Glenn Beck: Sarah Palin is playing the middle by campaigning for John McCain

Well, md. I believe we've both made pretty good points, but we're not going to come to any consensus in our arguments because you actually believe that the R&D are different and I remain true to the idea that they are different. This is of course because I believe that there is a "shadow government" if you will that is actually pulling the strings behind the true parties. Like I said, I didn't think you'd jump on the "conspiracy bandwagon" with me. It sounds like you agreed with me on a number of things and I with you, so let's leave it where it's at.

I wanna just push it out there again. AUDIT THE FED. This should seriously be a higher priority than people are making it, especially considering that whether they are or are not actually the ones who purposefully engineered this recession...the main point still lies there. They are the central bank that our government for God knows what reason has chosen and as such, they should be held accountable like any other organization...period.

Amen, brother!

Correction: I believe that the R&D are one and the same though they appear to present different ideologies.

It seems to me that Sarah Palin is kind of overexposing herself right now. I understand that she needs to gain a sense of credibility in order to gain momentum for a possible Presidential bid, however, I'm not sure if what she is doing now will get that for her.

I think to a certain point in politics, less is more. If Sarah made less appearances and was very clear and to the point with what she says, it would benefit her more in the long run. Lately all I have been hearing is the same old talking points and catch phrases.

I am not slamming Palin...I dig her...but I don't know if she really knows what she wants to be yet. She has to figure that out before we can make an honest assessment of who she really is.

She can be as optimistic as she wants, but as long as Ron Paul runs again...I'm going to vote for him...again. My state doesn't want me to, but I'm going to anyway. I don't believe Palin's sudden "I'm all for the people now." She makes great points and as she even said..."It's simple stuff." On other words any moron who actually takes the time to look into what's going on can say the things she's saying. I want some genuine change ideas and "reforming the Republican party" isn't going to cut it. Where's the message of "AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE?" Does anyone else happen to see that in 97 years of operation they've never been audited even though they're the #1 financial institution in our country. They're not even an agency of the U.S. government, but they print our currency and require us to pay back interest on it. The system is designed by criminals and for criminals. Come on, people. Open your eyes and ears. Try listening to what's NOT being said in comparison to what is.

Tyler, while I don't necasarily take your sinicle view about Sarah Palin, specifically, I agree that many politicians now look at the pulse of the country and have started saying (and in most cases acting) like real conservatives. Isn't that a good thing? I think so. That tells me that the Tea Party Movement is working!

Now do I believe these politicians have actually changed their mind? No way. But I don't care about what their motives are, as long as their survival mechanism tells them they better shape up, I think that's the best we can hope for. The key is for us to stay diligent. We need to constantly teach and pursuade people. It is a never-ending process.

I'm glad you will vote for Ron Paul. If I lived in Texas, I probably would too. We need his voice of reason in Congress.

I also think we should audit the Fed. Like George Washington and Alexander Hamilton I believe in a Central Bank, however, it still needs to be a transparent bank. (Which the Fed is NOT!)

I might agree with you except I'm not sure she will run again. She is going to make probably $10 million durring this book tour of her's and that is great for her family, and for the "classical liberal"/"modern conservative" cause. Plus the most important thing for all of us is to win back congress (or at least significantly close the gap) and Sarah Palin can do a lot to make that happen.

Let's face it, she is the face of the modern conservative movement, (our face is prettier than your face Al Gore) and she needs to really take advantage of this opportunity.

In my opinion the reason why Obama (and most politicians) is "overexposed" is because of his message. Reagan once said that he was "The Great Communicator" because he "communicated great things." As long as Palin and others communicate the optimism of American Liberty, there is little chance for overexposure.

I understand what you are saying, but I completely disagree. A third-party movement has never worked in this country and have, in most cases, hurt the causes they stump for. The Tea Party Movement (which I consider myself a part of) is, in fact, working. It is moving Republicans towards liberty and constitutionalism, and exposed the statist Democrats for their fascistic tendencies.

I also give Sarah Palin a pass for stumping for McCain. I live in AZ, I HATE John McCain because "The Maverick" is a big government liberal (a former Democrat from Iowa) who has sold out our constitution too many times. However, He did give Sarah Palin her shot at national politics and I think it would be a little "catty" for Palin to not pay back the Senator.

GO J.D.!!!

I know you're not going to jump into the "conspiracy bandwagon" with me on this, but try to hear me out. The reason for 3rd party movements not working is not because not enough people share independent beliefs. People have been surveyed for years asking where they saw themselves. Over 80% of Americans consider themselves "somewhere in the middle." On other words, very few Americans are actually all liberal or all conservative. The reason that R&D is so highlighted is because the corporations who own both parties spend tons and tons of money to get themselves more recognized and to have independent candidates slanderized. That's what's going on. Think about it. What better way to enslave people than to give them the illusion of choice. The choice between McCain and Obama was a perfect example of this. McCain is the R and Obama is the D. Both of the supported the TARP and bailouts. Both of them have no problem lying to the American people to go through with their agenda. Remember Ross Perot. That man was the most conservative person in that campaign, but just disappeared. It's not in the best interest of the real rulers of our country to actually give us an honest choice who cares for the people. This has been the United Corporations of America for a very long time and there's no denying it. We can't just give in to this "Well, 3rd parties don't gain any ground, so we might as well vote for the lesser of 2 evils." This is exactly what the elitists who own both parties want you to do. All you have to do is think hard enough. I'm still looking for it, but I'm sure there's even a method to the Republicans' dissent to give us the illusion that our government actually cares what we the people think. I hope I'm wrong. I really really want to be wrong very badly because if I'm right...then the U.S. as we know it will end before 2012 and the population of the planet will dwindle from the almost 7 billion we have now to 500 million people. It's a "more managable" or "more sustainable" population. Just look outside the TV for a while. Really look at what's going on in underdeveloped countries and try to logically explain away why over a billion people are starving when we have more than enough food on Earth to feed them. It's deliberate. I thoroughly believe that nothing is happening by accident and this mentality you have is not your fault...it's just been embedded into you for so long that you feel that you have to fight the good fight of honesty in politics with only the resources given to you. Create your own resources...this is my message for you and anyone else who happens to read this. We have to think outside the box to truly keep our country from becoming another piece of the one world government that the elitists truly desire.

Tyler, believe it or not, I'm sympathetic to many of your points and you make a good argument for your point of view. I have spent many hours talking and learning from people who were in the John Birch Society and other like-minded people. My simple point is unfortunately the perfect is the enemy of the good.

I will say, I disagree that R's and D's are all the same. Let's start with each party's platform. Personally, I agree with just about every point of the Republican Platform, and I disagree with just about every point of the Democrat Platform. Does every Republican politician live up to that Platform? Of course not! And we should work hard to pressure them into complying or vote them out. In addition we should work hard to improve the platform to comply more closely to the constitution.

This is what Primarys are for. To move the party in the direction we want it to go. This is why, as an resident of Arizona, I will NOT vote for McCain in any primary, EVER!

I don't think Ross Perot is a good example for you, because he was much more democratic (notice the small "d") than I would prefer. In other words, he wanted nationwide townhall meetings, and hotlines, which are great ideas for running companies, not so great for running a constitutional Republic. But I think Perot actually makes my point. While Bush 41 was not my perfect choice, he was FAR better than the great liar, Bill Clinton (which spawned his wife into her own political career).

Allow me to also respond to your point about third parties. Again, I understand the frustration, but there is no such thing as a perfect candidate. Third parties always turn into either ego trips for certain politicians or one issue parties that will never embrace a wide range of people, therefore are doomed. You are right though, it is NOT about the party and the good news for America is the Tea Party Movement is proving that.

Tyler, here are my two bigger points.

First: The major reason America is in the trouble it is in is because we have NOT been taught true history and the principles that make our great nation unique and great. This must change before any real change can take place. This is why I am so grateful for people like Beck, Limbaugh, etc. who are high profile and actually take the time to teach about the consitution, and the miracle that it is.

Second: I believe the Tea Party Movement is proving my point, in that it has moved our entire country to the right quicker and more effectively than any movement in modern history. Every Republican (and quite a few Democrats) want to jump on this bandwagon because they are speaking the principles of limited government and liberty that resonate with each human being who strives for freedom.

So Tyler, you are right. It is not about Republicans and Democrats. But it's not about big money or big exposure either. It is about big ideas. Ideas that changed the world 200 years ago, and if we let them, can change the world again.

This goes back to what I've said in a few other comments. There are too many people out there who believe that the Republican party is going to just suddenly go back to more conservative roots, but it doesn't really work like that.

Now, you've gotta take Beck's comments about the R&D with a grain of salt, since he is a Libertarian and has said that is what he is. Of course he's never going to fully believe that any given R or D is going to be conservative enough solely on party notes.

I was worried about Sarah Palin attaching herself too much to the Tea Party and I truly believe that the Tea Party will lose some credibility due to her...and the birthers as well (different issue altogether, but point still remains).

Those of you who have been Republicans for a very long time have (in some cases) and will probably continue to tell me and others like myself and Beck that the Tea Party needs to be more about reforming the party. If it were only that easy, I'd jump on the bandwagon with you.

The problem however is that the R&D are two sides of the same coin which is exactly why the MSM (Fox News is included when I speak of MSM just so you know) never covers these guys properly. I've seen all of them immediately dismiss Ron Paul as being a crazy lunatic during the campaign without giving a more proper reason for doing so. It was basically just "make him look crazy and stop covering him" and sadly...it worked. This is exactly the reason why the Libertarians and the Constitutionalists need to truly get themselves out there more somehow. Americans need to become more aware that there are more than 2 parties and these other parties stand true to American principles hence why they're separate from the 2 headed coin.

Well, I suppose that will be it then. Beck does go on to further his point in that though Sarah is starting to get it...she hasn't quite reached full capacity of what's going on and what's been going on. Who knows...maybe as she continues to put more pieces of the puzzle together, we'll see where she goes from there.

I however (like many Americans should do) will refuse to vote in someone I do not believe in. If my candidate of chioce is not on the ballot, I will mark the option anyway. I'd rather waste my vote at least trying to have my voice heard than vote for someone who I know will further betray us.

That's why I'd like to encourage Americans to know your 3rd party candidates and vote for who you truly believe in even if your state won't put them on the ballot.