The Right Scoop
Utah, if a report is to be belived, is very pro gun.
https://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=24149758
On the other hand, one ex-coastie and ex-pro gun friend is making a distinction between the crimiinal and the crazy -- saying that while the criminal can work the streets and get illegal guns, the crazy is less able to function in society, and less able to do the same.
what do you expect when a pea-brain at DailyKos says this:
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The constitutional right to own and carry firearms, now encoded in the United States thanks to the judicial activism of the right wing extremists of the Roberts Court, is unique among economically developed democratic nations. It stands in bloody contrast to the evolution of humanity, with all other economically developed democracies strictly regulating private ownership of firearms, and in some cases effectively banning it. But for now, in the United States, the individual right to own and carry firearms is a constitutional right. And yet, even in the United States, it is a unique constitutional right. It is an anomaly both among economically developed democracies and it is an anomaly among constitutional rights in the United States. It is, in fact, an abomination.
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well, we know they don't care about the US constitution - just the Soviet one.
Alfonzo Rachel nails it again but you're going to have to subscribe to PJTV (like I do) to see it. :-(
Unless Scoop want's to link it here.
Just exactly how do they think they are going to stop private sales? They can't stop illegals guns now!
Absolute idiots.
...isn't TYRANNY GREAT ! N O T ! I can hardly wait for the 2014 mid term elections it will be our last stand as LIBERTY PATRIOTS for if we do not rally the base to get out on VOTE in 2014 ,"THIS COUNTRY IS LOST." (period)
Make no mistake, the NRA will challenge most of the restrictions in court especially the banning of private sales. As for the rest of it, well, you Coloradans allowed this via the elections so you'll have to live with it.
As I understand it, that is exactly what is happening now. Manufacturers are leaving (or say they will leave) the state as a result of this "law". Wonder if we can woo them to NC - we need the jobs.
As I understand it, that is exactly what is happening now. Manufacturers are leaving (or say they will leave) the state as a result of this "law". Wonder if we can woo them to NC - we need the jobs.
Let them pass this.
And when another shooting happens, perhaps we can rise up and say once and for all, THAT DOESN'T WORK!
It's infuriating how it seems we always lose the arguments on issues we're most passionate about.
There is no memory among the masses beyond a few weeks, unless the propaganda media provides it.
I'm looking at real estate this morning in Galveston-been in CO for over 40 years and it's sickening what I've seen happen here.
I've been looking for AR-15 lowers. I just ordered some from the link blow - new old stock less than 200 available. I have never ordered form them before but AR lowers are hard to find. THEY WILL NOT LAST LONG. $190 (retail new was $175)
For those of you not familiar with ARs, the lowers are the critical AR part you have to buy through an FFL. All the other parts to build an any type/budget AR15, are available without background checks through thousands of suppliers. It cannot hurt to have a few AR loewrs stuffed away for future needs.
They will take your order and contact you later for an FFL to ship to - very easy process to find FFLs if you have never done it. Usually any local gin shop.
This on look to be multi-caliber for .223/5.56, 9mm and 45ACP
http://www.outdoordealnetwork.com/collections/frontpage/products/ar-15-sabre-defense-poly-lowers
The are Sabre Defense and appear to have been made by Cav Arms, both military suppliers.
some info here on ar15 dot com
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/416085_.html
and here
http://packpractical.com/reviews/cavarms.php
I recall Mike saying here on TRS he does not like the polymer lowers but I cannot find any real disadvantage over the aluminum lowers and quite a few advantages. Here is an interesting story:
http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ar-15-talk/91141-damage-testing-polymer-lower-ar.html
I've no interest her other than an FYI. I know nothing about any of these companies>. I suggest you do you own research
Will not help if people just don't obey the law. Same thing happened during Prohibition. If people just don't pay any attention to the law, how will either the state or the Federal government enforce it? They can't put the whole country in jail, or even a major part of it (as was the case during Prohibition). If they are silly enough to pass this law, I just think people will ignore it, especially those who live on ranches and farms.
The thing that will always be a part of American history is we become complacent and allow liberals to erode our freedoms. We wake up and stop their ignorance and move on. Gun control may be that awakening. The democrats in Colorado, feeling they are so much smarter than their constituents, will go as far as their voters will let them. Flush the heathens and elect representives to repeal and bring order to your state. Unless the people do that, they deserve what ever subservience the libearls impose on them.
first, sorry for the caps, but this is important!
IF NOT YOU, WHO?! IF NOT NOW, WHEN?!
DAY OF RESISTANCE SATURDAY FEBRUARY 23RD! for locations go to:
dayofresistance.com
you DO NOT need to log in, go to the bottom of the page and click on 'official rally list' for locations.
Blatant disregard for the U.S. Constitution.
This is going to blow up in their faces in a huge way.
This will go all the way to the Supreme Court if it passes. I hope all this backfires. Rat B@stards!
I don't understand.If gun rights come from the Bill of Rights than how can states issue there own laws in this arena.It is no different than states not being allowed to have their own immigration laws.Enough with this assault on our Second Amendment rights!This is a God given right,not a right issued by the state!
These democrats are outlaws! typical democrats willing to violate their oath of office and should be removed from office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP7oEwST0-w
Who would have thought that Colorado would end up being a Communist State? Is Utah next? Did the illegals put these Communists in power?
One consequence of that law has been published on the weekend:
"""FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
MAGPUL INDUSTRIES ANNOUNCES IT WILL LEAVE COLORADO IF GUN BILL PASSES
MOVE WOULD COST STATE 600 JOBS, $85 MILLION
Denver, Colorado – February 15th, 2013 - Magpul Industries, an Erie, Colorado, based manufacturer of firearms accessories, announced today that it will be forced to leave the state if House Bill 1224, which would ban standard capacity magazines, becomes law. The announcement was made to Governor Hickenlooper, state legislators, members of the media, and in a full-page advertisement to appear in the Denver Post on Sunday."""
Read the rest here:
PRAVDA & GUN RIGHTS
The English version of Pravda (yeah it’s still around) thought it necessary to remind us of the historical fact that in 1917 the first move the Red Army made was to take away all privately held guns. This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently. . Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or "talking to them", it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.
The root of the problem is that they got away with establishing the precedent that rights are not unalienable, and this is one of the results of that.
I also find that a big problem is how people are only trying to "defend" gun rights, rather than "demanding" gun rights be restored. If you're always on the defensive, rather than offensive, then you're going to get hit and go down eventually.
That's for sure. The best way to lose a war is to let the enemy keep you on the defensive.
And people may just be reaching the breaking point- see my post below about the Resistance Rallies next Saturday.
Very much on point Kordane. I suggest the good people of Colorado legally go after the individuals that are pushing to take away their second amendment rights.
Take the battle to their front yard, make them out to be criminal they are, hold them accountable in the court of public appeal.
The left does this constantly, and gets away with it, such as protestors at the homes of bank managers… Well what is good for the goose and all that…
"First they come for the guns, then they'll come for your pot", that should get some action started… LOL!
YO Father Time..."First they come for the guns, then they`ll come for your pot"....PRICELESS !!!! HEADSNAPS ABOUND THROUGHOUT HILLSIDES....
Exactly, get their attention!
"How will you protect your pot when they come for it? Support gun rights!", these are the signs people need to make, link the two if needed to gain support, works for the left… LOL
Another reason for me not to live in Colorado. Lived there once, but it became too expensive to stay. Moved to Wyoming. Love it in Wyoming and am staying put. They seem to care about the Constitution in Wyoming more than the authoritarian loons in Colorado do. If I want to go to Colorado for any reason, it's only less than a two hour drive to Denver for me.
Spent most of last year in Wyoming. Stayed in Rawlins, worked at BP Wamsutter. Wide open spaces with warmhearted and friendly Patriots !!!
Glad you enjoyed your stay! Thank you! The same can be said of Texas. If only Austin and Houston could be their own states, that would carve out a huge chunk leftists loons there.
Rep Fields: most of these shooters were Democrats... ban Democrats from getting guns.
On the subject of gun control and resistance thereof, are any here going to the Resistance Rallies on the 23rd?
I'm thinking about going to the one in Kirkland, WA and was wondering if any posters here would also be there.
GREAT IDEA. I haven`t heard anything about the RR But Am ALL FOR IT !! PLEASE TELL US MORE !!!!
May I ask an unrelated question here? (My work schedule doesn't put me here at regular times much.) Did anyone here review Allen West's new show -- "Next Generation" yet? Don't we need to support him? I have looked but didn't find..
Thx Tex. appreciate your comments.
Have a look at 2ndenforcers.org
It seems militia groups are forming, around the country. This is one is in Washington state. For now, the goal is peaceful rallies, and organized protest of bad legislation (you can see a call to fight a crappy piece of legislation in WA right now on their website). They only started organizing last month, and this group calls itself 2nd Enforcers.
Follow the links and you will find a list of rally sites all over the country on the 23rd of this month. Last I saw there were over 50,000 people coming. Everyone here, check it out. It is on the anniversary of the flag raising on Iwo Jima, and the caliber of the 5.56 mm- .223. The stated purpose of the rallies is to resist obama’s plans and intentions for us all.
The organizers are suggesting bringing signs done on poster board, and dressing well (no camos, etc.).
So it begins.
All you gun owners in CO that vote democrat? YOU DESERVE IT!
Tancredo would never sign such a bill. TOO LATE NOW!
What the hell happened to Colorado? As part of the Rocky Mountain west it used to be a decent state. Now it seems like it belongs with the pinheads on the west coast or in the NE. Very, very sad.
Obama wants to protect little kids by taking guns away from good guys. How about disarming gangs that kill kids. Just saying don't take offense I think all kids need to be protected. But honest law-abiding gun owners should not be blamed.
Good luck tomorrow Colorado
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