And not just any old snake pit, but a rattlesnake pit. Yes, she survived:

Consider this another open thread for Tuesday.




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Terry Smith
Terry Smith

Ya spend the money, ya send 'em to school, ya permit them to put pins near their eyes and upper lip, and ya's get this!

"Well, um, like, um, HEY THAT HURTS, um, ya know, like, I live near a desert, and um, like, I don't got no cool shoes, HEY THAT HURTS, and um, like, you should wear boots, HEY THAT HURTS!"

imsteph
imsteph

bet money on who she voted for....

yeah, I know-easy bet.

PicklePlants
PicklePlants

Darwin made some good points

Rshill7
Rshill7

No he didn't.

I catch your drift though :-)

K-Bob
K-Bob

First you grant the state exclusive control over medical care, so you get "free" healthcare! Yay!

Then, the state repays your stupidity by deciding how you will live.

What We Need Are More Rules -- Tim Blair

bbitter
bbitter

1) Don't move.

...

4) Get to the ER as soon as possible

...um... am I the only one who saw this?

Watchman74
Watchman74

They didn't explain why a tourniquet is bad either.

Wolfie
Wolfie

yeah, I wish they would have because I don't know.

K-Bob
K-Bob

I had to read the whole thread to get to the bottom line, but it looks like we need to reconsider giving money to Wounded Warrior this year.

It isn't just AARP. Every charity or advocacy group that goes national and gets an HQ in the DC area becomes "just another non-profit" to work at, for folks who graduated with Poli Sci degrees. They move from non-profit to non-profit, working their way up the salary ladder, and just plain don't give a rat's UKW about the mission of the organization.

That's why AARP is now a massive, self-sustaining non-profit that takes in billions of dollars and doesn't do jack for seniors.

librtifirst
librtifirst

The best charity is the one in which you hand something to the recipient. I used to give to charities for children and such, then learned what they were actually all about. When my employer had the United Way pushing 100% participation at work, I made sure that they didn't get it. I spread the word about how their CEO made millions in bonus', and that they reject organizations who have principled belief systems.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Yeah, United Way opened my eyes, too. There was also a way that United Way could find out if you also gave to another charity that year, say a school for the deaf, and they would reduce the amount they sent that school by the amount you sent. They wanted to be the final arbiter of who got what, not you, the donor.

K-Bob
K-Bob

And those work drives can be pretty relentless sometimes. After the scandal broke about the lifestyles of the rich and fabulous United Way staff, they started laying off of the hard sell.

librtifirst
librtifirst

Wow. I didn't know that. What a sham.

BikerHoop
BikerHoop

I get hassled every year by management at work because during their United Way drive when they come to talk to me I simply tell them to save their time and mine. I give directly to the charities of my choice. I don't need the United Way or any other organization to decide who best deserves my money.

K-Bob
K-Bob

The Stalinists are at it again. Looks like there's a petition started to strip citizenship and deport anyone signing a petition for secession.

The scumbags are getting bolder, folks.

4Hoppes2
4Hoppes2

Scumbags= perfect definition K-Bob.

librtifirst
librtifirst

I saw that. The whole thing is just funny. Like Obama is going to grant permission for most of those petitions. Why would anyone petition the White House for permission to succeed? I was talking to a friend about it today, and said "I won't sign it, because it will only put me higher on the hit list for when the time comes to round us up". The sad thing is, it's not a joke.

Watchman74
Watchman74

Both petitions are not going to go anywhere.

librtifirst
librtifirst

Did you see the Texas petition? 90k plus signatures. It's symbolically interesting.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Oh, the secession petitions are just a waste of time. ANother "list" to be on, as if we all aren't already on several.

But the other petition is something for which every person on it should be publicly humiliated for signing.

Stewie
Stewie

I recall saying something about signing your name to any government site......hmm

The left plays hardball, and the right, for the most part, are a bunch of *fill in the blank*. It's no wonder we lose. Can we get some leadership with some balls, please. If Allen West had a pager, it would be going off right now.

Watchman74
Watchman74

To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid.

poljunkie
poljunkie

Well, its been a week since the election, and we still feel as sick.

Still in the dulldrums my husband said, hey lets go out to lunch. Something we rarely do. We decided to try the new oriental, thai place that just opened up.

We walk in, and the place is empty except for one table with two 50-60 something ladies sitting in the back, talking loudly. We sit in the front. OK, we order, a couple appetizers….we are always watching our diet, and our weight….we work hard to maintain…but thought we would have a little bit of something "good" to , well just make us feel better. Just as the first appetizer comes, the women start exclaiming how fantastic it is that some counties in Florida went 99% for Obama. One says, I know its probably not real, but you know what? who cares, right? They conversed about electronic voting machines being able to be manipulated for a bit (Its like they knew we were conservative, and purposely spoke extra loud!!), and then they started discussing how they were so happy the Republicans were sent to "their corner". Naturally they blamed the entire loss on the extreme right, and had a great chuckle.They then started pulling apart counties in California that they could never live in because they were too Repulican. Love Palm Springs, Yorba Linda, Love San Fran, Hate Coronado, etc.

I was getting so anxious, and hubby was ready to stand up and say ENOUGH. Keep your voices down. Sadly, after giving them the stink eye a few times, we decided we should just go.

Is this where we are headed? Is the country so divided that no one is going to be civil?

These women were spewing some kind of hate. They werent just opposed to the Right, they were mean spirited and hateful….These women were peoples moms and grandma's, people you see everyday in the market and while doing your errands... and thats what is upsetting to me.

colliemum
colliemum

50-60 somethings? Those laydees were probably dyed-in-the-wool feminists, flower children and basically the first wave of committed crypto-commies.

These laydees probably taught your children in school or at college. They never used their brain cells after their indoctrination at an early age.

I know some of them as well - all quite successful professionals, but the political nous of a new-born mouse.

librtifirst
librtifirst

I think that part of the problem is that too many people are identifying with one side or the other, rather than simply having political convictions. They join the "team", and therefor a bias is created that blocks out critical thinking concerning the facts. Liberals are much worse than conservatives, but both sides have the same problem.

I have actually been called a liberal for pointing out the flaws of the Republican party. It comes from an irrationality that is caused by a partisan mental block, as far as I can tell.

It is interesting how someone can be an intelligent person, but totally ignorant and closed minded on certain things.

Rshill7
Rshill7

My wife and I have been singing "Happy Days Are Here Again" as if we're crying while singing it. We're not really crying but we sing it as if we are. I'll usually start it off and she finishes it with me. It makes us laugh...which keeps us from really crying.

A few weeks ago we were having dinner at Applebees and the music they were playing included this really disgusting song called "Get Low". I asked the waitress, "would you please tell me who the fool is that chose this music?" I was livid. There were kids in there too of course.

The manager came over to our table and I reamed him up one side and down his Mother. A meal can be ruined very easily.

In the tip section of the bill I wrote out "ZERO!" :-)

poljunkie
poljunkie

You're so funny Rs. I wish you lived nearby.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Good on ya! Reminds me of how I used to have to turn around the magazines at the checkout line in the grocery store for blaring headlines and running lurid photos about Michael Jackson's pedophilia, and other sick crap I didn't need my young kids to see.

I'd do it loudly, and "crisply" too. Making lots of noise about having to endure this gauntlet of filth just to buy groceries.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Hah! At the time, I was a long-haired rock musician and I had lived for the buzz. But you have to be a Dad when you're a Dad. Anything less is unmanly.

librtifirst
librtifirst

Religious, right wing, home schooling terrorist alert! :)

Watchman74
Watchman74

Let them have there day, they won't be laughing when the taxes hit and they have rationed health care.

Orangeone
Orangeone

And they likely paid their bill with food stamps and didn't tip their server.

4Hoppes2
4Hoppes2

I just took delivery of a package from Midway USA yesterday from UPS, the driver knew what was in the package and right off the bat started in with the paranoid right wingers preparing for armageddon. He went on and on about the same thing happening under Clinton and us right wingers are nothing but misanthropic nut jobs. Don't let it get you down.

poljunkie
poljunkie

We order a lot from Midway. Our UPS guy is great. Most times on Halloween he is the only person to show up in "costume" and gets all of our candy.

We had a Black conservative FEDEx Guy for about 8 years but he picked up and left AZ and moved to Montana! We loved to talk politics.

About the women in the restaurant- I wanted to sooooo go over to their table and say- you do know that for the first time in 15 years this town VOTED over 70% for the entire REPUBLICAN ticket.

Wolfie
Wolfie

How did he know what was in the package?

Wolfie
Wolfie

Kinda creepy that he'd notice and even say something. The UPS driver we have is the same guy that comes all the time and he's never intrusive like that. He's a really nice guy as well... So is our regular mailman. Neither of them have every mentioned anything about what they were delivering except to exchange pleasantries.

4Hoppes2
4Hoppes2

I think the boxes have a designated regulated material stamp or barcode on them, otherwise I would guess by the weight and size of the package would tip off an experienced driver. All I can be sure about was he knew.

librtifirst
librtifirst

I just finished putting in another Midway order. I'm stocking up on things like high capacity mags and reloading supplies. So far, I am not seeing shortages, but it is early yet. I did notice that the UPS ground shipping has gone up. Makes me wonder if Midway gets a special rate.

librtifirst
librtifirst

I'll look for it when my package comes in. I don't buy powder or primers online because of the cost of shipping.

Rshill7
Rshill7

There's a UPS guy that we get from time to time due to them switching up for vacations and such. Quite often he'll be playing Rush or Levin very loudly on his radio.

When I was running a western store in Myrtle Beach many moons ago, our UPS man delivering goods always had Rush playing loudly...always, without exception.

There's a lot of folks in unions that vehemently disagree with what they do. Here in Michigan there's an, ex-military UAW GM employee that speaks at Tea Party rallies here. I've heard him a couple of times, and he's great!

Hey, was the marking on the package a black and white triangle oriented in the shape of a diamond, like this: http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dlimited%2Bquantity%2Blabels&w=325&h=325&imgurl=www.thecompliancecenter.com%2Fstore%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F325x%2F5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d%2Fl%2Fb%2Flbcn80_hi.gif&size=3KB&name=lbcn80_hi.gif&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecompliancecenter.com%2Fstore%2Fus%2Flabels%2Fshipping-and-handling%2Fquantity-related%2Flb-cn80.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecompliancecenter.com%2Fstore%2Fus%2Flabels%2Fshipping-and-handling%2Fquantity-related%2Flb-cn80.html&p=limited+quantity+labels&type=&no=2&tt=115&oid=C6888C1BF5B296155065DCEDF753C76F1B8158AD&tit=Limited+Quantity+Label%2C+4%26quot%3B+x+4%26quot%3B%2C+Gloss+Paper%2C+Roll+of+500+-+Quantity+...&sigr=136rse3os&sigi=13tnecanp&sigb=121s6fiu0&fr=yfp-t-701-s If so, that's a fairly new shipping category. It means limited quantity. We use them in our business too on some items that we ship to folks. It's considered "hazmat" but does not require all the paperwork or the $20-$27 hazmat fee per package.

4Hoppes2
4Hoppes2

I also noticed an increase in shipping certain items, and in the last couple days I noticed a change in the Form 4473 OTC Fed. Firearms Purchase app. You have to check a box designating either Hispanic or Latino or NOT Hispanic or Latino. The change could be over a year old, it was even a different color than the last time I filled one out. As for shortages, I have been pleasantly surprised my favorites are still reasonably priced and available.

jaym68
jaym68

So, about UPS...

Between your story and this one on FN today:

UPS ends grants to Boy Scouts over discrimination

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/13/ups-ends-grants-to-boy-scouts-over-discrimination/

...it sounds like UPS might just have a political tilt that I, for one, was unaware of.

Good to know when choosing who will, or will not get my business.

Wolfie
Wolfie

21 United Parcel Service $27,292,292 36% 63%

Key: Donated amount. %dem %Republican.

Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

You can find a lot of good info about what companies are donating to which party there.