The Right Scoop- Cindy08
At the risk of repeating myself, there is a strong wind of true change among the conservative populace for a third party. In Sarah’s own words “conditions have changed since last year”. The GOP has got to own up, or having a third party elected in the next cycle. They have a choice.
- rjcylon
Third party=split vote=Obama victory.
Palin has been pretty consistent on that view. I don’t want to see her become Ross Perot.
- Cindy08
The GOP has got to own up to their promises. No one wants to go that way. That is the very last resort after everything else fails… But still if you listen to the videos, you will agree with her ‘that conditions have changed’. She could be running on a Tea Party Ticket a la Bachmann. But I am pretty sure that before saying those words to Hannity, she’s seriously been thinking it through.
- 22227
The GOP has most definitely NOT owned up to it’s promises. I wish we could get rid of both parties.
- Cindy08
Palin is a maverick, true maverick. Remember when she came up with the “death panels” measures in Obamacare? Everybody was against her but that same week the Dems struck out those measures from the bill. Palin has got the knack of throwing a word out to get people to assimilate what is happening and get people to actually think outside the box. A third party was a harsh reality twenty years ago. But today things have changed.
Take for example Al Quaeda, they have been America’s enemy No 1 for almost ten years. Now WE ARE fighting alongside Al Quaeda in Libya. And the cherry on the cake: our government just gave them 20 BILLION OF OUR TAX DOLLARS! Yeah! Just like that. Where is the GOP on the subject? Do we want to cuddle up to our enemies now? - 22227
With the G8 deal it was 40 billion barry gave to our enemies, is that the one you are thinking of, or is there another 20 billion from somewhere else he gave? Wouldn’t surprise me, he is giving all kinds of money to islam. Here nor there, where is the GOP is an excellent question. The GOP is quiet on way too many things. I realize there is a lot going on to deal with, but they are not doing their job.
- Cindy08
I give credit to the freshmen and Paul Ryan to even try. But the party is so entrenched in doing things the old way that they excoriate whoever comes up with a new plan or a clear thinking. “We the People” have got to stand up and smell the coffee. It is not about a brand, it’s about where our country is heading. And before the entitlement mentality puts every body under hypnosis, we have to do something radical. We were not fourteen trillions in debt twenty years ago. Now we are!
- CBDenver
If the choice is Obama (a liberal Democrat) and Romney (a liberal Republican), a conservative independent could win because the first two would split the liberal vote
- mikemorrison
So what? We don’t have a conservative, independent candidate that the GOP machine will get behind and none of the GOP machine candidates can beat Obama anyway. A third party conservative candidate will get the attention, maybe, of the GOP finally and maybe they’ll start listening to us instead of just giving us lip service as they’re doing now.
- carkrueger
Wow, Sarah sounds like she is teeing up for a third party run. If not now – when? I think she should go for it even if it means Obama get’s a 2nd term. It would probably take at least 3-4 presidential election cycles for a real 3rd party to be established. Why wait, let’s do this.
- voted against carter
Little history is need here,..
This is EXACTLY why, and HOW the Republican Party started.
No one to day alive REMEMBERS the Whig Party.
Whigs Party??
The Republican Party was created in 1854 to combat the threat of slavery’s extension into the NEW territories, and to promote more VIGOROUS MODERNIZATION of the economy.
Abraham Lincoln was the FIRST Republican to run for president, and won in 1860.
Before that it was the Whigs and the Democrat Party.
And by the way, the Democrat Party was the party of the SLAVE OWNERS.
And It hasn’t changed ANY since then.
This is ONE MORE REASON you NEED Sarah Palin NOW more than EVER.
- sDee
I agree Cindy08.
She told the RNC “Keep trying to marginalize me and I will run as a third party.
Normally I would distance myself from a politician like Trump who does that as a spoiler. Palin is not holding the 3rd party card as a spoiler. She knows that the RNC is a big problem for America, they are farming Progressives in conservative clothing.
I think Palin just drew a battle line. The RNC can abandon Statism-Lite, return to Constitutional government and beat the Progressives in 2012. Or they can run a milquetoast like Romney and lose to the Progressives in 2012.
I am with Palin on this. Time to take a stand. Meeting Progressives halfway, is talking only half a step to Statism.
- MJS
This is what a caller to Mark Levin was talking about the other day. Don’t get me wrong I love Sarah Palin, but the way she speaks in this interview should be the standard in which she always speaks, less on the folksy way she often does. She sounds far more credible. Just sayin’.
- MichaelAndrewAlaniz
Ignore the voice, listen to her message.
- MJS
I get what you’re saying, I don’t think her message changes, I just prefer this “voice” the best.
- JR Dogman
I agree with you — she sounded superb in this interview. That being said, there are venues in which she can embrace her roots, which are folksy. And it won’t be phony for her to do so, in case such worrying thought crossed your mind; rather, it will be comparable to when a southerner who has lived in NYC for 20 years has a few too many, and suddenly sounds like she’s reclining on a covered porch swing, with a tall iced tea on the swing-side table, and a yellow mongrel dog sleeping at her feet.
But yeah, man, Gov. Palin sounded pitch-perfect tonight. I was impressed by her every word. In particular, I was impressed by her willingness to call a liar a liar. Enough is enough already. I don’t know how it came to pass that we as a society are so comfortable with politicians lying to our faces, so that we just accept it as normal behavior — that we’ll even applaud them as they lie, provided we like the lies they’re telling (or rather, if we wish that their words, which we know to be false, might just for once state the truth).
Run, Sarah, run!
- 22227
You tagged it…it’s the pitch that is so bad. Aside from simply despising barry, I hate it when he goes into his “hood/brother” dialect, his arrogant I am king persona, and his Sunday preacher mode, and he forget his “Irish” accent. He is already an idiot but when he goes into these accent modes he looks even more like an idiot. It’s embarrassing considering he is POTUS.
Sarah has that down home persona that works well for her in some places, nothing wrong w/it. But in terms of promoting herself as a leader of the free world, someone credible, that demands respect of others, the “voice” she used tonight is the one she should use more often. Her pitch is shrill, it’s natural for women, but some breathing and voice lessons would help her immensely to learn how to bring down the pitch so she isn’t so shrill. I know some people that are completely turned off by her simply because of her voice, it’s our culture we live in. Sure it’s shallow, but since so many people comment on it it would behoove her to listen. She might gain a few more votes and get more people to listen to her message. Tonight she sounded more like an Allen West or a Bibi. Both of them are down to earth but yet their persona and they way they speak commands respect. Just my observation. Before the Palin Lovers lose it, it is constructive criticism.
- Marti17
Don’tcha think SarahCuda is just getting warmed up? This is what it seemed like to me. I sensed a deep well from whence these strong statements came. Interesting – very interesting, almost like a multi-part saga unfolding!
- detectivedick
Sarah is so correct, the voters sent Conservatives to DC and lowered the ranking of the lying Pelosi. I can assure you, Pelosi is dreaming about victory in 2012. Bohner needs to grow some stones and lead because our patience are VERY thin with DC types.
Palin/Bachmann 2012……….real women with real solutions. - http://twitter.com/#!/TheOrangeShaman Orange Shaman
I’d like to hope that one of the two “closet Libertarians” get voted in this time…but if not…then I hope America actually survives until 2016 and they separate again because more and more people are either leaning towards Libertarianism or flat-out becoming Libertarian as they see this R/D coin fail them OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.
- Marti17
Our founders were closer to Libertarian thinking than any other party’s thinking/action today. The GOP platform says a lot of good stuff but they don’t follow through.
Most people have believed that Libertarian’s are just are just a bunch of ‘wackos’ – I sense a change in that to the other direction. I don’t know if there will be enough of a turn around for them to win in ’12 – we shall see. But IT’S COMING!
- JR Dogman
I don’t normally post identical comments on different sites, but this morning I read a guest submission on Conservatives4Palin, titled “Without Sarah Palin, 2012 Will Be Major Letdown”, which concluded as follows:
“we need to win OR LOSE with our best. Sarah Palin is our best. She has to be there and IF SHE LOSES, so be it. Without Sarah Palin, the Republican Presidential ticket in 2012 will be a major, major letdown.” [My emphasis in CAPS.]
The author, TMW, clearly is an individual of firm principles, but I feel he ended his article on an unwarranted grim note, and having just watched these three videos of Gov. Palin speaking with Sean Hannity, I feel I must repost here my response to TMW’s piece on C4P:
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I agree with most everything you say, but if she’s our nominee, she ain’t gonna lose.
Nor is she simply going to win.
She’s going to kick Obama’s ass in humiliating fashion. I began my explanation why here:
http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/03/the-winner-or-wake-up-george-will-wake-up.html
… and tho’ I’ve been remiss in getting the second installment written, you can expect it shortly. Tentatively titled, “Why Gov. Palin Will Smash Obama to an Electoral Pulp”, it will present numerous, logical, crystal clear reasons why Gov. Palin will send Obama back to Chicago with his tail between his legs. For those reasons need to be discussed, as they are key to raising our morale and keeping it nice and high, while dismantling the morale of the enemy (hey, it’s Obama’s word for us).
The fact is, the minute Gov. Palin becomes our nominee, Obama’s foul heart is going to sink like a stone. And it will only get worse for him with each passing day: you’ll see it, as he begins to look tireder and tireder, as his morale abandons him — as it hits home just whom he’s up against.
If you’ve watched your share of boxing matches, you’ve seen it before: one man is simply too fast and hits too hard for the other to handle. The first man can tag the second man at will and be gone in a flash, leaving Man #2 swinging at air.
The one swinging at air will be President Obama, as Gov. Palin runs rings around him — and around the MSM/Democrat Party.
The only way Obama wins in 2012 is if the Stupid Wing of the Stupid Party nominates another self-annihilating loser. Obama knows it, and the MSM/Democrat Party know it too.
Obama doesn’t want any part of a fight with Gov. Palin.
Gov. Palin, on the other hand, can’t wait to kick his ass.
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My fellow Right Scoop readers and commenters, listen to what Gov. Palin is saying, and you will realize there is truly but one candidate of the sort she says we must nominate to beat Obama:
Herself.
My gut still says she’s going to step up to the plate. I think she’s been champing at the bit to meet him toe-to-toe since 2008. But she does have a young family, so I can understand how she might really be hoping that some other principled candidate with her level of quickness, aggressive nature, and ability to bypass the MSM emerges.
Only that’s not going to happen. It simply isn’t, and we need to face up to that reality — NOW.
I dig the hell out of Herman Cain, and after 8 years of a Palin administration, my greatest hope is to see Rep. Allen West take the helm for the next 8 years. Like Gov. Palin, Rep. West not only gets the Left and their true intentions, he not only knows how to take the fight to them, he enjoys it.
Thus as you watch these videos, know that you are watching the next President of the United States — IF she decides to run.
We must get rid of that “IF”. Gov. Palin must run. Therefore, WE must let her know that she is meant to be our nominee — that she must not roll the dice by leaving it to Herman Cain, or to any other candidate we’d be thrilled to run in any other year, to smash Obama in 2012.
You know it and I know it. Look at this woman. Listen to her words and mark her body language. She is the fighter she speaks of, ready, eager, and able to kick Obama’s ass from sea to shining sea.
- 22227
She is right about one thing, the limp wimp GOP will cave to PC and not be nearly as aggressive as it needs to be.
- Dead Fish Go With The Flow
Does that Martin Basher remind you of that pipe smoking Glenn Beck speal or what.
Sarah your the best. I don’t know how you do it.
- Bill589
I think Sarah is just flexing her muscles suggesting a third party. Even now, she shows what kind of leader of the party she would be. She clearly leads from the front, and shows the path to victory in bold colors. She always shows the fortitude the others promise.
The GOP establishment, “The machine that runs the Republican party”, has been anti-Palin.
So far, I have never seen this ‘David’ be afraid of any ‘Goliath’. Why start now?She is NOT on the Republican’s side, so much as she is on the US citizen’s side.
That is a big reason why she should be the Republican nominee.All she has asked for is truth and fairness.
IMO, she will never get that. On a level field, she wins, and they know it.
IMO, she will win anyway. - Jaynie59
Well, in this interview Palin did the one thing that would make me reconsider my support for her. She opened the door for a third party run.
That’s the end for me. I don’t care what her reasoning is or why she did it, that’s a deal breaker with me and I’m done defending her until she declares one way or the other. In this interview she also restated her mantra that she doesn’t need a title so this was the clearest indication that she really isn’t going to run. She loves her freedom as a non candidate. Good for her. But I’m not going to waste my time defending someone who appears to be playing me for a fool.
I am not a mindless follower of Sarah Palin. I do not need Sarah Palin to tell me who to support. I support her because I believe she’s what the country needs now. But if she doesn’t run, or worse runs as a third party candidate or supports a third party candidate in 2012, she will do more to harm this country than anyone else.
- Spartan
Jaynie she’s not saying that she will run as a third party candidate. She’s messaging to the GOP establishment that they better stand on the promise they made to WE THE PEOPLE when they took the House. Period. Because their messaging is so poor right now, that they will be responsible for a third party. She wants to stand in the party Reagan stood in. And she is desperately trying to get them to find their backbone. Everyone in this country wants the leadership to stand up against Obama. He’s beatable if you just play him at the same intimidation game he’s playing at. He’s a bully. But when a bully is confronted by someone who isn’t afraid of him? Well he ain’t much of a bully anymore. I BELIEVE Sarah is giving those candidates, in play right now, the opportunity to show they will stand up against the bully. Otherwise, she will. And she won’t have to have a third party to do it. Romney can’t answer the mandate and the global warming issue correctly. She has him on both those points. Slam dunk. Huntsman is still in the pocket of the Dems. Slam dunk on him. Pawlenty can’t get past his own cap and trade issue in Minn. Slam dunk on him. Cain can’t answer foreign policy. (He’s a nice guy) Slam dunk on him. There is no one else who can go toe-to-toe with her. And she will plow right over Obama during the debates. He can’t talk off prompter.
So just sit back and watch as she strategically dismantles her opponents. That’s what ALL of this is about. No competent general comes outbefore the start of a war and talks about the battle plan in front of the enemy! Obama is the only moron who does that!!
So with all due respect, if your not convinced this far into the process of her ability. Then perhaps it is time for you to find another candidate. Sarah is mine. Period.
- Jaynie59
Let’s see what she says to Wallace this Sunday.
But she better state in no uncertain terms that she will NOT consider a third party run or support anyone in a third party. She better nip that in the bud because if Trump or Cain get it in their heads that they can win a third party race this country is doomed.
I’m staying out of it from now on when it comes to Palin. I’m tired of the game because it’s not a game. I’ll sit back and keep an open mind. But this third party nonsense is just that and the exact opposite of what I would expect Palin to even entertain. The fact that she didn’t forcefully shoot it down makes me wonder where her heart really is. I admire Palin because she has always said what she means and means what she says. I am not against political tactics. But this is a line in the sand for me and she needs to get back behind it for me to stay on her side.
- Spartan
Let me ask you this? Has at any time since November, has the House leadership shown in any way shape or form, acknowledged what a difference the Tea Party made in the House sweep? Has Boehner tripped over himself to bring in those that ‘we the people’ put in place to change the dynamics of what the nation is facing financially? Many in leadership have been backpedaling away from Paul Ryan. THE ONLY guy who has come up with any kind of plan to address what is coming. Compared to a budget by this president that didn’t get ONE vote in the senate. Boehner gave him a slap on the wrist the other day and a two week window to come up with a plan for Libya? Like that is going to happen. But let’s go play golf. Does that in any way satify you that leadership right now in the GOP can beat Obama?
It isn’t Sarah who will create a third party. It’s the established GOP that will force it. And I don’t believe for a minute it would turn into the likes of a Ross Perot or Ron Paul movement. GOP leadership has not shown me ANYTHING supporting what historically changed in November in the House. And that is Sarah’s message. Step up to the plate, or get out of the way. The pressure is on the GOP! Not Sarah. She is making them prove themselves to the American people. I can guarantee that many politicians wished for the day that the American people didn’t know what was really going on in Washington. Every move they make is now scrutinized. Sarah brings more attention to that. That’s why they hate her. Her battle isn’t with the people. Her battle is with the entrenched political machines and the media. She has to take to take back the main battlefield before she can move into the easier territories. Fight with her, not against her.
- Jaynie59
A third party run by anyone claiming any kind of Tea Party or conservative ideals will guarantee the re-election of Barack Obama. That is the one thing that WILL guarantee the re-election of Barack Obama.
Palin needs to understand now that she will lose her support and influence if she does not reject any third party 2012 run.
I’m not going to argue with you. I’ve stuck my neck out for Palin for more than two years now but I draw the line here. She must reject a third party run in 2012 or she will be to blame for an Obama second term. I think she’s smart enough to know that and will do so on Sunday if not before.
- Persephone
I saw this last night…
And it gave me a chill to hear her talking about a 3rd Party run right now.I hope that she is just trying to wake up the brain dead Republican elitists and put some fear into them.
A 3rd Party ticket runs the risk of splitting the Anti-Obama voters and handing a win to the Marxist-in-Chief.Other than that, it was a great interview.
Love the way she said “lllliar” so many times.
Heheh. - Rshill7
Yes, you never hear a politician calling someone the truth, which in these cases is this, ‘liars’.
You know of the gang of six. DC also has the gang of liars who ply their trade in that false demagogic way they have…every time.
True people call lies, lies. They call people who tell these lies, liars. I appreciated Sarah calling them what they are and relating what they have done and are doing…again!
I don’t think she’s going third party, I agree with your hope that she is firing an idealogic shot across the bow that says, Halt, the people are going to search your ship for contraband! If they find contraband, you’re to be keelhauled…after being lashed to the mast, where you’ll be awarded extra stripes. If the rest of your crew doesn’t set the sail and trim said sail for the proper course and with maximum efficiency, you little sailors called republicans may find yourself out of a party/boat and dashed upon the rocks. Land Ho!
I do not believe she (S.P) would ever run as an independent with O’ in such dire need of ouster.
Some republicans are going to feel similar to Old Mother Hubbard when she looked in her cupboard. If you’ll recall, she found the cupboard bear, er bare…like republican ballot boxes will be…come primary season. Grrrrrrr!
- Persephone
Some excellent remarks there, Rbear.
LLLove the shot-across-the-bow marine metaphor.
I think if Old Mother Hubbard checks the cupboards on the good ship WillardRomney…she would find a steaming load contraband.
Willard-the-RINO-Rat has already earned his ticket for a right long keelhauling. - Cindy08
Oh, Rshill, you’re right on the money! Thanks for brightening up our days with your sense of humor! I always look up to your posts for that!
- voted against carter
Little history is need here,..
This is EXACTLY why, and HOW the Republican Party started.
No one to day alive REMEMBERS the Whig Party.
Whigs Party??
The Republican Party was created in 1854 to combat the threat of slavery’s extension into the NEW territories, and to promote more VIGOROUS MODERNIZATION of the economy.
Abraham Lincoln was the FIRST Republican to run for president, and won in 1860.
Before that it was the Whigs and the Democrat Party.
And by the way, the Democrat Party was the party of the SLAVE OWNERS.
And It hasn’t changed ANY since then.
This is ONE MORE REASON you NEED Sarah Palin NOW more than EVER.
- Jaynie59
I’m all for a third party in 2016. Just not 2012. There is not enough time to organize the structure needed for that. We have to get Obama out of the White House. If he gets four more years it won’t matter what happens in 2016.
- Dailywalk365
A third party is a very bad idea. If you need an example then just look at England’s government system. It is ineffective and inept.
Sarah Palin says the GOP should be fearing the possibility of a third-party rising up because the people are simply not happy with what they are doing in Congress. She cites the lack of a concerted aggressive message on the part of the GOP to tell the American public that the reason there hasn’t been a budget passed in over 700 days is because the Democrats are derelict in their duty to pass one. She also cites how many in the GOP are vacillating on their promise to repeal ObamaCare, now suggesting that they can just tweak it.
She hits Obama and Pelosi hard for lying about Paul Ryan’s fix for Medicare, saying that the Democrats are the ones who will destroy Medicare by simply letting it go bankrupt.
She’s tough on everyone in this interview and there’s much more and all three parts are great. Enjoy!
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Yes, you never hear a politician calling someone the truth, which in these cases is this, ‘liars’.
You know of the gang of six. DC also has the gang of liars who ply their trade in that false demagogic way they have…every time.
True people call lies, lies. They call people who tell these lies, liars. I appreciated Sarah calling them what they are and relating what they have done and are doing…again!
I don’t think she’s going third party, I agree with your hope that she is firing an idealogic shot across the bow that says, Halt, the people are going to search your ship for contraband! If they find contraband, you’re to be keelhauled…after being lashed to the mast, where you’ll be awarded extra stripes. If the rest of your crew doesn’t set the sail and trim said sail for the proper course and with maximum efficiency, you little sailors called republicans may find yourself out of a party/boat and dashed upon the rocks. Land Ho!
I do not believe she (S.P) would ever run as an independent with O’ in such dire need of ouster.
Some republicans are going to feel similar to Old Mother Hubbard when she looked in her cupboard. If you’ll recall, she found the cupboard bear, er bare…like republican ballot boxes will be…come primary season. Grrrrrrr!
Oh, Rshill, you’re right on the money! Thanks for brightening up our days with your sense of humor! I always look up to your posts for that!
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