Glenn Beck: I’d consider Ron Paul as third party over Newt Gingrich

you are a paulbot and nobody cares what you think mitchell

Losing battle, Jim, first, RP has no chance of getting the GOP nomination, and if he goes third party, he has no chance of winning the election. All that will do is guarantee another 4 years for Obamanation to “finish the job.” You guys rant about RP’s stand on constitutional principles, yet what part of “We the People” doesn’t RP understand. He may have the best of intentions, but he is blind to what he is doing, driving his personal agenda over the good of the nation.

That statement is insane! Who gives a damn if somebody can beat Obama if he isn’t better for the country than Obama is? I have always been a good little republican drone and voted for the republican candidate. NO MORE! I will vote my conscience. I would rather have total freedom than just a “Little more freedom than I had before”. Newt has a despicable voting record in many regards, which is well known to all. When it all goes to hell either under Obama or the new republican “savior” that will just keep up the status quo. I will say I voted my damn conscience for a man who did more with the constitution then wipe his ass with it!

Sadly it seems the GOP has found THEIR candidate.
Same thing happened with McCain.
Totally ignored the people and shoved McCain down our throats.

All the talk of taking back our country our White-house no more RINOS?
Where have all those people gone?

We had people backing anyone that was not a born and bred Politician.
Now we have people claiming better than the OTHER guy..
Better than the Other Guy lost a seat in DC ..but on principal it was the right move.
Sent Shivers through the GOP..

Sadly the GOP is getting comfy all over again.. What Have they done but whine, we got the BEST we could get.. BUDGET cuts?!?! and our House Leader is pulling compromise or golfing with Obama?
Is that what Newt voters want just another passive, go along, pat each others backs, Congress Senate and President ?

Grow some and get behind Dr. Paul.. all your getting is the truth from him and ” lip service” from egotists..

Turned my stomach to read he took out a *new contract, promised fidelity to his latest wife.. that is what you want leading America? His mate is none of my concern, however, once a cheater always a cheater. ..

Instead of town halls he is holding books signings. Shows me right off he is in it for the MONEY and I can imagine will attempt to take his side arm on Better vacations then Moochelle got..

Wake up people either we are serious enough to stop the same old or we get back in line, serfs for the GOP. Stay the same course and relive the nightmare over and again.

Ron Paul or we gain nothing..

Newt a bigger ego then Obama and mark my words he will attempt to out due EVERYTHING O did. Starting with the vacations, the bracelet, the designers and imagine how many assistants his “Callista” will need..

If the man cannot honor a pledge, he is as worthless as a cigarette machine in a cancer ward.

Are you totally insane? Any of the Republican candidates would be better for the country than Obama, the Marxist, who is committed to the destruction of the country. Ron Paul doesn’t stand a chance of being elected President, either as a Republican party candidate, or as a third party candidate.

I totally agree, but I think RP has a better chance than people give him credit. I have had it with holding my nose when I cast my ballot as I believe have many in the electorate! Give it a month or so. Newt’s campaign will implode and when that happens, Ron Paul will pick up most of his supporters. Worst case scenario, the Marxist in Chief wins in 2012. The Republicans will pick up the Senate and retain the House i.e Obama’s agenda is halted!

I’ll agree with you in one area, that we have to get back to Constitutional government,as interpreted by the Founders. Both parties have only given lip service to that document, their primary focus being power and privilege and the retention of same.
I too am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, but we are at a tipping point in this country, and the primary focus needs to be getting Obama out of office in 2012. Once that is accomplished, we need to get rid of the establishment Republicans, replacing them with candidates dedicated to the downsizing of the federal government and dedicated to the Constitution.

OK, let’s wait and see what happens at the convention.

You sound exactly like a friend of mine who helped Clinton win by voting his conscience for Ross Perot. Ron Paul is the new Ross Perot and will be remembered in the history books exactly like Perot and Nader are. Worthless idiots who helped the wrong guy become president. If you are a conservative (which most Paul supporters are not) then you couldn’t stand by and watch Obama win another 4 years. Most of Paul’s support comes from college age kids who believe he will legalize all drugs and cut back the military and get us out of the war zones. Anyone who believes this is an idiot and anyone who wants these things is a libertarian fool.

You should probably get back to looking for your ‘cleanest dirty shirt’.

Maybe your pick just could not win. There would be no reason to vote for another candidate if your candidate was the best. It is not everyday we have the power to change our country and vote for whom best fits us, your guy just simply did not have enough people agree with him.

Obama is better than NONE of the GOP candidates – criminal actions, socialist/communist endorsements, least transparent of any POTUS ever, spends MILLIONS to hide personal records, Both he and wife lost their law licenses, a law he had just signed required him to fire 4 czars – he refused to follow that law, highest welfare, highest unemployment, largest deficit in just 3 years, worst political cronyism, only Christian belief is GOD D*** America, criminal associations would not allow him or wife to accept employment in the FBI, He passed 2800+ page ObamaCare and we are STILL learning the price we will have to pay for that, endorsed by Hamas, Unions, SEIU, worked as attorney for ACORN before he lost his license and ACORN was disqualified for fed funds so they split into 4 different differently named groups so Obama could re-fund them, etc., etc., etc.

Yepper, how dare he run for president!!!

That messes up the status-quo, and we just cannot have that!

RP? Is Ross Perot running again? Look what happened the last that twit …. Oh, not Ross Perot. Ron Paul, you say? Well, that’s different then. Only not very much.

Mmhmm. You are one of the righteous (er, “wise”) ones we have to thank for the splendid results of that election, I gather. Thanks so much. No seriously.

How about people who call themselves conservative and vote for a man who would weaken the country by legalizing drugs, allowing illegal aliens to come here in droves, and wants to weaken our military even more than the liberals do? That’s what Ron Paul will do if he has his way (which he won’t because the house and senate will thankfully stop his crazy ideas). He’s a libertarian so why doesn’t he run as one? He is crazy and will only help libtards like you make us suffer through 4 more years of Obama.

Obviously you do not understand his foreign policy or his stand on any of the other issues you have mentioned. But not fare for the Newt attacks either. Really we all should focus on limited government, fiscal responsibility, and free markets. If we can do this and work together we will be better off and have a higher chance of succeeding. Remember this, the elite in the GOP want Romney and I do not like someone making my choice for me. Personally I think Ron Paul sends a bigger message to the GOP but either way we have to get past this hurdle if we are to ever get a go at Barrack. One thing I do want to say in RPs defense though, there is no candidate who will have the power of all branches and will not be able to get hardly crap done so to think one person like Ron Paul will weaken this country is just ludicrous. But again you were just returning the favor for the Newt attack which was not fair either.

And apparently some still aren’t, I swear I’ll never understand some peoples desire to continue being scammed and lied to..there must be a medical term for this terrible affliction.

yeah it’s tragic to wach this take place.

It appears that we have a prime example in rick08.

It is talk like this that pushes people away. You do this and then later when you lose you blame us when the blame really just comes back to people like you who turn off people like us. Last I looked RP was doing very well and you may not like that but it is for that reason you should stop with the negative attacks because you have no idea how many people you are pushing away and you will then lose.

If Ron Paul was for real, wouldn’t he, at least, question the Constitutionality of Obama’s birth? He said NOTHING! And then voted for confirmation of the election results in early 2009, because his election results were in that vote as well. Also, I agree with Moose.

You must mean Barrack Obama because Paul will never get the nomination nor will he ever win. Put down the crack pipe and go to rehab.

Ron Paul has as much chance at getting elected president as Pee Wee Herman.

Seems like mother12 was unable to see through the wool.

sounds like intellegence to me, I think what is lurking behind your skull though has been brainwashed by the MSM to see only what they want you to see Ron Paul is waaay better then Neo-con Newt

Newt is intelligent, but he is a ‘liberal’ who supported a single payer mandate, climate change legislation (along with 400 other co sponsored bills with Pelosi), the forming of the unconstitutional department of education, the irresponsible loans from Freddie and fannie (in fact, while Ron Paul warned of the danger caused by these loans, Newt attacked him). Newt has been a friend to lobbyists and special interests (even bragged about it). His spending and domestic policy match Obama’s quite nicely.

What is Newts plan to cut spending? He doesn’t have one!

And what have they done since?

Yepper, MoBigGov!

ROLMFAO!

You sound as though you are speaking from experience. Did you pull out your knee pads and take a turn at the presidential (and Newt’s) stalf? I’ll bet the line is long to get to O’Bama’s. The LAMEstream media alone is enough to keep O’Bama engorged for years….to work your way to the front of the line means you must have ‘special’ talents.

Wow! Using two polar opposites to make your point?
The flopsweat has leaked into your grey matter.

Obama’s penis is from his neck up. I suspect so is yours.

Please, do not confuse the zombies.

Ad-hom much?

Newt is our Barack.

You’re a hippie paultard, you should feel stupid just for that fact alone. All you are backing him for is his pledge to make all drugs legal and prostitution legal. That way you can go to work for yourself to pay for your drug habit. Let me ask you this, if Paul doesn’t get the nod would you vote for another Republican candidate or will your vote go to Obama?

Okay…cool. Can you send me the YouTube link where Cheney says Bin Laden/Al Qaeda wasn’t responsible for 9/11? Then I will submit to your superior intellect and knowledge of politics and history.

Sounds to me like “setting up” is what your bar tender has been doing for you a lot lately. DT’s might explain the delusions.

Translation: “I have no argument”

it’s on youtube just key it in. cheney says bin laden wasn’t responsible. i seen it. go look at it..what more direction do you need? ahhaah youtube this one, just key in NYPD POLICE TRANSMISSION MURAL VAN MOSSAD. watch this and see why they must have a paid zombie in office. look at obamas pics all over the news. he is wasted, the grey eyes and huge pupils. i don’t know….i’m just sayin’.

But you have an easier time believing that Barack Hussein Obama who’s name just coincidently rymes with the supposed arch enemies of this great empire was born in Hawaii, did virtually NOTHING for about 35 years, joind congress and was president less than 4 years later. This man obtained superstar status for being black I guess (I’m black so let me curb the rasist labels right there) Won a Nobel Peace Prize and later went on to kill just as many, if not more people than the criminal Bush did. He was able to achieve AAALLL these wonderful things on his own merit thanks to the great opportunities our country provides us right? thats easier for you to believe than this is all just theater, that there IS DEFINATLY s sinister plot afoot, always has been, AND IS NO LONGER A SECERT!! people ARE exposing 911, THERE IS irrefutable evidence, just because Katie Couric hasn’t done a story on it DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT REAL!! she’s to busy interviewing Beyonce’ to care about the NDAA bill or any REAL thing affecting US right now, THEY ALL ARE!! there are a handful of people at the top responsible for ALL MEDIA CONTENT WE SEE!! you thin you have a choice? you have the left and right hand feeding you different tasting POISON!!….ONE CAN’T HELP BUT GET FRUSTERATED!!!!

it TRUELY is unbelievably MIND BOGGLING man!!!!! what PLANET am I on right now?

Let them fight their own revolution for change. We had to! There are literally no Islamist/Muslims in the United States that have ever made your wife/girlfriend do anything, ever! Terrorism is not a country, or a people it is a tactic. Terrorists are criminals and nothing more. Just like crazy assholes that shoot up schools, or kill their wives. This is a law enforcement issue, not a military one. I would much rather have my tax paid soldiers here at home watching my back then overseas getting shot trying to police the world.

Try getting out of your neighbors business.

If they want something different then they will have to fight for it.
We’ve done nothing to change their situation.

Maybe you believe that if we kill enough of their children they will come around?

When did Israel become the 51st state?

Now you’re just back-peddling so give it a rest. And I happen to be a woman who shows a lot more self-control than you do. I don’t lower myself by calling people names and insulting them. It has nothing to do with sensitivity and everything to do with class.

Are you attempting to convince us ….. or yourself?

Hey, I’ve been mislabeled before. lol

Most of these gimps cannot define ‘Semite’, so I can hardly worry about their labels.

Amateur Hour Is Over!
Ronald Ernest Paul 2012

Wuh?

Ohhh, and not just a “lawyer”… a DEFENSE lawyer! And, yes, you’re right, you’re not a liberal. After all, most liberals have a conscious. You’re far worse… a “libertarian” (from the word “libertine”).

Paleo-cons are almost extinct. Its such a backwards and unproductive view of the world that got replaced by the ability to read books and become educated.

The literal meaning of “neo-con” is not entirely “new conservative.” It more closely means a new way of looking at old ideas. If you wanted to look at the root of each part of the word, the literal meanings would be redundant, and in turn just mean gibberish.

The movement of neo-conserativism has its foundation in the beliefs in using a powerful federal government, especially by financial and military means, as a conduit for enforcing populist conservative ideas.

Of course what happens when ideologues that believe in using the military and the economy to affect change are then placed in charge of both the economy AND the military is what we’ve seen since 2001, with multiple financially unsustainable wars with no real goal in mind.

Given where this country is now, financially, militarily and economically … neo-con isn’t much of a badge of honor, its a symbol of what helped ripped this nation apart.

In either case, I wouldn’t brag to many people that you’re either a paleo-con or a neo-con. It’s like saying you either don’t think women should have the right to vote, or you think that war is good for the economy. In either case, you’re children will laugh at you as a nostalgic old fool.

I think that’d also be redundant.

In my book, on the federal level, liberals are about as retarded as conservatives. Keep that on a state level, or better yet, the most local government possible.

Personally, I believe in a rock solid contract; and the one I believe the most in is, “The Constitution of the United States.”

It’s a brilliantly written piece. Give it a read. You won’t find anything in there about liberals or conservatives.

I believe in the marketplace of ideas, and I don’t want your warped version of ideology or philosophy inflicted on me anymore than I care to inflict mine onto others. I’d rather have 50 different states with 50 different ways of creating policy instead of the jack-holes in California telling people in New Hampshire they can’t eat trans-fats or smoke cigarettes in their own houses. Likewise, I don’t need the Bible-thumpers in po-dunk Arkansas telling Illinoisans that they’ll burn in Hell for drinking fermented grape juice and therefore go back to prohibition.

I don’t need a rockhead conservative or liberal telling me how to live my life. I’ve served in the military, earned my way through to a masters degree, pay my taxes and make a solid living. I’ll challenge most loud-mouth political fanatics to do the same.

82nd Airborne, infantry; then later a combat medic in the Reserves.

And compared to most of the lunatic crap I read on here, yeah, its definitely special and I hold my work in high esteem. You should take a little bit more pride in yourself.

You sound like Perry – “if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they’ve been brought there by no fault of their own, I don’t think you have a heart. ”

Cry me a river.

If you want to help out, donate to a church or a charity, but don’t purposely create legislation and policy that hamstrings one group of successful people in favor of another that isn’t even here legally. That frame of mind leads to dangerous paths, including policies like affirmative action. In the end, it creates more oppression and poverty then it solves.

On top of that, you might want to go look in a mirror. The things you’re writing, about being mean and selfish and caring more about my country than my own personal freedoms – that’s utilitarianism, the foundations of liberalism. And, its the exact premise that Bush used to push forward The Patriot Act, create “Homeland Security” and the TSA that strip-searches grandmas. Its also the excuse given throughout every single moment of history when a dictator wanted more power.

See, you might not realize this but there are two school of thoughts in our political system that pretty much divide equally down liberal and conservative lines.

Liberals believe in creating policy that says whats good for the whole is good for the individual.

Conservatives believe in creating policy that says whats good for the individual is good for the whole.

Our Bill of Rights, whether you like it or not, was written on the principles of protecting the individual rights, and that’s where being a libertarian steps in. It prevents the religious zealots from forcing us to subscribe to their religious beliefs, and it prevents the environmental whackos from having us all convert to expensive solar energy.

So I don’t care one bit about whether you want to be a liberal or conservative in your home state, but you have absolutely no right whatsoever to use the federal government to push me into a corner.

Now my point in the earlier post was that I’m not hurting anyone, and in fact I think I’m a pretty darn good contributor to our society. I placed the good of the country over myself at the highest stakes possible by putting my ass on the line multiple times.

The “social consciousness” that you advocate are actually just your set of bias and they place more importance of your own ideologies over my own, so you can go stuff it. That’s the sort of tripe that is ruining our country because it lets lemmings like you elect corrupt politicians because he promises you everything under the sun and a free pass straight to Heaven, all you gotta do is vote for him.

Once he’s in office, its the same old thing all over again. But worse, because the one thing a narcissistic morally bankrupt with access to the largest military in the world needs is justification for any perceived provocation.

On the other hand, for the first time in many of our lifetimes there is a candidate running for office who is promising not more, but in fact less.

Wait, what?

Right. He’s saying that these excessive entitlements, wars our friends and families are dying in, and the financial system thats in place will no longer be tolerated. We must return to a federal system that provides a minimum of framework and intervention in our lives. And in doing so – by protecting the rights of the individual – we will be capable of spurning innovation and entrepreneurship.

Yeah, in second though… that’s just a terrible idea. I mean, who would want to be free?

What’s Newt promising? Another way to spend money? The creation of yet another bureaucratic regime? In other words… more and more federal government? More and more spending? More and more war?

Awesome. Seriously. Talk about a guy who is willing to put his country above himself.

I’m only repeating what you said for yourself.

Yeah, I think that the vast majority of “conservatives” have no qualms with increasing the size of government and intrusion into our lives so long as it fits within their preconceived ideologies. All the while completely disregarding the part about increasing_the_size_of_government_and_intrusion_into_our_lives.

So if you’re having problems having a conversation with libertarians, it might be because of your obvious problem with rationalizing inconsistencies within how you view your own political ideology.

Can’t have it both ways Bubba, pick a side.

Anyhow, I used to a tee-totaling conservative back in the day. I couldn’t get enough of Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh … and man, I thought Newt Gingrich was just the guy I wanted to be president one day when he made the “Contract with America.”

Finally, someone would return moral virtues the executive branch and we could toss out the Clinton opportunists.

Fast forward 17 years and the only that’s managed to happen is exchanging one worthless politician for another. And here we are, setting the stage for it happen again.

And Newt, he road the wave of that initial popularity and became one of the nastiest narcissists in government. He betrayed the trust I had in him, as did many of the established republicans and conservatives, and it became quite apparent to me that the only way to fix our federal government is to prevent anymore hostile takeovers.

And that’s where you and I stand apart.

Do you see any shred of inconsistency in stating the Ron Paul doesn’t stand a chance so don’t vote for him, thereby placing your vote with someone that only stands a chance because Ron Paul doesn’t?

I’m not budging on that issue. I’m voting with my moral convictions, not for the Republican or Democrat party, not for liberals or conservatives, but the most honest man to run for president in who knows how long. The only one who has a 30+ year record to back up what he says so I know he isn’t just changing his tune for whatever the latest populist movement is.

I hope your conscious is clear.

“The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre—the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H. L. Mencken

That rabbit hole is filled with knowledge. Please do not blame others for your allergic reaction to knowledge.

And please stop crying.

Very Leftist argument there. Meaning, you got it ‘bass ackwards’.

If Newt Gingrich is the Republican nominee then I will vote for him. In fact, anybody on the Republican side would be a million times better then having O’Bamma win a second term.

Everything O’Bamma does is to help him win a second term even if it hurts the American People. His phony Jobs bill was worthless and he knows it. He put it out there knowing that it would not pass and then he could use it in his campaign against the Republicans. He is not approving the oil pipeline from Canada so he will not make his loony environmentalist friends mad at him. The pipeline would bring millions of gallons of oil into this country which would bring the price of oil down for all of us. It would also create thousands of new jobs for unemployed Americans. America will be doomed if we do not elect a Republican President and take over the Senate and Congress this time.

It would also make us much less dependent on purchasing oil from countries in the middle east and elsewhere who hate us and want to do us harm if they could.

I say, anybody but O’Bamma!

“This is not true. [Gingrich] never supported Cap and Trade”

He absolutely DID support cap and trade just as he supported the health care mandate. YOU are the one either lying or flat-out ignorant.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/12/12/fact_check_plenty_to_question_in_gop_debate/

You are nuckin futts.

You are a guttersnipe.

They’re coming to get you Eric! The evil Islamo empire is here beards and all, to make you a convert to sharia law! Run Eric Run! Hide under your bed! The Muslims are here,and there’s no place to hide! Oh the humanity! We will now have to watch in horror as our women’s heads are wrapped in sheets, while people pray on magic carpets in our town square! History will ask how this happened. Why didn’t anybody listen to Eric when he said that Ron Paul would somehow be able to surrender our country of 300 million people somehow with the consent of congress, and the senate, along with the courts, to Muslims? History will show that Eric knew this was coming and tried to warn us all! Why didn’t we listen people WHY!

I will be kind…. BALONEY! I am NOT a first line supporter of Ron Paul. However, that is pure BALONEY! ABO!

Strengthening our military is now akin to surrender?

Or serious couch-time for you.

Rewriting history now. How pathetic.

Not by itself!

Add mustard, mayo and some bread and THEN we have a sandwich.

First of all, your facts are dead wrong. If you don’t believe me, go look it up. Its cited all over the web by journalists, academics and political pundits. The specific event that started it all was in Boston, Dec. 16, 2007. Verbatim, read, “Ron Paul is the intellectual godfather of the Tea Party movement.”

Secondly, republican and democrat is a form of representation, and liberal and conservative is a form of policy making. Paul can be a libertarian and a republican – which he is. There are also liberal republicans and conservative democrats.

It never ceases to amaze me that we have citizens in this country that can barely understand recent history or how our government functions.

Class dismissed.

I’m arrogant because you make it easy. You’re a fucking moron.

Go read a book.

Likewise Robert, you’ve exposed yourself pretty well for the fool you are.

Let me ask you this, who appoints the chairman?

If you answered with “the president of the United States,” you win one gold star.

Next, who pushed for passage of The Banking Act of 1935?

If you answered with, “the president of the United States,” you win another gold star.

Finally, when a political party controls both the legislative and the executive branch, who has indirect control over the fed? If you answered, “the president of the United States,” you won a third gold star and a free pizza party!!!

Ergo: If A (the president) = B (congress), and if B (congress) = C (monetary restraint and oversight of the Fed), then A (the president) = C (monetary restraint and oversight of the Fed).

I’ll just close with a quote from Richard Timberlake, retired professor of economics at the University of Georgia in an encyclopedia entry titled, “The Federal Reserve,”

“Can The Fed, as an ‘independent’ central bank maintain price stability contrary to the wishes of an executive branch that seeks to use its fiscal powers to manage the federal government’s burgeoning long-term debt?”

Thanks for playing Robert.

I hope you never have to stand next to the parents of a substance abuser while their child is being lowered in his grave.

It all depends on what version you read… I have never read Palestine in this verse… but Philistia. There was no Palestine until the Roman Emperor Hadrian placed that name on the entire nation of Israel in 135 A.D. so you would be hard-pressed to have any valid reference to Palestine in the Old Testament.

Joel 3
The Nations Judged
1 [a]“In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
2 I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[b]
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
3 They cast lots for my people
and traded boys for prostitutes;
they sold girls for wine to drink.

4 “Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done.

thx….

You are misinformed about the doctrine of the LDS church in regards to polygamy. Here is a response from the leader of the church way back in 1890: http://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng