The only person crazier than Rong Paul is Obama. So, given the choice I would vote for the less looney Rong Paul. Otherwise, I hope it's Santorum that wins the nomination. Going third party is suicide right now.
Glenn Beck has officially lost me if he keeps talking this way. Rong Paul is perhaps the most unelectable candidate for president I've seen in my life time. His complete lack of logic when it comes to foreign policy is scary. RP puts words in my mouth when he falsely characterizes the unfortunately named "war on terror" and he sounds like Frodo taking up for Gollum when talks about Iran. He attracts the Alex Jones crowd and the Truthers etc. I"m surprised he doesn't wear foil over his head to keep the aliens from probing his mind. Rong Paul supposedly has good constitutional stances, but notable people have argued he as nutty position there as well (Mark Levin).
Nobody is perfect, but voting for Paul over Newt is like voting for Boromir or Aragorn.
I believe in Mitt Romney if Knewt wins the primary i,ll vote for obama which i did not do last time but Knewt Ginrich is not a conservative he is all about big government i don,t understand south carolina people must love big government because thats what they voted for .
Obviously you do not understand his foreign policy or his stand on any of the other issues you have mentioned. But not fare for the Newt attacks either. Really we all should focus on limited government, fiscal responsibility, and free markets. If we can do this and work together we will be better off and have a higher chance of succeeding. Remember this, the elite in the GOP want Romney and I do not like someone making my choice for me. Personally I think Ron Paul sends a bigger message to the GOP but either way we have to get past this hurdle if we are to ever get a go at Barrack. One thing I do want to say in RPs defense though, there is no candidate who will have the power of all branches and will not be able to get hardly crap done so to think one person like Ron Paul will weaken this country is just ludicrous. But again you were just returning the favor for the Newt attack which was not fair either.
Maybe your pick just could not win. There would be no reason to vote for another candidate if your candidate was the best. It is not everyday we have the power to change our country and vote for whom best fits us, your guy just simply did not have enough people agree with him.
Hey Deduce, I totally agree with you. If RP breaks out and the crap stops, they will not be able to stop him and it will be a land side from that point. This is what they are trying to prevent.
Oh, and if someone wants to say I am wrong then stop the negative untrue attacks and watch what happens. Dare you.
Why do you have to be so negative about Ron Paul when he is actually doing pretty well. He is statistically tied with Santorum, and Mitt where they have 7 delegates each. Why not just talk positive about the person you support because that will not win over me to support your guy if you are attacking mine.
I like your approach. You say who you like but also say that you will support others as well if needed to beat Obama. I have considered Newt also and feel he could debate Obama very well and the polls show this. At this point I am backing Ron Paul but will also do what needs to be done in November. But my fight will not stop there because my goal is limited government, fiscal responsibility, and free markets so I will have to keep going for more change and to take out more incumbents in 2014. If this is all of our goals then we will all ultimately win in the end.
I've looked up Harriman, he was also the envoy chosen by Roosevelt to help coordinate the Lend-Lease program both in England and in the USSR. I referenced World War I. Bringing the Russians into Lend-Lease was diplomatically sound at the time during World War II. That is quite a bit different from saying we funded them. Harriman's company had assets seized because it continued trading with Germany following the declaration of war. In regards to Prescott Bush, your article itself questions the validity of whether or not there was actually a connection between Bush, the Thyssens and Consolidated Steel. Did he do anything illegal? No. Was it morally questionable? Yes. Should he have done it? No. But he was never convicted of war crimes nor has his family ever been directly connected to knowingly aiding the enemies of the United States.
As for China. The main reason Chiang lost in China is Chiang. He did not attempt to win the people, which Mao did. He repeatedly made the same military errors in attempting to suppress the communists. We gave him materiel for fighting Japan which was in turn used to fight the communists. It was recommended that since he was not using the materiel appropriately that it should be cut off. At war's end China was somewhat peaceful until the ceasefire signed between the Nationalists and Communists was broken. At this point the USA had more pressing concerns to deal with in Europe and the rebuilding efforts there as well as the start of the Cold War.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we lived in a world without politics and government? This is basically what you argue, which I would argue makes you more of an anarchist than a libertarian. Perhaps you should join the OWS people. I can be conservative without wanting to close down the Fed. The idea that it makes me a fool is quite silly...I think you would feel much better about yourself if you had a sense of humor.
Yet, he never saw a single threat from abroad...the world would be just fine if we stop provoking it to attack us...nothing to see here...move along...move along...
OK, then. Obama is so terrible that we just have to vote for a Republican, even if he'd be a poor president. Also, progressive Democrats believe Republican presidents (see: Bush) are so terrible that they just have to vote for a Democrat, even if he'd be a poor president.
See this neat little box the two parties have us in? See how they all get rich together? See how they always have different rhetoric, but similar policy proposals, and nearly identical policies enacted?
Getting rid of Obama is a noble goal, for sure. But we need more than to get rid of one man, we need to recapture our political system for the people. What would you do to get us out of this box?
People. Vote your conscience. If you don't do so, you don't really practice freedom. Get it? The only thing you know is what you witness, not the information that is presented to you. Always take everything with one eye open and one eye closed. I know it's tempting to want to believe something just because you're told a convincing story. But don't hope for trust, create it through both objective discrimination and actual relationships with others who you meet. The greatest form of fascism is through the psychology of convincing stories. Stay aware, and don't feel good simply about belonging to an idea. Feel good about listening to your soul, and live that. Peace.
Sorry, I don't vote the "lesser of evils" when there's a "genuine good" on the ballot. I'm voting Dr. Paul in the primaries, and if he's not the GOP nominee and runs third party, I'm voting for him there. If he doesn't run at all, I'll write him in anyway. But I'll NEVER, EVER support a war-mongering big-government puke like Gingrich.
As far as history goes, Ron Paul ran for president as a Libertarian. It is actually a party and joined the Republican party only because he knows he will get no attention as a Libertarian, so it is you who do not know history. And dude, I don't need to read anything to know who started the Tea Party movement. I am an investor who watches CNBC every day. I saw Rick Santelli and heard his words. Shortly thereafter Tea Parties sprang up all around the country. This was after Obama, who was President at the time, not in 2007, announced his first mortgage bailout to people who could not afford the houses they bought. Do not think to lecture me about how our government works and history, my friend. Your arrogance is not backed up by your facts.
Both sides of the Media are attacking Newt. That's what I call the perfect candidate.
Newt called Palestine a fraud and that's when the Media knew they had an emergency. Someone running around telling the truth alerts the entire State controlled media. "This is not a drill! We got a Joseph McCarthy on her hands!"
Who believes anything that crackpot Beck has to say. He was fired from FoxNews because of his delusional thinking and seeing Nazis around ever corner. The guy is a total loser and a phony! I wouldn't go across the street to spit on Beck because he is such a liar! Beck just wants his name in the news and that is it.
Ummmm.... check your facts "causa". You are WRONG!
He waited until his CONTRACT was up, and did not renew it! Either stick with the facts or keep thine pie hole shut! You are nothing but a Progressive, leftist, totalitarian HACK, that trolls sites like this just to spew your hate and BS. So... here's an idea....
GO BACK UNDER THE COMMUNIST ROCK YOU CRAWLED OUT FROM UNDER!!!!
LOL, George. His record in office is pure corruption. He was run out of Congress in disgrace because of 85 ethics violations, and was fined $300,000.He is on whatever side of any issue that he is being paid for. He wants the Constitution to die, i.e. see Hofler.He took what amounts to $1.7 Million in bailout funds from Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae,& more than $35 million from big pharma. He is a warmonger, for big government, the Patriot Act, TARP, and for endless spending. Every candidate except for Ron Paul would be a continuation of the destruction & the growing police state.
Only Ron Paul can restore this country. RON PAUL 2012
Also, for Marc Matthews and others below.....
Go to those links I listed below AND goto this link too....
Unless you're a Progressive hack yourself, you cannot deny the words OUT OF THE HORSE'S MOUTH! We can NOT vote for Newt... that is... IF you are a true Constitutionalist, or Conservative!
Please folks... WAKE UP! Do your own homework, research and the like. STOP listening to those that are touting the same ole' same ole' tired GOP Establishment lines!!!
The "Author" of this piece above... a question if I may?
ARE YOU SERIOUS??
Look at these videos on these links first, then come back and RE-WRITE your article (or at least you wise up and re-write it!).
Pay attention people. Newt says FDR was the greatest president of modern time not because of his policies, but becuase of his effectiveness as a leader. If you step away from the montage of him repeating his admiration for FDR, you would hear WHY he likes him. Newt will be our next President becuase of his clarity of vision, his charisma, and his experience. He will get done what needs doing.
Obama, Newt & Mitt, the 3 of them are all about BIG government. The 2 Republicans mentioned are both just variations of father & son Bush. Freddie Mac was a major player in bankrupting the country... old Newt was on their payroll. The Wall Street gangster banksters run the FED which is the #1 enemy of fiscal sanity... and old Mitt's contributions are made up primarily (90%) from Goldman Sachs, Chase, JP Morgan, etc, etc. Join the revolution... vote for Ron Paul.
What a lovely non sequitur...my point is there are a whole lot of economic prognosticators out there who don't really understand economics or our political structure and you're pretty high on the list with your comments.
Ron Paul the godfather of the Tea Party? The Tea Party started after a Rick Santelli on air rant on CNBC. It had absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul. Half the Tea Party is more angry at Obama's cuts to Medicare? Does that make them progressives? This is the same old Ron Paul lunacy coming from people who were never Republicans to start with. Heck, Ron Paul is a Republican in name only.
This is purely wrong, with Newt you have the risk of be left without any money, but with Ron Paul you and Israel are risking your own life... which one is worse?
As much I like you, big mistake here Glenn...
Glenn any vote for a third Party can not beat Obama, so is a vote stolen from the GOP primary winner - and is a vote to re-elect Obama
I am sure you know that?
Here is a slice of the ABSOLUTE REAL problem we face...everyone of us!!!!! Right now, LIVE on c-span, debate on extending the payroll tax cut. Ok. Here is the interesting part. And PLEASE dont tell me ...well, that's just 'how it works, or that's how it is'....this is the problem. The rules of the congress are quite precise!!! Some member 'yields' to a fellow 'like minded' house member...lets say...2 minutes. Folks, just being there is their job. They should know how to do their job, right?! Without exception, each member will take MORE time than they have been yielded. Kind of like SPENDING...MORE than they have to spend, OUR TAX DOLLARS. You and i go to work on monday, get a check on friday. How about if we all go to work on monday and on friday we get a BILL?!! We owe THEM!!! How crazy is that?! They talk more than their alloted time because that is what they do. Period. Spend more than they have. And there you have it.
You can point out where Ron Paul has abused the constitution right? Otherwise if I were you, I would feel really stupid right now!
Now now Louie....you don't want to be labeled an anti Semite because you think Israel can take of it self without my money.
God do you know how retarded you sound with the whole Democrats/Marxist thing...
Read a book about history, maybe two, oh and one without pictures preferably. Hell read the Communist Manifesto, Dems may be spineless, but they are Americans you asshat.
That's nice, now how bout backing up your position with some facts? How bout answering some of my questions above Mrs. sensitivity? [Did I get it right now?] If you feel insulted when somebody calls you sensitive then stop being so sensitive! Now lets try to start this over and have a real conversation. Above is my position on Israel can you provide ANY facts or even well thought out opinions on why I am wrong? Or do you want to keep trying to make the case that I am a hypocrite because I said the words "shut up" in a sentence and that somehow I have magical powers, and internet authority, to sensor you with these words, therefore, since I believe in free speech as a libertarian I am a hypocrite. If we are all done with that now, maybe you can go ahead and start producing some facts please.
To Angelccoor : Isn't that the truth. The Ron Paul supporters can't express themselves without the vulgarity and name calling. They are perfect examples of what the "dumbing down of America" has resulted in. Must add, - I found at the library a couple of days ago Newt's "To Try Men's Souls". (one I hadn't read, written in 2009 yet) I am just getting into it. When you read his books you can sure see why the hippie-drug-culture-anti-war Ron Paul supporters wouldn't like him. Newt really LOVES America and has the moxy and savoirfaire to deal with domestic and foreign affairs.
You see what I see and many many conservatives see. The Ron Paul block is a recycled version of the drugged anti-war hippie culture. You put it into words better than anybody.
Your friend didn't help Clinton win! Bush did. Maybe Bush should have dropped out of the race and let Perot run solo so the vote wasn't split OHHHHH that's right. It is only bad if a third party splits the vote not the republican right? If republicans think the vote shouldn't get split maybe the republican candidate should drop out and let the third party candidate run solo against opposition. Then third party supporters could tell republicans to "Hold your nose and vote for our guy" You are right. Most Paul supporters do want drugs legalized and history tells us [impossible to even debate by the way] that prohibiting products people want especially addictive ones leads to crime,fraud, gangs, and federal spending! Remember Copone? You are also right that we want our troops we pay for back home to protect us here which by the way is the only thing the Constitution authorizes! [again inarguable point, it is simply true.] These guys are not "worthless" they are patriot constitutionalists. How do you know his ideas are wrong or won't work? Can you tell me where in the last hundred years we have tried them to know? Libertarians are what conservatives claim to be and what liberals wish they could be!
What would you expect from somebody who believes he is becoming a god?
(Mormon doctrine of Eternal Progression.)
While I'm not real happy with Gingrich, a third party vote will result in 4 more years of Obama assuring the destruction of the United States as we know it.
Beck's got it almost exactly right. I'm adding that Gingrich automatically invests a major Third Party Conservative with panache. The media is proppring him up, and will take him down with a thousand cuts... and delighted to be serving up another McCain. We'd not be in this mess if Romney had won in Florida (Crist). Recall the "temperament" insinuations about McCain that lasted until the '08 debates? Then, their election secure, the media set out to destroy Palin, as a potential force. Gingrich, nominated, will simply be a historic loss. With all the great R's running...this is it?
OH YEAH..just what we want...to do!! Bring in a 3rd party..to divide votes and hand the JOB right back over to barack insane ohMAMA!
USE your heads people... i think we need To unite and support who gets the Nomination..because right now 4 years of someone else..IS better than the 3 years of misery we've had with barack....................
Glenn Beck needs to STFU! It is because of stubborn pigheadedness by the hard right in the party, that Obama won in the first place. They refused to support McCain (because apparently he wasn't more conservative than the Premier Obama) which leads me to ask the question...Who's side are you on? As for Beck, he got chased out of Fox News for being a blowhard nutjob. His opinion on who should or should not run is irrelevant.
When Newt says that FDR was the greatest and best president in the 20th century it should cause conservatives everywhere to perk up. When Newt calls himself a Wilsonian it should cause conservatives everywhere to realize that Newt is a Washington progressive in conservative clothing. Newt supported a NATIONAL MANDATE on health insurance until he flip flopped against it when his campaign fell apart a few months ago. Not 15 years ago, a few months ago.
Past election records show that mostly the block of voters that would be considered RP supporters don't vote anyway. They just "smoke", and wave their anti-war placcards around.
Newt balanced the budget by RAISING taxes and raiding the Social Security trust fund with Al Gore casting the deciding vote. How are those conservative positions exactly?