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Buy your ammo now!!!!
- Tyler
Actually I think such an ideal is a noble idea (being that people would be less likely to want to snap and kill someone if they have to pay a lot to do it), but just as any other law restricting gun use…this will only hinder the law-abiders and the bad guys will still have access to the cheaper lead bullets.
I will never own a gun because I don’t feel the need to use them, but I’m with Beck and the rest of you 2nd Amendment lovers on this one.
- no_treble
The EPA has been beating this drum for decades. Lead shot was banned for waterfowl hunting in 1992, and the jury is still out on whether it has made any difference at all in wildlife or their habitats in general. Further, shot shell manufacturers are still attempting to come up with an equal alternative to this day. The alternatives exist, but performance is much different and must be dealt with by increasing the powder charge (read: teeth jarring recoil) or using tungsten which is more than 15 times the cost of lead by weight.
Ironically (in relation to this article) I’ve just gotten into casting my own lead bullets, because it’s more interesting to me when I understand the complete science behind hardness/pressure/velocity with different materials, and it’s also “old school” which I tend to gravitate to. I read mounds of studies before deciding to make and hunt with lead alloy I make myself, and despite some claims that hunting with lead bullets will virtually kill the meat consumer overnight, the actual scientific facts indicate that a lower velocity pure lead projectile leaves strikingly less lead residue near the area of the shot than does a high velocity round containing mostly copper with a smaller lead core.
Despite all the above rambling, here’s a question: How did hundreds of millions of people make their own lead bullets by the billions spread over hundreds of years, hunt unprecedented amounts of game with them (no hunting seasons or wildlife management, organizations which, by the way, were started by hunters as a way to save wildlife… where was PETA then?), eat that game, and somehow wildlife continued to thrive and people continued to live healthy lives?
I do believe in treating God’s creation with respect and with an eye towards conservation. But the EPA will have us believe that practically everything is killing the earth and must be stopped. So far, this has only served to ratchet the price of goods continually higher (with manufacturing costs skyrocketing to comply with the growing myriad of regulations), stifle innovation, clamp down on the kinds of freedoms our forefathers were trying to protect, and generally regulate us into oblivion.
The bottom line is, the EPA needs an injection of new leadership, and they need to come under the oversight of congress.
- Petescutlery
theyn even want to ban it in fishing lures no more old sinkers
dont hunt dont fish
some people need to get a life they cant run there own and are trying to run ours
can we buy these people a ticket to russia they would be happier and us also - Kirk
EPA also was a big fan of MTBE….remember that gasoline additive that poisoned Lake Tahoe, and many other wells and water supplies. Carol Brawner. ech. get her out of there before she kills us all.
- Molly Sturgeon
Never say never, Tyler; you don’t know what the future holds. When you or your loved ones’ lives are at stake, you’ll get a gun.
- Tyler
No…it’s definitely never. I cannot kill another person intentionally. I will do what it takes to defend the ones I love, but will try not to kill if I can prevent it. I’m able to fend for myself and those I care about without a weapon.
Besides…I never said I wouldn’t get a tazer gun. It only takes a second for the millions of volts to temporarily paralyze someone and send them to the ground.
- Anonymous
Actually taser guns run at approximately 50,000 volts and their effectiveness also depends on power. Power = voltage x current. Also the range is usually limited to 15-35 feet. At 50 feet it would be like bringing a toy water pistol to a gun fight. You have a right to your beliefs. So do people that believe differently.
- Msturg
I wish I could say that I could fend for myself and my small children without a weapon, but I cannot. Killing someone would change my life forever, I know, but I do not want to get close enough to someone to use a laser. As a mother, I will do anything to defend my children. Though, I don’t know if I could have said that before I was a mother. Maybe it’s that “Mama Grizzly” thing Palin was talking about?!
- http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie Castillo
I would probably be in the same boat- I don’t think I can imagine a situation in which I could bring myself to hurt somebody else like that- but it’s a precautionary measure that I think is important for myself and family.
Taser is also twice as much as a gun and not guaranteed to stop. Target practice with a gun is also a very fun hobby and the fact that it can be used as a weapon is an upside.
- http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie Castillo
additive in octane boosters- it’s funny that it was used to replace lead and lead is the contaminant they want to ban in bullets.
The real intention is to make ammunition very expensive. Getting rid of the 2nd amendment in the same manner the Chicago gun laws do- Just make it terribly difficult or expensive and since EPA is not elected it looks like Congress and the executive are relatively innocent of allowing this to happen.
- Tyler
I couldn’t imagine taser guns being less voltage than a stun gun. As I said before though…I’m not saying get rid of guns and use tasers instead. That was just my own personal deal. I’m all for peoples’ rights to self-defense however they feel the need to do so.
- Anonymous
Stun guns use much higher voltage since unlike the taser, the stun gun doesn’t penetrate the skin.
- sodizzy
take cass to court! he can’t do this.
- KeninMontana
There has been some testing recently with good results of aluminum bullets as a viable replacement for lead.
- KeninMontana
There has been some testing recently with good results of aluminum bullets as a viable replacement for lead.
- Bird lover
I rarely support any of the lefty stuff, but lead bullets are bad news. They have killed many condors for instance. Any animal that eats carrion is susceptible. I think Glenn has enough to do without worrying about this issue. Why doesn’t he come down on the corrupt BLM or the FDA? This issue seems like he is trying to aim one of his bullets at Cass Sustein just because its him. Fine with me, but don’t kill birds and other wildlife when you do it. Find another issue to jostle this guy with. I’m with you 99% of the time Glenn, but not on this one. I think better alternatives are to be had which we can gladly shove down Cass’ throat.
- Sawdustking
I’m not sure if this is an actual attack on the second amendment or a perceived attack. I read up on the subject a little and it seams like they EPA may be acting on legitimate (if not overstated) concerns about wildlife ingesting the lead. If it is an attack on the second amendment, it’s a pretty piss poor one. First the EPA’s charter expressly forbids them from regulating ammunition. So other than making a recommendation to congress they don’t have the legal authority to do anything. Any laws they pass would be thrown out by the courts. On top of that, ammunition companies are already experimenting with non-lead bullet materials with some good results. The best materials are more expensive but consider that there is only about 2 cents worth of lead in your average hunting round, even if the best materials turn out to be 4 or 5 times more expensive it’s hardly enough to be considered “gun control”. If they take a measured approach to phase out lead or make the lead less likely to escape the non-lead jackets than this is much to do about nothing. If not, it’s time to abolish the EPA, they’ve clearly overstepped their authority.
Beck says that the EPA has opened the comment period on the policy of banning lead bullets which he says is being done by Cass Sunstein. Beck says this is a direct assault on the 2nd Amendment and will lead to very expensive copper ammunition if the ban goes through. Basically, you can have your guns but you will pay through the nose to use them.
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