The Right Scoop
The controlled media promote Romney here. The controlled media are tasked with delivering him as the GOP candidate. After that, it will be a school of sharks and the lying Mitt "Mr. Wall Street" Romney has a lot of bleeding red meat for them.
I find the entire premise of that piece insulting and pathetic. The idea that these liberals think they have to discover a good thing or two, as if THEY alone have a monopoly on goodness, makes me want to puke. Of course Romney is a good man. Lefties are so brainwashed that THEY and THEY ALONE are the good ones. It's so delusional, and especially sad given how smart they think they are. Whenever I speak to someone on the left, this obnoxious self-righteous arrogance comes across loud and clear. They are so convinced of their moral superiority - which is pretty funny given how self-centered, selfish, and amoral (immoral?) most of them are. Yet, the right is "the bad guys".
It's a very foolish thought to put Romney in the same brain wave with Obama. To foolishly look for and wait for the perfect candidate to take Obama down would be just as bad as going out and voting for Obama to complete his plan of destruction (which is underway currently). Even if Romney turns out to be left of center, and I don't think that will happen, he will not be in the loony bleachers with the liberals. The people in this country will have ample opportunities to regain some control of this nation with Romney as president, especially if we give him a conservative house and senate to work with.
Romney governed on the left and would have been better off running in the democrat's primary... he fits on that side.
This kind behavior is expected from one having a heart and desire to gain god status, and your own planet to rule over. And the One whose opinion matters, you know, the one who is considered the spirit brother of satan by the LDS church sees it as dead works. Those are the held believes of one trying to earn favor with not only the voters of this nation, but the God of all creation. Mitt falls very short in the one area that matters most. And those who are impressed by his good works are as deceived as he is.
While he was helping with the tree during the time he was running for president last time, I wonder if he asked the person videoing him not make the film public during any time he was on the stump of the campaign trail?
It's great he helped rescue the girl who disappeared- why is he, according to this reporter, now making this a topic to bring up on the campaign? Proverbs 27:2
Perhaps some of the reasons people think Romney is plastic (moldable outward appearance, artificial in substance) is a number of his statements as a presidential candidate don't match his record as a non-conservative governor; perhaps it is while he smiles for the camera and tries to please the conservative crowd with his words, his attack campaigning against his Republican rivals tells the story of someone who can't run on the whole of his record, so he did his best with much negative campaigning to tear down those opponents he considered threats.
Having a nice looking family does not always translate to having an inspiring record as a politician.
Must be nice to think you know someone without really knowing them. To be such a harsh judge of someone you don't know. How sad for you. Are you convinced you're better than everyone else, or are you just as unfairly harsh on yourself?
What a great story and a good man Mitt Romney is. He will be an excellent leader for this counrty. Reading some of your comments, I can't believe how closed minded some of you are.
It is nice that he has reached out to help people... though I would be interested to know what he has done for people who are not Mormons or employees. The thing that bothers me, is where is this man on the campaign? His campaign method in 2008 and 2012 is to outspend his challengers on negative ads and smear campaigns to destroy all opposition. He doesn't define himself and campaign on his record of accomplishment and solutions for America. Karl Rove said he had to come up with a few good ideas several months ago - well he has been running for President for almost a decade -shouldn't he already have a few good ideas? He cannot connect with people, he cannot communicate conservative ideals effectively because he has no real conservative convictions... it seems to me he is willing to say and do anything to get elected. I think conservatives have been disenfranchised by the GOP establishment and the RNC machine and we deserve a better candidate! They want Romney because he will fit right in with John Boehner and together they will manage the decline of this great nation. Compare what we are hearing from Allen West and what we are hearing from Mitt Romney and tell me that Romney should be our president? I just don't see it. He is about as inspiring as John McCain and Bob Dole ... oh wait, the GOP/RNC pushed them on us too, insisting they were the "electable" candidates... how did that turn out for us, folks? These people have proven they know how to pick losers! And we cannot afford four more years of Obama!
Nate,
Almost 4 years ago, I knew of 5 fellow born again Christians that voted for Obama. I truly believe they certainly were not well informed and their vote was cast on more of a feel good/momentous occasion vote than anything else. I now am positive they regret that vote tremendously.
Being a G_D fearing Christian, I realize that Mitt's beliefs...and yours are no where near what I believe the bible says but.......
I am not going to sit here and quibble over ones faith when the very country we live in is about to be ruined by a tyrannical extremist. Mitt has my vote and not because I am purposefully going against my core beliefs, but more so I am seeking to save the nation....even if it means my one vote made the difference.
Because if Obama is reelected, G_D help us all. Oh dear G_D help us all!!!!
Befor I get all the "Mitbot" crap thrown at me here, let me preface by saying that I'm NOT a Romney fan. My primary is still to be had (and my absentee ballot is strangely still yet to arrive), and had Santorum stayed, I'd be supporting him...
AND let me say that as a Christian, I think there are some funny things about Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses, etc. that bother me.
BUT... I will say this.. Many (if not most) are really good people. I do think Romney for all his political failings is a "good person".. AND i do realize that being a good people doesn't necessarily make one a good governor of the people
BUT... for those who think that Romney is just Obama with a melatonin dificiency, or Obama-lite, you've COMPLETELY missed the above point.
-- yes there is a potential that Romney may just be a status quo guy like the law firm of Bush & Bush or the Fruit Juice magnate or the guy who's more Tom Cruise than Maverick.. but the big difference is one of character..
with Obama, there is NO character, moral or otherwise. He surrounds himself with sychophants, race baiters, liers and cheats.. At his core it cannot be said that he is a good person (maybe a good dad).
So, on his worst day, Romeny doesn't have the potential to destroy the way Obama does. With any hope and a Republican Congress, maybe some progress can be made.. ie a dance move, 2 steps forward, one step back.. with Obama we'll be pegged in "R" with the pedal to the floor..
I get "not voting" on principle.. Bravo for having principles.. but you throw all that "principle" away if you don't vote or vote for a throw away guy.
For those of you who are Christians, I'm sure you know that there truly is NO hope for the world on it's own. Getting back to 1784 is a principled arguement and one that I agree with, but you're a niave Christian if you think man can fix man's problems and that includes politics.
We might not have a candidate this time who is what we want or need, but I'll vote for Saul over Satan any day..
""I do think Romney for all his political failings is a "good person"""
Good men do not lie to an entire nation. Good men do not, in arrogance, intentionally deceive people whose lives and futures lie at the whim of these elitists. Good men do not act against their core moral values for political expediency.
Two steps left and one back still moves us one step closer to tyranny, financial enslavement and a government of men instead of law.
All men are human. All men are fallible. You're looking for perfection. A God. Good men lie and cheat sometimes. Even saints like yourself. Not sure what you think Romney is lying to the nation about. It's not that I disagree with you. In a perfect world, politicians would be honest. We don't live in that world. A politician has two choices: be completely honest and definitely lose OR play the game and maybe win and do some ultimate good. I'm not defending it. I don't like it either. But there it is. Even the most honest man in the world, who thinks he is telling only the truth, STILL might be lying (fooling himself) and/or seen as lying by others.
Worse, how sure are we that we even know the truth? There are some things in life, where we know the truth with absolute certainty. e.g. Did we have sex with another woman while we were married? That is a black and white answer. However, if we change the question to: "were you unfaithful?", then we get different definitions and truths. Unfaithful in our heart? In our head? Flirting?
Romney is a man. Flawed. He does things he shouldn't do. He lies. He cheats. He sins. And he does good too. He obviously loves his wife and children. Has a good family. He helps other people. I believe that he is basically a good/decent man.
And this will probably get me flamed and attacked, but I believe Obama is basically a good/decent man too. {runs for cover}. It's just that he was raised in a very different way than you or I, and sees America and the world through different eyes. I dislike him and his wife very much. I am opposed to just about every single thing the man stands for. Yet, I think he believes he is doing good. He cares very much about what he sees as the right way to do things. That's what makes it so tragic. I think that those who think he is evil and trying to destroy the USA intentionally are way, way off. Unfortunately, to my mind, that is what is taking place. He must be defeated. But he is convinced he is doing the right thing, which is different than a man who intentionally does harm. For example, Obamacare. I oppose it. Most people do. But what he wants, which is to help less fortunate people have affordable or "free" healthcare, is not an evil goal in and of itself. He is trying to help people.
So what's your solution.. (I should have asked this question from the beginning).. To all of you who are (not)voting on principle, what's your solution? I get all your talking points (if you'll re-read my last post you'll see that) but what is your solution. You sound like Obama just slinging talking points with NO real solution. Should we give up? Should we hope that the country falls apart quickly and hope the phoenix (if there is one) will rise from the ashes? Should we start the 3rd War of American Independence? Should we riot in the streets? What should we do other than piss and moan on Right Scoop, etc etc??
Tell me your well thought out plan. Are you mobilizing your neighbors to be born-again constitutionalists. Or are you just preaching to the chior every day?
Look man, Romney is not the savior.. he's got issues, lots of them.. I think he was chicken-shit for the way his surrogates took down Newt and Rick, but the man is still light years ahead of the slum we have in that White House/Black Market (to steal a corporate reference)..
But really.. all of you who lambast those who aren't going to non-vote or support some nebulous Constitutional Party rep that even you don't know who that is.. what is your solution?
Solution: Recognize the lie of Romney's electability, the lie of Romney's inevitability and the outrageous lie of Romney's conservatism, and vote in the primary for someone who is not a Liberal/Statist liar.
Matthew 7:16
"By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"
How then do you separate one's record from their person?
The point is, people don't want a 'Republican' whose record proves he does not fear God nor does his record of mandating, ugly campaigning, etc. prove he is running on the ticket he should be. We don't know yet who Romney will surround himself with, should he be the nominee.
Christians and others who vote their consciences who haven't voted yet can send a loud message from their heart by voting for someone whose name is on the ballot in this primary season- someone who has walked the walk of being pro-life and pro-marriage.
At what point? When all else fails, if that means a brokered convention. The fat lady hasn't sung, Romney still isn't the nominee and if I could vote (I am a Canadian), I can say that I am not about to roll over, play dead and settle for second best.
Okay, I'm fine with that.. Who's the man (or woman)? For a brokered convention to work SOMEONE has to step up to be the man. Santorum won't, not now.. Paul.. uhhhh.. not gonna happen.. Newt.. okay maybe.. but he's not making smart strides to make that case.. Who is the man? Who steps forward and says I'm making a play for a brokered convention? Especially now, otherwise Romney does get the votes before the convention..
Not a bad idea, but at some point are you willing to say "we tried, we fell short, now we have to support the guy who will NOT send us to hell faster than the other guy"?
Three points:
"Look man, Romney is not the savior.. he's got issues, lots of them.. I think he was chicken-shit for the way his surrogates took down Newt and Rick, but the man is still light years ahead of the slum we have in that White House/Black Market (to steal a corporate reference).. "
http://gulagbound.com/27354/republican-voters-mitt-romney-is-a-traitor-dont-fall-for-pundits-psyops/
"Let's cut the head off the Mamba, hope that the Cotton Mouth that follows is less venomous and pray for a Mongoos to rise in the future. "
You're cutting the head of the mamba with another mamba.
"AGAIN.. What's your solution?"
A brokered convention.
I wasn't referring to his record, but his person.. Look final point I'm gonna make.. Romney and Obama look alike in politics to many of you, but not in INTENT!!
If Romney surrounds himself with just a few of those on the VP list, he's surrounded himself with people with more principle and moral standing in their pinky than all of Obama's slum factory put together..
THAT is part of the point I'm trying to make.. Do you want Obama and the trash he drags along with him for 4 or 8 more years?
Let's cut the head off the Mamba, hope that the Cotton Mouth that follows is less venomous and pray for a Mongoos to rise in the future.
AGAIN.. What's your solution?
How is he light years ahead?
Romneycare?
Cap and trade?
Crony capitalism?
Appointing liberal judges?
Progressive tax code?
Class warfare?
Romney supports all of the above. So does Obama.
Light years?
So a man cannot fix man's problems but vote for Romney anyway because ....
If one is a Christian and he/she trusts that no matter what God will put the person He desires in the White House through the actions of the electorate, why wouldn't voting on principles be the best choice?
By the way, your idea of voting for Saul over Satan is faulty since King Saul and Satan were equivalent. You may need to read up on a bit of Israel history there in 1 Samuel and the evil spirit that pestered King Saul.
On second thought, one could see that since Saul and Satan ended up the same, proves the conservatives point in the argument that you have Obama vs. Obama-lite both will take you to the same cliff.
I meant Saul as in Paul before he became Paul.. you could make the same point with this Saul as well with the diffence being that Saul became Paul.. Satan isn't becoming Christ..
Furthermore, your Non-Vote is just as much a vote for Obama as actually voting for him. Now I know all you "purists" think anyone other than maybe Reagan or Jesus is a vote for something, i'm not really sure what.. maybe you equate it to selling your soul to satan.. I'm not bestowing any candidate with the ability to fix man's problems. But we live in an age where we make progress by slowing the cancer's of the world, not removing it.. That's the crux of my point.. you CANNOT remove the cancer of this country or the world any more than we've been able to over the past 2000+ years. I'm NOT suggesting getting rid of principle.. or morals or your beliefs.. but when faced with adversity, one uses those principles to make the best decision they can given what their given. "Checkin Out" and deciding not to play is just quiting the fight, the cause, the principles.. Man wars aren't won with homeruns.. there won one battle at a time.. you win some and you lose some, but you have to make net progress.. Mitt winning the presidency is a nasty won small battle, but that's better than raising the white flag (or would it be black flag in this case) and handing the war over to the enemy.
I have just as much loathing for the government, the establishment, the "police state", etc as anyone on this blog, but I'm not gonna run home sulking because my guy didn't get the nod.. when the alternative is exponentially more of all this shite that I loathe..
gone under." - Ronald Reagan
You said "...there's a lot of you that have some sort of (I suppose) moral objection". You say you are a Christian but yet you suppose?
Did you take time to look at Romney's record on abortion and the gay activist agenda?
You are right- your comparison is not accurate- neither Saul nor Satan are running. Two people are running both of whose records plainly evidence who their father is, and it is not God. One is running on the ticket they belong on- Obama, the other is running on the ticket whose record does not match the platform- Romney.
Now my own family so far as I know is divided on their vote in the general. Every one should not go against the dictates of their own conscience. For me, that means if Romney becomes the nominee and chooses a running mate whose record shows he/she has not defended the unborn nor marriage, that means not voting for Romney, a man whom I believe, based on his record as governor, has the blood of innocent victims on his hands and promoted immorality being licensed as so-called marriage in MA.
God is in control of setting up rulers and taking them down. (Daniel 2:21, Romans 13:1) And if it comes down to these two choices for the people to vote for, it is further evidence of God no longer blessing America, a country that is wandering far from Him. I need not violate my conscience by voting for either one of them.
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."
John Adams
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams (The Works of John Adams, ed. C. F. Adams, Boston: Little, Brown Co., 1851, 4:31)
(source of above quotes) http://www.cancertutor.com/Quotes/Quotes_Presidents.html
"History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed in to political and economic decline." - Douglas MacArthur, Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in the Pacific during WWII
"If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation
(sources: http://www.thelandofthefree.net/quotationchristian.html)
If we cannot get to an open convention (though suspended, Rick is holding on to delegates right now to help with the platform. Santorum has enough contests won to be on the first ballot if God should work a miracle in those states yet to vote and Romney fails to get the number of delegates needed to wrap up the nomination). I am praying that Rick will win. But God may have Romney in store.
People becoming Christians, a great spiritual awakening from the dead in our nation brought about by Almighty God is the only solution I can see to keep this country from going into obscurity.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
"If religious books are not widely circulated among the masses in this country, I do not know what is going to become of us as a nation. If truth be not diffused, error will be; If God and His Word are not known and received, the devil and his works will gain the ascendancy, If the evangelical volume does not reach every hamlet, the pages of a corrupt and licentious literature will; If the power of the Gospel is not felt throughout the length and breadth of the land, anarchy and misrule, degradation and misery, corruption and darkness will reign without mitigation or end."
Daniel Webster
(source of above two quotes: http://www.cancertutor.com/Quotes/Quotes_Presidents.html)
Well, if my absentee ballot arrives, I will vote for someone still in the race not called Romney. But barring a miracle (yes I do believe their possible), I think we have to focus on eliminating Obama from our misery. Look I get that there's a lot of you that have some sort of (I suppose) moral objection to Romney.. that's fine. But when it comes to November ??, and I have to chose between Satan and Saul (yes I get your point, but neither really are Satan or Saul) then my conscience tells me that one is a direct path to hell, the other is a meandering one.. I may be half-way to dead, but my 4-year old son is not. And if it means prolonging the government, economic slavery, then that's my (and his) best option.
If you read anything I ever post, you're smart enought to see that I have no love for the government and it's slavery, our police state, the statists of our country or the fools who we produce like Peeps on Easter.. so I still fight the fight.. but I realize, both Religiously and Historically that great (or once great) civilizations don't turn the Titanic around.. I want to slow the roll, lessen the impact, etc.. and then hope that there are enough us with a conscience, morals, brains and individual ideals left to rebuild before the wolves of this sick society tear us to bits.
But look, I've asked this question to everyone who's responded in kind. WHO is our solution. Don't give me a nebulous "write in".. A write in is NO GOOD if we all write in different people or the write in has no interests (Reagan is not gonna do a Lazarus). If the answer is a brokered convention, or write-in, or 3rd Revolution, then lay out the plan, give me the leader. Hoping for a miracle won't produce an alternative (maybe praying for one will, but I'll still have a plan in case God's plan is to stay out of this one).
Ah, I took that you meant King Saul also.
So you would vote for a man when he zealously went after Christians and delighted in having them persecuted and heartily approved of their being put to death? You would vote for a man with blood on his hands, when he was a persecutor of Christ?
I am waiting to see Romney's running mate choice. But if that person does not have a proven record of fighting for the unborn and being in support of true marriage, I will vote for neither Obama nor Romney. I would hope to write someone's name who does. You say you are a Christian. Romans 14:23-
Hope you will not encourage anyone to go against their conscience.
And I hope you will not vote Romney in your primary.
http://wepickrick.net/profiles/blogs/can-your-vote-silence-be-bought
He's the nominee? why don't we just say he's the President and be done with all of the silly elections?
He stands against Obama. That will have to do for starters. If we give him a conservative House and Senate, he will do fine.
So what is your suggestion? Let Obama win a second term?
The primary is the time to fight it out. This primary went on much longer than most. I think you underestimate how many people haven't moved as far to the right as most of us here. It is a center-right country, and the reason Romney did better in the primaries than the caucuses is because the caucuses attract the activists rather than the average Republican.
I still think we have made progress. Romney is more conservative than John McCain was.
With Romney, we live to fight another day for a more conservative govt. With Obama, we get a "fundamentally transformed nation". No thanks.
I think the question should be, why do people that support Mitt Romney HATE conservatives?
I mean the NROs, Fox News, Ann Coulter, etc bashing of anyone but Mitt Romney?
I mean the Daily Caller's Tucker Carlson calling Sarah Palin a disgusting name?
Why do they not speak out when rules are broken to benefit him to obtain the nomination?
Or the silence of the entire party when Sarah Palin was blamed for the AZ shooting?
Why do they hate them with spreading of lies and name calling?
I am a huge Sarah Palin fan, but I can understand why she is not to everyone's liking. I don't think it is determinate of whether or not someone is a conservative.
Btw, what did Tucker call her?
No, I am just saying that being a Palin fan for president is not the determining factor. While I like her folksy ways, I don't blame anybody else that doesn't think she sounds like presidential material.
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