The Right Scoop
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Please don't make me puke. Rubio is the furthest thing from a Conservative I can think of. Try again.
All negative comments here about Rubio show how we destroy our own now, we do not even need the dems or media to do it now. Rush thinks he is bright light for conservatives and so do I. I know Rubio is not perfect and he is not even my first choice, but I think he could take it to the dems and the media pretty well. Time will tell.
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Have any of you, in your wildest dreams, considered the fact that the Democratic Party, and the Liberals who infest that particular segment of our society, in their quest to take over the world and the way the rest of us live, would not have the slightest hesitation of using someone like Rubio to gain the advantage they seek?
He is the actual representation of everything we are fighting against. He believes everything we don't. They want to run him in 2016, even though he does not meet the qualifications for President.
This is the sad place our nation has come to. Most of our population do not understand where this nation came from. The sacrifices that were made to give us the Freedom we enjoy.
We are being led by a Communist/Progressive, who wants to diminish our image on the world stage. He and his fat wife both hate America. They are both doing everything they can, to destroy what you and I grew up with, and considered our home and our heritage.
Now we are having Amnesty shoved down our throats, just like we had Obamacare shoved down our throats. How many more Obama Orders are we going to have shoved down our throats?
We have become a country of poorly educated Idiots. Led easily, by people who know how to manage Idiots.
How much longer are you going to suffer this, before you develop a backbone?
This is nothing but a Trojan Horse amnesty policy. Rubio has been assimilated into the good old boys club in the senate. If he's the future of conservatism we're in trouble. Your first clue should be that this is touted as "bipartisan" immigration reform. Keep in mind "bipartisan" is code for democrats get their way.....
This nation is changing. There are some us who want it to stay the same. Sadly, we are not going to realize that dream.
Communism and Socialism invaded America almost before the ink dried on The Constitution. It has been with us for more than two hundred years. It is with us today.
Some of you will deny it to your grave. Doesn't matter. As much as you may not want to believe it, it is here among us.
Communism first reared it's ugly head during Lincoln's administration. Lincoln regularly conversed with recent German Immigrants who were expelled from Europe, because of their Socialist beliefs. They were his friends, and they influenced his thought. It is a matter of record. Look it up for yourselves.
Karl Marx was a regular contributor to the mindset of what Lincoln thought at the time.
In spite of what most people believe, Lincoln may have been wrong, and the Southern States may have been right. The civil war, as it turns out, was not about slavery at all.
Because what Lincoln succeeding in doing, was squashing State's rights, once and for all.
Regardless of what our History books might try to teach you, that was basically what the Civil War did. It simply eliminated The States from ever having any power again, against the all powerful Federal Government.
You will never see that idea taught in any classroom of America. Because the classrooms of America, are controlled by Progressives. They get to teach your children. You don't.
This post is now twenty hours old. Bless her heart, KittyAmerica was the only one.
Says a lot for KittyAmerica. Not so much for the rest of you.
Cubans, Mexicans, or Muslims. Take your pick. The list of people who feel they have right to take over America, is a long line. Here's a wake-up call for all of us.
There aren't any White people in the line.
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I am done with Rubio. I never want to see his face again. He is the Cuban version of Obama.
He actually reminds me of the Bush family.
Kinder gentler compassionate conservatism...and all that rot.
Yeah, something like that. But part of me still admires what the Bush family did for this country. You see, that's the problem we face. Not any one of us is all good or all evil. We are a mix of both.
I will give you this. I am tired of the criticism of both Bush senior and his son. History will tell us whether the things they did, or did not do, made us better or worse as a nation.
You have to admit they upheld the dignity of the office of The Presidency of The United States of America.
When you compare Laura Bush descending the steps of Air Force One, dressed in a tasteful attire that signified that she knew she was representing the United States of America, to the ugly, fat wife of Obama, descending those same steps just a year later, dressed in shorts from Wal-Mart and flip-flops, with her belly hanging out, you might begin to understand my position on this matter.
Thoughtful words, Laurel. Maybe some of these things we will never know. Like you stated in your comment, I also like the Bush family. Because they presented a dignity and an image to the world for America that is missing right now, with these current inhabitants of what I call, "sacred ground." The White House.
I think of this family called, "Obama," as a desecration, to all who have died to protect the Freedom of this nation that our Founders risked their very lives for.
I think the Bush family understood and respected what the Obamas don't.
That was all I was trying to say.
I agree. They aren't all good or all bad but the Bush family ruined the Reagan legacy and in part are responsible for ruination of the Republican brand. There seems to be a thread of people on both sides of the aisle that think they are the best and most fit to rule ie The Ruling Class. That is probably why they gravitate to politics to begin with. The easiest way to tell is if the bulk of their job history comes from government in one form or another.
Most of us don't go into politics because we have humility but ironically it is that humility that makes us precisely fit to lead.
I like the Bush family, and I think much of their criticism isn't warranted but some of it is. No more family dynasties for me.
Incidentally I think that ruling class mentality is often why George W. Bush didn't defend himself. He ruined the Bush legacy not doing so as well as the Republican brand. There is a time and a place to take the high road and time and a place to fight back. He should of fought back.
BS
full court press for Rubio, who has done more damage to his conservative cred with his recent McCain impression that even El Bushbo can fix.
He's cooked. Wouldn't vote for this guy for dog catcher.
RS....I know that you are a BIG Rooobio fan, but insinuating that Rush was impressed with Rooobio because of Marco's "immigration policy" is false advertisement and it came across just as bad as the LSM.......You should know better.
BTW....I want to know just how many of these "illegal immigrants" that Marco says actually own their own business.
Roooobio makes it sound like that's the norm when he knows that is not true, it is a VERY small percentage at best.......shame on him.
Rooobio knows that most of the illegals in this country work minimum wage....if they work at all. To insinuate that the illegals are all law abiding people is hogwash and shows Rubio to be a big fat liar.
Not impressed.
The bi-partisan proposal which Senator Marco Rubio (aka Jeb Bush and Karl Rove) is pushing is another form of amnesty.
Follows is the statement by Senator Ted Cruz:
I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=339434
#Shamnesty: Happy warriors fight back against immigration plan with reason and truth
Read also the article by Brenda Walker posted at vdare.com:
Senator Sessions Warns of Amnesty's Trillion-Dollar Cost
http://www.vdare.com/posts/senator-sessions-warns-of-amnestys-trillion-dollar-cost
Finally, this observation by Mickey Claus:
Mickey Kaus calls out Sen. Marco Rubio on amnesty flip-flop
http://twitchy.com/2013/01/27/mickey-kaus-calls-out-sen-marco-rubio-on-amnesty-flip-flop/
John-Frank thanks for the patriotic immigration links; since you posted this came in from Michelle Malkin
http://www.vdare.com/articles/amnesty-gang-throws-law-abiders-under-the-bus
@whitneypitcher : The media won't report it, but Pres. Obama's immigration speech today cost taxpayers $519.82 per word.
Let's GET THIS STRAIGHT, Because I have an issue with the Title. Rush was impressed with what he said.
I heard the whole Interview live, probably just like a lot of people, What I heard Rush say he was impressed with was that Rubio is not afraid of Talk Radio, and that he stays on Point.
Rush is not Thrilled With Amnesty, Rush said the Liberals have promised this before, and Rush stated again and again today, 25 years no voting. Now i wish he would have stated that to Rubio.
Rubio is a Con Artist. This has been his goal since day one. Rubio is not a man of character, he has sold out this country to pander to hispanics. HE LIED BIG TIME in this interview when he said ILLEGALS DO NOT TAKE WELFARE> Anyone who knows me on Facebook already knows I have debunked that 7 different ways to Sunday with the posts on my wall.
I know many like this guy, But when a man not only pushes Amnesty to take AMERICAN JOBS, and all one has to do is look at what Alabama did with Illegals and it opened up jobs for over 2,000 americans, and when he bashes Bachmann over the Muslim Brotherhood, When he admits to using the Credit Card in Florida, When he got busted for Taking illegal Campaign Contributions, When he flat out Lies and Says they are not on Welfare, this is not a Man of Honor. This is a Groomed Politician being shoved down our throats as some sort of Rock Star.
Well my Rock Stars, don't lie, cheat and steal from my pocket, they follow the rule of law, enforce the laws on the books, and Rubio has now Just made himself the "Token" hispanic to stand there with McAmnesty, Grahamnesty, Durbin, Schummer, and Menedez, to take the hits, and the punches when this fails. hey look we have a Cuban doing this too. He states he is a Conservative, he is NOT, he is a Republican.
Obama's Speech today, SHOWS NO BORDER ENFORCEMENT.
We finally got out of it but for a while worked in Medcaid provided services to illegals, visited them in government subsidized apartments, heard them on their government supplied cellphones, and saw refrigerators stocked with food stamp groceries.
We also saw social workers helping them get the most of these services. Never was was ID or citizenship asked for.
Many illegals avoid the government at all costs. Others know how to work the system but they could not do it without the blind eye of government employees.
30-40 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS
aka D'rat Voter registration = permanent majority FOREVER = Socialism/COMMUNISM FOREVER.
RUSH is WRONG!!!!!!
Thanks Scoop. However while Rush may be convinced, I am not and I doubt many will be. This sounds far too much like a bait and switch with this new found love for border security. Anyway, we shall see.
Close the borders (confirmed by citizens living on the borders), enforce current immigration Laws, end the anchor baby fallacy, deport illegal immigrants...there, the only immigration reform needed and problem solved.
You are kidding right ,,,,,how many illegals do you know, that are going to give up the free stuff , to admit they are illegals and pay back money they owe???? There was a time when our country was a place that knew exactly what was going on, who belonged here, who was in line faithfully waiting to become an American because they loved this country and it's Constitution.. , but now we are the only country with no borders, come on over, It is unsustainable but so is everything .
She will also never run for office. She is great, but most people dont even know who she is.
I know this is going to be too far down the page to garner awareness, but I will post it anyway.
Mr. Rubio has been making the rounds of the "conservative" Big Three. I have heard Mr. Rubo's interviews on all three programs. Not one of them said, point blank, "If you really think that the Democ-rats, or Obamao, is going to do anything to secure our borders, you really need to get out of politics, because they have you totally snowed."
Two of them, Hannity and Rush, have been carrying water for the GOP for longer than anyone cares to remember. Although they both proclaim, loudly and often, that they are "conservatives first," it doesn't take much listening to comprehend that they are "Republicans first."
At no time have either of these stalwarts said the GOP is a dead issue. They always refer to the GOP as "we," and they never mention the TEA Party, or any other grassroots organization, in any way other than in passing. The very fact of a possible "third" Party, even of constitutional conservatives, causes them to wet their pants publicly. They cringe right on the air where everyone can see (hear).
Hannity totally fawns over the GOP establishment mouthpieces, such as Karl The Crapitect Rove, and calls them all his "friends." He may ask one tough question, but never challenges the answer.
Rush, Hannity, and yes, even Mark Levin, are great at stating the obvious, but never take the dangerous step of offering an "out of the box" solution to the problems. And, as with Mr. Rubio, they never challenge his position to the point of showing him to be the fraud and "politician" that he is.
They are always entertaining, and with the exception of Hannity, they are often informative. But that is the extent of it. As it now stands, they are as much part and parcel of the establishment, and the Ministry of Propaganda, as Fox News or CNN.
It is time We The People awakened from the mesmeric sound of their voices and realized that they are not offering any solutions to the problems.
But they are certainly making fortunes, by making fools of us.
Throw them all out! The status quo must go!
Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Barracudas Maximus.
The problem isn't having a solution. The problem is PASSING THE SOLUTION!
Republicans (in general) are not like his highness Obama where they will ignore legal process and just pass a law. They couldn't anyway!
The log jam is in the Senate with Reid and his highness Obama. It's really that simple.
That's like blaming the water for a stopped up drain! The water is doing what it's supposed to do, it's the clog that's the problem! Remove the clog and you get water flow.
Same thing in government. That clog, Reid, is the problem.
What Sessions said, also? An administration that 3x's defies Congressional oversight of DHS regarding ICE agents thwarting by Dept. head? Good thing the discussion is not over. Keep up the pressure. Get the Senators together against them.
Throw these 3 out and we have no one left!
I agree on Hannity, he can go and would be missed for about 3 days.
Mark Levin claims to have a plan that he is working on and will need a few months to finish. Holding out a little bit of hope there, but not much since he has said this before.
Rush is more complicated. I think he has his ideology correct and I do believe he is conservative, but I think he has become so cynical the past 20 years, that he just sees it all as a big game and his passion waxes and wains.
MissMyGuy ... Very interesting observations. Allow me to extrapolate on your points.
"Throw them all out," in my signature line, does not refer to Hannity, Levin, or Rush.
It is the title of the book by Peter Schweitzer, and refers to the Congress of the U.S., and the fact that they are mired in "crony capitalism," and have as much to do with freedom and our constitutional republic as committed socialists and Marxists.
"The status quo must go," is a direct quote from Sarah Palin.
Sean Hannity is an "everyman," and has shown himself to be very likeable, but not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. He has been, from the beginning, a protege of Mark Levin. In fact, it was rumored back in the late 1980s that Mr. Levin actually ghost-wrote his first book.
I, too, have heard this claim by Mr. Levin about having "a plan." I was not aware that he had said this before. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to listen to Levin for as long as I have been listening to the other two.
Levin actually holds out the most promise in regard to actively doing something to change the status quo. He has been an actual "activist," and the Landmark Legal Foundation, under his guidance, has gone to the wall in defense of the constitution.
I have been listening to Rush for 25 years. I do not believe he is cynical. I believe he has become a caricature of what he was at the beginning. He is living in a closed world, and is as far removed from We The People as the denizens of D.C.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Rush has become "gun shy." In 2008 he adamantly proclaimed, day after day, during the presidential primaries, and after McCain secured the nomination, that "we were screwed." No matter who won the presidency.
I believe that Rush felt somewhat responsible for McCain losing. Thus his refusal to rake Romney over the coals in 2012. Anybody But Obamao was never going to be a winning strategy, and there was nothing Rush could say that would convince any conservative that Romney was one of us.
But Rush held back, and pulled his punches. He did not subject Romney to the same scrutiny that he gave McCain.
It is way past time to kick the corrupt GOP, and the rest of the establishment, including the Ministry of Propaganda, on both sides, to the curb. To take our country back from the Political Ruling Class, it is going to take "sudden and relentless" reform. That has to include the "talking heads," who are totally dependent upon the existing establishment for their living and survival.
Does that include the Big Three? Only if they continue to carry water for a dead Party that is part and parcel of a decayed and corrupt system. If they refuse to consider any solutions other than those already tried and failed, then they are part of the problem, and part of the ongoing propaganda machine.
As long as they do nothing but point out the obvious, refuse to get tough with people like Marco Rubio, and keep themselves tied to outdated and outmoded solutions, they are not doing anything but perpetuating themselves. And perpetuating the system which threatens to enslave us.
It is way past time for We The People to stop accepting people such as Rush, Sean, and Levin at face value. Although I am willing to be shown by Levin, I believe that Rush and Sean are not willing to do anything "dangerous" that will jeopardize their "position."
Throw them all out! The status quo must go!
Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Barracudas Maximus.
JRD1 ... I assure you ... there will be more ... lol
Throw them all out! The status quo must go!
Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Barracudas Maximus.
KittyAmerica ... I appreciate the kind words.
It is well past time that We The People wake up and smell the "show business" coffee.
Please see my reply to MissMyGuy below. I think it will be food for thought.
Throw them all out! The status quo must go!
Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Barracudas Maximus.
Obama has already drawn his line in the sand; no more border security. In my mind the bill is dead before it lives.
Go get 'em Liz. I'd like to recommend vdare to Charity, who might profit from another perspective on this issue.
Thanks! I liked the post. It certainly makes valid points across the board. I totally expect the dems and maybe some republicans to pump loopholes and other crap into the bill. I think in it's pure form Rubio's bill is a great idea. And I think that's the point. It's about the idea and his ability to say "look I proposed a common sense solution but the slimy politicians didn't care to get real about it." Everything Sessions said was true but what he failed to do was present a good plan that Americans can get behind. I think Rubio is trying to stay one step ahead of the progressives by taking charge of the narrative and I love that.
Rubio certainly isn't proposing blanket amnesty and is supporting cutting off any assistance for all illegals that continues even if they do get a green card. At this point its going to cost us to deal with this problem because we have let it get so out of control. Doing nothing costs us trillions as well.
President Eisenhower, in Operation Wetback, exercised such power in defense of national sovereignty, the rule of law, American jobs for Americans, and national security, among other reasons.
Self-deportation will cull the numbers automatically -- and dramatically -- when our laws are enforced, the magnets eliminated, and employers are prosecuted.
I did and I was disappointed because I usually agree with what my man Charles has to say. He said that the minute the bill is signed its instant legalization because the government isn't going to pay attention to the provisions. I don't care about speculation of what laws the government will or won't enforce. I don't have control over that. Rubio doesn't have control over that. His job is to make sure he proposes good legislation that becomes good law. You could debunk any bill with that logic. "Oh well we could pass a bill that requires the fed to increase the man power at the border but they won't actually enforce it so its bad legislation." Krauthammer should make comments on the bill according to its own inherent merits. If he wants to bash the Obama administration for not enforcing laws on the books that's fine. Don't direct it at Rubio's bill though, that's not fair.
I support deportation in most cases but realistically we cannot deport 11 million people. It would be a scary thing to give the feds that kind of power. I think Rubio's solution addresses the problem as whole and would actually end up with more criminals being deported.
Did you watch Krauthammer's remarks, also posted here on TRS?
He states that Rubio's plan is indeed essentially amnesty.
Sen. Sessions plan is to enforce our laws as they are. The problem we have exists because our immigration laws are not enforced, because we have sanctuary cities, because we have magnets that bring in illegals in the way of freebies handed out by states which act in collusion with business interests demanding cheap labor and politicians clamoring for votes. And let's not forget the pressure exerted by globalists, behind the scenes, to erase borders altogether, sold through postmodernism which declares that one culture is just as good as any other, and which shrilly proclaims that people who want to perpetuate and protect their own culture are idiot xenophobes.
Deportation works. If you think it's cruel, then you should be on the front lines of those demanding that we secure the border, stop the magnets, and enforce our laws. We must end a situation that hurts the American tax-payer, our own under-class -- who have been reduced to dependency because they can't find work nor compete with illegals for jobs -- and tempts people to break our laws, resulting finally in the sob-stories their deportation will ensure.
And you betcha, like Ike, I would deport illegals.
After Obama speaks in Vegas, nothing else will matter. Trust me.
Do you know how many Hispanics got behind Reagan when he signed amnesty into law back in the 80's?
zero, or at least next to zero.
They STILL voted for the Democrats!
In other words, there is no FORM of this where we win. It just isn't going to happen.
We are fooling ourselves if we believe that it is. I don't care how great Rubio's bill is, he is not going to get it passed Reid or Obama JUST SHORT OF blackmailing them with pictures having affairs at a local motel!
Rubio will become background noise in all of this. Watch.
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