Constitution? What Constitution? ObamaCare unconstitutional? No way, it was ruled a tax by the SCOTUS. There's nothing unconstitutional about forcing the citizenry to get health care coverage, or else. There's nothing unconstitutional about forcing religious faiths to violate their beliefs regarding abortion. There's nothing unconstitutional about denying health care coverage to people who are determined ineligible by a panel of bureaucrats because they are "too old" or keeping them alive is cost-prohibitve. Nothing wrong with that. Just ask any totalitarian thug or despotic ruler on Earth today.
Here in SC we had a Nullify Obamacare rally yesterday at our capital. We went around and talked to our Senators and reps. It is in committee right now.
Bill Sandifer is the Chair of the House Committee. He needs to be the one to get it out of committee. Please call him at 803-734-3015 and urge him to protect us from the unconstitutional Obamacare....even if you don't live in SC....because if we can get it passed here, it might get the ball rolling in the rest of the country.
Traditionally, the court usually sides with the plantiff when it comes to defending religious freedom. Hopefully, they will rule against the government here. After all, if the general public has to pay now for abortions, why not pay for killing off the sick or the elderly? This is already happening in England, where doctors are being forced to offer the option of withholding medical treatment to people they think are not worth saving. It's called the "Liverpool Care Pathway for the Dying Patient" and it usually means withholding food and water to patients they think should die. It's also probably one of the most inhumane ways of killing somebody, forcing a slow and painful death on defenseless individuals. If our own Department of Health and Human Services thinks this is a great idea, what's to stop them from implementing it here in the United States and forcing YOU to pay for it? Taking life is NOT what medicine should be about. And yet this is the road the Obama administration wants us to travel on. Disgusting.
"“The case is about whether the government can say, ‘We’re going to force you to violate your faith or pay a fine,’” Kyle Duncan, general counsel with The Becket Fund, said. “Today it’s contraceptives and abortion-causing drugs. Tomorrow what else is it going to be?”
Mr Kyle Duncan - I can tell you what's next.
Look up "Liverpool Care Pathway", here's the latest, and do read the comments:
Liverpool Care Pathway, eh? More like the highway to hell. It's not mystery that the global authoritarians in their elitist ivory towers want to decrease the population of the world. Their intentions are truly murderous. I see they're off to a rollicking start in Britain. The thing is, they won't stop with just the elderly, sick, and dying. They will start building the same "pathway" for some of the living as well. What am I saying? They already have. See "abortion".
You have to love the name (Liverpool Care Pathway) they gave it. Sounds like a place you might want to go for a hike. "Slow, painful, starvation to death" must have been taken when they were naming it. :-(
It's the most heinous example of something done with good intentions and then taken by the socialists and 'instituted' in all hospitals.
The worst, the absolute pits, is that the NHS gave monetary 'incentives' to hospitals to use this "care" pathway as much as possible. No hospital manager will miss out on sums of over £500,000 p.a. for that!
That's the 'enlightened' care the left wants - for us, not for them. They want euthanasia as 'right' for themselves, they want to be given a nice injection when they decide they want to go. That's the next step.
It is not acceptable for any Christian.
I feel that there is a lot of hope in getting that contraception mandate struck down. If not, it will set a very disastrous legal precedent for future generations. As for striking down the whole law, I'm more skeptical. It can be weakened, though.
Wells here's praying that this suit unravels this longest communist document ever written and barely read. !!
Praying that all of these succeed but confident that most of them will be struck down by the communists in SCOTUS. God bless and please help We the People as we fight to take back our Republic.
I guess we will see if there was a method in what Roberts did.
I seem to recall reading about how the Court gave Congress a few different strategic options for nullifying the 17th Amendment without the Court actually declaring it unconstitutional. Congress and the People unfortunately failed - to our great pain and predicament today.
Hmmm, the last time I held my breath, I almost died...maybe baited breath? I think I misspelled that word...
Yeah, it's bated breath, but we know what you mean. Then again, with Obama, it is usually baited breath. Hmmm...
I can only speak from personal experience regarding God and His modus operandi. I've been getting to know Him over the past 50 years. In my life, He has always shown up, just in time...you know? When I'm walking the proverbial plank and teetering on the edge of the same, above the churning ocean, full of man eating beasts. I take that last step, out into nothing...that's when He shows up, grabs me by the scruff of the neck, and sets me on solid ground.
I will ever praise His Holy name.
The Senate just passed the so called "fiscal cliff" Bill the same way as they passed ACA. Removed the House language of an old July 2012, House Bill H.B. 8, and inserted Senate imposed tax increase language. They then call this a House originated Bill by keeping the House Bill number. Why such obvious ant- Article1, Section 7, of the Constitution of the U.S. is not jumped on by all "Legal Eagles" is very concerning.
Im hopeful that any of these challenges proceed, but the problem is Roberts. Im afraid that he may give a bizarre ruling like he did with the mandate.
My hopes are in that John Roberts knew exactly what would transpire out of the ruling last year resulting in Obamacare being determined to be un-Constitutional for originating in the Senate and not Congress. Once it is pushed back to Congress to start the process again then it is over for this nightmare.
This is the only hope and change that I'll embrace regarding this corrupt regime - that Obamacare gets weakened at least and struck down at best.
How we got here is way beyond me. It's almost supernatural how this slid through and became law (even though the damned Democrats ruled the world at the time).
Regarding Roberts... he better do the right thing about this, this time around. As it stands, I hope his conscience is riding his back like a gorilla.
As much as I would like to believe these lawsuits could win, seeing as that most of our government including the courts don't seem to give a rat's butt about the Constitution, I'll not hold my breath. I hope so, but I'm doubtful too.
Scoop, I pray with you the Chief Justice has reconsidered his position and will now be ready to do the right thing for our nation. I am also happy to see the fight is not over and also pray God will give those who fight against this govt grab Wisdom from on High and favor from the Throne. May God have mercy upon us.
Re: Gun Control...watch and learn...
Forewarned is forearmed!
Pray that Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy all remain in good health for the next four years. If Obama gets a chance to replace any one of them, I shudder at the prospects for our nation.
According to Chicago rules, good health is a relative thing. Pray for them indeed. Any one of them could have a surprise heart attack while walking down the street to their home.
I thank you for taking the time. If you are able, recommend others to experience it through print, audio, or video, it may very well help others too!
Well said. That pretty much sums up what I saw as well. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to see it. I probably would not have been introduced to it otherwise. It reinforces many of my basic beliefs and strengthens my resolve to fight for freedom, independence, and the Word of God.
Thanks for the review. I wish more folks would have the opportunity to learn from it! I hope you felt it was worth it…
I get the feeling he is not capable of grasping much of our way of life. I think this life is so foreign that he cannot really process it. He would probably function well in a heavy structured and regimented circumstance with low expectations from him. Like where a semi functioning handy capped person could be and feel of use.
I think it shows how the left totally destroyed what we call human. Working to earn ones way he sees so hard that he is wanting to go back, at least at some level. He does not realize that there he works harder to provide for his existence and is beaten or killed if he fails. He, like the others, thought nothing of killing! No feeling as to good or bad, right or wrong. Good, bad, right, wrong, evil as we know it, to them does not exist! The brain washing, or programming is so complete that any other way of living is hard.
The wanting to return is probably deeply imbedded in his psyche. From brain washing how evil our society and self governance is, freedom is not something he knows how to deal with. The ability to overcome the programming impossible! It is easier to be order what to do.
He lacks willingness to learn another language, saying he wanted the world to know but he didn't want people asking him. Claiming that is why he didn't want to learn how to communicate in another language. I got the impression he didn't know how to compare the two. He was simply able to say it was like this, this is what we did...
They managed to take the ability of self improvement out him. He has been made into what the left claim people really want to be. A so to speak self prophecy of human existence the left claims people are!
This is why the left go after the young. If the idea can be embedded early enough and firm enough it is virtually impossible to overcome. With each generation they are able to embed more and eventually the fight is gone.
Sorry I took a while to get back to you on the Camp 14 documentary. I get pretty busy and it takes me a while to be able to actually sit down and watch a movie on TV.
I don't particularly like movies with subtitles, so this was a deterrent for me. It detracts from my observing the reactions and feelings on the faces of the people involved. So, with that in mind, I still found the movie quite moving. The total control of these internment camps actually remind me to some extent of our entitlement society, where the people are actually accepting of the conditions as long as the government takes care of them.
I found it interesting that his conclusion in the end was actually one of wanting to go back there, where he wouldn't have to worry about trying to make money to survive, but would be content to have things provided for him. It seemed to weigh heavily on him and I find it very sad, as this life was destroyed by the North Koreans. It's strange that his decisions also cost the lives of his mother, brother, father, teacher, and the man who helped him escape, all the while he couldn't grasp the irony of it all.
The biggest thing I got out of this, as I already knew about the horror of this society, was that there was no mention of God anywhere throughout this video. It was a lack of God that caused the camps and the society that surrounds them in the first place. And the lack of a loving caring family environment was a direct result of them completely removing God from their lives.
Sorry, I got distracted with other things happening. But it's on my schedule for tonight. I'll respond back tomorrow on my thoughts.
Nukeman60, did you get a chance to watch "Escape from Camp 14"? If so I would like to hear your thoughts…
Sorry everyone, I apologies for thread hijacking...
EVERYTHING our elected do is tightening the screw....nothing gets better, have you noticed that? Every new law makes our life harder.
"Elected" ones instead of "serving" become fast Ruling Kings with seemingly unlimited power :(
Their twenty year record can only be summarized one way conserning what they have been doing. They are systematically shutting down the country. There is no partisan split in this. As the shutdown gets closer to an end, the proliferation of tyranny will quicken, as it has been. They have less time to accomplish certain goals. It is my belief that gun control is necessary for them to simply be able to become more fully authoritarian when it becomes undeniably evident that there will be no recovery, and with much less resistence.