The Right Scoop
...if by attempting to look and see how are foreign policy may have been a catalyst for 9/11 is "un American" or "typically Liberal"....then what do you call simply ignoring what factors are at play within the context of foreign affairs? "Patriotic"? If it's gotten to the point where ignoring our impact on the world, and simply sticking our heads in the sand, where there is no chance of error, then I am proud to be called "un-Patriotic"...I guess Bush removing troops from Saudi Arabia after 9-11 would be considered un-patriotic as well.
I LOVE how the right attempts to completely ignore the reality of the GOP's stance on homosexuality...as if they support homosexuals and the gay agenda. This is as hypocritical and ridiculous as anything I've read...ever...proof positive that the spin-meisters on the right have absolutely not basis in reality, and will say ANYTHING in spite of every fact to the contrary. I mean, REALLY. C'mon. Amazing how reality has no basis for communication these days...while the facts are simply sitting there... in front of everybody to see. "Hey, it's raining" (I'm sitting there, soaking wet) "No, it's not. We're actually in a desert. Boy, are you retarded to not see we're in a desert." "Hhhhmmm, you know...you're right! We're in a desert! Can you hand me that towel?"
We are in deep doo-doo if it can't be understood by everyone that the GOP hasn't an interest in supporting the gay agenda. Am I missing something? Did I imagine the attempts of the GOP to stop DADT? Did I imagine that evangelicals, the back bone of the Republican party, claim that all homosexuals are going to hell? Actually, it seems those, (within either party) that are screaming about "family values" the loudest are more likely to enjoy getting blown by some queer. Thou doth protesteth too much...so maybe there is a connection between the GOP and gays that I should open my eyes to....that actually makes much more sense that what I'm hearing here.
"Look, as long as someone from GOProud is ok with me disagreeing with their lifestyle choices and perhaps even their gay agenda"
Gay agenda? he said so himself he was born like this way, but lifestyle choices?
Are u kidding me
yea to many ignorant people here im going back to tyt to find some more of that good old truth
COME ON, how can you be a gay republican when the party has overwhelmingly being anti-gay rights? Gay marriage, gay ppl in the military, discrimination laws.... The republican party consistently voted against gay ppl.
GET REAL.
COME ON, how can you be a gay republican when the party has overwhelmingly being anti-gay rights? Gay marriage, gay ppl in the military, discrimination laws.... The republican party consistently voted against gay ppl.
GET REAL.
COME ON, how can you be a gay republican when the party has overwhelmingly being anti-gay rights? Gay marriage, gay ppl in the military, discrimination laws.... The republican party consistently voted against gay ppl.
GET REAL.
This goes to show that stupid people never know their stupid. The right is completely anti-gay. McCain lied about accepting the judgement of the military study and then being against the repeal of don't ask-don't tell. Hipocracy by the conservatives know no bounds.
This goes to show that stupid people never know their stupid. The right is completely anti-gay. McCain lied about accepting the judgement of the military study and then being against the repeal of don't ask-don't tell. Hipocracy by the conservatives know no bounds.
I loled
Gay marraige is illegal
We have gays who are denied to openly be gay and fight for our country until recently (in which overwhelming majority of Repubs were again)
Gays are segregated against in regards to jobs as well
It's like a black man after becoming a free man voting for someone who wants to lynch him because he agrees with their economic policies and such. Of course not that intense, but you get what i'm saying
As a TYT listener i think Cenk could have done better on this interview. If he got him on his own show he'd probably have a better time interviewing him. To be honest this was more mediocre material from Cenk, but that's because of the restraints mainstream media has =/
Wow! I was so impressed with the gay guy. I agree with everything he said as a conservative. I especially appreciated the contrast between his dignity and respectful demeanor and the arrogant, snarky ass monkey who interviewed him
Except, no, not all innercity books are updated to the level that suburb cities are. A lot of school programs are to make sure that lower funded schools have ENOUGH books that are also -current-. It's pretty damnable that you would think kids are just loafing off the government and they should obviously provide for themselves. Luckily the rest of the US isnt so blind to childhood struggle or all innercity schools would look like the redlight district from India. In your comment, it's pretty apparent why the government needs to exist to provide for people, for -children-.
WHAT?
That gay conservative guy is delusional.
That fat liberal guy was rude... but at least he was trying to point out how stupid the other guy was, that goes a long way with me.
Still, there is something to be said about being graceful under fire... but I've found that kind of calm, ignorantly dismissive attitude these folks have to be excruciatingly annoying. It's the kind of stupid that doesn't really have any place in our society... yet we tolerate it because that IS what Jesus would do.
Conservative values are flawed. So are Liberal ones - but for different reasons and as simplistic as "two wrongs not making a right" really is, the way we allow party politics to obfuscate the real issue of our individual failures should be criminal.
We need to objectively identify our many failures and collectively work to fix them even if that means there will be no financial gain. Sadly our polluted souls will not allow us to forsake the mighty dollar that rules our existence... there is no money in it.
Yet I have faith in the goodness of our collective. We are capable of so much awesome - and have accomplished so much, we can't let ourselves destroy the civilization that enables our genius to continue. If we destabilize all of our progress will be halted and it could be years before we ever regain momentum.
Or we could blow ourselves up.
Exciting times.
So you don't like him and don't agree with him, but you're more tolerant than people who do accept him? Just want to be clear here.
Leave it to conservatives to use projection. Barron is a moron who thinks Republicans are out to defends gays' interests. Hence why he has to name switch to "conservative". Cenk's point was that if they don't even agree to your basic human rights, then the rest DOESN'T MATTER.
Cenk was never better.
Cenk put the obvious truth RIGHT IN THIS GUYS
FACE without being nasty. The guy survived nicely
and you've got to give Barron credit for being a
proud conservative in the face of his parties
backward (or as Ben Stein would say backwoods)
history. It is a tribute to the republican PR
machine for cooking up GOProud. The 2010
elections were their 2nd PR propaganda coup of the
young century. Rush, Beck, Coulter, Palin, Norquist...
truly amazing.
It's hilarious that you claim that you are more tolerant than liberals, but right there in the story is the fact that 2 conservative groups are not participating in the GOP convention because GOProud is being invited. How does that demonstrate tolerance?
It's hilarious that you claim that you are more tolerant than liberals, but right there in the story is the fact that 2 conservative groups are not participating in the GOP convention because GOProud is being invited. How does that demonstrate tolerance?
I also love how in the same article that we have this...
"conservatives are much more tolerant than are liberals"
we also have these...
"I disagree with his lifestyle choices"
"their gay agenda"
"I’m not going to pass out pamphlets for them"
"humiliate them like Ryan Sorba"
And I'm supposed to believe conservatives are a paragon of tolerance compared to liberals. Puh-lease
I also love how in the same article that we have this...
"conservatives are much more tolerant than are liberals"
we also have these...
"I disagree with his lifestyle choices"
"their gay agenda"
"I’m not going to pass out pamphlets for them"
"humiliate them like Ryan Sorba"
And I'm supposed to believe conservatives are a paragon of tolerance compared to liberals. Puh-lease
DADT wouldn't have passed without republican votes? HAHAHA!! The ONLY reason why it needed ANY republican votes is because the republican FILIBUSTERED it. Without that political parlor trick, the Dems didn't need the republicans for squat!!
DADT wouldn't have passed without republican votes? HAHAHA!! The ONLY reason why it needed ANY republican votes is because the republican FILIBUSTERED it. Without that political parlor trick, the Dems didn't need the republicans for squat!!
I knew it. First day of a new Congress and they're trying to smash health care reform. Plan #1 - Eliminate affordable health care for millions of Americans. Plan # 2 - Increase Michael Steele's spending limit at Spearmint Rhino. Nice.
republicans have systemically blocked anything that supports gay rights........to assume otherwise shows evidence what tools you are!
Yeah Republicans will throw gay conservatives a bone here and there to secure votes all the while voting against giving them the same rights as any other American. One point for Cenk!
I'm a Conservative Republican, I served in the military, and I supported the DADT repeal and support gay marriage. Some Conservative Republicans aren't blinded by misinformation concerning our friends in the gay community be it social or religious.
I used to like Cenk, feeling that he put reason before emotion. But after this interview I don't feel like I can support his world views when he obviously has a burning hatred for anything Republican. He hates us more then he claims the GOP hates gays. It's hurtful to our country to continue to divide ourselves like this, and if Cenk doesn't stop his politically oppressive ways he's going to continuously find himself on the wrong side of history.
I find this whole discussion absurd. Barron’s position is akin to a slave being partial to a slave owner's point of view on some things, but still having one major contrasting difference. The majority of Republican's don't seem to look at gay's with any level of respect. A straight man telling a gay man that the gay man has made a choice to be gay is comical, as if the straight man knows better, while science hasn't been able to prove the point.
And less government? Conservatives want to be able to choose when they want less government. You don't want the government to interfere with our lives/advancing society, except when it comes to abortion, stem cell research, gay rights...
Absurd. Yell at me all you want.
Lol, Cenk owned his ass. The Republicans filibustered DADT and this guy thinks they are on his side. "Hey 8 GOP members voted to repeal it. THEY ALL MUST BE IN FAVOR OF REPEAL IT THEN!"
I think I know who the retarded one is.
I don't think anyone was "owned." Cenk did have a good point he was trying to make. But to accuse anyone of being retarded is counterproductive when having a discussion.
Point:
I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal - don't be an Ann Coulter.
I don't think anyone was "owned." Cenk did have a good point he was trying to make. But to accuse anyone of being retarded is counterproductive when having a discussion.
Point:
I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal - don't be an Ann Coulter.
This GOProud guy is delusional as this very article makes obvious... "don't agree with his lifestyle choices" ??? Being gay is not a lifestyle choice.
This GOProud guy is delusional as this very article makes obvious... "don't agree with his lifestyle choices" ??? Being gay is not a lifestyle choice.
I like how the writer of this article say that they "don't agree with his lifestyle choices." When does being gay or straight become a lifestyle choice? You are either attracted to the opposite sex, or the same sex, it is not a lifestyle choice no matter how much this site blinds themselves with this nonsense.
The only reason that DADT took so long to pass was that the "supportive" Republicans lobbed a potential filibuster at the legislation which required 60+ votes to overcome. So to say that Republicans were the deciding factor in its passage is pure BS. Had the normal legislative process been able to proceed DODT would have been repealed with 51 votes YEARS ago.
You can't change reality with talking points, sorry.
I really like this guy. I don't have a problem with anyone's lifestyle choices, as long as they don't need my tax dollars to subsidize those choices. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!
Fucking gay faggot!! Ofcourse we don't like faggots. Atleast the the libs think we do, right!!
My problem is, the question of the "gay agenda." Does that mean, if someone who is gay wants to advocate for themselves politically? While I seriously doubt many Republicans personally dislike individuals because of them being gay, how could I say, I have no problem with that person being gay, although I don't approve of them living they way they do and pushing their "gay agenda." It seems a contradiction, to an extent. You think they're sinners and you oppose them advocating for themselves politically, only supporting them if they're supporting policy you like. It seems very self-serving and not particularly compassionate, though, I suppose, technically tolerant.
The words "lifestyle choice" are also problematic for me - is it disapproval of how gay people are or that they act upon their desires? Is it questioning if being gay is a choice?
It's all well and good to say you tolerate someone, but only if they accept what you want in terms of how they live. Gay rights isn't a "gay agenda" any more than civil rights was a "black" or "minority agenda." Most people just want equality. And, if a woman, or a gay man, or an African-American or whoever wants to be conservative or liberal, that's fine. But it's silly to advocate for a party that is not advocating for your demographic. But, if you do, because you agree on other points, it's your responsibility to voice your displeasure at their actions and encourage the party to change, that it may better represent its base. (And, if the Republican Party has really begun doing so through GOProud - sincerely, and not just to garnish votes, only to abandon promises later - then I applaud them.)
Cenk's Response (If you're interested): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82BfKrAX7wo
Also, as a disclaimer as to my perspective, I am a liberal female (I know, you're shocked). And, I do listen to Cenk sometimes, though I don't exactly agree with how he handled the interview, though I understand the point he was trying to make.
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