Apparently the gun control debate is no longer about the Constitution and the 2nd amendment, it’s about your personal pleasure and the general welfare, according to Senator Dianne Feinstein:

I don’t really expect to agree with much that Mr. LaPierre says. Of course, he has the right to say it, and I have the right to do this.

I’ve tried to do it carefully. We have 22 co-sponsors. I recognize it’s an uphill battle. But I also know that these events are going to continue and America has to step up. The mothers, the women, the men of America have to make a decision as to whether their personal pleasure is more important than the general welfare.

Grievance killers look for these weapons. These weapons are easy to obtain. There are no background checks. You can buy them out of a back of a car, at a gun show. America’s laws are virtually nonexistent and, therefore, I think this is a good bill.

I intend to fight. I did it once before. If it doesn’t get done right now, be assured I will continue to press the case.

(h/t: PJ Tatler)




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Joey
Joey

Scary as it may seem, I trust arms in the hands of civilians over arms in the hands of the GUNverment, an entity that supposedly derives it's power and legitimacy from "we the people." With respect to gun control, I say to the Federal Govt and police forces, "You first, then I'll think about it.

straitshot
straitshot

Here are the facts: There are bad guys out there and I do NOT consider the necessity to defend either myself and family from them, or any potentially out of control government, in any respect to be a 'personal pleasure'. It factors down to more of human right, borne of oppression, abuse and disrespect. In this light, history has repeatedly demonstrated that guns in the hands of responsible citizens are not the problem. But a disarmed, ill informed public can fall prey to many evils, for they inevitably seek to exploit the vulnerable We have a Constitution in place. It frames the law of the land and guarantees certain inalienable human rights. Let us not ignore it or let it be compromised.

David
David

ONE WORD - FUCKYOU

Vin Mega
Vin Mega

And rest assured, we will be right there to press back. You are a loon and what you are doing is shameful.

agas84363
agas84363

why do we need a jacka$$ like this women preaching to us??....

Shut up ALREADY!!!!!

posetong
posetong

And we have decided you pumpkin head liar traitor, we have decided to try you for treason and exile you out of the U.S. and back to Israel , you and your criminal husband. We will not allow you or any of your ilk to get away with what your getting away with behind closed doors and smoked filled rooms, you old evil hag , your days are numbered.

Anthony Diaz
Anthony Diaz

These enemies of liberty, are totally discarding the fact that our RIGHT to carry and bear arms is a NATURAL RIGHT just as the right to LIFE, and LIBERTY, PROPERTY. Having suchs natural rights, we also have the NATURAL righ to defend those rights, and here is the grounds of such right. Any attempt to limit this right is an attempt to deny our most sacred natural right and enslave us, and leaving us at the mercy of all the predators of this world. This right is not given to us by the 2nd Ammendment, the 2nd simply codifies in law what is ours by NATURE, namely, the RIGHT to defend ourselves against agression, by a burglar, or any other such theat, including all the vermin who tray to disarm us and reduce us to prey of all the predators in this world, which includes tyrannical politicians.

Jason Vincent
Jason Vincent

Someone should ask the ignorant 'B' why she sees them as being mutually exclusive.

Mark Adam
Mark Adam

Di baby, the General Welfare depends on an intact 2nd Amendment and Constitution or there will be no General Welfare.

Sasquatch in DC
Sasquatch in DC

Feinstein and personal pleasure in the same sentence is disgusting!

fishmonster
fishmonster

She has been off her medication far too long.

BarefootBoy
BarefootBoy

Folks, The DHS has defined itself as a Terrorist Organization because of their purchase of an enormous order of ammunition and deployment of drones for the killing of Sovereign Citizens of The Republic of the united states of America. Dianne Feinstein and others supporting restrictions on the armaments We, the People, may want to equip our Constitutional Militias have hung a target on themselves that we have the Duty to shoot!!!

MadAsHellJack
MadAsHellJack

Dem Sen. Diane Feinstein: Gun Owners Should Decide Between “Personal Pleasure” And “General Welfare”…

Dianne, you meant WARFARE didn't you???

JungleCogs
JungleCogs

Democrats always want to turn their wants into a ‘values’ argument. But values are subjective; a Constitutional right is not. Those of us who support Liberty and Freedom often make the mistake of getting sucked-in trying to play the Democrat’s ‘values’ game.

If we were a Democracy that would matter; but we’re not, we are a Constitutional Republic. When it comes to Constitutional issues the majority does not automatically rule as they would in a Democracy. Feinstein can go pound sand.

stage9
stage9

"I don’t really expect to agree with much that Mr. LaPierre says. Of course, he has the right to say it, and I have the right to do this."

According to who or what? What "power" grants Mr. LaPierre the "right" to say what he says?

The First Amendment to the Constitution?

Then if the First Amendment grants Mr. LaPierre the right to SAY what he wants to say, why then does the 2nd Amendment not grant him the right to bear arms as he chooses?

She's cherry picking and using the Constitution to impose her own will upon the people of the United States and is granting powers to herself where none exists in law.

I say again, I would like for Ms Feinstein, and all other gun confiscation advocates (let's stop using their term: "gun control") to look into the camera and explain to the American people what power grants her the right to ignore the Constitution of the United States and arbitrarily choose which parts to obey and which to censor.

She needs to tell us who appointed her God to tell me that although I have a "right" to speak, I have no right to defend myself with a weapon of equal deterrence to other modern threats.

cheyennecowboy
cheyennecowboy

ACTUALLY, MY PERSONAL PROTECTION IS MORE IMPORTANT, SENATOR! APPARENTLY YOU THINK YOURS IS TOO, AS YOU CARRY ALSO!

911Infidel
911Infidel

I don't need some old bat telling me or mine how to live. Listen you old tart, why don't you go and read the Constitution and the Bill of rights instead of making emotional appeals with your inner totalitarian nanny. We can fend for oursleves and make our own decisions, Adults and patriots don't need your advice or consent. Go lick your own chains, grab your broom and go haunt some other venue.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

Personal pleasure?? How about individual liberty!! To paraphrase Ben Franklin, "those that give up liberty for security deserve neither".

She's going to quote a "general welfare" wording in the Constitution but completely ignore the 2d Amendment of that same document??? What a tard.

smokymacpot
smokymacpot

Apparently both of my "dumbass" Senators don't know a thing about the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. This mean they both lied when they took the Oath to uphold the Constitution of the Laws of the United States. I say it time for Feingold and Boxer to retire to the Socialist country of their choice immediately, preferably some muslim socialist country. Oh and take Nancy (the heritic Catholic }Pelosi, and Maxine Waters aka Moron with you.

kloyd0306
kloyd0306

The law abiders will not be allowed to arm while the law breakers will get them no matter what. This underlines why liberalism is a mental disorder.

pdxlady
pdxlady

Oh man, she just won re-election in November, so she will be there working on this until 2018...like a dog with a bone. (If we don't stop it by then)

We The People must fight this like nothing we have ever fought for in our lives. These are extraordinary times.

A little history about the first Revolution Time-Line:

1774 - Government bans the sale of the "Original Assault Rifle"

1775 - Government Orders Confiscation

1776 - Revolution

“I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical." Thomas Jefferson

Kordane
Kordane

Quote: "The mothers, the women, the men of America have to make a decision as to whether their personal pleasure is more important than the general welfare"

She's going ahead with her gun controls no matter what people decide. So no, the mothers, the women and the men of America do NOT get to make that "decision".

But hey, you hear her, folks? You have to decide between your unalienable individual right to the pursuit of happiness.... and the general welfare. She clearly thinks the former should be violated for the latter, even though it's "unalienable" and should never ever be violated, no matter what.

The "general welfare" only means those things which benefit everyone - Not just benefit one group at the expense of another group.

mark1955
mark1955

"Americans must decide if personal pleasure is more important than general welfare". General welfare is much more important and to that end the Keeping and Bearing of arms by individual American Citizens, is paramount to the "General welfare" and survival of our Republic, by not interfering with our God Given Second Amendment Rights!

warpmine
warpmine

If this women really cared about the children, she would stop funding of abortion and issue straws and wads of paper to the soldiers so they couldn't accidentally hit small children standing in front of terrorists.

white531
white531

It is amusing, at least to me, that the most promising state in our Union, turned out to be what it is today. California was the engine of America's future. Agriculture, Aerospace, Solar, Progressives. Wait. Progressives were not originally the plan that California had in mind. Never mind. They are here now, and they have taken over one the greatest states in our union.

When most people think of California, they think of movies. Shows the lack of knowledge, of the average American. In spite of the movie industry, California is one of the most productive agricultural regions on the planet. Why is that, you ask? Well, its the climate, basically. California has two growing seasons. The first one, and then the second one, right after the first one. Sounds crazy, I know. But that's the difference between California and Wisconsin.

You like strawberries? California supplies the entire world with strawberries. You live in France? And you like strawberries? Those strawberries on your crepes, came from California.

Okay, so where am I going, with this current rabbit trail?

I guess where I am going, is how easily Communism can destroy Creativity. The great State of California used to be one of the most productive States in our Union. It is no more. They are now bankrupt. They chased away the golden egg of Aviation and Aircraft Production. They taxed it to death. All that Industry now resides in Georgia and Mississippi. They are glad to have it.

California is left with Hollywood, and massive debt, that they have no hope of repaying. Because California has become yet another, "Welfare State." They are supporting so much welfare and free programs, for people who don't want to work, that they simply cannot generate enough income to pay for it. You think Obama is an Idiot? Jerry Brown could teach him things about being an Idiot he never thought of.

Add the millions of Illegals who call California home. They pay their own way, right? I'll give you a moment to absorb that.

California is a model of what this entire country is becoming, faster than we realize. You can ignore it all you want. That is your prerogative. If you do choose to ignore it, then you ignore it, at your peril. It is bad enough that you ignore it at your peril, but when you ignore it at my peril, it somehow becomes personal.

Jazzee
Jazzee

diane diane shut UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! retire go away get a new hairdo learn how to talk or just go away please you are a bimbo

Charlie Soroka
Charlie Soroka

Vote this down, every letter and every word!! Thee is no other option. If Congress goes with Finestein and her ban and forfeiture law, why is there an 2nd Amendment?? Then, how much longer will it be before the Congress passes a law for the citizens to surrender their firearms that Finestein's law currently exempts. While there are about 2200 exempted firearms under Finestein's current Legislation, the gun-grab is here if this law passes in any form.

She wants these semi-auto firearms non-transferable upon death of its owner, and then to be forfeited to the government. NFA of 1934 dont even require that!!

Sandra123456
Sandra123456

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is that we the people will have the ability to overthrow a tyrannical government, to rid ourselves of government nannies/dictators. It is not about pleasure.

Feinstein another reason for term limits.

Libertyship46
Libertyship46

"I don’t really expect to agree with much that Mr. LaPierre says. Of course, he has the right to say it, and I have the right to do this."

I'm just surprised that she still says he has the "right" to say what he wants to say. If she doesn't like the Second Amendment, what's to stop her from not liking the First and passing laws against that one too? The answer is, nothing. This just shows how much power these miscreants want. I think it's amazing that they think they can pick and choose which Amendments we can keep or lose. Generations of Americans gave their lives to protect these rights, all of them, and it's not up to jerks like this to just take our rights away from us. If we don't have the Constitution, gang, we have a lot of nothing. This is not negotiable. We must stand against these tyrants any way we can. It's the least we can do for all the many patriots that came before us.

KN
KN

I'm sure these survivors of criminal attacks are glad an armed CITIZEN was nearby to assist:

Gunman killed at Sullivan Central

http://www.tricities.com/news/article_35434f30-00d3-522f-98f1-58f372591713.html

East Ridge home intruder stopped by armed residents,

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/20574246/home-intruder-stopped-by-armed-residents

Shawnee Woman Thwarts Home Invasion

http://www.news9.com/story/20568878/shawnee-woman-thwarts-home-invasion

Robbery victim wants to thank Good Samaritans who came to his rescue

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Robbery-victim-wants-to-thank-Good-Samaritans-who-came-to-his-rescue--186572461.html

Madera pharmacy owners survive shooting, 1 arrested

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=8948286

Robbery halted by grandmother with a gun

http://www.wisn.com/news/south-east-wisconsin/milwaukee/Robbery-halted-by-grandmother-with-a-gun/-/10148890/18072252/-/n83orqz/-/index.html?showAds=0?source=wisn

“Assault rifle” saves teenagers from home invasion burglars

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/01/10/assault-rifle-saves-teenagers-from-home-invasion-burglars/

Man Shoots Robbery Suspect, Protects 2-Month-Old Son

http://www.kens5.com/news/SAPD-Car-thief-killed-another-wounded-outside-Stone-Oak-home-186923501.html

Homeless man thwarts robbery in Hollywood,

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/15/3183760/two-robbers-shot-dead-in-hollywood.html

Man fatally shoots intruder

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20130116_Man_fatally_shoots_intruder.html

Suspects in home invasion near Michigan City charged

http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/sbt-suspects-in-home-invasion-near-michigan-city-charged-20130115,0,6931126.story

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/college-student-shoots-kills-home-invader/nD9XG/

12-Year-Old Oklahoma Girl Shoots Home Intruder

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/23/12-year-old-girl-shoots-home-intruder/

Grand Forks homeowner shoots at burglar

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/254170/group/homepage/

RIT Students Accosted By Gunmen In Their Home

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Homeowners-Scare-Off-Burglars/7yaLSXAvCUGBkwgAZpGO4g.cspx

War veteran pulls gun on burglar

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/20702380/war-veteran-scares-off-burglar-with-gun

Magnolia Mother Fires Back At Burglary Suspects

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/01/25/college-students-ward-off-home-intruders-with-ar-15/

Armed guard disarmed teen in Atlanta school shooting, says police chief

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55742445-68/shooting-atlanta-police-says.html.csp

Martin Luther King Jr. High School coach shoots attackers

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/man-shot-near-martin-luther-king-jr-high-school-in-detroit

Suspect shot, killed in west Vegas break-in,

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/20958402/suspect-shot-killed-in-west-vegas-break-in

86-year-old woman grabs gun in self-defense

http://www.wcyb.com/news/86-year-old-woman-grabs-gun-in-self-defense/-/14590844/18404728/-/9fdio6z/-/index.html

Tacony store owner shoots armed robber dead

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=8982040&fb_source=message

Man attempts to rob gas station; owner brandishes pistol

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=23971590&nid=148&title=man-attempts-to-rob-gas-station-owner-brandishes-pistol&fm=home_page&s_cid=queue-15&fb_source=message

Intruder shot breaking into home

http://www.azfamily.com/news/teen-intruder-dies-after-being-shot-by-homeowner-190485621.html

2 teen brothers shot while trying to rob 2 men working on public lighting pole

http://www.freep.com/article/20130208/NEWS01/130208029/two-teens-brothers-rob-two-men-working-public-lighting-pole-Detroit-west-side

Chehalis homeowner shoots, wounds intruder

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Homeowner-shoots-intruder-190591971.html

72-year-old great-grandmother holds men at gunpoint for police

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/21215494/woman-72-holds-men-at-gunpoint-for-police

Guns Used to Save Two Women from Attackers

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/15/Two-Guns-Saved-Women-From-Attackers

Security Guard Fends Off Armed Hold-up Using An AR-15

http://conservativevideos.com/2013/02/security-guard-fends-off-armed-hold-up-using-an-ar-15/

Family fights back when 3 gunmen storm their home; one intruder shot

http://www.khou.com/news/local/21-year-old-protects-family-kills-suspect-during-home-invasion-in-NW-Harris-County-192475271.html

CATO Self Defense map: http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense

“The only defense against violent evil people are good people who are more skilled at violence.” ~ Rory Miller ~

conservativemama
conservativemama

And so if she rids the Constitution of the 2nd Amendment, which one goes next? Because as we know, the Left never stops, is never satisfied, is always on the relentless march to rob us of our individual freedoms. The Bill of Rights is just so 18th century, so old, so dead white guy.

Another woman who serves as little more than an embarrassment to the gender.

She swore to uphold the very same Constitution that she seeks to destroy. Treason. Tyranny. Thy name is Feinstein.

KN
KN

The hypocrisy of Obama, Bloomberg, Feinstien and others from the Left

Mayor Bloomberg has a small cadre of hired hands who are near and with him literally 24 hours a day. They are armed, all the time, and they are paid to worry about these things so he doesn't have to.

Likewise, President Obama has a literal army of trained, armed soldiers in the form of parts of the military and an entire division of officers (The Secret Service) who's job it is, once again, to make this not his problem for both him and his entire family. Michelle and his children do not have to concern themselves about these issues because there are literally over a thousand others who are paid to take that responsibility -- up to and including eating a bullet in their place.

Karl Denninger's full article at Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership:

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/obama-guns-hypocrisy-01.htm

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

"The mothers, the women, the men of America have to make a decision as to whether their personal pleasure is more important than the general welfare."

Feed that 'personal pleasure' krap to your fellow Democrat Menendez. We can see through his BS and we can see through yours too.

KN
KN

"The mothers, the women, the men of America have to make a decision as to whether their personal pleasure is more important than the general welfare."

Right - because it's morally superior to have a women raped and left for dead than the women holding a smoking gun in her hand with a dead perp at her feet.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

Right, and where are all the 'Women's Liberalizationists'? ;-) ;-)

Amjean
Amjean

She has this backwards! We need to own guns for the general wefare.

StrangernFiction
StrangernFiction

Americans need to put aside the personal pleasure of owning a firearm to protect themselves? This from a 'rat (ie a staunch supporter of a woman's right to be irresponsible, even if it means murder)?

These people are fvcking monsters.

repubboy
repubboy

THis is not about pleasure ! Senator, THIS IS ABOUT FREEDOM ! Just who the hell do you think you are ? You work for US we the the people allow you to serve us ! So back off you twisted old biddy !

Phillip
Phillip

is it just me or did she smile when she said it will happen again? this is a evil woman

guppymanster
guppymanster

Diane Feinstein and Barack Obama are the worst types of liars. The Obama administration has been caught sending fictitious tweets to congressmen on gun control. Only problem is the people who tweeted this barf don't exist. That is sort of like a polling official in Ohio who voted six times for Obama. It is embarrassing to watch his daily melodrama and his Greek tragedies. There is no need for gun control but their is a serious need for Obama control.

FreeManWalking
FreeManWalking

babs...mDear, I use that term loosely, the sooner you and your ilk in government are pushing up daises, the better chance I have of retaining my General Welfare.

jvd5695
jvd5695

My personal LIBERTY is more important than your view of "general welfare."

Just so you know, You dirty old commie, you can't take away my God given rights, you can only attempt to infringe upon them. They weren't given to me by you or the Constitution. I am not a subject.

Diogenes_wy
Diogenes_wy

She was a clueless dingbat and obsfucator back in the seventies when she was on the SF board of Supervisors and it appears that time has not improved her in any way.