pookysgirl
Ron Paul is like that mouthy friend you occassionally go to a bar with. Sure, he pays the tab but he also gets YOU punched in the mouth 'cause he doesn't get why telling a big drunk biker to screw off is a bad idea.
That's right. Stop foreign aid and stop giving illegals free medical treatment and knock off food stamps and unemployment benefits for life.
No, you are missing the point. Every nickel spent of our military is well spent and a bargain. We need to stop giving money to Paki, Afghani, and all those other countries run by muslim despots.
OK, that's fine. But to spend that prolifically on defense, we need to cut spending substantially elsewhere...such as in the federal bureaucracy and entitlements. The guy who most here seem to support as the person to get that done (Santorum) has a record of doing just the opposite while a member of the Senate...he voted to raise the debt "ceiling" five times and to create the biggest unfunded entitlement (Medicare Part D) since LBJ.
No, Jay. Your boy in the "House" has been giving billions of actual US dollars to the bad guys, trying to buy their best behavior and putting those dollars on the DOD budget. Our troops don't see that cash. He is giving away the farm to the enemy and blaming it on the good guys. He is a criminal and I believe he is the enemy too.
Sadly, it is inevitable. And all you Paul supports need to recognize that if he were to win, he will accellerate WWIII.
Hoorah. Yep, that's Marines for you. They remove the word "can't" from your vocabulary very early on in training.
??? Give me a break on the whole 'high taxes thing...' You know that all the entitlement crap is what is driving our deficit and debt. It's not defense spending. Defense as a part of the GDP is not nearly as large (and growing) as entitlements and you know it.
I'll repeat: Defense is one of the very few things the Constitution allows the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to spend dollars on.
That's fine. But what is Mr. Conservative, Rick Santorum, proposing to cut from the federal budget that will allow for the level of defense spending he (and you) insist is necessary? Is he willing to eliminate the Medicare Part D entitlement he voted to create? No, he has said that he stands by that decision ("but we should have funded it"). Newt and Romney support that massive entitlement too (or at least they did when they were campaigning in Florida). These three are completely full of crap and not one of them is even remotely conservative.
He's not proposing enough (nor is Newt or Romney)... but the White House isn't the only answer to this problem. It's only one side of the equation - or should I say 1/3 of the equation?
I truly do appreciate Ron Paul and the fact that he brings the conversation back to what is constitutionally sound. I will vote for him if he's the nominee (and without as much trepidation as Romney) - but his national security stand gives me pause. On that subject we will have to agree to disagree. I know I won't change your mind and likewise I'm unwavering on my stand. :-)
Keep in mind that your concern for Dr. Paul's attitude on foreign policy is addressed by your first paragraph. If Congress declares war, President Paul will commit our forces to the effort and win decisively with as little life and treasure lost as possible.
We really need our military. I was watching this "Doomsday Preppers" show and a liberal east coast couple were featured who refused to take any measures to defend themselves in the case of a WROL situation. These are the same kind that hate the military and think if we just be nice to the Muslims they'll leave us alone. But when the SHTF, these will be the first ones to cry for the government (or somebody) to come and help them. Pathetic.
Want to thank all of you, for your Powerfull stand against Oboma & His Corrupted political partners.
But there is so much more we can do. Being aggressive and focusing on the facts and truth is only the first step.
We musT follow Up with more details standing by our convictions and dont back down.
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Yet. For Griz, if Ron Paul wre to win a bomb might be dropped on Tulsa.....
and LA and Richmond and Houston and St. Louis.
Why, they are the same ilk. Who is sec of state? My list is a little longer than yours. My question is, how did they get elected? Join the militia.
Just when you think you have seen it all, look at WW2 films of beach landings. Look at the fortifictions, still in place, because congress didn't want to 'waste' resources.
I can only say, we also fight, who guard the home front. I would have traded with you anyday, anytime. To actually shoot at an enemy, has my greatest envy. I grieve for my fallen comrades. Simper Fi!
Pooky, welcome to military life. FDR, Truman, Ike, and Clinton, and Carter, all stripped the military. You may remember the effects of those guys. You may be the best of the best, but demogods care nothing for you. While America cheers for you, these people will always use assets to buy votes, not save hero's lives. FYI, Ob has gutted the state dept., to use money to throw at the Chicago dumb bunnies. He also lies about just everything. God bless you, and your family, and may He keep you safe. America loves you, be reassured.
Of course the only cuts Democrats can make would be in Defense. The arrogant and pompous Democrats always want to cut the department that keeps this nation safe. Where are the 70,000+ jobs going to come from for these laid off military service men and women? Why is it that Police and Firemen can never be cut but the military always can be? I think our service men and women are as important (I believe more so) as our local police and fire personnel. I would much rather fight our enemies on their turf than on ours. Obama is dismantling everything that stands for this nations greatness. Our enemies laugh at us; our allies don't trust us anymore. Obama has done more to destroy the American Dream than any other President in history. I loathe and despise him for what he has done to my (and yours) children and grandchildren’s futures. They will not have the same opportunities as we have had, thanks to Obama and his mindless idiot followers.
PFFV, As stated above by pookysgirl, there is a Constitutional mandate to defend our country. This administration is abdicating this mandate with political abandon. as you say, "..Obama and his mindless idiot followers" are doing more to destroy the American dream (actually America itself) than any other President in history. Believe me, you are far from being alone in your passion. This country will not be taken down .
I sincerely believe that POTUS is crazy
He is doing everything backwards - He is EMPOWERING the BAD Muslims - destroying Israel -
Pushing the US into a ditch -
Declaring war on religion - Starting "class" warfare -
Causing the PERCEPTION of Racism to accelerate
Being divisive in general - especially along Partisan lines
Destroying US exceptionalism - encouraging the growth of other Countries AT THE EXPENSE of the US -
Discourages job creation -
TRAMPLES the CONSTITUTION -- BLAH _ BLAH _ BLAH
Weakening the Military and telling everyone about it !
He truly is killing this Country!
Is it just me - What the FRACK is going on here?
Saying it will stop in 2012 is not good enough - People must be outraged - I don't see it yet -
I don't see or hear the passion or frustration of the citizens
Please fill me in on what to do
I don't strike you as outraged and overly vocal, Joe? Give me a second, I'll try harder. :)
Joe, keep doing what you're doing. Don't despair, spread the word to those who are not aware, stay outraged in a controlled way, be informed, be skeptical, vote your heart, love America. Understand that not everybody knows what you know or realizes what you know. Educate them. Pray.
Yes, I know. It's Newt Gingrich.
Seriously, Grizzly. Why is Dr Paul wasting our time running for president? He says himself that he's not serious about it. He has never been able to catch on as a leader in Congress. Even he says he's not going to be nominated. It's irritating.
One of these days he's going to bust a blood vessel getting all wound up like that. Hopefully *not* on live tv. er internet.
Seriously, *what* does he want from all this?
I would say that Dr. Paul would like all Americans to think very seriously about our freedoms and what the proper role of government is in our lives.
I can't believe that he- or anyone who is in any contact with the politics junkies on these blogs and comments sections could not know that we think about these things constantly, every day. Obsessively. I'm afraid he is- and you are, preaching to the choir.
And have to I wonder why he and his followers- you, aren't throwing body & soul into reaching the democrats/ liberals because they either don't realize the consequences of what they're doing or they don't care.
"But that is chump change compared to the federal defense budget" yes, so that is where you begin to cut and leave leave all the waste and corruption for last if at all, cause you know they will do it as promised. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2011.png Priorities grizzly, Priorities http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-prorated-imminent-danger-pay-starts-this-month-020212w/
Peace for our time ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time
My link to Peace for our time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time was nothing more that to say its naive to think you can negotiate and trade with tyrants and the insane who wants to kill you because you do not believe as they do, you have nothing, absolutely nothing they want, these ignoble regimes are like rabid dogs indoctrinated from very young to kill and why would anyone want to trade with them? look around grizzly, this is not the 80's.
Thanks for the link, from the article "Paul would never have foisted an oil embargo on Japan" the question to ask is why did America foisted an oil embargo on Japan ~ http://askville.amazon.com/WW2-History-America-put-oil-embargo-Japan-excuse-start-war/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=51038887
To Get Ron Paul's Insanity, You Have To Understand Libertarianism ~ http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/to_get_ron_paul_you.html
I agree with you grizzly that without a strong and relatively debt free economy, the USD can be in peril.
But by the same token the share size of the U.S economy will have serious effect on these same market forces and Governments that are looking to bring down America through weakening her currency.
In the short term it may seem to work but imho will prove to be a most unwise thing to do.
Where you loose me grizzly is the war for oil argument, I understand where you are coming from but I just have more questions than answers with that argument.
Oh, I see what you mean now. I think you are missing the point though...the idea is that our hegemony in terms of the petrodollar was at risk if Saddam started to sell his oil for Euros rather than US Dollars. We invaded under the administration's premise of WMDs but we were actually invading to stop them from destroying the dollar. We only get away with the printing of money (inflation) the way we have because the Saudis and everyone else buy dollars to then buy oil with, under an agreement dating back to the early 1970s under Nixon. If and when that is broken, we are screwed as the USD will be toast. So...we are about to go to war with Iran, once again under the WMD narrative, but once again it is really about our petrodollar hegemony.
No. Some say for oil (speculation) others say to change the face of the Middle East over time to a more democratic, peaceful system of Government (speculation) the administration said for wmd's. I am sure there are more speculations out there but if it was for the oil where is it. The Reuters article linked above is telling.
How is the last paragraph speculation? Are you saying those events did not really happen?
Just did. The last paragraph is speculation and in contradiction to the first. I also remember this: No boon for U.S. firms in Iraq oil deal auction ~ http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/12/12/us-iraq-usa-oil-idUSTRE5BB18Q20091212
That is what I am talking about...check out the very last paragraph in your linked article.
grizzly, you are correct, "Ron Paul did not name his son Rand" thanks for the correction.
If you are talking about this: The demise of the dollar ~ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html then Iran is the least of the problem.
I didn't get far into that article before I realized it was a bunch of nonsense. Ron Paul did not name his son Rand, he named him Randall. His name had nothing to do with Ayn Rand. "Rand" is a nickname given to him by his wife.
When we go to war with Iran, keep in mind it will have nothing to do with nuclear weapons. It will be because they begin to sell their oil for gold and currencies other than the US dollar.
So, Mr. blackbird, see that big red section in that pie graph in your link? The one that says "Medicare 23%" and represents the single largest portion of the budget? Do ya think ole' Rick Santorum, "the most conservative candidate still remaining" according to Rush Limbaugh, would be willing to raise taxes substantially to cover the giant unfunded prescription drug program he helped add to that big red section back when he was a Senator? Newt supports Medicare Part D too...think he'd be willing to jack up taxes to cover it?
The question is...will a President Santorum drop Medicare Part D, which he voted to create? The answer is...not likely.
Hi grizzly, blackbird or John is fine. I support Governor Palin, will Santorum and Gingrich raise taxes "to cover the giant unfunded prescription drug program" they have said no, do I believe them, that depends on weather the Republicans can capture the Senate and strengthen the House.
Did you read what I wrote? We "have the money" to discard perfectly good cars, bail out crooked banks & traders, entitlements and loans/ subsidies for failed "green" energy startups, etc out the wazoo + all of the above but we don't have the money to sufficiently finish what we started or do it effectively and protect our country?
This sounds more like a priorities problem to me.
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