I live here and am planning my exit, the exodus from California has been unbearable. It is unfortunate that the beautiful state of Colorado has gone to the left coast. I am still looking for the state that secedes the union and I am there otherwise it looks like Texas!
Guns?
Now Colorado offers drug tourism!
Pot tourism in Colo.? Marijuana regulators OK idea
This is going to be a great example of the utter bankruptcy of the libertarian idea that legalizing drugs will reduce crime.
They trashed southern California, then went on the run to Colorado and Arizona, like locusts destroying everything in their path.
The Colorado legislature will do more to popularize rape as a new intercollegiate sport than old Ted Bundy ever could.
I expect that the Campus Book Stores are about to experience a virtual Katrina of demand for IPECAC. I picture little bottles that attach to your key chain that your can squirt into your mouth when attacked that are electronically wired emit a terrified female screaming noise when squeezed.
Should be no time at all that IPECAC is available in a capsule form that can be carried comfortably in the cheek, then bitten into when ever the rapist attacks.
Don't you just love how incredibly stupid liberals, socialists, communists, progressives and the CBC members are? I mean now that ethnic humor is illegal and Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck have been prohibited from political commentary.
Eh...What's up Duck?
Two words for what's coming, guys.
Civil. War.
The liberal cowards and fools will keep at it until the country explodes.
Chuck Norris summed it up in five words; 'A Thousand Years of Darkness'. Coming soon to a planet near you.
I am glad I did not have children.
I watched the 5 vids on the Battle of Antietam last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1aZQ_WVyG0
Saw the Mathew Brady photos of the men killed in the cornfield and the sunken road. Its fearsome. Civil war is not pretty, but those men died for a belief. There were no trophies, no territories, no gold to be won. Those men stood their ground, fought and killed for what they believed in.
I can have no better death than that, no matter what my colon and his evil cohorts, my arteries, believe. Give me liberty or prepare for rage.
If you do this you're going to have to deal with all sorts of things on the horizon...
MAV technology on the horizon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YkQ9w3PJ4
This isn't 1776. Technology has obviously vastly improved since then. There will be more to war than simply fighting with AR-15's and Glock pistols. There is heavy armor, advanced infantry and special operations elements, sophisticated air assets including gunships, fixed wing aircraft, highly intelligent missile and rocket assets, drone technology, highly advanced operational command centers equipped with satellite surveillance systems that will make large-scale organizational and logistical planning difficult if not impossible.
It's truly a David vs Goliath scenario!
Even Levin noted the other day that the federal government has countermeasures in place for such events.
No, this effort, hypothetically speaking, would have to be supported by many local and state governments to provide the massive amounts of resources and organizational assets needed to deter the federal government from imposing its will. And I don't think that would happen unless things got really bad.
State succession isn't a good idea either. Because once you disconnect from the federal government and become an independent nation/state, what will you do militarily to defend yourself? Where will you receive the armament necessary? How will trade and commerce be regulated? Will you write a new Constitution? How will you organize surrounded by a hostile and much larger army/armies? Will you ally with Mexico or some other nation for assistance? maybe the drug cartels?
Allied forces are a major aspect of war. Libertarians hate allies, so don't count on them to help attain any. But fighting a prolonged war against a much more heavily supplied enemy requires massive amounts of resources and money. Even fighting the British on our own soil required assistance from France in firepower, manpower and capital.
This talk of "civil war" is a great way to vent, but there's more that goes into all of this than just rising up in the streets or buying some army surplus to fill a bug out bag. If you commit to this there will be massive loss of life on your side, and there is no going back once it begins.
Liberals have spent years planing their insurrection. If you're serious then you will have to be equally vigilant and move beyond simply whining on a message board.
Sound like you are starting to work out things for yourself and that's good.
Have you picked out a first strike target when confiscation is announced or do you plan to wait and go just mano a mano with you local sheriff on your porch? Have you pictured fellow Americans looking back at your though that 4 x 12?
I think posting on a message board right now is pretty important, depending on what message you are sending. Thanks my friend!
I'm right there with you.
My great grandaddy didn't come over here because he wanted to live in a gilded go**mn cage.
I'm the same way. I don't understand surrendering everything fought for, every thing we ARE, so some saps will feel safe or whatever.
Fu*k every lily livered, chickensh*t piece of crap that's done this thing. May every liberal a**hole in this world rot in hell. May I get to help a bunch of them along.
Sorry, guys. I'm somewhat pi**ed off. Ever since that so called election I've wanted to, well.....I think you all know.
Sorry about the rant.
some of us are looking for the exit, its a beautiful state with great hunting and mountains but the lib filth in Denver has corrupted our state.
I guess I've spent my last dime in the state of Colorado. It was a great place to vacation.
Never been there,and unfortunately now I may never go there,unless things change.
Men in Colorado are weak like the Columbine and Aurora shooters, pathetic, effeminate, stoned, ignorant, easily fooled and weak. Women have always controlled Colorado culture. I think it must be something in the water...
The senate in Colorado won't be the final stop.The SCOTUS will be the final stop.
Can't depend on SCOTUS look at Roberts and Obamacare, constitution does not mean much to them.
A valid point,but there are already two cases on the books where the SCOTUS has upheld the 2nd.There is a precedence.
If there was such a thing like truth in labeling, this should be titled the "safely commit a crime with a gun encouragement act of 2013".
And none of this, NONE OF IT, will change how many people are killed by guns or the availablity of guns to criminals. Mexico as a nation has very strict gun control. And how's that working out for them? Oh, that's right, they're losing thousands of people each year murdered by rival drug gangs. Yep, those nasty old guns sure are to blame for all of this. We keep talking about the symptoms of a problem, but we never try to cure the disease, and gun violence has a lot of different reasons for it, as is evident in places like Chicago. But you'll never get liberals to admit that, so the problem will never, ever, be resolved.
Pick the gun owners off, one state at a time.
Gun owners took the wait and see attitude. Ha, ha, ha, it can't happen here.
Now they're in disbelief and probably saying "we gotta do something"
Too Late for Colorado folks - damage is done. The lesson of Chicago just wasn't enough.
Even if the representatives are voted out - the law will stand and never be rescinded.
I don't think this will make any difference. What good are 30 round magazines when you can't find any ammo. That, I think, was what O'Barry was talking about when he said he was working under the radar on gun control. We will have to use our rifles as clubs if there isn't any ammo for them. Mental image of Fess Parker as Davy Crockett at the Alamo in the Walt Disney classic.
The Republican congress can defund HHS hording ammunition and a whole bunch of crap, but they aren't.
We've got a serious problem in this country.
An example of "stupid": In order to control crime the State enacts new regulations on legal gun owners. When crime does not decrease then the State enacts even MORE regulations on legal gun owners. When that doesn't work the State demands gun registration by legal gun owners.... then confistication...
Go after criminals with guns, not legal gun owners. Tact on 10-15 years to a criminal's sentence for using a gun in commission of a crime.
Institutionalize the mentally ill where needed.
If lawmakers think that passing more gun laws on legal gun owners will decrease crime by criminals and the mentally ill they are either super stupid or want to grab guns via confistication.
Thank you. This gun control nonsense drives me nuts.
You and I and all law abiding citizens should be able to buy a ANY firearm of our choice whenever we want without licencing etc... without INFRINGEMENT.
We are losing the 2nd Amendment bit by bit.
More feel good legislation, more gun free zones, more unarmed people at the mercy of the criminal who will never obey any law.
But we are doing this for;
1) The safety of the children
2) To protect people from themselves(see Representative Joe Salaza remarks about women)
3) So people can feel safer(though they will not be).
4) Because it is the right thing to do(according to liberal dogma)
5) We need to stop the violence(though none of these bills will have any effect on crime).
6) You do not need guns to defend yourself, you can just wait for them to reload and use ball point pens(Senator Jessie Ulaberri)
I allways wunted to be a kriminol when I groo up.
If stuff like this spreads to my state or to the Fed. I are one.
I was watching Sun New Network this morning (www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/) and there was a news report about an owner of a small restaurant, who was about to be robbed. The owner threw some exotic spice at the gunman's face, which made him very uncomfortable, and he ran away, with the owner in pursuit.
Guess what? The owner was charged with assault.!!!!!
It seems Canada has its kooks too. It took place in Toronto, Ontario.
Hopefully, that sort of thing isn't found all over in Canada.
The authorities in this world are nuts. No wonder so many people disrespect them.
those poor people up there need to buy a butcher knife and a pig, chop, chop and feed Arnold Ziffel
That does happen too much there and I've heard of similar things in Britain too where people are charged or sued even for defending their property and injuries are "suffered" by the thugs. It's pitiful.
This one from 2 years ago comes to mind: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/01/22/canadian-man-charged-after-using-gun-to-defend-his-home-from-firebombers/
That is insane! Good people defending their livelihood are punished and the criminal is held up as a "victim." It's just not right! :-(
Yup....insane. I talked to my local policeman (small town in northern PA.) about my 9mm, keeping it locked up, the castle doctrine, telling any burglers/intruders to stop, etc, generally asking advice how to handle that type of thing. This seems kind of crude but I'm a Vietnam vet, it doesn't bother me. He said, if possible, make sure you are close enough to inflict powder burns (about 10 ft) as that always helps investigators. You no longer have to 'take a step back', just put them down....ie minimum of 2 rounds in the chest, 1 in the head......eliminates any questions or lawsuits. :)
Not one measure in the bills will reduce the probability of another mass shooting by any measurable metric! This only makes life harder for the law abiding citizen who wants to buy a gun to protect him or herself from attack by CRIMINALS who get their guns the criminal way to begin with! C'mon Dems! Even YOU should see this for the BS that it really is?!
I think they see it just fine. Gotta disarm the opposition. Holder and O' can then run guns into the inner cities. You know, their people.
i just forwarded this to my little girl. i suggested that she move back home or cross the red river and move to texas. she move to rocky mountain state last year
i just forwarded this to my little girl. i suggested that she move back home or cross the red river and move to texas. she move to rocky mountain state last year
I hope that some dem Senators in Colorado are being informed about the economic consequences in voting for that bill. It's not just manufacturers closing down their premises and moving away, with job losses - there may be high bills to pay for the law suits to come.
That's just too much like common sense - ergo they'll never "get it." They will simply hike taxes to make up for the "shortfall" as a result of these misguided idiotic "laws"
That's just too much like common sense - ergo they'll never "get it." They will simply hike taxes to make up for the "shortfall" as a result of these misguided idiotic "laws"
People control. The people in Colorado who support this are blind pitiful fools. I do hope there are a few more in their Senate who aren't power drunk un Constitutional a$$es.
More mass shootings, coming to a gun free zone near you.
Way to attract more violent criminals into your state.
As to banning private sales of firearms, you are going to enforce that how?
And the Dem legislators have made it clear that they are living in gun free zones. I pity their spouses and children if a perp comes a knocking.
of course "registration"! - a "must" before confiscation.
Feinstein, the idiotess;
“To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.”
Before they can confiscate, they must create a registry. Feinstein proposes to:
Force owners of ALL "grandfathered" weapons to undergo an intrusive background check and fingerprinting, then federally register their guns after obtaining a permission slip from local law enforcement showing their guns are not in violation of state or local
law
Ban the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of 120 specifically named rifles, shotguns and handguns
Ban the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of all firearms with a detachable magazine and at least one "military” or “assault” characteristic — which could mean just about anything that the anti-Second Amendment crowd says is too scary
Ban the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of magazines holding more than 10 rounds
The writing is on the wall, and the time to resist compliance with lunacy is not when they come to kick down your door and get your guns or whatever it may be, but long before.
They don't need this information. Innocent until proven guilty.

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