- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
There is no “proof” and an affair..but it turns out that he was giving her money for that time. That is a bit suspicious. There is a Conservative Talk show host over in Los Angeles who said yesterday, “If he was giving money and not getting sex, then he’s too stupid to be president.”
- Linky1
Conservative or not, that talk show host is a horse’s a$$.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Or it could mean he just doesn’t drink the cool-aid.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Poncy/1339730989 Jeremy Poncy
I feel bad for you if you don’t believe that people help people without expecting something especially sex in return. You sound like a very shallow person who is trying to project his own character onto others in order to understand a situation that is clearly out of your grasp, namely charity. I hope you don’t honestly believe that helping somebody without expecting sex in return is “stupid.”
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
While making sure his wife didn’t know about it….yes, I do think that is a sign of an affair.
- Christopher McCray
Anything can be a sign of an affair, but in this case the only thing Herman is guilty of is doing the right thing in the wrong way.
- Anonymous
He claims that he is and has helped many people. Do you doubt that someone has put this woman and the rest up to it? They appear now and there is yet to be any evidence of illicit behavior?
Hard to imagine that someone comes up to you, knowing your financially strapped and overs you the way out if you’ll only exaggerate and fling crap on Cain? You think these women all with financial trouble couldn’t be bought?
Cain has been in the work place for many years. It’s not surprising that if you go through enough people you’ll find some you can buy.
- Anonymous
Cain had stage 5 colon cancer 5 years ago. Why don’t some of you disbelievers look up the effects of radiation treatment on the human body before coming to judgment. That’s not to say that something couldn’t have happened prior to 5 years ago, but after is unlikely.
- Anonymous
That should about do it. Congratulations to the liberal media for poisoning the American people. For those that vote liberal god bless ya. I do not condone sending text messages to another woman if your are married without telling her but there has been ZERO evidence of any impropriety by Cain. Yet he will probably bow out. I pray for those that have the fangs of liberalism stuck in you. Instead of finding out the facts you believe that he is guilty before finding out the facts.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
It deeply saddens me when we convict people before we even have a victim’s name! Embarassing…how does one make a decent attempt at refuting these claims if you can’t even provide an alibi (since you don’t know WHEN this was supposed to have happened, nor to who). And yet, people are saying he’s guilty! And unfortunately, the EXACT SAME THING would happen to any of the men on this website (myself included) if an anonymous woman claimed the same thing about us. How sad.
- Anonymous
First off you may never read this so…
I pray for you that have the fangs of so-called “conservatism” stuck in you.
Please tell me what “liberal media” means.
The evidence of impropriety by Cain is the fact that his wife, according to him, knew nothing of this woman. If she were just a friend of his and he was just helping financially, he should have been able to share that with his wife. Who controls the finances in their marriage? Is it not a joint eff
Now the fact that he was able to help “this disturbed woman” financially without the knowledge of his wife says a lot. Maybe not to you, but to most thinking people it does.
The liberal media does not exist. “Liberal Media” is just another buzz word “rich white politicians” use to convince those with hatred already in their hearts that people who do not look like them are trying to take over.
Truth of the matter is…the “Politicians” have already taken over. Their success can be measured in the divisiveness the country faces.
- Anonymous
BullCrap…
Tell me, what is the liberal media?
I don’t know if Cain is guilty or not, but to blame the media is lame and right out of something you heard on AM radio.
The impropriety by Cain is the fact that according to him he was financially helping a “disturbed” woman his wife knew nothing about.
Tell me, how did Cain find out about this woman’s financial troubles?
If his wife of 43 years knew nothing of his philanthropic efforts towards this woman who was just a friend, then…
Why did his wife not know of this “just a friend” woman?
How was he able to provide financial support to this woman without raising questions on the withdrawal of his and his wife’s account?
Either they have separate bank accounts(plausible) or his marriage is a marriage in name only. If you think about it, his wife only starting appearing with him after an article ran about her absence on his political trail.
Don’t expect you to answer…but you just keep that hatred of all that you believe is Obama in your heart and we will see where it gets you.
- Anonymous
Sorry Johnos2112, one more thing. Just a pet peeve of mine…
You posted…
“I do not condone sending text messages to another woman if your are married”
Your sentence should have read…
I do not condone sending text messages to another woman if you are (or you’re) married.
Your = possession (Is this your ball? I am going to tell your Mom?)
You are = You’re = State of being ( You’re tall, you’re lying)In all honesty, you may have meant to leave off the “r” in your because you typed “your are married”.
Have a good holiday season.
- Anonymous
Helping another woman…outside his marriage…finacially!!!! And his wife didn’t know about it.??? Odd. Maybe no affair but why not get this stuff out when the campaign was launched. Truely odd.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396855720 Brian Jones
It does sound bad…but still…I’m not ready to make the connection yet. I’ve had NO reason to believe his character is challenged in that kind of way.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez
how many others doesn’t his wife know about?
- Anonymous
He disclosed that information initially. That isn’t new information.
The campaign seems to be ramping up rather than down.
They are probably using the “decision” to help change the news cycle. At first a decision was coming in days, now it is weeks….smart….very smart…
- Linky1
“Cain said that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, White was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.”
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”
Now is the time for Mr. Cain to get those text messages and get them out in circulation.
“Cain said the two “struck up a friendship” many years ago when she attended a conference in Louisville, Ky., where he was the keynote speaker.
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation.
“But I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money,” Cain said. “I was helping her with month-to-month bills and expenses and somebody _ this is speculation only _ offered her a lot of money.
The list of suspects in very long but I would contend that it goes right back to He-Who-Will-Not-Be-re-elected.
“And one of my objectives is to clear my name and my reputation,” Cain said. ”
Hope he sues the pants off of these women………
- Anonymous
Poor choice of words at the end there for you.
- http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon
I sincerely hope Herman can mend fences and keep his family together.
But it’s past time for him to get out of the race.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Yeah, so true. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at first. (I did not find Sharon Bialick credible, for example). But he needs to drop out.
- Anonymous
Youi’re worthless and weak, you need to get a functioning brain, the whole thing has been orchestrated byh the left, Obama’s camp to be exact. All of his political oponents before 08 have had to bail out because of heresay inuendos. Either you’re ignorant of these fact or you’re a plant. You definitely have a limited vision and a short memory of how and to what extent the progressive left gets things done.
- Anonymous
It is pretty much the O’s M.O.
Take out the opposition at all cost.. Look at his history in Chi Town…
- Anonymous
I would tend to agree with you Boris, but I can’t on this one. The Obama hit team would be absolutely stupid to use this information now vs. later. If you have this info, you can sit on it until he takes the Primary and then blast him. No need to spend your capital now.
For the record, I don’t have an opinion on whether he did it or not. However, I do have an opinion on his missteps. I think he is a good man….just don’t think he is the best candidate at this point.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Right. If the Democrats were responsible for this story, then they would have kept it to themselves, prayed that Cain got the nomination, and then release it as an early “October surprise” a month (maybe two) before the election. It would give Obama an easier election win.
- Anonymous
The charges against Cain aside… (put that on the shelf for now)….
It is imperative that the Dems destroy Cain… and probably sooner than later. I’m just thinking out loud here because I am presently reading Stanly Kurtz book “Radical in Chief”. It’s actually a good time to read the book at this very moment because the radical extremists and socialists, of whom Obama is a part, had as their tactic to utilize and manipulate Black Americans as a key component in their “culture war”quiver for a socialist takeover.
These culture destroyers have to ensure is that there are no credible Black conservatives who could exert influence on Blacks in America. And if any did come up, particularly in a Presidential race, the aim was to destroy them using an Alynsky tactic to make them look foolish and ridiculous or immoral. This is their winning strategy. The very idea of Fox-Piven and all the other left-wing whites, including black extremists like Cornel West from the Socialist Scholars Conferences of the 1980′s, utilizing the despicable tactic of smearing a Black American man with the truly racist smear of “lusty uncontrollable black man”, is just too ironic.
This smear had to be put in place sooner rather than later, because had Cain’s numbers continued to rise, and his policy stands improved, and his 999 plan gained further traction and cache with Americans, and particularly with Black Americans, then the smear campaign could have really backfired… especially if it were proven to be false.
Because up till now… victim number one is viewed as sad and unstable, two and three are nameless… victim four (Bailek with Allred in tow) is a gold digger… only “victim” five (white) is looking credible.
No! The time for the Dem destroy machine to gas up is now.
- Anonymous
I like your point around black conservatives. That isn’t an angle I was considering. It makes sense.
I think I underestimate how much liberals care about race. I know Cain is black. It just isn’t a factor for me…and I presume others on this blog. - Anonymous
Obama and the Dems are more afraid of Cain than any of the others. They are even more afraid of Cain than Newt. That’s why they have to strike now and early with the smears and accusations.
Newt would intellectually destroy Zero in a debate… not only destroy him, but blood would be spattered everywhere… on the carpets, on the chairs, on the floor, on the curtains… and Barry would be running out of the place, chairs flying in his wake, screaming and crying like a little girl. If Newt were to win the nomination… to see this spectacle alone would be my chiefest joy.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Didn’t you get the memo: It was Perry who leaked the story. Cain said so. >>
- Anonymous
No need to attack Kris. I may personally disagree with him, but that is not the way to win friends and allies.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
It’s alright. I get attacked from people on both sides..People on the right calling me a leftist, and people on the left calling me a “tea-bagger.” I’m used to it.
- Anonymous
I read all your posts. You are measured and rational and simply express doubt with a wait-and-see posture. A mature way to offer your thoughts, in spite of the juvenile retorts that fly around here. I guess that means I’m a Leftist Tea-bagger too.
- Anonymous
Your defeatist attitude illustrates you are not among likeminded conservatives. Why should anyone quit? Elections mean voters decide. If people don’t want Cain to be the Republican nominee, they can vote for someone else. According to the Constitution, voters still determine their representatives. It is not based on the political climate.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
My defeatist attitude is the result of cold hard reality. I was so optimistic that McCain would not get the nomination, then he got it. Then I was so optimistic that Obama would lose, and he won.
- Anonymous
Your misery may have its origins however we still live in a republic. It is up to the people of the US to determine who they want to be the nominee. Suggesting that candidates should just quit because you’re jaded doesn’t mean that everyone else should concede. This isn’t Iran or Russia. This is still a republic. Every candidate has the right to stick it out and let voters determine the outcome.
- Anonymous
I can not believe you people. All the comments on this topic must have been posted by men. Come on, men!
A man doesn’t pay another woman’s bills without his wife knowing about it unless he is screwing her. I am sorry for the language but get real.
Ginger was dessert.
- Anonymous
so all woman that get help are whores.
got it. - Anonymous
If the man’s wife doesn’t know about it, yes.
- Anonymous
I have snowblowed and gotten next door neighbors unstuck many times w/o telling wife.
saved them probably 1500$$ or more over last 4 years.
I will let her know she is a whore. - http://twitter.com/MontyPrime Reilly Weakley
You’re both dumbasses. No, a woman is not a “whore” just because a guy helps her out without telling his wife. That’s just stupid and misogynistic. But what Cain did for 13 years goes way behind doing a bit of yard work. Also, what Cain said implies that he actively kepts his wife from finding out. If your wife asked if you helped out your neighbor, would you deny it?
- Anonymous
Cain is a fairly wealthy dude who has paid off his home, cars, etc.
A few hundred dollars here and there probably isn’t an issue for Cain’s wife. They probably donate that much each week at church.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
It’s not that she was getting help. It’s that his wife didn’t know about it. Why did he keep it from her?
- Anonymous
ever been involved with any pastoral counseling?
there probably MANY people he can’t talk to his wife about.
if used to operating under those procedures this isn’t a stretch.I am not saying thats the reason, just know how the pastoral counseling works…..from the patient side LOL
- Anonymous
I’ve helped out old girlfriends in need without an expectation of sex. Just knowing that they could be in better shape is justification. You are demented, Jean_A.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Did you keep it a secret from your wife?
- Anonymous
It wasn’t any of her business.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Lol, you have got to be kidding me! It is her business! I heard some women who commented on this say “If my man gave money to another woman and made sure I didn’t know, and if I found out, there would be hell to pay.”
- Anonymous
When you have a few million in the bank and no debt, helping somebody out, when that is something you often do, isn’t an issue big enough to bring up with the wife.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Helping someone by itself is a non-issue, but why did he have to keep it a secret?
- Anonymous
How do you know he kept it a secret?
Not telling somebody something is not the definition of a secret. Given how much money Cain has earned in his life, I doubt his wife cares much about such things. I’m sure she knows a lot about things Cain has done, but when somebody is as charitable as Cain is, the law of averages indicates that she isn’t going to know everything.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
The fact he didn’t tell his wife during the 13 years itself is an indication. It’s not what I would do if I was not keeping it a secret. — If I was not hiding it, I would actually WANT my partner to know so she wouldn’t get the wrong idea if she found out by herself.
- Anonymous
It was not an ongoing 13 year thing. I don’t know where you get that from. They have been friends for about 13 years.
So a cancer riddled Cain was writing her checks on his death bed?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Did I use the word “Ongoing?”
- Anonymous
You have been implying that, yes.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
If you thought so, that’s not what I meant.
- http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon
When she hears the details on CNN… would it be then?
- Anonymous
This was not an old girlfriend. This was someone he met at one of his speaking engagements.
As I recall another woman came forward and said Cain wanted to have dinner with a woman that had asked him a question at one of his speaking engagements. I guess Ginger took him up on that dinner and some.
- Anonymous
Pick pick pick, makes little diference. I can see you don’t accept any help at all ever because that would obviously in your feeble mind make you obligated to provide a sexual favor and well, that makes you a whore, whore, so stick where the sun don’t shine!
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I agree. There are very few reasons a man would pay a woman’s bills.
1. The woman is his daughter, and she still hasn’t moved out.
2. The woman is his wife.
3. She is his mistress. - Anonymous
In this case you can cross out 1 and 2.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
To quote Bill Carrol on KFI AM 640 (in Los Angeles), “If this man is giving money and getting no sex, then he is too stupid to be president.” — Personally, I don’t think he is stupid. So that tell you what I think happened.
- Anonymous
4. The woman is a skank-tress
- Anonymous
Not even Ginger White has alluded to that. And she was there.
- Anonymous
He is a Baptist minister. Some do not flaunt their charity.
- deo heerai
13 years… 13 YEARS.. and no proof, I call BS on all this
- Anonymous
So he was giving his hard earned money to these skanks and was not even getting a quickie in return ?
What a maroon ! Does he even know how that game is supposed to be played ? - Anonymous
lol
- Anonymous
and as an associate pastor he was probably called upon to counsel others w/o being able to tell others who they were.
hey lets spread their names now.
as a society we are now so jaded we cannot believe someone is generous.
thats one of the saddest things. - Anonymous
Francis Rice
Chairperson
http://www.NBRA.com
http://www.nbra.info/When the Left wing leaning media realized their attempts to derail Cain’s campaign with false charges of sexual harassment were not working, they were quick to give airtime to a clearly troubled woman, Ginger White, who presented zero evidence to support her allegations of an affair with Cain.
MS. WHITE’S HISTORY:
An unemployed single mother, Ms. White filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001, a cased that was settled.On Ms. White’s record is the bankruptcy she filed in Kentucky almost 23 years ago, as well as several eviction notices over a six-year period in the Atlanta area, demonstrations that she has massive financial difficulties.
Even more damning is the fact that Ms. White’s former business partner once sought a “stalking temporary protective order” against her for “repeated e-mails/texts threatening lawsuit and defamation of character.” After that case was dismissed, a libel lawsuit was filed against Ms. White where a judge entered an order against Ms. White.
- Anonymous
What is clear is the MSM and liberals are HELL BENT on Destroying this man.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
She is obviously getting more money from somebody else than she got from Cain
I am sure Cain will not send anymore
He’s a jerk and she is a w___e.
And a nutty one at that.
Sounds like a Judas to me –
She looks like she is on the edge –
When she sobers up, who knows what she’ll do?
- Anonymous
You know what……………..even if they didn’t do the deed………….he was still unfaithful. I’m no saint,. believe me, but even an emotional relationship with someone other than your spouse constitutes an affair (of the heart). It’s a pity if he drops out because of this, but there’s no way out at this point.
His wife is pretty pissed.
- Anonymous
An affair of the heart, really? You must be kidding or one vindictive bitch to assume anybody that offers help to another human being is cheating on YOU.
Sad state we livee in when society demands that you turn the other cheek. My wife knows I’m a sucker for hard luck cases and I can least afford to give aid to most but that’s my character flaw. - http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Are you a values voter? Then let me quote Jesus:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” (Matthew 5:27-28)
Jesus does not seem to disagree with DebbyX.
- mike morrison
If that’s the standard, then you can assume EVERY married man has cheated on his wife.
Are we going to punish the country with 4 more years of Obama because our candidate doesn’t measure up to Jesus? Let me remind you all of something…Cain MIGHT have cheated, but Gingrich DID cheat. Twice. If we’re going to start quoting scripture then Romney’s faith needs to be questioned, as well. If we’re going to be disappointed when a man cheats on his wife, then why not against HIS CITIZENS as Perry has done several times in Texas? Ron Paul seems to be the only one in the race that doesn’t have moral failures…too bad he has an anti-Jewish bias that goes against the Bible’s edict to “bless Israel and you’ll be blessed, curse Israel and you’ll be cursed”. Santorum supported the back stabber, Arlen Spector vs Pat Toomey. Bachmann wants to keep the money changers at the IRS in power.
So tell me, which of the 10 commandments have one of our candidates NOT broken???
We elect a man because of his ideas, not because of his morals…otherwise, we should just elect the most pious man we can find…maybe Billy Graham.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Don’t get me wrong. I would vote for anyone but Obama…..unless it’s Michelle Bachmann. –Besides, I’m not a values voter.
Ron Paul is not an anti-semite. He just wants us to stop violating Israel’s sovereignty. Israel is a big boy now; it can take care of itself.
- Anonymous
Great post….puts things in context.
- http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada
who said he looked at her lustfully? Jesus also says, Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
It’s sad that our society is so perverted and cynical as to not believe someone can give out of concern and friendship without making something sexual about it.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Hard not to be cynical when we have a bunch of failures wanting to run the country.
- Anonymous
Herman Cain is no definition of a failure. All of your posts are less credible because you are a Ron Paul fan. Get this strait- Herman Cain is the closet in beliefs to Ron Paul w/out being Ron Paul. You should be supporting him or atleast view him as your second choice.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
So liking Ron Paul makes a person “less credible?” That’s plain stupid to say.
Ron Paul isn’t even my first choice purely because he cannot win the nomination. Romney is my choice…not that I like him, but because he can bear Obama.
- Anonymous
I really don’t think it’s necessary to call DebbieX names like that. It’s entirely possible to disagree politely, so why lower yourself?
- Anonymous
What name did i call her?
- Anonymous
Wow cowboy, who you callin’ a vindictive bitch, look whose “assuming” now! I’m all for helping out my fellow man. The point IS: HE DIDN’T TELL HIS WIFE! In my estimation, that means that in his heart, he knew it was not the right thing to do, or why not tell her? Huh, big boy? Only Herman knows what was in his heart. So back off!!
- Anonymous
This does it for me. There is no way that I would have a secret relationship with another woman who I gave money to each month without telling my wife. I’m sorry, but I can no longer support Herman Cain.
- http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon
Me too….
- Anonymous
Where did the “each month” come from? I read nothing like that.
Did he do something wrong? I don’t know because I can’t see inside his heart. But I still believe he is an honorable man. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong later. But I want it to be PROOF, not some unsubstantiated claim from an ungrateful wench that he thought was a friend. When are we going to stop letting the MSM ruin people this way without proof, simply because they are conservatives, yet they defend people like Clinton and Kennedy?
If those text messages were proof of an affair, why didn’t she show what was in them? Numbers don’t mean much. And why did she feel the need to suddenly get this off her chest? None of her explanations make any sense.
He wife didn’t know they were friends. Doesn’t make him guilty in my eyes either. My husband didn’t know all of my friends. And some of them were males that I met at work. My husband trusted me enough not to feel he had to control my life or my friends.
Anyone can frame facts to make them look bad. Why don’t we see some proof of guilt before convicting the man.
CAIN 2012
- Anonymous
The post above says that he paid, “month-to-month bills and expenses” .
Look, I am not saying he had an affair. Actually I don’t belive he did have an affair with Ms White. What bothers me is he did not tell his wife, which means it was secretive and that alone shows a lack of character.
- Anonymous
So you don’t think Cain had an affair, but think it shows lack of character to hide that he gave her money from his wife.
Is that character worse than Newt’s adultery, his Progressive policies, Romney’s progressive policies and flip flopping, or Perry telling us we don’t have a heart for not supporting in state tuition for illegals??
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
It may not be worse….but it is “fresher.” It’s not old news like the rest.
- Anonymous
I can only speak for myself, but for a man to financially support another woman (who is not his daughter or an ex-wife that he is obligated to support) and NOT discuss it with his wife *first* tells me that there is something wrong with the marital relationship. There is something lacking in the trust between the married couple.
If this was all above board and innocent, why not discuss it with his spouse? If his wife had been informed and had objections, why couldn’t some other arrangement have been worked out – for instance some kind of help from the church or a charity? Did this woman not qualify for some kind of public assistance? Didn’t she try? Surely Cain has wealthy friends or business associates that could have helped in assisting her as well.
- http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada
C_Hippie, I can understand how you feel about it- but we still don’t know if he gave her a set amount for every month for how long. He could have given her a couple of months worth here and there, but not all the time for 13 years.
He may be one of those rare kinds who doesn’t think about what he’s doing, meaning, he sees it simply is helping out someone who was in need, and not thinking of consequences. I’ve helped folks out, and not gone home and immediately told my husband about it. Not that I did it continuously for years, but still. Maybe he never thought he NEEDED to tell her because he never gave it much thought.
I don’t know. I don’t believe anything went on except he met her, most likely at numerous places where he gave talks and presentations, and during those times she probably gave him sob stories about how she couldn’t find ways to make ends meet. He was probably also trying to counsel her as well as giving her money to help her. - Anonymous
I’m with you here. So many of the defenders are working on the premis of conjecture rtegarding Cain’s “innocent” actions. As I expressed above, it is simply an odd story with inadequete explanation. The jury is out.
- Anonymous
Should he tell his wife every time he orders food for dinner? Everytime he gets his car washed? Everytime he buys gas?
He wasn’t even paying this woman that much. It’s not a big deal.
I just spent $89 on Christmas gifts for the toy drive at my church. If it’s my money, should I tell my husband that too or am I cheating?
- poljunkie
Im with you C_H, we’ve been married 27 years and if my hubby did that, it would be a game changer!
PS I commented re New Zealand on the other thread to you!
- Anonymous
LOL! Thanks

- Anonymous
I’ve only been married to my lovely wife for almost 13 years and I keep nothing from her. I don”t think it’s healthy for the relationship. I made a decision when we were newlyweds that I would never hide anything from her, I am an open book.
- Anonymous
Once you make a certain amount of money…it means a lot less to you and isn’t a normal topic of discussion.
Cain is a 1% (LOL…). The money means nothing to him…don’t see why it would to his wife.
- Anonymous
Even if Cain is guilty, is this worse than Newt or Romney’s Progressive policies?
- Anonymous
That is the biggest point, NH.
Even if everything is true…everything. It means that Cain on several occassions during his life may have said something inappropriate and may have cheated on his wife.
Hmmm….I can live with that…particularly when I compare his resume to that of Newt (whose personal baggage is all true and terrible) and Romney who are big government politicians.
- Anonymous
This is not new information.
Also, even if Cain cheated on his wife, so what?
Would you rather a big government RINO who cheated on his wife or a Conservative who cheated on his wife?
What would Benjamin Franklin say

- Anonymous
Obviously I am not a Mr. Cain supporter but the truth and facts are important to me. It is easy to see a pattern of exploitation being conducted by these women but it is pretty hard to see a pattern of immoral improprieties by Mr. Cain. I am content to let the facts come out and even then if he is guilty, but by the grace of God go I. He isn’t running for Chaplain of the U.S.
- Anonymous
Well I came across this info on Cain’s latest accuser..
http://taxedenoughalready.blogspot.com/2011/12/end-of-ginger-white-media-circus.html
Is it true? I don’t know that answer.
- mike morrison
wow…is this true or just opposition hit piece to defend Herman?
- Anonymous
That is true, but I would like another outlet to verify the lesbian relationship because that is not directly quoted.
Doesn’t matter to me if he did cheat…but that is an interesting detail.
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
By his own admission Hermann Cain said he handled the first bimbo erruption badly. Now with this next round of slander, Hermann Cain appears to also be handling this situation just as bad. Notice a pattern of bad decisions???
It has become painfully obvious that he is not handling this situation very well. How can one expect Hermann Cain, as President, to handle a true crisis of national implications when it truely matters and lives are at stake? When he continues to botch this situation.
To me it is clear. Hermann Cain is not prepared to be President. He should have known this was coming since he knows all these women and he should have vetted himself of all issues from his past. Including going over all his records and issues thoughout his life that are now coming back to haunt him.
Again, I really like Hermann Cain, his 9-9-9 plan is a bold and fresh idea that by itself makes him worthy of consideration. He comes across as a straight shooter with no nonsense logic.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, how he has handled this situation goes to the root of the candidate and lets one see his thought patterns for handling situations. Most concerning.
With this latest admission I think one can safely come to the conclusion that his run for the Republican nomination is coming to an end. I am not saying he should get out…but I think this latest screw up has sealed his fate as many will likely write him off.
It is too bad because he had such potential!!!
- Anonymous
Poor judgment yes, not presidential yes, suspicious behavior yes, adultery, benefit of doubt.
- Anonymous
That’s how I feel.
- Anonymous
I really do not see what else he could do? The choices are LIE, as many before him have done, or tell the truth..
The more I see on the latest accuser only makes me believe that the guy just might be telling the truth…
I have not to this point in time seen one single bit of FACTUAL proof that ANY of the accusers are,
1. telling the truth or
2. Actually have a legit case against him..I don’t see that he has handled it that badly, just how could it have been done better?
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
I disagree….He knew all the women and knew what potential problems could occur….Hermann Cain and his team should have vetted themselves better….to not do a better job of damage control is just niave when running for the office of President and just goes to show how he is not ready for the Presidency. To be totally derailed by this is just plan stupid and bad management.
Why does the way he handle this matter??
Look at what the current Presidents bad management has done to the country.
( I think no further explination needed)So, YES this does matter very much because it lets us see the way Hermann Cain will handle situations in the future…..and as far as I can see this is really bad! Because as President…..bad management can cause economic collapse or worse get us into another WAR.
In my opinion….I am sorry to say….Herman Cain is a no.
- Anonymous
Actually he did not know the woman.
He was aware one sexual harassment complaint that ended up in an employee getting some go away money. He knew that somebody else once complained about him, but he never knew of any settlement (which the paperwork and timeline prove).
Politico came to him and said that two woman said he sexually harassed them…he had no idea what they were talking about…and Politico gave Cain nor his campaign any details….
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
CPAguy wrote : ”Actually he did not know the women.”
Excuse me??? I think you better go back and re look at the videos of what Hermann Cain actually said. He said he did know these women. But it appears you are either playing dumb or too naive to see. However, that is not the point.
The point is look at Hermann Cain the man and see how he is making decisions and how he is handling this situation. That gives you insight as to his future and how he will make decisions as a President. See this scares the crap out of me because this tells me he would make decision as President.
If you can not see that then my apoligies.
- Anonymous
I’m sorry. I should have clarified that Cain did not really know these women besides outside of work and was aware of one case in which he was falsely accused of sexual harassment.
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
Ginger White????? Hermann Cain admits he knew her for 13 years and gives her money to support her. Exactly how is that not really knowing someone??? Before I give anyone my money I want to know all about them. All their baggage everything……
So, your point is not valid.
- Anonymous
I’m not going to disagree with you, your points are valid.. After all we are not debating his innocence or guilt… That is a different matter..
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
Personally, I think Hermann Cain is innocent. Guess where Ginger White has been and is living currently???? Answer: Chicago…..
Boy does that one send up red flags….
This has DNC/Obama Team slander all over it.
- Anonymous
LOL…Chicago….that can’t be true…
- Anonymous
His wife just found out! I call that handling it badly.
- Anonymous
How does one handle this well?
Please give your insight….I mean…Cain has like $12 million dollars that he could spend on your expert analysis.
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
I would have vetted myself better than Hermann Cain did thats how. I would have been prepared to answer any questions that might cause concern because I would have discussed it all with my handlers and senior staff. Before annoucing my candidacy…that is what exploritorial committees are for…not just fund raising.
This is not for the position of mayor or city council….This is for the position of PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The top job, the biggest fish bowl in the world. You really have to have all, I repeat ALL!!, your Ps and Qs covered NO MATTER how small, trivial, or suspect. They all count in the Presidential Politics game. If you are not prepared you are not ready for the office.
- ApplePie101
At the very least, Cain seemed to be encouraging idle dependency.
- Anonymous
Yep. This brings to mind the old saying, “Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life.”
This woman should have been taught to fish.
- http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon
So when all this was first breaking… Herman hightails it to CNN and NOT to meet directly with his wife? Doesn’t it seem odd that he’s not even going to be home until Friday?
My crap would be in the front yard if I ever tried to pull something like that off.
- Anonymous
she is a w___e.
And a nutty one at that.
———–
Even wh0__s have some semblance of professional integrity .
This ginger ale thing had no shame taking money from a man while giving nothing in return, for 13 long years, just to live a lifestyle she definitely could not afford by herself.
And then stabbed him on the back the moment someone offered her more money to malign him. - Anonymous
Where is the parking lot lady? Maybe we should just wait one more week and the casual on-off-lady will also disappear. What is wrong with us? We need oxygen, but stop breathing every time a slut shows up!
- MichaelLee1
First of all I like Cain. But, he skrewed up. Marriage is supposed to be based on open communication. Sure, we might not tell our wives minor things like we bet on a game or we have a couple extra bucks for ourselves. But to let this thing go on for 13 years in secret smells bad. Granted, all these women who accuse Cain are proven skanks. What really stinks here is that the msm continues to pound this crap into the brains of brainless people while neglecting to inform them on the many,many, shortcomings of hussein obumma. I hate the msm with a f..king passion! They make pravda look good and they all should be tried for treason. Obumma is the enemy. You assholes in media make me sick!
- Anonymous
I actually don’t totally agree with you here, 13 years? Just how is that proven?
Now your remark about the MSM is spot on…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Cain DID say he new her for 13 years, even though he denies a sexual relationship:
“”I acknowledge that I knew the woman. [...]I acknowledge that I have known her for about that period of time. But the accusation that I had a 13-year affair with her, no.”
- Anonymous
Thank you Kris, I really just can’t keep up with everything…..
I did come across this though…
http://taxedenoughalready.blogspot.com/2011/12/end-of-ginger-white-media-circus.html
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Lol wow, that’s a juicy story if true.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Maybe he’s just a plain humanitarian. Those kinds of people are still in this world, although not many. The most kindest altruistic person that i know is my aunt. She has helped a lot of people behind her spouse’s back just as herman cain had. People took advantage of both of their generosities as expected. It’s not the initial act but the optics which looks bad.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I understand, but that’s your aunt. There is no comparison with a man giving money to a woman and keeping it a secret from his wife.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
In both cases “no good deed goes unpunished”.
- Anonymous
I have heard Rush give away dozens of gifts to folks on the radio, once he let a lady pick out a brand new vehicle. He is on his third wife and I would give him the benefit of doubt anyday.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
But Rush is doing that on the radio, so he’s hardly keeping that a secret from anyone. He’s not giving away secret gifts behind his wife’s back.
- Anonymous
That is true, I meant that there are generous people out there, Mr. Cain has to reconcile his gift giving with his wife not us.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I agree with you there. But hardcore values voters are probably not going to give that wiggle room to Cain. Come to think of it, I think it was mostly social conservative value voters that went to him, but I could be wrong.
- Anonymous
they are freebies paid for by the sponsors.
- Anonymous
Without going into too much details about how I know , let me say this :
There are many women in our society who go around trolling for successful men and seduce men with their misery and daddy-less babies.
There will always be greedy lying women looking to cash on a man’s weakness to be nester and provider .
Men don’t have to take their bait, specially behind their wife’s back.
These women have nothing to lose, they will find someone else to feed off , sooner or later.
A successful man in our society has many many enemies, specially if he helps them with his money. - Anonymous
Scoop, something is wrong with the Perry thread, at least from here. I can see all of the posts on this thread and others, but no posts on the new Perry thread.
Suggestions? - Anonymous
Same here, I posted and saw my post but no others.
- Anonymous
My post was awesome. How about yours?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez
that happen to me too on the Perry thread..
All I did to get it working again was select the “sort by” tab, and after the comments showed up and started working again
- Anonymous
Not near as awesome as yours, I want to see it. I can’t help loving his ad.
- Anonymous
It isn’t really awesome, just silly. It appears to be fixed now though at the Perry thread. I can see the posts. Your post has more “likes” than mine. Felt like crud all day but am starting to feel better. I should’ve cooked that durn dead possum I found side the road before eating it. Lesson learned.
- Anonymous
Stuxnet got me I guess, I clicked like on your post, it don’t show, I posted again, it don’t show. I like the armored possums down south better than our northern possums.
- Anonymous
Three words, de lish us !
You know the best way to cook those road possums right? You cover them in RINO dung, cook them for half a day at 400F, peel away the dung, throw away the possum and eat the dung. I shouldn’t have skipped that part.
- http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada
you ought to just shoot the possums yourself like we do

- Anonymous
Perry’s ad is way too cute!
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
He gave money to the woman and did not even tell his wife???? If I did that to my wife….oh crap!!! would I be in the dog house.
Bad Hermann….very bad. You should have known better……!
- Anonymous
Are you a millionaire?
- http://twitter.com/113KriEger Allen
What’s your point??
if I was helping someone out by supporting them for 13 years….you bet my wife would know about it.
and to answer your question….yes I am and….. I tell my wife everything I talk to her about my business and what I am doing all the time.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Exactly. –Or it’s the dog house for you.
- Anonymous
He has known her for 13 years…not supported her for 13 years. Nobody has ever implied that.
- Anonymous
True, it proves nothing.
But if it were my husband I would have a thousand questions. - Anonymous
Not if your husband was a millionaire.
- Anonymous
Rahm and the Chicago Thugs at work…
- Maxsteele
Okay, so he is making phone calls to a woman using his private cell phone at all hours of the day and night. He is giving this woman money “to help her out financially” but not telling his wife about it and still this does not prove anything. This is not a criminal case here, this is very strong, albeit circumstancial, evidence. I would not lend anyone personal money from my family income to anyone without telling my wife–male or female.
- http://twitter.com/cfallon57 Cheryl Fallon
Look again at your first two sentences-it doesn’t look good to do those things without your spouse’s knowledge- at best it shows poor judgement at worst-she/Gloria has a lot of forgiving to do.
- Anonymous
That’s not what I heard…
I was listening to Rush towards the end of his show today and he stated that someone had the phone records and all the calls they were talking about (text actually) were all initiated by the woman, Cain responded to her 60 or 70 some-odd text something like 17 times, but in every case His contact was in response to a contact initiated by her…
.
At least that is what Rush stated…. FWIW. True or not I don’t know..
- Anonymous
Why doesn’t Cain just release his side of the text messages? I don’t text so I don’t know for sure, but isn’t there some kind of record of what was texted from a phone as well as the date and time? If he did nothing wrong then these messages would clear him.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I agree. That would clear it up so easily.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
If ginger white came this far as to say herman cain & she knew each other for 13 years why stop only at suggestion? One can’t argue it’s because she’s a lady and ladies don’t kiss and tell when she already has except for the sordid & salacious details, which makes me wonder. The preponderance of evidence/burden of proof is on her not him. In the court of (uncritical & unanalytical thinking) public opinion he’s guilty ’till proven innocent like in china or the ex-soviet union. In the meanwhile we have a marxist, mooslim loving, christian hating, cocaine using homosexual in the whitehouse. Peace out.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I’m no fan of Obama, but…..
If he is a Muslim-lover, so what? Jesus loves Muslims. He said, “Love thy neighbor,” remember?
He is a Christian, and hence not a Christian hater.
If you have proof he is using cocaine, I want to see it.
He is not an homosexual, but if he was…..who cares?
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
It’s in his book ‘Dreams from My Father’ which he may or may not have wrote.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
If that’s the cocaine thing, he if he’s not using it NOW, then it really doesn’t matter anymore. –Bush was an alcoholic, but I wouldn’t call him a boozer…not at this point anyway.
- Anonymous
There are all kinds of indications that Obama is gay. Google “Man’s Country” in Andersonville, Ill.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
If he is, then great. I’m not bothered by a gay president.
- Anonymous
Perry is also rumored to be gay…LOL…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Tell that to his wife. She says he’s Texas Toast. Oh well, maybe she likes gay. SOME women do, though not all. XD
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
How did you arrive at this site? Or you an obamabot? Trolling perhaps?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
If you’re talking to me, no, I’m far from an “Obamabot.” Why would you think so?
Like I said before, I have been accused by Democrats as being a “tea baggar,” and I also have been accused by “right-wingers” as being a Democrat.—- I’m a Libertarian…I am not either with Democrats or Republicans.
I am on the ABO (Anybody but Obama group) though.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Jezz, I was not attacking Bush. I was simply judging both Obama and Bush on the same standard…..you know, without a double standard, being UNBIASED about it?
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Everyone is biased, especially journOlists. Even though they don’t admit it, they are. Good vs. evil, pro-life vs. pro-death, low taxes vs. high taxes, health choice vs. obamascare, etc. Regarding the ‘jesus loved mooslims’ line that you peppered in your previous post let me tell you the holy bible and the US constitution are not suicide pacts. They also contain a lot of words and phrases are are very pro-self preservation. There are people who don’t believe in either the Good book or the constitution but use it against others to wield power.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
You want my biases? Here you go:
1. Lower Taxes.
2. Slashed spending.
3. Abolish many social services.
4. Bring our soldiers home.
5. Let all nations govern themselves. Leave them alone.
6. No amnesty for illegal immigrants (not even Newt’s plan)
7. Abolish Obamacare.
8. Keep Church and State separate.
9. Legalize Marijuana.
10. Vote Liberrtarian (Republicans and Democrats are destroying America)Looking at my biases, no thinking person would ever think I am an “obamabot.”
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
ahhh! a Paulistinian. LoL
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Hey, Palestinians have rights too.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Paulistinian is a play on Ron Paul & palestinian. Coined by the illustrious radio talk show host michael medved.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
Alright, well I don’t listen to him.
- Anonymous
What?! Ron Paul is the only candidate that is on record to have called the housing bubble before it burst! His the only candidate that have a real plan to balance the buget! We are told by the media trolls that we are going to have to vote for someone that is electable like Mittens or Newt. LOL! In other words vote for the best democrat in our primaries! There is just one or two issues you disagree with Ron Paul but all the good will out weigh any bad.
1. Eliminate the personal income tax and replace it with nothing! In other words you’ll keep your whole check!
2. Cut $1trillion in the first year buget.
3. Cut the IRS and EPA
4. Cut 5 departments of gov. Commerce, energy, education, Housing and interior, and urban development.
5. As president he will cut his salary $400,000 to the avg middle class income of $39,000
6. Cut the FEDS!!!!
7. Put us on a gold standard!!!
This plan will give us a economic boom that I don’t think America has ever seen.
I take offense to the title of paulistianian. If any candidate was to adopt this plan and had a better chance to win the nomination I will drop Ron Paul immediately but there is no other states man in the race, so it’s Ron Paul or bust for me!
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
First of all let me start of saying some of the things RP professes is right on. But the drug legalization & no foreign intervention is a no no, it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Second, RP is too geriatric & he should have retired to florida a while ago. People who were not grounded in reality said once bush is gone and obama becomes president america’s stance in the world will be changed and we will be loved, how has that panned out? No matter who the president democrat or republican, america will always have enemies due to it being #1. We’ve to defend ourselves before the attack happens not pick up the pieces later, that means thwarting plots in other countries. How the president reacts during times of trouble will determine his character. That being said Ron paul should have a seat at the table maybe overseeing the fed or something, that’s it. Not in defense or POTUS.
- Anonymous
I’m not judging Mr Cain one way or the other. In the end it will be between him, God and his wife. That said… as a wife… my dear husband would be in a world of hurt right now.
- Anonymous
This looks bad, indeed. If I were helping someone out with bills, my wife would know it. Also, if this is true, why would she turn on him and lie about him after all he had done for her? Unless he cut her off and someone offered her money. I which case, I’d expect righteous indignation and a renewed desire to win and get to the bottom of this unfounded character assassination.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Ginger white is behind on her rent $7,000, guess where? That’s right chicago, again. $3,500 a month for a townhouse she fell behind by 2 months. This had axelrod, rahm emanuel and the entire dirty obama chicago machine behind it.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
If Obama were really behind it, it would be smarter to have kept the story a secret until AFTER Cain got the nomination, and RIGHT before October of 2012.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
True. Why dip into obummer’s $1 billion reelection propaganda fund when Cain can be knocked out for nothing right now. Unlike the others on the stage who have flaws and are beltway establishment guys, there isn’t a real controversy with Cain. That’s why it has to manufactured from whole cloth. There is plenty of irregularities on gingrich and romney without the demoncrats and their friends in the media taking their words out of context. The black vote is 9 to 1 demoncrat now. Imagine if cain ran against obummer, I admit it won’t flip but if a few percentage can comes our way that will mean the goose is cooked for the demoncrats. The blacks won’t be held hostage by them in large numbers any longer. Romney or gingrich are not going to change the hearts and minds of blacks, guaranteed.
- Anonymous
If Obama were really behind it, it would be smarter to have kept the story a secret until AFTER Cain got the nomination, and RIGHT before October of 2012
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Obama and his minions are not known to be smart.
Cunning, shrewd, vicious, hateful,racists,anti-American,vindictive,thugs, selfish, greedy, murdurous, anti-semitic –yes
Smart–no way . - http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Smith/100000135417264 Kris Smith
I would not call Obama “stupid.” — Incompetent, yes. But Incompetence is not equivalent so stupidity.
- Anonymous
He is not incompetent either. He is malicious , plain and simple.
The media wants us to think he is incompetant, but he is malicious and its not even a secret anymore.
This feces-flinging against Cain reminds me of Obama +AsslRod+Rhambo dirty tricks, just like what they did to Obama’s opponent by unsealing his divorce records in IL. - Anonymous
I thought that was Bialek that was getting evicted from her Chicago townhouse, not White.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
This one too. Apparently in obama, axelrod & emanuel’s backyard: CHICAGO.
- http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon
As much as I absolutely hate to promote CNN…
CNN will have Cain’s lawyer on tonight (Piers Morgan 9:00 Eastern)
I’m gonna try to sit through it.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Giving one’s own money to someone is a strange concept for liberals. They are liberal with other people’s money like yours, in the form of higher taxes & redistribution of wealth.
- Anonymous
There’s a butt load of speculation going on here, more than likely just what someone intended..
In the meanwhile no one talks about what a F’ed up job the big O has done. The guy has more bad baggage than LaGuardia…
We can call the libs & rinos dumb all we want but they were smart enough to take out Palin , even though it took them 2 or 3 years to get the job done, and Cain looks to be suffering the same fate…
They WANT ROMNEY … He is their man … They gave us Juan McCain in 2008, now they are gonna do it to us again in 2012…
- http://onthemark1.blogspot.com On The Mark
The most effective way for Cain to clear his name is for him to stay in the race in defiance of the media.
- http://twitter.com/ranjay25 rAnJaY25
Exactamundo. Which will only go to show how influential and powerful the lame stream democrap media (pravda) really is. He should not let the rats & roaches in the media drive the agenda. If he withdraws now he’ll be known as a quitter & the false accusations will be seen as gospel. Isn’t that what the cockroaches say about sarah palin? Although her decision was based on the lawsuits which was costing her a lot financially to defend.
- cabensg
It’s bad enough he didn’t handle this before running now he’s supposed to poke his supporters and wife in the eye again by explaining day after day what happened. His own poor judgment caused this mess. You do not run for president as a conservative Republican and expect your past to be secret. If he doesn’t know that we’re certainly better off without him. Yes the liberal media is gleefully shouting this from the roof tops but it could have all been avoided if he’d cared more about his wife and the party he was supposed to represent than himself.
- http://twitter.com/Zederok Steve Mink
Sorry you should never help out someone of the opposite sex without your wife’s consent….thats just down right common sense. And if he doesnt have the common sense to know that I sure as hell dont want him leading my country. Not that I wouldnt mind seeing him in the cabinet somewhere though jsut not at the top of the ticket. I relaly wanted to believe him but its just to much to quick.
Ron Paul 2012
- http://profiles.google.com/ranjay25 no kia
Ron Paul is a tired old horse. Only Paulistinians will vote for him, which will be only in single digits. He does not instill confidence.
- Anonymous
The Chicago innuendo syndicate is operating at full speed once again.
- cabensg
There’s only one person responsible for this fiasco…Herman Cain. He knew running for president was a high profile endeavor. He knew this would eventually be ferreted out by the liberal press. He didn’t tell his wife beforehand and get it cleared before deciding to run. Whether he had an affair or not if he really cared about the people who were going to support him and his family he would have addressed this problem before running not after. I think we’re well off to know now what he considers important and it wasn’t his supporters, his wife or the party he was supposed to represent.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/William-A-Cummins/618584017 William A. Cummins
Being a victim of harassment years ago I am appalled when someone who supposedly was a victim has to READ it and has an attorney there. How could anyone possibly believe these people. I knew where I was, who it was and I didn’t have to write down what was said or done. Your NEVER forget that kind of behavior. Ann C, Port Orange, Fl
Admittedly, that kinda sounds bad but it still doesn’t prove that a 13-year extra-marital affair took place.
The more noteworthy item from this article in my opinion is that Cain appears to be dropping more hints that he may be out soon, saying that leaving the race “is an option.” That’s a truism of course, but I don’t think he’d be saying that if he was digging in for the long haul. Would he?
MANCHESTER – Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with “month-to-month bills and expenses” without telling his wife.
In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, “did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story.”
In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.
Cain also stated clearly for the first time that he is considering getting out of the presidential race.
Asked whether leaving the race is one of the options he is currently assessing, Cain said, “Yes, it is an option.”
Cain told the New Hampshire Union Leader that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, she was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”
Cain said White, who has alleged that she and Cain had a 13-year extramarital affair, told him that she did not have a job and was unable to get financial help from her family, “and that quite frankly, I was the only person who was a friend at the time – and I underscore ‘friend’ – that was in a position to help her.
“I’m a soft-hearted person when it comes to that stuff. I have helped members of my church. I have helped members of my family.
“And I know a lot of other people who had done the same thing, and sometimes, quite frankly, it was desperation,” Cain said.
Cain said that in 17 reported text messages back to her, he would respond with messages such as, “What are you doing to get a job?”
Cain said he did give Ginger White money, although he would not say how much on the advice of counsel.
And, he acknowledged, “My wife did not know about it, and that was the revelation. My wife found out about it when she went public with it.
“My wife now knows,” Cain said. “My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I’m a soft-hearted giving person.”
He said his wife “is comfortable with the explanation that I told her.”
He said he told his wife about White only after White went public.
Cain said that in retrospect he should have told his wife about his friendship with White, “but retrospect doesn’t necessarily change what’s going on now.”
He also said his wife “did not know we were friends until she (White) came out with this story.”
He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, “nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that.
“I thought I was helping a friend, end of story,” he said.
Cain said the two “struck up a friendship” many years ago when she attended a conference in Louisville, Ky., where he was the keynote speaker.
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation.
“But I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money,” Cain said. “I was helping her with month-to-month bills and expenses and somebody _ this is speculation only _ offered her a lot of money.
“And one of my objectives is to clear my name and my reputation,” Cain said.
Cain said that although he is considering leaving the race, “We weren’t slowing down. We’re keeping all commitments and we’re reassessing several things.
“So, yes, getting out is an option,” he said. “That just meant were were not going put the brakes on until” he made his decision.
Cain said he intends to meet with his wife and family members during the weekend.
He said he will leave the race if his wife asks him to do so, “but my wife wouldn’t ask me to get out.”
“I would make a decision based on how all of this stuff is affecting her,” he said.
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