it's that we have strayed from teaching the basics. It's pretty sad when a young person comes out of school not knowing history, proper english, etc....all the things that made this country great...NO...OUR schools are to concerned with being politically correct, teaching anything BUT the english language, and there is NO discipline. Young people today are too wrapped up in themselves and what Mommy and Daddy "owe" them, that there is no sense of responsibility to learn. And I really think our teachers have given up (to a certain degree) because they have been scolded for using ANY form of discipline, and by removing THAT, the kids no longer HAVE to respect them...for there are no consequences. That's why we see all the increase in entitlements...it is no longer taught that if you work hard, study hard, and do the right thing, then good things will happen to you...NOW it's "what can my parents, the government, or anyone else GIVE me?" SAD.....VERY SAD
DavidKramer, I'm not sure which school your kids go to, but here in our small town, classes are bigger than ever; 30 or more per teacher. I am a staunch conservative, but I am less than pleased with the way public schools have been nickled and dimed to death. Cutting all the mandates for special education would be a better place to start.
Look up the actual numbers for education before you post nextime. K?
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DOEducation - 1998-99 Public School Enrollment 46.539 Million Students
DOEducation - 1998-99 Public School Spending $504.29 BILLION
DOEducation - 2009-10 Public School Enrollment 49.373 Million Students
DOEducation - 2009-10 Public School Spending $900.72 BILLION
Has the education of our children gotten any better? Do the children receive anything they didn't receive back in 1999? NO. Spending of Taxpayer dollars have increased by almost $400 BILLION whereas student enrollment has only increased by 3.2 Million. Where is the money going????
You are joking of course, right? This is a joke. It has to be. Nickle and diming? Here in California the teachers unions and unions in general have pretty much bankrupted our state with their disgusting pensions and massive inflation in salaries and benefits. Lousy teachers are allowed to remain in place thanks to unions and the kids suffer.
Words fail me.......
I attended parochial school in the 60's. The average class size was between 50-60 children with one teacher. Disciplinary problems were rare. Our parents would not accept disruptive behavior from their children. If you were punished in school for bad behavior you were equally punished at home. The parents were involved with their children's education, checking homework, helping with studying, appropriate bed times, good breakfast & backing up the teacher. Not so anymore. It seems today's parents challenge teacher authority in the classroom, their children are never in the wrong, they demand good grades even if their child did not earn them, few parents attend parent-teacher conferences any more. Also many inept teachers are on the payroll because of tenure.
DavidKramer, I'm not sure which school your kids go to, but here in our small town, classes are bigger than ever; 30 or more per teacher. I am a staunch conservative, but I am less than pleased with the way public schools have been nickled and dimed to death. Cutting all the mandates for special education would be a better place to start.
That's just it. Until people wake up and realize it's not the teachers or the schools that are the problem, we are going to continue to dumb down society. Not to say there aren't problems in our schools, but kids don't try to learn. No teacher can teach a kid that has no discipline at home, runs around doing anything he wants....well, just think of the movie "The Principal" (which is a true story).
It starts at home and how kids are raised. That's where the biggest problem is.
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