Glenn Beck Show Discussion – June 1, 2010

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  • texasgirl46

    You are awsome….:)

  • texasgirl46

    I have to say…as an adult, I'm with the hole moon thing…but if I had been 19 or 20 during woodstock….I probably would have gone…Just for the music and partying though….not the hole orgy stuff…

    Great show….

  • KeninMontana

    Great show, Glenn really put out more than a couple of things to think about. Thanks again for posting the show RS.

  • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie Castillo

    He is really getting into philosophy a bit more- He's right, and I'm glad he realized the trap he creating for himself when he did. It seems like his wife really helps keep his life in check and him on the right path.

    It is a personal issue for all of us, I think. That we don't get so consumed with our anger and our distrust that we become the enemy.

    I've been reading the bible recently and have been trying to take notes and formulate truths based on the books- I have seen over and over how anger plays against our personal growth and our ability to forgive and to love.

    Almost seems like his show would benefit from a discussion format on some days.

  • Jojode

    This show had a different feel. I feel sadness for our children because I don't think they will ever have the opportunities and freedom we had or know what could be possible. Where will people from other countries go for refuge when the USA will no longer be there for safety? I'm angry trying to answer how anyone want to destroy this country instead of fixing what could be better? And frustrated because I can't get anyone motivated to look or get involved around me and they are so complacent and go along that I just want to scream. God Bless You Glenn Beck, for everything you do to try to save our wonderful country and our way of life. If all this comes to pass and our grandchildren ask why we did not do anything we will be able to speak your name and a true patriot that fought for their future and freedoms.

  • http://stopislamizationofamerica.blogspot.com/ Art Telles

    Dr. Beck, D.D., and now PhD…

    Society… History… Religion… Economics… Politics… Philosophy…

    Ummm… red meat… or as the bible says, milk is for the young… meat is for the mature… and Beck, the local corner community butcher has only the BEST meat on FOX and all of tv… yes.

    Art

  • rabcf1

    Are you serious! I go to church on sundays. You do know he believes the bible was buried in up state new york by central american jews.

  • http://stopislamizationofamerica.blogspot.com/ Art Telles

    Informed… AND Serious… 1

    Yes, I know what Beck believes and accepts as a practicing Mormon, a Latter-day Saint. I am also aware of the golden plates… and the historical fact that the original plates are not available for study.

    For the non-scholar, non-Mormon and even Mormon… a book suggestion.

    I read a good book last month called “Leaving The Saints, How I Lost the Mormons and Found My Faith” by Martha Beck (… no relation to Glenn Beck). Beck is her married name.

    (… PS. Martha also has a Down Syndrome child, which means she “knows” love, and her book has a friendly “tone” that is truthful in intent and accomplishment.)

    She lives in Phoenix, Arizona. Two web sites listed on the hard-back book cover are MarthaBeck.com “… and join the discussion at Leaving The Saints.”

    My preface to the accurate info that follows about Mormon history is offered as a friend of Glenn's, whom I like and trust as a fellow American, the Latter-day Saint.

    I am not aligned with any Christian denomination… simply a “Christian” who attemps to “… proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous Light,” as Peter stated to the nascent church the status of all new followers of Jesus in 1 Peter 2:9.

    In my humble opinion, Beck presents himself as one person who has also been “… called out of darkness…” as a person, a fellow human, a man, a husband, a father, a member of a denomination… even if that denomination considers itself to have “the truth” about God's restored church… similar to other denomination who consider themselves to have “the truth” about immaculate conception of Jesus and Mary, transubstantiation, consubstantiation, baptism, second blessing, music in church services, day of worship, signs of the times, the 2nd advent of Jesus, life after death, eternal torment in hell (… live 70 years as an unbeliever and suffer forever…) and etc., etc., etc.

    End of preface… now on to the history lesson from Martha Beck's excellent book.

  • http://stopislamizationofamerica.blogspot.com/ Art Telles

    Informed… AND Serious… 2

    Mormon canon… Bible, Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants.

    Page 4…
    “… Smith taught that the American Indians are the descendants of a small group of emigrants from Jerusalem, who arrived on the continent in approximately 600 BC, and wrote their history onto a book of golden plates. Smith said he was led to these plates, which were buried in New York State, by an angel named Moroni (rhymes with 'the PHONE eye') in 1823. Using a magical pair of spectacles buried along with the plates, Smith said, he translated the plates, and later published them as the Book of Mormon (Mormon was one of the original owners and authors of the golden plates). The problem, from a Latter-day Saint perspective, is that when scholars set out to test Smith's version of reality, they tend to bump into a lot of contradictory evidence (such as the fact that DNA analysis traces Native American ancestry to Asia rather than to the Middle East).

    Page 151…
    Book of Mormon…
    The Book of Mormom, “… which Latter-day Saints believe was originally written on golden plates, in a language called 'reformed Egyptian,' by pre-Columbian Americans. Smith claimed that in 1823, he was led to the plates by an angel named Moroni … . According to Smith, the plates had been placed in a stone box and buried in New York State by the last surviving member of a light-skinned Cristian people called the Nephites, … . Smith said he used his natural gifts as a 'seer' (along with a special pair of spectacles, called the Urim and Thummum, that had been buried with the golden plates) to translate the Nehite records and create Mormonism's scriptural cornerstone, which he published in 1830. Sadly, he was required to return the golden plates to the angel, so his translation can never be verified against the original.”

    Page 152…
    The Pearl of Great Price…
    “Last but not least is a book called the Pearl of Great Price. … it has pictures. Egyptian pictures, copied directly from real, ancient papyri. Pictures that would be recognized by Dr. Atiya as he strolled through the Metropolitan Museum more than a hundred years after the Pearl of Great Price was published.”

    [...]

    “… To understand how the Egyptian images got into Mormon scripture in the first place, we must go to yet another place and time: the small city of Kirtland, Ohio, in the year 1835.”

  • http://stopislamizationofamerica.blogspot.com/ Art Telles

    Informed… AND Serious… 3

    Page 153…
    ” I know what your probably thinking right now, as you read this account. You're thinking, I'll bet this situation [... murmurings against Smith and his marrying multiple wives, mentioned in the book but not here] was enlivened by the arrival of a traveling Irishman and his cartload of ancient Egyptian mummies!' “

    “Of course, you are correct.”

    Page 154…
    “Michael H. Chandler, the Irishman in question, made his living by dragging around four honest-to-goodness mummies … .”

    “The Mormons also took special note of several papyrus documents that had been buried with the mummies and were part of Chandler's display. The papyri were written in Egyptian hieroglyphics, which meant that no one on earth could read them; the ancient culture had died centuries before, leaving not a soul alive who could speak its language or read its hieroglyphic symbols – except, thought some of the Mormon mummy viewers, for one man. Joseph Smith Jr. had proclaimed himself a 'seer,' and seers were defined in the Book of Mormnon as people who could translate 'all ancient writings.' “

    “… . The prophet immediately confirmed that he could understand and translate the documents, though he said it would take some time to do it right. The Saints were so excited by this that they scrounged up over two thousand dollars – a serious sum, in those days – and bought Chandler's entire exhibit.”

    ” 'I commenced the translation of some of the characters and hieroglyphics,' the prophet wrote, 'and much to our joy found that one of the rolls contained the writings of Abraham, another the writings of Joseph of Egypt, etc.' In other words, the Mormon Church now owned the original, physical manuscripts upon which the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament, the Torah) had been written. … and he [Smith] published his translation of the Book of Abraham in 1842. … Joseph Smith's translations of the papyri, along with more of the prophet's divine revelations, became the Pearl of Great Price, the final volume of Mormonism's standard works.”

  • http://stopislamizationofamerica.blogspot.com/ Art Telles

    Informed… AND Serious… 4

    Page 155…
    “On June 27, 1844, Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum were assassinated by an angry anti-Mormon mob in Carthage, Illinois. Several years after Joseph Smith's assassination, the Mormon papyri disappeared.”

    Page 156…
    “Church-approved Mormon history books had it that the documents, which Smith's widow Emma had sold in 1856 to a Chicago museum, had been lost in the Chicago Fire of 1871. No one could prove otherwise, that is, until Dr. Atiya took a second look at the documents that had caught his eye in the Metropolitan Museum's storage area. These papyri had been glued to pieces of backing pager … Atiya recognized these patched-up drawings as the illustrations in the Pearl of Great Price. Furthermore, the reverse side of the pages contained writings and pictures (for example, an architectural sketch of the Mormon temple in Kirtland, Ohio) that indicated these were the very same papyri owned by Joseph Smith.”

    ” … In 1822, a scholar named Jean Francois Champollion and others had translated the famous Rosetta stone, a slab of basalt, discovered in 1799, that had the same text written in three different languages: Egyptian hieroglyphics, Demotic, and Greek. … 'cracking the code' of ancient Egyptian and learning to read its hieroglyphics. This meant that modern Egyptologists, … could translate the Joseph Smith papyri, verify his interpretation, and confirm that the Mormon founder really was a 'seer.' “

    “Well, things didn't work out quite that neatly. Non-Mormon scholars immediately recognized the Joseph Smith papyri as copies of two Egyptian funerary documents, the Book of the Dead and the Book of Breathings. They were basically directions to help deceased Egyptians negotiate the tricky netherworld tests they expected to encounter on their way to eternal life.”

    Page 160…
    “… today, only a tiny fraction of Latter-day Saints even know how the Pearl of Great Price came to be or how its validity was challenged by modern Egyptology, and the majority have never heard of the Joseph Smith papyri. In any case, the faith of most Latter-day Saints isn't based on the belief that their founding prophet could translate Egyptian but on deeply held values and passionate allegiance to things like honesty, kindness, the nuclear family, and top-quality home-baked desserts. Nonetheless, preserving the innocent faith of the majority requires silencing the few nitpickers who worry about testing Joseph Smith's claims, … .”

    Art
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