Comments on: Glenn Beck vehemently defends mirandizing suspected Times Square bomber on Fox and Friends http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/ Wed, 23 May 2012 03:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kent Sjolundhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9904 Kent Sjolund Thu, 06 May 2010 00:44:10 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9904 Under the "Public Safety act" they CAN delay Mirandizing the suspect but I'm NOT sure if that would matter. Until we can define "torture" then it's all moot anyway. Under the “Public Safety act” they CAN delay Mirandizing the suspect but I'm NOT sure if that would matter. Until we can define “torture” then it's all moot anyway.

]]> By: Kent Sjolundhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9903 Kent Sjolund Thu, 06 May 2010 00:42:02 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9903 IMO he is CORRECT-He IS a citizen and BTW, as near as MY research tells me, the Bill of Rights does NOT discriminate between citizens and non-citizens. Regardless, that is a strawman-This guy IS a citizen. Now they could have DELAYED reading him his rights under the Public Safety Act" but they would have to defend that delay. IMO he is CORRECT-He IS a citizen and BTW, as near as MY research tells me, the Bill of Rights does NOT discriminate between citizens and non-citizens. Regardless, that is a strawman-This guy IS a citizen. Now they could have DELAYED reading him his rights under the Public Safety Act” but they would have to defend that delay.

]]> By: therightscoophttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9768 therightscoop Wed, 05 May 2010 05:47:16 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9768 I didn't miss that point Joseph, I just didn't state it. From the standpoint of getting information and using it against him, he must be mirandized. I understand the point of trying to get info to prevent another attack and that's quite valid, as long as his rights aren't pushed aside. If it's legal and he admits it, I've got no problem. I didn't miss that point Joseph, I just didn't state it. From the standpoint of getting information and using it against him, he must be mirandized. I understand the point of trying to get info to prevent another attack and that's quite valid, as long as his rights aren't pushed aside. If it's legal and he admits it, I've got no problem.

]]> By: Tylerhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9770 Tyler Wed, 05 May 2010 05:43:21 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9770 That is a pretty good question. The 5th Amendment just states that you don't have to incriminate yourself, but it doesn't guarantee protection if someone DOES incriminate themselves. That is a pretty good question. The 5th Amendment just states that you don't have to incriminate yourself, but it doesn't guarantee protection if someone DOES incriminate themselves.

]]> By: williammhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9769 williamm Wed, 05 May 2010 05:15:25 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9769 They can question him under the public safety exception, but I don't know if anything he says can be used against him until he's mirandized. They can question him under the public safety exception, but I don't know if anything he says can be used against him until he's mirandized.

]]> By: josephajhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9761 josephaj Wed, 05 May 2010 04:54:24 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9761 you write "Also the Judge makes a great point that anything learned from interrogation, prior to mirandizing Shahzad, would not be admissible in court as it would be considered a violation of Shahzad’s rights."<br><br>but the purpose of not mirandizing him wouldn't be to get information admissible in court!!! the purpose is to get intelligence war intelligence that is, who are his associates specifically foreign non citizen associates...<br>am i missing something here?<br><br>Beck and the judge might still be right that we cannot violate his citizen rights, but to the specific point above i think you missed it... <br><br>its possible that we can interrogate him without miranda rights for that purpose and then give him his rights for which everything in a court trial would be subject to what happened after that?<br>im asking... you write “Also the Judge makes a great point that anything learned from interrogation, prior to mirandizing Shahzad, would not be admissible in court as it would be considered a violation of Shahzad’s rights.”

but the purpose of not mirandizing him wouldn't be to get information admissible in court!!! the purpose is to get intelligence war intelligence that is, who are his associates specifically foreign non citizen associates…
am i missing something here?

Beck and the judge might still be right that we cannot violate his citizen rights, but to the specific point above i think you missed it…

its possible that we can interrogate him without miranda rights for that purpose and then give him his rights for which everything in a court trial would be subject to what happened after that?
im asking…

]]> By: KeninMontanahttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9764 KeninMontana Wed, 05 May 2010 04:03:53 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9764 I really dislike the term "Homeland" , it just gives me the willys. Probably because it's a little too similar to "Motherland"(USSR) or "Fatherland" (Nazi Germany). Just saying....... I really dislike the term “Homeland” , it just gives me the willys. Probably because it's a little too similar to “Motherland”(USSR) or “Fatherland” (Nazi Germany). Just saying…….

]]> By: thomwalkerhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9762 thomwalker Wed, 05 May 2010 01:52:49 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9762 It is the "Rule of Law" that needs to be followed. He is an American citizen. Although I'd like to see him water boarded (at least) and maybe more, we need to follow the Constitution. It is the “Rule of Law” that needs to be followed. He is an American citizen. Although I'd like to see him water boarded (at least) and maybe more, we need to follow the Constitution.

]]> By: MooseOfReasonhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9763 MooseOfReason Wed, 05 May 2010 01:47:43 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9763 If he were treated any differently, that would give the government the precedence to treat any American citizen, whether a suspected terrorist or not, like some kind of "enemy combatant", and that's dangerous. If he were treated any differently, that would give the government the precedence to treat any American citizen, whether a suspected terrorist or not, like some kind of “enemy combatant”, and that's dangerous.

]]> By: williammhttp://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-vehemently-defends-mirandizing-suspected-times-square-bomber-on-fox-and-friends/#comment-9662 williamm Tue, 04 May 2010 21:04:25 +0000 http://www.therightscoop.com/?p=7902#comment-9662 I'm happy to see beck standing by the constitution he is always talking about. It would be great if Obama did. I'm happy to see beck standing by the constitution he is always talking about. It would be great if Obama did.

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