This is from Doc Thompson and I’d say take it for what it’s worth. But it doesn’t look good:

A friend has a connection in the office of a Member of Congress (in a leadership position.)
He forwarded this email exchange that seems to indicate the Republicans will agree to SOME new laws that limit your 2nd Amendment rights. Could it be that, behind closed doors, they have ALREADY caved in?




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Jay
Jay

This is crazy. I know the R's have no spine but have they lost their minds, too?

victoryman
victoryman

Of course they will cave. This is what the repubs do....cave! This is their specialty. Get in front of the TV cameras and talk tough.....the cave! The state run media will trot out "Republican" McCain and his sock puppet, Graham to explain to all the fine art of the "Cave." Wake up everyone and realize that behind all the Washington smoke and mirrors we have basically one party government. Does anyone with an IQ above that of a turnip actually believe that the "Fiscal cliff agreement" was reached at 2:00 AM New Year's Eve? Does anyone believe that the repubs in the House under the non-leadership of Boehner will stand up and do the right thing? If you do, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.....BUT WAIT! I'll give you a SECOND bridge free....just pay postage and handling!

Army_Pilot1967
Army_Pilot1967

I used to think the Republican Party was going to grow a big pair and take on the Dims, but I've got to concede and just give up after years of waiting for that to happen. Face it, folks, it's not going to happen. The Republicans are now accustomed to rolling over at the first hint of Dim resistance....no fight from the Repubs, now they just roll over and vote along with the Dims and cave-in way too easily. I'm depressed by what we've got in Congress. Where are the REAL leaders that we need so badly??????

bwalljr
bwalljr

Last night I watched a 10 year old movie for the first time. Anyone who thinks we should give up our firearms should watch "The Pianist". I kept thinking how different things in the Warsaw Ghetto would have been had Jews been armed with scary assault rifles. Of course they were disarmed as the Nazis murdered and terrorized them at will.

Never compromise on the wisdom of the 2nd Amendment.

NJK
NJK

The Republicans were put on notice prior to voting to raise taxes. They need to have every cent of funding pulled if they do this.

We have to start attacking this like Hobby Lobby is doing. You ignore the laws that are unconstitutional. It is our only way right now. If a member of Congress or the Supreme Court act unconstitutionally, it doesn't mean the law is now right. It only means they are acting unlawfully. IGNORE ANY LAWS THEY ENACT THAT ARE AGAINST THE BILL OF RIGHTS. Look at the airports. Why do these people fly? STOP FLYING SO YOU AREN'T RAPED.

redwolf6911
redwolf6911

Republican Senators and in the House, should be pressured by the NRA and most of all voters who believe in second amendment rights. They should be reminded to follow the constitution. This also applies to Democrats in right leaning states who are up for re-election in the mid-terms. We voters CAN make a difference. SCOTUS has already ruled on individual second amendment rights. Our representatives must be reminded of that fact.

mark1955
mark1955

That's not gonna work. The repubs have made it abudantly clear with their action's in helping to advance the statist agenda ever since President Reagan left office,that they are radical lefties,who are working hand in hand with the dems to achieve a NWO marxist/islamists slave state,for their oligarch Bankster masters Rockefeller/Rotschild.No amount of pressure on them and trying to work through the system at this stage will work. This Final betrayal will have meaned the repubs have collaborated on virtually everything. That's not a coincidence but Treasonous complicity.

The good thing is, this should Finally clear out any obstacles in our mind as to the formation of a Third Constitutionally Conservative Third Party. There should be Zero doubt anymore as to thinking we can achieve anything through the repub party anymore. They will after this be Finished as a political entity. We have nothing to lose.

Another Good thing,inspite of any legislation these Treasonous SOB'S Pass trying to reduce our God Given Second Ammendment Right's, they still have to come to our doors and other not so easy places,to TRY and take them away and we can say NO and back that NO up with TEETH!

stage9
stage9

RUSSIAN NEWS OUTLET PRAVDA PRINTS SURPRISING OPINION COLUMN WARNING USA: ‘NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/russian-news-outlet-pravda-prints-surprising-opinion-column-warning-usa-never-give-up-your-guns/

"One of the first things [the Soviets] did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much [to worry about] for soldiers."

oldlawman
oldlawman

The idiots in congress just don't get it. So lets see if I have this right, they ban high capacity mags (10 or more rounds), so what do you do? A five round mag is relatively small and light, so every one carries an extra one or two, while the criminals continue to carry their high cap. Hey you congress boneheads, they are criminals, and criminals are known for breaking the law. That's what they do. I would suggest everyone practice quickly changing mags at the range. Start slow so you don't shoot yourself in the foot, but you will be surprised at how fast and smooth you can get.

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

"...and criminals are known for breaking the law. That's what they do."

That's the smartest danged insight ever given! But I doubt if you'll get one fat headed, squinty-eyed, knee-banging pervert in the Democratic party to believe it.

Hopefully someone will publish a list of liberal Democrats who voted for Obama so that thieves and bandits can easily and efficiently locate houses where unarmed liberal families can be robbed, raped, hacked, mangled, fleeced, spindled, murdered and may-hemmed to the fullest in their foul hovels while CNN plays in the background.

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

"...and criminals are known for breaking the law. That's what they do."

That's the smartest danged insight ever given! But I doubt if you'll get one fat headed, squinty-eyed, knee-banging pervert in the Democratic party to believe it.

Hopefully someone will publish a list of liberal Democrats who voted for Obama so that thieves and bandits can easily and efficiently locate houses where unarmed liberal families can be robbed, raped, hacked, mangled, fleeced, spindled, murdered and may-hemmed to the fullest in their foul hovels while CNN plays in the background.

GiantM
GiantM

Hate to it say this folks, and for those of you who have the read the book: "The Harbinger" as it references the scripture from Isaiah 9:10. This and many other events to come [I'm sure] this year is only a continuation of what is written in Isaiah 9.

Just read Isaiah 9:13-21 http://tinyurl.com/apay73b

We ARE under GOD's judgement today. HE has blinded the leadership of this country as they have continually allowed the rejection of GOD and the foundational purpose of our great country. They [Washington] have turned their eye's to their lusts and idols. For that.... we [God fearing people] bare the burden's of a sinful and unrepentant nation!!

[Ezekiel 6:9]

GOD HELP US!

sDee
sDee

I have written here before - we should not underestimate the significance of outlawing magazines - of any capacity. It will make simply owning a semi automatic weapon probable cause for search and seizure - whether you are traveling to the range for some practice, sitting in your home cleaning your guns, or out hunting.

All the comments here reflect the reality that we no longer have a representative government. Only a two-sided cabal.

At this point it has got to be clear to all ............. this cabal intends legislation to disarm us in direct and intentional violation of the United States Constitution. This is a pivotal step in a multi-faceted global attack against liberty.

Of course the GOP will do nothing to stop it - they are an inherent part of it. Yes there may be some patriots working behind the scenes - but no one is coming to save us.

The die is cast.

the american insurrection .... where it will be fought

http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2012/12/the-american-insurrection-where-it-will-be-fought-.html

(btw....john jay also has a long list of other links in his December Archive)

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

You've said it all Dee. Keep it up! And keep it LOUD

MadAsHellJack
MadAsHellJack

So we're finally down to a ONE PARTY socialist/progressive/commie political system. Sad. And just think in 4 years if Obama doesn't become dictator for life we'll get Hitlery Klinton, then 8 years later Moochelle Antoinette and then 8 years later our first gay president and on down the line. Oh America we had the cure and still let you die. :(

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/russian-news-outlet-pravda-prints-surprising-opinion-column-warning-usa-never-give-up-your-guns/

If the Republicans give an inch on any aspect of gun control, that party must be destroyed, undermined, vilified and driven from this continent, their traitorous, cowardly history craved in stone for all future generations of patriots to despise..

Americans need to understand that the Second Amendment is not some silly gift some gun nuts in history wanted to leave their kids so they could support themselves hunting rabbits and deer and plinking at tin cans.

Those long dead men and women knew very well what tyrants were capable of and how it felt to live under the tyranny of a rich powerful man, a self-serving family of miscreants, a Church or any other institution or source of tyranny.

That Second Amendment is a demand on Americans to stiffen up. accept responsibility for your own life and that of your family and your posterity to keep and, when confronted , bear arms and bear them in anger with a willingness to kill for your liberty or die trying.

If you are not a gun owner, you are a failure as an American and you deserve what ever the vagaries of fate, Chicago, the Clinton family, Islam, the Catholic Church and the goddam Democratic and National Socialist Republican's Parties have in store for you.

When the SHTF, dig your own foxhole my gun-less friend.

mark1955
mark1955

http://barnhardt.biz/ If anyone would like to know Ann Barnhardts opinion of the Obama/Feinstein Firearms legislation and her thought's on how to handle it,scroll down to item #6 in her first post.

BY the way,agree 100% and excellent post!

physicsnut
physicsnut

This is easy. Feinstein is pushing the same crap that Hitler pushed in 1938. If that is not sufficient to make the nitwits think twice, then charge them with aiding and abetting it. The idiots have to get out of their tunnel vision, like clips, mounts, and all that lipstick on the pig. It is obvious from articles in the Economist and elsewhere what they want, because they say so in plain english ... namely Confiscation. What the Journal News did proves that registration leads to infringement. The traditional rule applies - every time the Bill of Rights is threatened, get more ammo.

ryanomaniac
ryanomaniac

Well just bought me a 40 cal. A couple days ago. Plan on buying more. More ammo...more guns.

aposematic
aposematic

Ever been to Mammonth Cave in South Central KY... Apparently, the GOP lives there!

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

Dull-witted, moron liberals, including Obama, will never let the souls of the Newtown babies rest and never allow the souls of the soldiers murdered in Texas be remembered.

If you suspect corruption in Washington DC, follow the money. If you find mass murder by weak, effeminate white males in suburbia, follow the liberal mothers.

Liberals, like immature, weak-minded people throughout history love blame. In ancient France, a pig was placed on trail and given an attorney for the murder of a child. The liberal mind, crawling in it black cave like worms in a pile of fresh manure, loves to find failing in others and avoid it in themselves. Whether the gun-man is captured alive or is dead, the Liberal mind wants nothing more than to prosecute the gun.

Jazzee
Jazzee

if the repubs cave on the 2nd amendment too...we are done as a country and they are absolutely done as a party

let them know.........not that they listen as evidenced by the deal they just agreed to in the senate

God help us all.....they have all sold us out

mark1955
mark1955

YES! If the repubs Fold on this it's over. They will then have become a Mirror image of the dem party much like the 'Whig' party was on the eve of the first Civil War and will be possibly responsible for taking this Country to another Horrific Civil War, as they could have stopped all of Obama's agenda,but chose instead to support it!

RCL
RCL

So you want to let the GOP seize our weapons BEFORE you decide they're working against us?

What does it take to get you to stand up for honest representation. You're being robbed and you're giving you're supporting the thief.

We need to sack the Republican Party.

StrangernFiction
StrangernFiction

"....assuming Democrats are actually serious about acting to address underlying issues that have contributed to these recent tragedies."

They aren't.

Tammy P
Tammy P

Interesting how a high profile gun tragedy triggers a large number of people to immediately castigate everyone who owns a firearm; a right protected by the second amendment. However, when someone dies of an alcohol related death , there is no consensus to incriminate all those who consume alcohol. The number of deaths in the U.S. caused by guns and caused by alcohol are not disproportionate. The consumption of alcohol is not specifically protected by the U.S. Constitution. The majority of the U.S. population seems to understand that alcohol, in and of itself, is not deadly unless it is placed in the wrong hands. Why then, can't these people apply this same line of thinking to firearms; a RIGHT protected by the second amendment?

Frank8881
Frank8881

Drink to much alcohol you kill yourself, shoot a gun you kill someone else. I see the difference.

Tammy P
Tammy P

Unfortunately, your scenario is much too narrow minded. Have you ever heard of a murderer who was drunk while committing his/her crime? Do you know the number of people who were killed in alcohol-related car crashes every year? Do you know what percent of those were children? My point? "Drink too much alcohol you kill yourself, shoot a gun and you kill someone else" is a ridiculous retort.

Nukeman60
Nukeman60

Why do I sense the next gun crazed fool on a rampage is here, blathering away how we are all Hitler's wanting to shut down the sane, common sense man who spends most of his time talking to the wall. "I'm sane, I tell you - sane. It's all of you who are wrong, incompetent, and who don't understand me. I will have my revenge, I say, my revenge..........."

KenInMontana
KenInMontana

Your point, like your argument is hackneyed and full of shite, your (HCI's) talking points have been thoroughly refuted at every turn, but you still insist on spreading your bovine offal. At this point I will now address an issue that is long overdue for attention, I'm going to free up some of your time so you can spend it with like-minded types at Salon or Huffpo, in simpler terms you're done here. Say good bye Frank.

Frank8881
Frank8881

Narrow minded because I can see the difference between guns and beer. Really, then lets just open up our minds. Balconies, do you know how many people who get thrown off balconies every year. Gotta ban them.

Swimming pools, so many people are drowned each year. No more swimming pools.

Baseball bats good-bye MLB.

I think you can see were I am going here. None of these items from alochol to swimming pools were designed for killing.

A gun is. Surely you can see my point.

aposematic
aposematic

Two things Tammy P: 1] They like drunks, and 2] If drinking alcohol were a Constitutional "right", they would be against it.

capelady
capelady

This is a video everyone should see... apparently the British people are not thrilled about their gun ban and this demonstration was the largest peaceful demonstration in their history! Piers Morgan can put this in his pipe and smoke it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n9ZvwPmjJu4#!

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

LOVE IT!! Thank you Capelady! Spreading it around now!

capelady
capelady

Well the Fox family are among the most famous actors in England. This was Edward Fox, but there is James, Laurence, and Robert (a producer). So they are very well known! I was blessed to see him there, and you are right, his opinion was right on!

These people really sound like our TEA Party... and it must earn them the same venomous condemnation from their liberals (like Piers Morgan)!

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

I'm sorry, no I didn't. Only British actors I really know are those from monty python and a few others. But very well could be- I loved what he had to say!

capelady
capelady

Did you recognize Edward Fox (famous British actor) right in the beginning? I wonder if he is their Charlton Heston? ;)

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

Excellent point TammyP, but I guess since the people can't throw off a tyrannical government with alcohol, and it helps people be left in a stupor, it's useful to the leftists to keep the masses subdued with it.

Frank8881
Frank8881

Drink to much alcohol you kill yourself, shoot a gun you kill someone else. I see the difference.

Alex
Alex

Then why did the leftist "progressives" play such a big part in banning it back in the 20s during Prohibition?

Because they want to control your life.

I'm a little tipsy right now on New Year's, I'm not being of any use to the leftists.

detectivedick
detectivedick

Happy New Year to all:

Please stay calm, the LIAR and Fin/Frankinstein are opening a can of worms. Do the math;

-800,000 police personnel in the USA

-330,000,000 people living in the USA

-350,000,000 guns in the USA

We could publish all a the names and addresses of the gun grabbers within the MSM and place them on the WWW. But stay calm, Obama wants a confrontation. Look,50 Tractor Trailers properly blocking roads in and out of DC can close down the City for days. Attached for your viewing pleasure is a great Obama clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Lives4Freedom
Lives4Freedom

The civilian national security force already exists dear leader....it's us. Coming from your mouth though, it sounds more like storm troopers.

queue music

K-Bob
K-Bob

It ain't about "calm."

Stay ALERT.