The sad part is, this disgraceful, Soviet style BS has overwhelming support of both parties and of joe and jane six pack. Nation of sheeple.
I don't fly but I for the life of me I can not understand how flyers find it acceptable to PAY for the priviledge of being molested. Where's all the special interest groups, where's all the boycotts? After reading story after story I'm beginning to think flyers enjoy the molestation. If you don't want to be groped STOP flying or grow a spine and do something about it. "What a disgrace" - the disgrace is the flying public.
I get your point, but some people have schedules that can only be met by flying. Driving won't cut it. I don't fly, either, but...then again....I schedule for drive time and I don't do business too far away. If someone told me I had to be across the country in a day, I'd tell them "good luck with that...not happening", lol.
This woman railed against Congressman Paul and maligned him as outside the scope of conservatism, and he was the only one serious about this infringement on privacy and liberty. He would have done away with this public groping, but he wasn't good enough.
Geez. There needs to be screening, but do it Israel style. They know what to look for and they aren't subjecting everyone to this bullcrap. It is being abused by putting Obama's enemies on a watch list and harrassing them.
As I see it, the airlines have the most to lose from allowing an attack to happen, or from ticking people off at the airport. Yet, government taking over security is an airline subsidy. Since the airlines have a history of being bailed out, and don't have to pay for the TSA, they don't have much room to complain.
The people opened the door for government to come in by accepting things like the Patriot Act. Government takes rights, the people accept it, the government takes rights, the people accept it.........................
Government has neutered us, and we just say goodbye to our testicles. Its pathetic, and therefor, so are we.
I will never get on a plane as long as this is taking place, but that is easy for me, because I've never been on a plane anyway, and don't have to.
I don't fly, either. If I can't get there by vehicle, I don't go.
I don't have a problem with the CIA keeping an eye on people....even if it's me. But there has to be a trigger for it and I never do anything to pull that trigger, unless you count talking to people here a trigger (and it shouldn't be). Being the leader of the Tea Party is not a trigger, either. Checking out 50 books on how to build bombs from the library is a trigger, and so is making phone calls to terrorist hot spots around the world. But getting on an airplane is not a trigger.
These screenings are a waste of time and money, and they go beyond invasion of privacy. They don't have any rhyme or reason to them, and feeling an 80 year old woman's crotch is not saving the world. How many flights have we saved from disaster by using these methods? I would guess none.
I subscribe to the general theory that this is not about security at all. It is about breaking down our resistance to loss of freedom. It about making us more compliant, more manageable, making us fall in line with the increasing power of our Federal Government over every aspect of our lives.
The TSA pat-downs are just a tool the government is using to break our will.
That's all it is.
If it was really about security, then they would not be pulling grandmothers and little children out of the line, while the most likely people to cause a terrorist incident, walk right on the airplane, with no interruption in their lives, whatsoever.
What this is really about, is implementing Socialism on a free society. This is why the Second Amendment is constantly under attack. This is why the Federal Government sues any state that tries to control their own affairs, as illustrated by Arizona's attempt to stop illegal immigration. This is about forcing school children to wear locator chips, ostensibly to know where they are at all times. As in the case of the TSA pat-downs, it has nothing to do with making the children more safe. It is to get them comfortable, at an early age, with being watched, controlled and herded, by the Federal Government. Mandating enrollment in government healthcare is another example.
You can't take away people's freedom in one day, or one week, or one year, because they would object. If that is what you intend, then you have to do it over a long period of time. It's like the old adage of boiling a frog, by slowly increasing the temperature of the water. Do it too quickly, and the frog will jump.
Right now, we are the frog. Our schools and Universities have already been absorbed. Legitimate History is no longer taught. Our Muslim President proclaims we are no longer a Christian nation. Judging by the attendance in our churches, he may be right. By the time this next generation of grade school children reach adulthood, the takeover will be almost complete.
Too negative? Normally I would agree. The person I was ten years ago, would have been appalled by such statements. But, I'm not that person anymore. The person I am today, looks around and sees the evidence of what is happening. Everything we used to hold dear, is being taken away from us, and because it is being done slowly, we're getting used to it.
I had a similar experience this past summer traveling thru San Juan Puerto Rico. We didnt even leave the secure area! But they re- screened every one. It was crazy. I was pulled aside because I wear a bracelet that "locks" on. I have worn it for at least a decade and have never had a problem and when the wand went over me they could clearly see that was what was making it ring.
Anyway- that caused the full body- INVASIVE pat down.
I had hoped the TSA was going to be temporary after 9/11. Now 11 years later it has become permanent. It really needs to be restructured, privatized and rules put into place about how to treat the travelers.
problem with the flying boycott is they have moved operations to include bus stations , sporting events, political events, subways,trains and even highway rest stops
What they will say, is proper procedure was followed. These TSA agents are raping, stealing, etc. They deserve no respect. These are people with a single digit IQ, and would be in prison, if it wasn't for the govt. giving them jobs. No one with any self respect would work for this organization.
Our family flew to Florida last year. I watch every single line, and what they are doing. We actually buy tickets, where we won't be subjected to this abuse. My spouse is a Captain for a commercial airline, and knows how to do it. I remember the man who checked our tickets in Orlando, he was very polite, but he looked like he walked out of a hippie commune, with the pony tail. All you had to do is put a joint in his mouth. Then there was a black women with dreadlocks all over her head. It looked like a freak show. All I could think was, we're supposed to view these people as professional, when they look like this? Could they at least take a bath?
I then watched who they were pulling aside. I watched them pull this nice looking couple, who could have came from a farm in Kansas. Very clean, very neat, and he had on a type of clean straw hat. But they were very white, European Americans. Of course they were the ones they decided to pat down. Now, I have common sense, and I use it. This is absurd.
It's a stealth Jihad. They are attacking us from within, and they let Obama do it. They knew people had questions about him and his background. They just refused to look. We know darn well, he's a stealth Jihadist. I'm not stupid. God gave me the ability to reason, and I use it. I wouldn't trust that guy to mow my lawn, he'd run off with the lawn mower, and probably the yard too.
"We think you're tainted with explosives because of an underwire bra.....therefore, we must touch your vagina."
I feel safer already...just knowing that America's most unemployable losers are standing by waiting to touch my private parts for the greater good.
This is a rogue agency that needs shut down. It's full of hoodlums. Obama placed Muslims with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood into DHS. I think this is why this is happening. It's a stealth Jihad. They're attacking us from within, by attacking our Constitutional rights. Look at them blaming that silly video for the terror attack in Libya. Look at Fast and Furious. And I still believe they are involved somehow in that shooting in Arizona that killed the judge, and shot Gabrielle Gifford. That judge was going to rule against Zero in a case the very next day.
I'm sick of it. My spouse is a Captain on a commercial airline. This is our livelihood, but I have to tell you, the best way to solve this, is to quit flying. They harrass pilots, flight attendents, etc. As though pilots need a weapon to do harm? They're flying the plane for heavens sake. Not only that, someone needs to tell these numb nuts, that they weren't real pilots on 9/11.
Someone needs to be placed into this crime syndicate known as DHS and run background checks on everyone in there. If you have any ties in any way, shape of form to any suspicious Muslim groups you need to be investigated, and thrown out. Actually, everyone in the Federal Govt. in every state in the union needs to undergo a serious background check, down to the last paper pusher. I'm tired of this unconstitutional abuse. Middle Easterners blow up planes, and hijack planes, not white European Americans. We're going to have to stop flying if this is going to stop.
This is so disturbing. It's almost hard to believe but it is believable with what is happening to our freedoms. I sure hope Ms Loesch raises a big stink over this. We do all need to contact our congressmen/women - not that it will do anygood but we have to try.
Oh my goodness! What an outrage. I think I know what the topic of this month's letter to my senators and congressman will be.
[In the words of my father, "You're a damn fool if you don't write a letter!"]
I have not flown in 5 years, and I WILL NOT fly again, until this EVIL organization is dis-banded, and we start doing what is necessary...PROFILING!
Not an option for everyone. better solution is to FIX the TSA or better yet, get rid of it. Can anyone point to a single terrorist attack they have stopped?
They claim that they have stopped forty, or so, attempts. As far as I know, none of them were in colostamy bags, women's bras, or behind the nutsacks of any men.
If this was a Democrat activist, i.e. Cindy Sheehan during the Bush years, I wonder how big the outcry would be. The MSM would be in full melt down mode. That video would be played over and over again on MSNBC, and the Matt Lauer would have a full length sit down with Sheehan. The covers of Time and Newsweek would call Bush a groper, and Pelosi would be calling for hearings.
There needs to be a complete re-assessment of the whole role of the TSA and their methods. I hope when Romney gets in, this will happen. Harassing the majority so as not to offend the minority is not only idiotic, it's extremely dangerous! Go ask Israel for advice on how to do it. No groping of grannies in wheelchairs there! No children sexually abused in the name of "security" there either. But yet they have the most secure system in the world! They profile! It's not dirty, it's not racist, it's not insensitive, it's not wrong, it's SANE!
Yeah, but it works and doesn't p*ss off the citizens. I think mein herr in the used-to-be White House wants a system that doesn't really work and p*sses off the citizens.
They are getting their wish, but things don't seem too smooth for them for some reason.
Hmm - exactly what is their success rate at capturing a terrorist with these tactics? Oh I know - ZERO! Never, not once have they thwarted a would-be terrorist attack by molesting our citizens.
Now that I have had open heart surgery and my sternum is wired togother as part of the closing process, passing through TSA detecters should be a real hassle, as if it wasn't BEFORE surgery!
In my wildest dreams and nightmares, I never forsaw America as the fascist state she is rapidly becoming.
Both political parties have sanctioned the TSA and it's tactics.
Now we hear that TSA is coming to Train Stations and Bus Stations!
How Orwellian that a call for vigilence has instead been turned into a path for subjugation by an out of control government over the ONCE free citizen.
It seems that our beloved AMERICA is slowly being replaced with the facist's AMERIKA.
Hey, VG, did you just have that?
Yikes! I hope you are doing well and recover soon.
This 'security circus' doves in well with Islamic law. How ironic if our dear leaders try to use Sharia to control 'terrorism'. A comedy of errors and misdirection. Problem is, those who attempt to yoke the USA and tame us forget that we are an amalgamation of the the unruly, individualistic, ornery parts of most every population on earth.
I could almost feel sorry for our would be tyrants. Don't know about the rest of you (actually I have a pretty good idea) but I don't take to cages, or being told how to live, or any of that stuff. I will die fighting first. The most they get from me is my carcass, which won't be worth much.
They will learn they shouldn't try to herd cats with guns, pretty soon now. IMO
First the ballot box.
Open heart surgery and a triple bypass on September 19th, Wolf. I'm getting stronger every day that passes.
Agreed my friend, FIRST the ballot box! It is imperitive that we recover our Constitutional America!
Your carcass might not be worth many tax dollars, but I bet they can figure out a way to make it vote dimocrat!
This crap won't end until we are willing to travel by any other means than flying. I don't fly. My husband doesn't fly. I drive if I have to travel for business - dinging my own vacation days for the extra time. If we aren't willing to take a stand and hit the airlines where it hurts, they won't be willing to fight the government intrusion into their business. It's that simple. They do what they do because we allow them to by enabling them with our business.
This is tyranny by the govt and it must stop. Can't wait til Napoleon is knocked down from her perch.
"It's only tough for Amarica when we stop breathing"
Friend as you know the Tea Party Movement all across America has been working none stop for 3 1/2 years on the national and local levels of government, to replace Democrats, Republicans and RINOS, who have forgotten their Oath of Office and who they work for,it's "We The People".
We have had many great sucesses, and we will continue our victories in 2012 and beyond.
I hope you have been part of the solution that is the Tea Party movement. If not please get there ASAP, we need everyone fired up for the hard work ahead.
We pray daily, and we never forget what our mission is; it is to win victories and save America for our families, friends, and fellow Americans.
Tea Party Patriot
Obama and his czars, will be one termers you can take that to the bank.
Everyone that hasn't, please! join us!
I hear you Timerunner! The Tea Party is My Party! The only thing the establishment GOP fear more than the DNC is the Tea Party! Because we will hold them to account and drag them out on the mat just as fast as Democrats for not doing their job! We can see this by how weak support has been for Tea Party candidates like West and Bachmann! We need to donate to these great Patriots who are not only fighting for America against the DNC but, in many way against the GOP establishment as well! And that needs a REDO as well! They know we are coming for them!
Righ On Wolfie, November will be the second win for the Tea Party, the first was wining the Congress 2012. but 2012 is the grand prize for Americans and The Tea Party movement done and gone, along with many other democrat subverts.
The Democrats, Republicans, and RINOS know were are in for the long haul.
The Tea Party winners of 2010 should and can expect many more elected Tea Party candidates to come to Washington DC, we are the calvary we're coming over the hill to clean out the aformentioned scum. After we Americans elect Gov.Romney, the Tea Party movement will be working to clean up the mess left behind by Obama, his czars, and the democrat party.
Thanks Patriot for your work.
Tea Party Patriot / Columbia, S.C. Tea Party
When the Republicans were in control these type of searches were not allowed. It was only after the Obama took over we started seeing the abuses of power.