The Right Scoop
Get. A. Load. Of This. (via FR)
Panama City Beach. Yesterday.
Romney says that [he's going to go after that waste in the DoD to pay for Obamacare].
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PipWtwfUkQY
Uhhh What happened to repealing it?
A liar always catches himself.
{{DISARMED}} It sounds like there is a "not" in there that is not immediately obvious because of the crowd noise.
I'm terribly sorry for the disappointment this will surely cause. (I am)
still waiting...
Romneycare is a STATE right, just like how car inspections are mandatory in Pennsylvania but not Florida. If people didn't like the mandate, they could move away to another state. It is nothing like Obamacare, which mandates the entire COUNTRY to pay for healthcare WITHOUT the states discretion. The Constitution was designed to empower states of making their OWN decisions and limit the Federal government from conducting far reaching powers such as making people pay for healthcare just for being a citizen of this country. There is a major difference and Romneycare was endorsed by The Heritage Foundation - a leading and reputable conservative think tank and even Newt Gingrich endorsed the plan in 2006! For Newt and conservatives to dismiss Romneycare as anything remotely similar to Obamacare is outrageous and hypocritical to even fathom. Critics really should do their homework rather than jumping to such ridiculous stereotypes.
Owning and driving a car is *optional*. Living & breathing is not. (Aw geez. I didn't expect it to start this fast)
Fully aware that was a waste of breath. Or keystrokes.
-KGeorge
The scenario is corrupt. the federal government takes what is wants from the states, then offers it back to the states as bribes to do what the federal government wants. Those who play along are rewarded (with the fruit of the labor of other states), those who do not are punished with "wealth redistribution." The states will eventually be forced to succumb.
Number two, health care is in no way a "right."
How about if we replace it with bringing back jobs & new industries, cut spending, and lower taxes (& tort reform) so that that people are able to purchase their *own* insurance? To think that people actually choose to live with the risk of an accident or health issue that they can't afford is cynical at least and just plain crazy at worst.
Keeping the people broke and dependant is *not* the answer. It is slavery.
I think she inherited it from McDonnell. (maybe read that at legal insurrection, but don't quote me)
American politics at its finest sell out anyone and everyone for a job with a few extra pieces of silver
@Richard Laycock
"Francis Cianfrocca described the difference a Mitt Romney administration would bring America, "...more of the same, but less evil." That's about right. Only a change of complexion and a lowering of the vitriol."
Lowering the vitriol? I don't know about that. Romney is one of the nastiest guys I've heard in a while. The candidate of personal destruction for not one but two presidential campaigns. Sounds pretty evil to me while he's doing his best to destroy NEWT with lies.
Rush said Romney called him and wanted him to stop being so tough on him. That sounds like what Obama said to FNC.
...just sayin'......
You can maintain that if you like. It is often argued that, under Obama's plan, individuals will only have the "choice" to keep their doctors or private insurance for a short period. Obama's plan is the "camel's nose" that will ultimately lead to forcing everyone into a single payer system. That is absolutely true.
I submit to you that "state run" healthcare is exactly the same path. All the states will eventually fall. It is the same end by other means, designed to lull people into acceptance.
I note that the government educational system is supposed to be "state run." But that doesn't prevent the federal government from basically controlling it, does it? It is a semantical shell game.
I've uploaded a new video from Fox and Friends Sunday morning in which she reiterates her support for RomneyCare. She doubles down.
http://otisthehand.blogspot.com/2012/01/pam-bondi-supporting-romneycare-state.html
You nailed it, Otis, in your commentary.
There is wailing & gnashing of teeth and righteous indignation up to and until the outraged get their hands on the money & power. Then, it's all hunky-dory without a blip in the opposite direction. I watched Kos et al do it all the way from Bush to 2006. Well, beyond to Obamacare, really.
Follow. The. Money. It was blatant with Obama (e.g. the back room deals with PhRMA & big insurance. Why didn't they agree to lower costs, again?). How naive must someone be to think the Congress- and esp Romney (who pioneered this brilliant scheme) will not be benefitting financially from "socialized medicine".
It is a goldmine.
Bondi was on Fox again this morning. She absolutely, unequivocally IS defending RomneyCare. I've got the video, and I'll be posting it shortly.
I guess one should not be surprised when a supporter of Mitten's begins to act like him, speaking out of both sides of the mouth; being intentionally vague.
She's right that the states can implement a healthcare mandate. That's the only distinction in the two plans, one's for a state (constitutional) and one's for the entire nation (unconstitutional). I don't believe she said Romney would implement it across the entire country, but I still believe that healthcare mandates are a bad idea. Can does not mean should, and Romney and his supporters have yet to acknowledge this.
Prediction: Watch for this.
Some of Y'All may not remember that one of the most worn out rationalizations by the OFAs was "but states impose car insurance!". No matter how many times the opposition reminded them that owning a car was *optional* (whereas living & breathing is not), it never seemed to "take".
I believe that this is part of what the focus on states is all about. (Constitutionality is the other)
I know that, generally, people are against the mandate and socialized healthcare, but I wonder how many are aware of just how bad it really is. There were statements made (in earnest) at places like Fire Dog Lake, Talking Points Memo & HuffPo that were just breathtaking- "sell your car & ride the bus/ a bicycle", that people needed to give their children healthcare *instead* of food to eat, if necessary, "sell your house & move into an apartment". I kid you not. These things are probably searchable at FDL.
It just blew my mind.
It doesn't need to be true. Paul Weyrich not only dropped his support of Romney in 2008 but DEMANDED that John McCain NOT pick him as VP - or he would urge social conservatives to bolt the party (or at least not vote.)
Read it here: Paul Weyrich Believed Gingrich "TRUE CONSERVATIVE." Romney? PLEADED w/McCain NOT to select as VP | PolitiJim's Rants | http://bit.ly/AALL2e
Bondi keeps saying "Romney's plan would not." That's a reference to potential future. She's trying to wiggle out of the actual question by comparing Romney's proposal for his presidency with Obamacare. But that isn't what the question was about. Bondi never actually answered the question Greta was asking about Rush's comparison between Romneycare and its offspring, Obamacare.
I agree.
And what she says is entirely consistent with what Mitt has been saying... he keeps talking about getting the states to take on healthcare. We already know he is OK with the states doing top-down mandates.
She's defending it thats obvious. Its also obvious she has an agenda (working for him) which makes her bias and not a seeker of truth on subject.
In other words , she's full of crap
That's a very good point, I hope some one ask her about Romney's proposals exacting enormous bureaucratic influence never the less.
Thanks for this post. I'm no Romney supporter and either, and I'm disappointed to hear that Bondi is supporting Romney and has already been offered a job. However, you're absolutely right in that she did not mention implementing Romneycare.
I heard no solid condemnation of Romney's socialism. It did sound like she was defending RomneyCare, at least to a degree. Kind've like she's trying to get all states to implement their own versions of RomneyCare.
She said that Romney would repeal Obamacare. Clearly she said that because it is Romney's policy on healthcare and the topic was healthcare. She also said that the Massachusetts plan is different, which is an argument to try to defend him, though it doesn't appear to be terribly different, but more to the point, Romney only signed Romneycare for one state where it was overwhelmingly supported. Truly it was a bad policy, but it was constitutional, by the Massachusetts state constitution and by the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution, so it's not exactly what Obama did in so much as Obama applied it to the whole nation and signed an unconstitutional bill.
Conservatives and obviously Republicans keep buying off on the notion that the Government should "do something about healthcare."
This is exactly why we have Obamacare.
Yes Obamacare must be repealed. But the calls to replace it are very disturbing. What we desperately need is to remove the government's ability to intervene in "affordability" at all.
Such intervention always increases costs.
It's running late- some kind of FCC deal & yammering on about the polling in Florida.
Thank you, Scoop, for posting the entire interview with Pam Bondi. The Gateway clip was truncated (I don't feel any better about it, though).
MA Romneycare, and Gingrich's 20 years of support for the individual mandate will make it impossible for either to debate Obamacare. Gingrich's 2009 conversion, and his political past, and Romney's numerous reversals one many issues have me supporting Rick Santorum.
Thanks Scoop. It's amazing how many lies are being told to stop Romney. I'm no Romney supporter either, but the mountain of lies being told have me defending him as well.
Thanks for your integrity.
The real problem is the republican candidates themselves. They are destroying the image of the republican party by their criticisms of each other and giving Obama a second chance to ruin US further. They must stop attacking each other and focus on all the numerous and monstrous failures of Pres. Obama.
The Volcano of lies is funded by Mitt Romney and the RNC. They are our enemy!
Boehner's #1 goal was to neuter the Tea Party. He succeeded. He is our enemy!
Mitt was a liberal Republican in the most liberal state in the union. He lies every time he claims to be conservative. That the GOP "Wizards of Smart" are behind him 100% is proof he's a liar and a two-faced traitor just as they have been for the last 15 years. Oddly enough, since they kicked Newt out on trumped up ethics charges.
Want more proof sucker?
Check this out... The GOP legislature in Florida has completed reapportionment. Guess who's district was realigned to hand it over to the Democrat Party?
Colonel West of course.
The Republican Party just like the Dems views a real conservative like the Colonel as a THREAT. The GOP must be conquered or burned down. The Tea Party has to be the victor for America to be saved in 2012.
Francis Cianfrocca described the difference a Mitt Romney administration would bring America, "...more of the same, but less evil." That's about right. Only a change of complexion and a lowering of the vitriol. The policies will continue as they did under Bush. Socialism Lite or Hard-Ass. That's the choice between the GOP and Democrats unless the Tea Party kicks Romney's ass and purges the Republican leadership.
Bondi: "I'm going to be on Mitt Romney's team...to create good health care."
Sounds like she's in his camp, lock, stock and barrel. Poor dear, bless her heart.
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