Colorado State Democrat Evie Hudak decided to go on a hypothetical journey and refute a rape victim’s testimony, telling her that because she was overpowered by her attacker, such that she couldn’t defend herself with her martial arts skills, the attacker would have likely taken her gun from her if she had one. The rape victim in this case, Amanda Collins, is one whose story you are already familiar with as she has become an advocate since her raped back in 2007.

Collins said in response that she is absolutely sure that if she had a concealed weapon, she would have been able to defend herself because she was there and she knows exactly what happened.

Watch (h/t: Fox Nation):

Honestly, I’m glad this Colorado Democrat spoke up and revealed what she was really thinking. It simply exposes how far she will go to rationalize her ideology, trying to use statistics and hypothetical situations instead of the reality that stares her in the face.




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ladyjk
ladyjk

This is another example just like NOW and other women's groups abandoned women to go along with democrats. I wonder how this woman would react if her daughter had been raped. To sit there and speak down to a raped victim who was there and knows the circumstances, went through the terrible ordeal, and has the strength to speak out for other women I find this poor excuse of a State Senator abominable. I hope the people of Colorado have the strength to vote her out.

amazed108
amazed108

This women is a perfect example of why abortion should be retroactive. She is telling this girl that essentially she would have been much better of if she would have just let this scum rape her than she would have been if she tried to defend herself. Where did she come up with that statistic. Women who try to defend themselves are 83 times more likely to be killed than if they don't try? Really? I'll bet that women on college campuses that never leave their dorms are able to survive 100% of the time. What a POS.

Paul Leslie
Paul Leslie

This democrat dingbat reveals who is actually conducting the war on women. The left's war is real. They want to make women nothing more than wards of the state, defenseless and available for men.

Charlie Soroka
Charlie Soroka

As Mr. La Pierre said on December 21 2012: The Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun, Is A Good Guy With A Gun.

Charlie Soroka
Charlie Soroka

Vote this moron out of office the next time this jerk comes up for re-election!

Jay
Jay

How dare Collins wish for a gun when it makes the collective uncomfortable.

friskyness
friskyness

When will the media and other dems mock her and tell her off, and end her career as they do with Republicans? I hope she gets it and gets it good from women all over the country and she is forced to apologize................or not run for re-election..........

学中文的美国男人
学中文的美国男人

And the Colorado Democrat is wrong?...

If she had been overpowered, it is very likely that she would have been disarmed.

Guns can't prevent all rapes. Guns can't prevent all crimes. In fact, very often, guns cause rapes and other crimes.

amazed108
amazed108

In answer to your question she is wrong and you are stupid.

BorntoSynthesize
BorntoSynthesize

She is wrong. She doesn't know what happened, and is bringing up an hypothetical to support her argument against conceal and carry. And as Ms. Collins stated, the attacker had a gun himself, so she was entirely vulnerable without a weapon and whether or not she could use a martial arts defense.

学中文的美国男人
学中文的美国男人

Exactly, this buffers my argument that guns can be used to commit crimes. The very fact that the attacker had a gun made it easier to rape her, and if he didn't have a gun, it would have been harder for him to do so.

BorntoSynthesize
BorntoSynthesize

Are you dense? If you're advocating no conceal and carry for everyone in this country, guess who will commit crimes with guns? With conceal and carry, it wouldn't have mattered if the attacker had a gun, at least the victim had a legitimate chance of protecting herself from rape.

12grace
12grace

But, if the victim of the rape had a gun it would have been next to impossible for him to rape her...

12grace
12grace

guns cause rapes ? What?

学中文的美国男人
学中文的美国男人

Conservatives just made the claim that guns can prevent rapes. They can. They can also cause rapes. Many people use guns to rape people or to accomplish other violent acts. A gun gives you power over a law abiding citizen.

12grace
12grace

And liberals think that if the government takes the guns away from the citizens that there will be no more crime and everyone will be safer.

Gun Control & Genocide

http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html

Nazi Regulations against Jews Possessing Firearms

http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/nazi-regulations-against-jews-possessing-firearms/

Was Hitler Really Anti-Gun Control?

http://libertarianstandard.com/2013/01/14/was-hitler-really-anti-gun-control

What Happens When

Citizens Guns

Are Taken Away

http://rense.com/general69/guns.htm

amazed108
amazed108

You should read the idiotic statement you just wrote. Do guns also cause global warming? I'll bet global warming causes rape in places like Chicago. At least some Dimocrats would have you believe that

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

A gun owned and carried by a law abiding citizen gives power over cowardly thugs.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

Didn't you know?

Guns cause shootings, cars cause traffic accidents, water causes drowning, belongings cause theft, prisons cause crime, pregnancy causes abortion, food causes fat, breathing causes lung cancer, writing causes 'typos' .............

You're just not thinking like a true liberal 'victim', you better get with it. You're depriving a liberal lawyer somewhere of a (dis)honest living.

;-) ;-)

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

"Cars DO cause many deaths. Water DOES cause people to drown sometimes. You are an idiot if you don't know about the dangerous related to auto accidents".

I'm the idiot? Cars do not cause deaths, guns do not cause crime, PEOPLE DO!

"You are really simple minded if this has to be explained to you..."

"That's why PEOPLE aren't allowed to drive 200 miles per hour on public roads."

Wether you recognize it or not, the operative word in your sentence is 'people'. You can 'regulate' every 'object' into oblivion if you chose but until you address the 'nut' behind the wheel and the 'nut' behind the gun, it's a complete waste of time.

学中文的美国男人
学中文的美国男人

Cars DO cause many deaths. Water DOES cause people to drown sometimes. You are an idiot if you don't know about the dangerous related to auto accidents. Did you ever think how badly someone could be hurt if they smash into another car at 200 miles per hour--or even 60 miles per hour for that matter. Of course, cars are necessary, but they are only necessary within a certain framework or regulatory provisions. That's why people aren't allowed to drive 200 miles per hour on public roads. The increase in danger would far outweigh the benefits in speed.

Do you know why so many criminals own guns? Because guns can kill people relatively easily. If a criminal points at gun at a law abiding citizen, it is very easily for them to coerce that citizen to give them money over the threat of their life. You are really simple minded if this has to be explained to you...

"Victim"? The girl who got raped by a violent thug is a victim. She's a victim of rape.

Biff Wellington
Biff Wellington

I'm not sold on that whole "a gun wouldn't have helped" concept. From where I sit, it seems fairly difficult, if not impossible, to continue a rape after your dick has been shot off. From the gun, stupid...

BorntoSynthesize
BorntoSynthesize

How arrogant and insulting for this woman to presume to know anything about what happened to Ms. Collins. I admire Ms. Collins for not jumping over the table and getting right in this idiot's face. And what then, Rep. Hudak? Nothing to protect you? Well get used to it, this is what you want for everyone else. Hypocritical dunce.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

We have been (liberally) programmed over the last few decades to cower in fear and wait for someone 'qualified' to come defend us. While that sounds good on paper, when you need help RIGHT NOW, 'qualified' protectors are only minutes away.

12grace
12grace

I wonder if Evie Hudak would have felt the same way about the rape if SHE were the one being raped!

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

'Rape' doesn't appear to be anything this old bat needs to concern herself with.

;-) ;-)

notsofastthere
notsofastthere

We are begging our servants (who swore to uphold the constitution) to allow us the right to defend ourselves in time of crisis. They say NO because it may make others around us uncomfortable and we can't be trusted.

We really shouldn't be begging the hired help for anything.

James
James

I would like to say we only have 46 months to go, but the way the republicans are looking i'm not so sure.

aposematic
aposematic

This Evie pol is stupid at best. If you are familiar with Ms. Collins account of the time leading up to the attack and rape, I'm sure she would have had her keys in one hand and the other on her concealed carry as she was aware of her vulnerability before the incident.

aposematic
aposematic

This Evie pol is stupid at best. If you are familiar with Ms. Collins account of the time leading up to the attack and rape, I'm sure she would have had her keys in one hand and the other on her concealed carry as she was aware of her vulnerability before the incident.

On The Mark
On The Mark

Statists give lame excuses to make women into rape and murder victims. Nothing better exemplifies the Left's War on Women.

On The Mark
On The Mark

Statists give lame excuses to make women into rape and murder victims. Nothing better exemplifies the Left's War on Women.

DCGere
DCGere

Why are liberals so quick to be a victim? Like the woman who said she'd rather die than defend herself in Atlanta. Boggles the mind...

DCGere
DCGere

Why are liberals so quick to be a victim? Like the woman who said she'd rather die than defend herself in Atlanta. Boggles the mind...

toongoon
toongoon

Am I being too forward or is it OK to assume that we need our guns to protect us from being raped by Democrats who think like this?

jgilman1
jgilman1

When are we going to get angry at being told what statistically is or isn't reality.

Sonnyjelly1
Sonnyjelly1

Are thes people in Colorado that stupid to elect this idiot Hudak? They want to sell pot and take away your guns. does that make sense?

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

I'm sorry but this stupid wench needs to live through one before she can tell a rape victim that a gun wouldn't have saved her from it.

You guys ought to know, I am having to tie my fingers together to keep them from typing what my mind is calling this hateful hag right now. There's not enough @^&#@% buttons to describe this @*&!^@%@!!

toongoon
toongoon

Wear mittens, at least then it will be illegible. ;-)

Wolfie
Wolfie

We all hear ya loud and clear... and agree!

James1754
James1754

Oh, by the way, those statics that fool quoted were lies made up by the anti-gun folks.

stage9
stage9

You mean "gun confiscation advocates".

sjmom
sjmom

Wasn't Salazar from Colorado also???? Must be either the Rocky Mountain air or the water. Shame on this woman!

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

I have a 2nd degree blackbelt in the martial arts. As a result, after years of training, I feel fairly confident of my ability to reasonably defend myself in case of attack. I have also taught multiple self-defense classes for women and have a small piece of insight to share.

Women are not as strong as men - relatively speaking (and I'm speaking about raw, brute strength). The average weight of women I worked with range in weight from 115 to around 140+. The average men I trained with weighed around 160 - 250. The disparity in weight and of course physics, automatically gives men an advantage (in most cases).

That being said, there are many women who I've worked with who are more physically fit than most men, many are better martial artists than most men of comparable level (their technique and precision is sharper and crisper), and many take their training more seriously than men in the same age range and belt level. Women may also be faster in many cases.

As we develop in the martial arts, we encourage an awareness of our environment, our surroundings, and we teach everyone to "carry" oneself a certain way to be "ready" if attacked. Miss Collins may have had the same posture and awareness. But attackers rarely come from the front... they often attack from behind or from a blind spot, or even from out of a concealed location. Even Bruce Lee would have a hard time being ready 24/7 for all contingencies.

I firmly believe and support the idea of conceal and carry (such as hiding a weapon in a boot for instance). It's logical and it's an instant equalizer. One other point... many of my students already carried mace or a keychain "weapon" that they could use for defense... that only works at closer ranges. And we teach our students to fight just enough to briefly incapacitate the attacker and if possible, run away. A gun once again gives a victim a fighting chance whether on the ground or after breaking the attack and being several feet back.

Democrats and this blithering idiot have no idea what they are talking about. I'd love to tear into this woman and share some of the stories I've heard - especially about why some of my female students were taking our class. My kinder, civil suggestion is to put her in gun training and/or self-defense training and let her see how a gun can help and how helpless she would be if "buried" under the weight of a heavy man. It would immediately open her eyes.

Let me finish by saying, I believe that anyone, with proper training, has the ability to protect him/herself from nearly anyone with their martial art... but it has to be practiced in real-world situations to help provide calm and experience in order to be employed effectively when attacked. I'm not contradicting myself from earlier in this post. In a "fair fight", I would go with the martial artist 100% of the time. But in an unfair attack (and they always seem to be unfair) by an opponent with superior weight, strength, and evil intent... anyone would be hard pressed to defend him/herself. Think about what happened to Treyvon when he tested the theory of a victim with a gun. Tragic as it was... we should learn from its effectiveness.

Nukeman60
Nukeman60

Excellent post.

When I took self-defense in College, my first question to my instructor was "What is the best defense against a knife?". His answer stuck with me to this day. He said "if possible, run away. Otherwise a gun is the best defense against a knife."

Avoiding the confrontation is always the best remedy, but whatever equals the odds is a good solution, in my book.

DCGere
DCGere

My trainer, a county SWAT team member, said the same thing. The only equalizer for a woman (who are inherently not as strong as men) is a gun. Avoid if possible yet be prepared to shoot to defend yourself.

stage9
stage9

I don't think your training could save a democrat's life. They love being victims too much.