The Right Scoop
This ruling emboldens those anti-gay marriage supporters. As long as people know that gay marriage forces people into contracts that violate their choices, there will be a good point to be made against gay marriage and it won't pass very easily.
Pray for a successful appeal. This ruling is not only morally an outrage, it is legally wrong too. It violates the First Amendment. Wake up people to the importance of the judiciary, which has been highjacked by judges who don't care at all about the law they swore to uphold, only about their personal agendas which are evil
If the photo studio is forced to film the next gay "union" against their beliefs, they should be able to wear clothing and accessories that express their beliefs at the "union" during filming in direct confrontation.
AS a Christian, I (can) make you aware of: the wages of sin is death, but If I choose to do so or not, is up to me. The judge in this case should have not ruled as done. I hope it gets overturned.
The logic in your argument in favor of blatant discrimination has not, does not, will not, cannot hold up in a court of law where rationality trumps assertions of tradition. You'll have to get a new grip on reality.
Militant gays have a three-fold agenda: acceptance, recruitment and the silencing of all opposition, especially religious. The rest just want have a good time and (self-redacted.)
Gays being ayholes again. Just gotta keep crammin' stuff where it don't belong. If they thought with their brains instead of whatever is between their legs, they's see that all they have to do is wait. In enough time, everything weird (even gayness) enters the mainstream. Just look around. People are being stupid all over the place. It's a sad day in America when it takes a court (obviously digustingly liberal) to go after a legitimate business owner because one of their potential customers didn't like how they run their own business. Hey! Perverts. If you don't like it, go up the street (which you did). There will be somebody to help you further your beliefs. But don't cry when someone else stands up for their own beliefs. Can't stand that can you? Take it to the courts like the weinies you are (in your case, the weinies you wish you had). Whatever happened to the all American boycott? If you don't like how someone runs their business, don't give them yours. Tell your friends. Spread the word. Do it the right way. Don't run to teacher crying like a couple of lesbians.
I agree completely. Why couldn't they have just gone to another photographer? So I have to respect your beliefs (being gay is normal) but you don't have to respect mine (Christian values)?
And whatever happened to "We reserve the right to refuse business to anyone" that I've seen on scores of restaurants and the like. I'd put that one the front window.
Unreal....so now what is the court forcing them to do?
Truth is, I believe, these homosexuals deliberately went to this studio knowing they would be rejected by the owners based on their faith. This is their tactic - to create controversy. The greatest enemy in this battle is not the homosexuals because they are relatively few, but the God rejecting heterosexuals who support them in their cause.
Miss USA pageant co-owner Donald Trump threatens to sue after Miss Pennsylvania resigns
Sheena Monnin resigned from the Miss USA pageant Monday, one day after it aired on television, charging that the beauty competition is fixed and calling it "trashy" and "fraudulent.”
Miss USA organizers say the dark-haired beauty tossed in her crown because she opposed the organization's decision to allow transgender contestants.
Miss Universe to allow transgender contestants
lets see... 2% to 4% of the populating get to have power over the 96% because they do what to one another and they mock God by what they do and then tell us we have to except them and welcome them with open butts...I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!! maybe it time we start suing them for spreading STD's(AIDS) all over the place and endangering the population...MAYBE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT...after all they (libscums) are trying to control everything we eat.. say... drive... ride...drink...just maybe we need to control these poor people(animals) who can't or won't control there lust for the same sex...how about controlling the homosexual with maybe some kind of gene therapy you know the kind of thing the Dept.of Defense wants to do on religious people...you know the God Gene(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMlbsL1QkEc) hey lets do it to them...just saying whats good for the goose is good for the other goose...
"This is exactly one of the big reasons I oppose gay marriage or civil unions because when a gay person gains the right to enter into a legal union then a Christian business loses the right to disagree and is in turn discriminated against. And that’s exactly what is going on here"
Well, of course, they do. The only thing the news mafia has done via their "news reporting" is get people to swap prejudices one for another.
Police link Vancouver body parts to Montreal dismemberment suspect
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/world/americas/canada-body-parts-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
What CNN won't tell you is that:
"The arrest – which took place in an area known for its gay bars and sordid sex joints – brought an end to an international trawl spanning thousands of miles and two continents."
The top six U.S. male serial k i l l e rs were all g ay :
• Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky;
• John Wayne Gacy r a p ed and k i l l ed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and in his yard;
• Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after s e x and leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways;
• Bruce Davis m o l e s t ed and k i l l ed 27 young men and boys in Illinois;
• A g a ys ex-m u r d er-t o r t u re ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to their grave; and
• Juan Corona was convicted of m u r d e r i ng 25 migrant workers (he “made love” with their c o r p s es).
L e s b i an Aileen Wuornos laid claim in 1992 to “worst female k i l l er” with at least 7 middle-aged male victims. She singlehandedly topped the l e s b i a n nurse team of Catherine Wood and Gwen Graham, who had k i l l ed 6 convalescent patients in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
A study of 518 s e x u a l ly-tinged mass m u r d e rs in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were k i l l ed by those who practiced h o m o s e x u a l i ty and that 19 (44%) of the 43 m u r d e r e rs were b i s e x u a ls or h o m o s e x u a ls.
This is a really informative post and completely believable given the spread of AIDS and pateint zero. This cases follow a similar path. This also shows, in my opinion, that homosexuality should be also classified as a mental disorder. On Rush's show on Monday he shared data that says about 1% to 3% of the population is gay. So why would we turn the laws of marriage and family up side down for 3% of the population? I mean who does that! It is ridiculous what we have allowed these sicaphants to so to us and our country.
G-dang it... By that standards, unless I'm super careful... I (or at lest my website company) could be next in line... I assume that all Christians who have a business and are reading this post... take the "appropriate" step to stay in business!! Sad as it is...
Next step: The Supreme Court. This person's religious rights have been violated and the Alliance Defense Fund should take the case all the way to SCOTUS. " ...nor prohibit the free excercise therof" is still the supreme law of the land.
The tail is wagging the dog; and the world is attempting to tell God what is right and wrong. Long ago there was a shepherd boy named David who brought food to his brothers in battle and asked: "Is there not a cause?" (1Sam 17:29) Just as King David we must rise up for do we not have a cause????? God bless the Alliance Defense Fund.
Wouldn't you think a "gay couple" wuld want a photographer who hadn't been forced to provide his services? We hear enough about wedding pics that turn out poor because the photographer did a bad job. Imagine the lawsuit if these pic are bad?
I can hardly wait for the lawsuit onces a gay photographer refuses to photograph a straight wedding.
What's good for the goose...
"That decision against Elane Photography upholds a lower court ruling that said the photo studio is considered a public accommodation, similar to a restaurant or store."
No. It's not. It's a private business.
This is ridiculous. Even a *public accommodation" like a convenience store or a restaurant can refuse service to whomever it chooses. We have all seen signs posted in stores and restaurants that say "No shirt, no shoes, no service". Aren't they discriminating against those whose lifestyle choice is to go barefoot or barechested? Good grief.
I'm beginning to suspect some of these people are **choosing** to live a gay lifestyle because of the special treatment they can demand.
This issue hits right home with me too. I am also a photographer and I wouldn't accept a gay wedding either. I believe homosexuality is immoral and i would be a hypocrite to go make money on something I believe is immoral. That would be flat out immoral earnings, same reason why prostitution is not taxed in many countries because it's immoral income.
If people want to do stuff in the privacy of their own home that's their business but I don't have to celebrate it.
As for the argument ‘just say you aren’t available on that day‘, I agree with what Scoop wrote but also, clients don't usually call up saying "hay are you available for a gay wedding?" Usually people call up and ask "Do you do weddings? Are you available on this or that date?" The photographer may only learn of it being a "gay" wedding once they have confirmed they are available and sometimes even only later on after discussing the project with the client.
"That would be flat out immoral earnings, same reason why prostitution is not taxed in many countries because it's immoral income."
Not anymore!
Ontario Court of Appeal greenlights brothels, sweeps aside many of Canada’s anti-prostitution laws
You should be able to pull out of a potential contract at any time you become uncomfortable... Within the law... I'm right there with you... I create Christian websites... And I have to carefully navigate the minefield to find those who are truly Christian and want a web presence... And those who are "Liberal activists" using religion as a Trojan horse to get their liberal agenda past me.
We will be seeing more and more of this as time goes by. Thank you for having the courage to speak up.
You can see the writing on the wall. If a Christian business person cannot act according to his conscience in matters of moral consequence, it's easy to see how Christian business people will find themselves without any business at all, as they will become overwhelmed by lawsuits and forced to close.
For years Christians have been sending an alarm about the consequences of validating the homosexual lifestyle, and year after year we're told, "social issues don't matter", and "I don't care what they do so long as they don't bother me."
Well, this is yet another clear example that social issues DO MATTER!
How could gay marriage harm anyone? FIND OUT!:
CHRISTmas is going to be GREAT!!! The defeat of Lucifer... er... liberalism... they played their trump cards and LOST!!! God will prevail... America will prevail... I'm looking forward to November! How many libtards can you find that agree? None! LOL!! We see a DAWN!!! they seen a sinking of the Titanic "Libtard Obama"!
"where freedom of religion is established in our Constitution. "
Exactly. But the marxist-freaks have twisted everything around so that it's as if there is freedom of homosexuality established in the Constitution that trumps every other right/freedom. And why are businesses and politicians caving in to this? Just to avoid being subjected to the evil name-calling and harassment of the homos for daring to oppose them? Talk about spineless.
Aren't there any gay photography studios in New Mexico? These businesses need to learn how to play the game. If they don't want to serve someone for whatever reason (I've seen businesses with signs that say pull up your pants or no admittance), then in this case they should have said, I'm sorry we're all booked up or given any reason then the one they gave. In any case, what happened to "we have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason"?
To quote myself:
But why should I have to lie? Why should I have to dodge the truth simply to avoid a lawsuit? After all, this is America, where freedom of religion is established in our Constitution. I should be able to say without fear of being discriminated against that I only photograph traditional weddings and I should not be forced by law to photograph gay ceremonies.
Christians are such easy targets. I wonder if a gay couple would go into a muslim studeo, or if a court would side with the muslims.
Christians to not toss gays off of cliffs or tall buildings. Nobody is tossed off St Peters.
But in Islamic nations gays are killed just for being gay.
while I don't agree with this studeo in any way, I will defend that photographers first amendment right to refuse service based on his/her religious convictions.
No more than I would support a doctor's refusal to perform an abortion if it violated his moral code or religious conviction.
as a matter of fact, I am a while make physician and work in an area with lots of muslims and time and again I am at the receiving end of " no males allowed" into a woman's room. It's frustrating but I honor their wish, even if they are living in the 7th century and my medicaid dollars are paying for their healthcare
This is very sad and disheartening news. Yet, one ought to expect this type of behavior to continue to escalate. We are no longer a society based on the collective good (do not read socialism here but Christian perspective of community) but on individuality, (what is in it for me).
We no longer embody a group of rights but the sole rights of individuals whose mantra is do what you want as long as you "hurt no one." This lawsuit proves such a thing as being a lie.
I do not think that the US Supreme Court will take this case and if they did, it can go either way. We have to remember the Michigan case of racial quotas at the school which was narrowly sustained by 5-4 vote. I don't know if the justices see homosexuality as a chose than "being".
As a private business, I would think the photographer would be well within his rights to be discriminant in choosing what jobs they would take on. They should appeal this to the State Supreme Court.
"That decision against Elane Photography upholds a lower court ruling that said the photo studio is considered a public accommodation, similar to a restaurant or store."
LIKE HELL! This is the photographer's private business. He needs to ignore the ruling. A store is also private property. They are violating a persons right to their own property. NO MORE!
Well, hell will accomodate much of the public- all who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.... God will provide the public accomodation of the lake of fire to all on the broad road leading to destruction and will do so in righteous judgement, including, but definitely not limited to homosexuals who do not repent and place their trust in Christ: I Corinthians 6:9-10, Revelations 21:8
This is a rogue court. I would ignore the court. We can read the Constitution. Newt Gingrich was right about these courts, they need shut down. Congress can shut down, certain courts. The communists have infiltrated them, just as they have the church, and they are parading around as legitimate judges, priests, etc.
Take this as high as it goes. I'm sick of this. These governors need to start exercising their tenth amendment rights. If they don't protect their citizens rights, they need to be removed too. This is an outrage! IGNORE THE COURT!
Ignore in the court in this case and appeal because their ruling is in rebellion against the Creator, the only true God Whom all Christians must obey rather than men. Furthermore, this judge should be impeached and removed from office and replaced by a judge who follows the Constitution.
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