Ugh. The depths leftists will descend in order to protect Obama. Bob Beckel said tonight on Hannity that the ambassador knew what he was getting in to and should have had more security around him:




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chatterbox365
chatterbox365

I think he should go back to hitting the bottle.

drphibes
drphibes

I'd love to see less and less of Beckel at The Right Scoop. He's the equivalent of junk food filler. There are worthier sound bytes available on a daily basis. For example, Dick Morris puts out a daily video update analyzing poll data and the like. There is more substance to be had than from this suspendered bufoon.

MrSmithInDC
MrSmithInDC

More security without bullets... right Bob?

Yazz55
Yazz55

Blaming the victim is just part of the strategy.

semihardrock
semihardrock

I guess the Communist "Union" were once called "bleeding heart liberals"

Susitna
Susitna

I understand that FOX wants to be fair and balanced, but Beckel is just a vicious guy who makes a living out of puking everytime he opens his mouth. He needs to be removed from The Five otherwise he will destroy the credibility of FOX NEWS. I don't know at the moment who is more disgusting, if Maher, Matthews or Beckel. Useful idiots of a regime that is destroying America. Traitors!!!

Hacker5988
Hacker5988

Scopp why do you post what that PIG does or said. It his his job on FOX to be an A**hole.

Both Hanity and Oreilly are losing viewers because of Beckle, Williams and Tarmara. This is the scum of the LIB left and don't lower youeself to there level of what they think, say or do. NOT many on here cares.

John
John

Beckel is disqusting period. I would rather listen to Juan Williams than this brooding insulting jackass Obama lackey.

SKL53
SKL53

Beckel should have more security around his mouth! This proves without any doubt that Beckel is a mental midget!

Leonardo Fuentes
Leonardo Fuentes

Thank God Jesus' mercy is availble even to snakes who repent! I was walking the park the other day and there was a snake crossing by so I crushed its head. I thought it the right thing to do and then asked God to protect my head from being crushed, for in Christ I am his son. Amen.

GEDouglas
GEDouglas

Beckel is once again "uninformed" or simply ignorant. The ambassador could request additional security until he was blue in the face and would not get until someone in the State Department approved it. These attempts to deflect responsibility from the BO administration are getting tiresome.

Martha Chandler
Martha Chandler

I know Bob is stupid, but this is a new low for him. These will say and do anything for the liberal cause. This is becoming a cancer in our country that I fear we will never be removed.

911Infidel
911Infidel

The failed campaign manager, yapping at the jaws because he knows nothing about anything. What a loser.

bongobear
bongobear

Beckel is a jerk and I refuse to watch any program he is involved with.

Libertyship46
Libertyship46

Well, sort of. In all fairness, Beckel said he didn't understand why the ambassador didn't have more protection since he knew "What he was getting himself in to." All of us have been asking the same question for about a week now. But you could say the same thing about the State Department as well. Why didn't Hillary Clinton and the State Department insist that the ambassador have more protection, ESPECIALLY in a dangerous part of Libya still under the control of al Qaeda? If the State Department really thought that local people would provide adequate security in that part of the country, we have bigger problems than trying to find out who did what and when. We have a State Department that doesn't have a clue as to how dangerous Libya really is, and THAT is a very scary thought indeed.

Timothy Crenshaw
Timothy Crenshaw

The Ambassador was posted to Libya. He had no control over where he was posted and no control over the security. He probably felt he had to risk his life to keep his job since if he quit the administration would black list him for exposing their complete lack of security in a country inundated by civil unrest and anti-American sentiment. He knew under this administration he could never get a good job outside of the State Department so he just hoped for the best. It was either risk possible harm or be jobless and homeless. This is what happens when you trust in this administration to take care of you.

Kasandra
Kasandra

Beckel knows clearly well that the security issue falls to Hillary. His stupidity shows in that he thinks everyone will believe whatever he says.

Time to get "real" Bobby ~ if you even know what that means!

Kordane
Kordane

I don't think that the ambassador could have had much sway over how much he and the embassy were protected. That's a high level thing.

kong1967
kong1967

I don't think he was blaming the ambassador for not having security around him, but rather that he knew that he would be in a dangerous location. However, he makes it sound like it's partially his fault because he took the job knowing the risks. I doubt he knew there wouldn't be any security, so it's disingenuous to suggest he did.

Trochilus
Trochilus

I agree. In fact, there is an account strongly suggesting that the foreign service "information" officer (Sean Smith) suddenly realized while they were there -- essentially trapped inside --that at least one the Libyan "security" personnel was beginning to act suspiciously.

Smith was apparently an active "gamer" on line, under the "code" name, "vile_rat" and he was actually "on-line" while they were inside the Consulate. He communicated to the on-line group EVE Online that one of the Consulate's "security" people was taking photos outside the facility!

(12:54:09 PM) vile_rat: assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures

His last on-line communication with the group was apparently typing the word, "GUNFIRE" and then his communications broke off.

kong1967
kong1967

Ugh, that's awful. I can't imagine the fear they felt during that time. Thank God we live in America.

Trochilus
Trochilus

I am a frequent critic of Bob Beckel, primarily because as he is an arrogant and untrustworthy commentator. But in this case, there may be a bit of a misreading of what Bob was aiming at in the clip. I listened to it a few times & just don't agree that he was directly criticizing Ambassador Chris Stevens for having put himself (and by extension Foreign Service information officer Sean Smith as well as the security team of two former Navy SEALs, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty) into danger in Benghazi.

Note that Bob also refused to take the Administration line on the issue of adequate security. My reading of what Bob said, was that he was primarily being critical of the obvious lack of security, but not as something that the Ambassador could do anything about.

THAT is something which we all should be concerned about.

The fact is that there wasn't much at all that Stevens could do about it. The Sec'y of State, Hillary Clinton, had agreed to a Libyan Gov't demand that NO MARINES could be posted in any diplomatic facility within Libya. And there were specific rules of engagement which Clinton's State Department had signed off on with the new Libyan Government, ones which she now refuses to disclose or discuss in any way -- on "security grounds."

My own read is that Clinton was the really bad actor here. And that is why the Administration is making every effort now to blame the murders in Libya on the movie clip, when it is obvious that the attack there was a well-planned operation. No one brings mortar tubes, RPG launchers, and a slew of ammo for each to a demonstration.

kong1967
kong1967

I do think Bob was insinuating that the ambassador knew he was going to be located in a dangerous location without security....which I doubt.

I am completely infuriated with the information you mentioned about Clinton. They need to stop agreeing to demands in an effort to further a friendship. The administration needs to tell them to go to hell because it's well known that muslims go on a murderous rampage over stupid-a$$ crap every time we turn around and it should have been obvious she was inviting this to happen. If they don't like it, too bad. This administration is hinging success on trying to befriend the muslims. How's that working for you, Obama? This administration is inept, stupid, ignorant and dangerous....for our soldiers and for us.

BS61
BS61

I'm done - with Sean for having him on the show!

poljunkie
poljunkie

Well, Bob- I read it was Hilarys decision to pull Marines from the embassy who would have protected the Ambassador.

According to Breitbart News The new State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, approved and signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton since the 2011 fall of Khadafi's regime, severely compromised the safety and security of murdered Ambassador Stevens and all American diplomatic staff in Libya.

He also stated that the decision not to staff Benghazi with Marines was made by Secretary of State Clinton when she attached her signature to the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya document. Breitbart News has subsequently learned that under those rules of engagement, Secretary Clinton prohibited Marines from providing security at any American diplomatic installation in Libya.

Read more at: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/14/Colonel-Says-Hillary-Clinton-Made-Decision-to-Have-No-Marines-at-Benghazi

Trochilus
Trochilus

Exactly right. She should be history. Let's see if some Senator stands up and demands her immediate ouster.

T Pixidust
T Pixidust

Beckel had to quit drinking is a fact of which he is very proud and recites frequently. His health was at great risk.

What he leaves out of that story his the fact that it wasn't his liver going bad. Poor lad was tired of getting his ass beaten every night hours before the bars actually closed.

HiramHawk
HiramHawk

Beckel blames the victim, instead of placing the blame where it most certainly belongs: Obama and Clinton.

NJK
NJK

I urge all of you to read this, and pass it around. It's just like many of us thought. Ayers and Dohrn were on the ground in Egypt to get the Arab Spring going, and Obama, and his ilk are behind all of the unrest, that is getting many Americans killed.

In a genuine working Republic, Obama, Clinton, and their ilk would be arrested, tried, and executed for treason. I hope they pay for the death and destruction their causing.

"Dear Mrs. Geller, please read and I hope you will re-blog this message and maybe get this to to the attention of the press such as FOX or anyone else that will take it. You have the power to get movements started. Mr. Helton is an upstanding loved citizen in my area. This time I think he has hit the nail on the head.

My Dad telling it like it is...

By Dennis Helton (4 hours ago near Easley) "Believe it or not, the biggest story of the day is not Kate Middleton’s invasion of privacy as she sought to sunbathe topless in yet another Royal Family Lindsey Lohan moment. No, the biggest story of the day is how two Obama run White House Ops are imploding in a worldwide meltdown put in motion by Oba...ma’s State Department.

In the United States, Obama & Co. designed, developed, funded and ignited the Occupy Wall Street movement through their established community organizing organizations, all operating under the umbrella known as NetRoots. Across the Middle East, the same organizations were on the ground months in advance, using the same Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals to topple numerous foreign governments and organize the so-called Arab Spring.

In both cases, Occupy and Arab Spring are brain children of community organizer-in-chief Barack Hussein Obama, using modern technologies and media minions to ignite civil unrest and class warfare across America and around the globe. None of it is at all accidental or organic in any way. All of it is the end game strategy for Alinsky radicals and their Marxist global agenda. They are a methodical means to an end.

Organized and funded by the world’s Marxist misfits, international leftists seek social justice all over the globe via Global Governance, toppling nations from Egypt and Libya to the UK and America, all for a utopian greater common good, in short, free stuff for everyone, freedom for no one. That’s why Marines were forced to protect our embassies unarmed, and no action was taken to stop the attack in Libya despite at least 48 hours advance warning.

Obama’s community organizers direct the Occupy movement in westernized countries and the Arab Spring in the Middle East. They had their boots on the ground months before, using the Internet, social networking sites, twitter and the media to organize and mobilize civil uprisings all over the globe. In the Middle East, that resulted in placing the Muslim Brotherhood in control of the most violent and unstable regions of the world.

Contrary to Obama Administration propaganda, the Muslim Brotherhood is not some kinder-gentler political party from Egypt focused upon a democratic Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood is the mother-ship of Islamic Jihad against the west. Obama friends Dohrn and Ayers led the Arab uprising on the ground in Egypt."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/09/violent-muslim-anti-freedom-protesters-continue-to-rage-across-asia-and-middle-east.html#comments

las1
las1

They had their boots on the ground months before

Uh... years before actually.

Leftists including the various peace groups have been meeting with Egyptian "community groups" for quite a while and one of the community groups was the MB. As early as 2007, European, Canadian and American leftists including the Canadian Stop the War movement were organizing to build a critical mass in anticipation of the overthrow of Mubarak. This was further enabled by the American Embassy prior to early 2011.

white531
white531

Good Lord!

las1
las1

Go back and reread it.... it was posted not by an Allen West, but by Alan White. I find increasing my reading glasses from 100 to 150 does actually help.

Linky1
Linky1

Why does it make a difference if it was posted by Allen West?

white531
white531

Sorry, my mistake. I didn't mean to imply it was our Colonel West. I traced it back through to the original source, and I am so used to typing Allen West, that I typed his name by mistake.

It was posted on Scoop by NGK, who I assume got it from Pamela Geller's website, "Atlas Shrugs." Apparently, it was posted on their site by Alan White.

When you click on Alan White, it takes you to his blogsite, which he calls, "Advice to the Government." Scrolling down to the bottom of the page, it says, "posted by, "Vote for Alan White/President 2012." That was what made me suspicious.

The original letter appears to have come from a Baptist Minister in South Carolina, by the name of Dennis Helton. Searches for additional information on Dennis Helton and his church proved futile. Could be a bogus name to protect the author of the letter.

While I agree with everything in the letter, I was looking for some concrete, irrefutable evidence that Occupy Wall Street and Arab Spring, were both the brainchild of Obama. Guess I was dreaming that there would be such a connection.

One thing I found that did impress me, was that radical Islamists throughout the world are using social media just as intensely as we are, if not more so.

las1
las1

I repeat... the poster was an Alan White, not Allen West.

Linky1
Linky1

I have to ask this question once again-why does this bottom feeding cretin deserve an entire thread to spotlight his hateful spewings?

Timothy Crenshaw
Timothy Crenshaw

The reason is because no one else will call him out on it. The media will not put his cowardice on display because they won't risk Obama or his administration being held accountable for anything. That means our outrage at this inhuman display has to be given an outlet in a thread. It completely disgusts me that the outrage against this administration leaving our people unprotected so they can be raped and slaughtered is relegated to a thread on a news board. The whole world should see our outrage and the perpetrators should be trembling in fear of our anger. Sadly this will be completely buried just like everything else that shines the light of truth on the Obama administration.

white531
white531

I'm not sure, Linky1, but don't you think its a good idea to keep some of these idiots on the big screen, so we can be reminded of what we are dealing with, so we don't lose focus?

Linky1
Linky1

Beckel spews the same crap and garbage time and time again. As far as I am concerned, it's wash, rinse and repeat. He is a liberal FOX hack who doesn't deserve the time of day from anyone.

white531
white531

For the last three, going on four years, Americans, including myself, have been forced to live in a state of surrealism. The things that we have witnessed visually, and been forced to listen to, through endless speeches by a man who has no idea what it means to be President of this great nation, are appalling to me. That we have gotten used to seeing it on the big screen, is perhaps the one thing that is almost unbelievable.

This incident illustrates the magnitude of how out of control this administration is, when it comes to not only foreign policy, but domestic policy as well.

Hillary Clinton should be fired immediately. She is nothing more than a bag of hot air. She hasn't the first clue of what it means to be Secretary of State. The only reason she took the job in the first place, was that Obama promised her if she got off his case, she would be able to take over after he finished. Well, he's finished, and Hillary bought a bag of marbles.

Our enemies are laughing at us, and well they should. This is the most comical and ridiculous government our nation has ever produced. How you could assemble this number of idiots in one place and give them the responsibility of taking care of the American people and protecting us against our enemies, is unbelievable.

We are a strong people. We might yet survive this. If I know Americans, and what they are made of, we will do our best. But, we should not have been put in this position in the first place. That is what makes me angry.

sjmom
sjmom

Bob,

Why don't you blame Barack or Hillary for the lack of security?????

3boojums
3boojums

Hillary should be asked why she signed off on a rules of engagement policy that required the use of unarmed security. then she should be run out of town

Cindy09
Cindy09

This is something that should haunt her and that every American should never forget especially when she decides later on to run for office. She's got blood on her hands.

Boris_Badenoff
Boris_Badenoff

What is there to discuss here...

The RESPONSIBILITY for the security of our overseas civilian personnel lies with the State Department and the SOS and ultimately the Obama administration and Obama for whom the SOS and her entire department work for.

At a MINIMUM Hillary is fully culpable and should be reprimanded and removed from her post . But in reality we all know this entire administration is incapable of conducting America's foreign policy or much of anything else for that matter.

It's that pesky word RESPONSIBILITY that is the problem with this administration.

They have NONE. There are no adults at home to take responsibility..

carmtom13
carmtom13

Here they go again, play the blame game! BHO and his administration own what is going on in the Middle East. At the dem convention no less than 21 times was bin laden talked about. Are the dems that dumb that the Muslims don't have television sets? BHO owns this!