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That is becasue our younger generations are ignorant! The movie stars are living in lala land where nothing seems so effect them so they figure why not support it as if it is a trend.
God created us and gives us our lives and allows us to do with them as we please. We as Christians and as Americans have the right to pray wherever we feel fit. Peopel have forgotten the work of GOD! That God creates miracles! Our country is going to hell becasue obviously our President doesn't have faith so I pray for our President that he find GOD!
M Copper. You guys? Then why is Dopey obama sending an Imam, with taxpayer $ to the Middle East?
Yes, but even the public was banned from the Capitol building in November of 2009, so now it belongs to Obama and his thugs, Pelosi, Reid, etc.
No sir you are wrong! Anyone of any religion can and does rent these type of buildings. Even atheists, businesses, etc., can rent these buildings. The seperation of church and state only comes in if you take taxpayer funding to acquire these types of buildings. Please get your facts straight before flying off the handle. Confrontations are only worth the effort if you are basing them on factual information.
This is just insanity. It feels like some crazy movie. Who are the people saying that he cannot pray there and who said the Natonal Anthem couldn't be sung, are these actually people in power?
Thomas Jefferson wrote of Separation of Church and State to a group of Baptists (in a private letter) who resided in Quaker filled PA who were concerned that, just like in England the government would tell them how, when and where to worship. He was assuring them that the Govt. would not interfere.
The phrase is not in the Constitution, only in a letter written by Jefferson - on more than one occasion our founding Father's (Washington, Adams, Madison etc...) made it perfectly clear that without the Word of God, our type of government could not succeed and would become corrupt and fail.
Thomas Jefferson wrote of Separation of Church and State to a group of Baptists (in a private letter) who resided in Quaker filled PA who were concerned that, just like in England the government would tell them how, when and where to worship. He was assuring them that the Govt. would not interfere.
The phrase is not in the Constitution, only in a letter written by Jefferson - on more than one occasion our founding Father's (Washington, Adams, Madison etc...) made it perfectly clear that without the Word of God, our type of government could not succeed and would become corrupt and fail.
Our Constitution protect our rights. The contract does not have the "NO PRAYER" in its contract. Friday night they got a hold of Common Sense, and said yes, they can pray! Wow... We can not compromise on our faith ! Stand up America.. support what is in your heart and soul... Do not let us fall because we back down and allow others to tell us we can not do what the Constitution gives us the right to do.
If you knew anything of Islam you would know the Hadiths are the texts used to clear up and define any ambiguity one might encounter in reading the Qu'ran.
My apologies TAP...
I completely forgot to give you a heads-up on THIS ONE~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mlxMndnlzw&feature=player_embedded#!
The UK
Again, my apologies. You definitely deserve all the facts you can handle... before you continue with your shoveling.
Sackett
Afternoon 'TAP',
I can assure you, if Janie 'just' wanted 'to argue'... someone would have called a medic for you by now.
...especially with the .49 cent a pack chicken-lips-n-feet hotdog tripe you've just been peddling as Prime Aged Angus Fillet Mignon.
~although I DO know where you got your 'beef'~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQgJqBoHswM&feature=related
...You are anything BUT a true American "patriot". You're not even an independent thinker.
Anyway, here we go...
FOR EXAMPLE:
"We should respect other beliefs and the people who hold them, especially the ones who do not "solicit" for new recruits. At least Islam does not go "DOOR-TO-DOOR" trying to get people mixed up in their organization. Rather, ISLAM leaves that up to the person and God."
Oh where to begin?
How about...
http://www.studytoanswer.net/myths_ch7.html (a bit of light reading ~with scores of sources AND references~ on the MYTH of "peaceful" islam... and the TRUE reasons/purpose of them 'getting along' in new lands for years)
http://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/3000-terrorists-to-capture-india-pakistan-taliban/ (We'll start easy, with the CURRENT acts of "peaceful" "non-solicitation" for "new recruits"... IN INDIA. Oh, be sure to read what the Taliban commander has to say about what India is, to them ~“India is our jageer (domain),”~ very "hands-off" approach... if you're one of the resistant INDIANS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IstZSgniH8&feature=player_embedded (This will take you back a bit... and cover 80,000,000 ~yep, that's MILLIONS~ INDIANS that were slaughtered by these 'fine' folk, who "leave it up to the person and God")
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/islamic-state-of-great-britain-the-inevitable-outcome-of-muslim-appeasement-3/ (Granted, it's an op-ed. HOWEVER, every single statement of action/incident/policy/terror is FACTUAL and easily verified. BTW, this one deals with how these people who "do(es) not go "DOOR-TO-DOOR" trying to get people ~MIXED UP~ in their organization."... are "leav(ing) that up to the person and God".)
What Happens To Folk Who Don't "BELIEVE IN ISLAM'S 'allah"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazLgpB5bBA&feature=related
INDONESIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xOf_Fki94&feature=related
PAKISTAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahz3BEhkyho&feature=related
NIGERIA 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hc1zKnLr0&feature=related
NIGERIA 2
PAKISTAN... again (could fill many pages with such sick facts... just from Pakistan, Nigeria and India).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgu8bZpCRqk
IRAQ
...do I really need to present more from this 'religion' and its 'peaceful' "hold(ers)"... "especially the ones who do not 'solicit' for new recruits'? I mean, as you so authoritatively (and asininely, inanely) asserted, "At least Islam does not go "DOOR-TO-DOOR" trying to get people mixed up in their organization. Rather, ISLAM leaves that up to the person and God."
TAP, what it is time to "STOP"... is the bullsh#t.
CM Sackett
Awe shucks, thanks, but I don't think I type so well.
http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-saturday-cinema-islam-what-the-west-needs-to-know-98-minutes
I didn't want to be redundant, and I figured we had all watched it. Perhaps I shouldn't assume that...
...yet Muslims can do this?
http://studygrowknowblog.com/2010/08/16/muslims-block-traffic-to-pray-in-new-york-city/
Yeah basically.
English has subjective terms. "Worst" is one of them. Worst compared to what? On what basis, etc..
Some things that aren't subjective though... He has spent the most money out of any other single president ever. He has lied several times. His dad went to pursue a socialist movement. Just off the top of my head.
"The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." -The Hadiths Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17, covering the punishment for apostasy. Does that work for you?
Are you saying LDS members are the only ones who "solicit" door to door? I receive far more visits from Jehovah Witnesses than the Mormans. And I wouldn't call it "soliciting", just sharing the Word of God. You contradicted yourself in an earlier post when you say "we must respect those who are different than us..." but it doesn't sound like you respect the Morman religion and their beliefs. They don't force their beliefs on anyone and they don't preach hatred, all you have to say is "no thank you" Catholics have their rituals, yet you don't comment on that. What's behind your bitterness and hatred about Mormanism? Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all? Practice what you preach - stop spewing hatred. (btw, shouldn't you have said "Islam leaves that up to the person and allah" instead of God?)
How has he been the worst in even America? Because you don't agree with his policies. I don't understand why everything has to be quantified so, but we've seen (marginal) growth during his presidency, haven't entered into any new global conflicts (yet), and in general haven't seen a decrease in QoL...doesn't seem like the worst....He ain't the best, but...worst?
Well, I guess I'll just have to take whatever you say at face value, hard to argue with the specifics of the Qur'an that you so eloquently quoted.
"yeah, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini--they were nothing compared to Obama!"
I do agree with this. Obama's the worst of America, there's been far worse in the world.
I don't know if you are aware of this but, in Christianity there was an establishment of a new covenant. Jesus came and died for the sins of all, then and in the future.
The fact is, that the bible doesn't tell people to lie and kill anymore. The new covenant fixed that whole collective salvation part. Now it's about individual salvation. At one point in Christianity we were tasked with keeping others on track, but that hasn't been the case since before Christ. Remember Jesus said, when tested by the Pharisees, the 2 most important parts of God's commandment are: Love the lord God with all your heart, and treat others the way you want to be treated and all other commandments will stem from those two.
Whereas the Qur'an specifically says, which ever parts were written last are the ones that take precedent. Meaning the ones written last about murder, rape, and lying to further the islamic cause are the ones Muslims should follow to truly follow the teachings of Muhammad.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to do any of the things that Islam is asking, nor do I want them done to me.
I don't think anyone here would have a problem with Islam if it didn't preach, lying, killing, and raping. After all, you don't see true Christians running around in droves killing Jews, Buddhists, Satanists, (insert other infidels here), etc... I denounce those who do, if any, and can guarantee they are not true Christians. As Christians our job is to tell the story of Christ and use the spiritual gifts we were given for the Lords good work.
We will pray ON THE MALL...we will pray at the KENNEDY CENTER...we will pray in our HOTELS...we will pray on the steps of the SUPREME COURT...WE WILL PRAY WHENEVER AND WHEREVER WE WANT TO!
Just try and stop people from praying. Maybe Rep Bean has some thugs to spare the Kennedy Center.
yeah, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini--they were nothing compared to Obama! Man, some of the posts in here completely ignore precedent. Like the plethora of posts implying Obama had a say in events held at the Kennedy Center, as if he is the point of contact for all event planning. Unreal.
To the points about Islam being a religion of hate, the Christian Bible doesn't hold up too as the literature of tolerance. Look, it's really easy to cherry pick quotes so it fits the narrative I'm trying to sell:
"If you refuse to obey all the terms of this law that are written in this book, and if you do not fear the glorious and awesome name of the LORD your God, then the LORD will overwhelm both you and your children with indescribable plagues. These plagues will be intense and without relief, making you miserable and unbearably sick. He will bring against you all the diseases of Egypt that you feared so much, and they will claim you..." [Deuteronomy 28:58-?]
...
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
so tolerant.
You really need some new talking points, I'd like to know when Beck as ever advocated or told people they need to join the LDS specifically or expounded on it's "superiority" to other faiths. Sources and links please.
Obama is the worst person to serve in any government in any country .the people who vote in this country ,had better wake up soon or there will be no country .Nov will be the most important month in this nations history .We can stop him and his Czara remember Czar is a russin title Ivan the terrile was a Czar.
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ok, jaynie has it right, islam is the only religion out there that teaches hate. not sure where you got you info from, but, it sure wasnt the bible, or from TRUE christian beliefs. i dont personally believe you have to go to church to believe in god either, but, that doesnt mean i would tell others to do as i do. i am truely lost on how organized churches preach propaganda(outside that each religion believes they are the only true religion) that defines who to hate and who to love. now, i will state, the koran is a very evil book(sounds satanistic to me, but that is personal), and i have yet to find in the text of the bible the type of hate speech that is in the koran. i dont hate muslims, hate the koran. muslims, by virtue of where they live, is not evil, but to be brainwashed into thinking that killing those who dont believe as you do, is evil. and, since mosques preach the koran, all i can say is, does david koresh ring a bell(being that i live rather close to this place). he taught people to hate by twisting of words, nothing of such rhetoric is in the bible. so, needless to say, i dont hate muslims, but i do hate islam..............
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are saying- so tell me if you disagree with this from the Koran:
9:5
"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
9:29
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
If I am mistaken on your stance- let me know- but the above translations do not jive with the claims you are making-
You should probably watch this video. I know it's 98 minutes. But it's chalk filled with counter points and sources for anyone who wanted to debate you on Islam could post. Namely:
Old verse of Quran
So, we should respect lying, murder, and rape? Would you respect a pedophile who murdered their victim and then said, "It wasn't me.", when the parents saved the dress and the semen sample verified it's his?
I wouldn't. But then again, I'm an intolerant, racist, tea-bagger who hates babues and you expected as much from me.
Obviously "Janie59" just wants to argue. The main point is that there are many people in the world with many different belief systems. We should respect other beliefs and the people who hold them, especially the ones who do not "solicit" for new recruits. At least Islam does not go "DOOR-TO-DOOR" trying to get people mixed up in their organization. Rather, ISLAM leaves that up to the person and God. Again, it's time to STOP THE HATRED!
makes me wonder what is behind the canvas covering the White House....
coincidence???????????????
Explain the Shroud....a cloth that is lined exactly to a man's body image of whips used by the roman soldiers during a cruxifiction, has exact blood stains where wounds had been, photographed from negatives with dimential images BEFORE 3-D and above was invented, and HAS NEVER been duplicated.
You can remain ignorant if you choose, but then that would require ignoring facts.
You better head to Michigan quickly. Just saw in the news that football teams in Michigan WILL BE practicing football from 11PM to 4AM so as not to disturb the muslims religious holiday. So much for putting kids education first....
M Cooper, assuming you are innocent in your statement above about separation of church and state, you might not know that the original meaning of that statement is not constitutional, BUT was written in a personal journal/writings.
What it means is that the GOV can NOT force any particular religion on the people.
In this situation it is the BIG GOV FORCING the people NOT to pray. This is UNconstitutional.
That is not true.....Mormonism is a religion that people do not hold.....rather, IT HOLDS THEM. If you wish to practice the strange rituals and be subjected to Mormonism's rules and regulations, then go ahead. But be careful with your words when you question someone's ethnicity. I am an American and was born and raised here. However, I have traveled all over the world and am sensible enough to know that we must respect those who are different than us and not try to force our beliefs down their throats. Mormons may peddle their religion door-to-door to get converts, but at least the Muslims allow people to DECIDE IT IN THEIR OWN HEARTS BETWEEN THE PERSON AND GOD. You are short-sighted my friend, I hope you get "enlightened" at some point in your journey here on this earth.
Actually, yes, as long as you aren't cramming it down her throat and allow her to form her own opinion. I ask my daughter all the time, "What do YOU think?" Most times she gives me an answer she thinks I want to hear but that is a key part to being an individual. Forming your own opinion.
Jaynie, I used to be an atheist. If anything that part of my life has strengthened my relationship with God. It is my belief that God gives each of us different spiritual gifts. It's hard enough to figure out what they are let alone having to deal with society, parents, friends, etc.. pushing you to believe and think a certain way.
I hope she does choose Christianity but nothing is gained by me forcing my views on her, or others for that matter. There is no such thing as collective salvation, only individual salvation. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Whatever your religious affiliation Jaynie, like CM, I agree with most of your points keep at it, and thank you for the work you have done so far and I hope you haven't taken offense to anything I've said.
That's probably because the "type" of religion Glenn Beck peddles has a groundwork of hatred as its base. People are getting sick and tired of the hate propaganda of the fundamentalist church organizations. People are waking up and they are fed up with being told to HATE YOUR ENEMY....and, lately they are telling their sheep the enemy just happens to be ALL MUSLIMS. This is not right to teach others to hate, anyone who subscribes to these fundamentalist religions does not represent the true Jesus. I am an American by birth and nationality and I want it to be know that I DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS NOR WILL I BE A "ROBOT" FOR ANY CHURCH ORGANIZATION THAT SPREADS HATRED.
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