Heritage: Why Education Unions are bad for education

Posted by The Right Scoop The Right Scoop on September 15th, 2011 in Politics | 34 Comments

This is a great video that explains quite well the negative impact education unions have on education:

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe

    Unions – way back in the day- were necessary to assure BASIC rights for labor to avoid sweatshop conditions BUT

    Unions are now out of control – one such ridiculous example is >>>>
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38596955/ns/health-sexual_health/t/viagra-teachers-union-wants-taxpayers-fund-it/

    As far as I’m concerned they are now causing so much damage “in the name of laborer’s rights” they have buried themselves

    The fact that O’bummer loves their $$$ shows that he can be bought

    “Get a pledge from someone today that they will vote this guy out in 2012″

  • Anonymous

    Teachers were once one of the most highly regarded professions, but recently the public is losing respect for them. People have witnessed too many episodes where unions have acted irresponsibly. An example is the phony doctors excuses in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, the union racketeering clearly illustrated, and the public now feels government should no longer tolerate unions.

    It has passed the time to “flunk out” teacher unions.

    • Anonymous

      It is a shame they are not respected any longer. My son is in his 4th year teaching High School English. He was very excited with his career choice at the time. But after being there just a year and seeing the baloney that goes on, he is considering moving on. It’s too bad. He was born for this. He is enthusiastic and the kids like him. Both needed to be successful. They will lose a great teacher :(

      • Anonymous

        I agree, I have no animus to the rank & file except those who exploit their tenure and become parasites. It is the union leadership that produces no value, no product and no meritorious promotion to those who excel.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, I have no animus to the rank & file except those who exploit their tenure and become parasites. It is the union leadership that produces no value, no product and no meritorious promotion to those who excel.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        That is sad Debby. It’s a shame for people who are born into a certain career. Maybe he can find a position at a private school, or as a tutor?

      • Anonymous

        Debby, is he required to in a union and has he commented on whether or not it’s helpful, if so?

      • Anonymous

        Debbyx.. Your son deserves better, but moving on might not be easy. We have a couple of daughters in teaching also. One of them ignores the unions as much as possible and is extremely well paid in a community with widespread unemployment and financial hardship in this recession.

        Our other daughter happened to witness a teacher being cruel and abusive to a child with a mild handicap. Our daughter reported it to the principal who was afraid of the abusive teacher (a large heavy, muscular woman). The abusive teacher physically attacked our daughter in the hallway when nobody else was there. Our daughter went to the school board next and the teacher was eventually fired. … The abusive teacher had been the union representative. Our daughter received more threats. She resigned from the school and moved out of state.

        That affects my opinion about unions.

      • Anonymous

        Debbie, your not the first one I’ve heard these comments from. The day of the teacher who has the ability to excite their students over learning is over.The unions don’t want any teacher to go above and beyond in their teaching enthusiasm , it might make other teachers look bad .It’s so sad what is happening in our schools today.Thanks to the unions.

    • Anonymous

      It is a shame they are not respected any longer. My son is in his 4th year teaching High School English. He was very excited with his career choice at the time. But after being there just a year and seeing the baloney that goes on, he is considering moving on. It’s too bad. He was born for this. He is enthusiastic and the kids like him. Both needed to be successful. They will lose a great teacher :(

  • Anonymous

    Teachers were once one of the most highly regarded professions, but recently the public is losing respect for them. People have witnessed too many episodes where unions have acted irresponsibly. An example is the phony doctors excuses in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, the union racketeering clearly illustrated, and the public now feels government should no longer tolerate unions.

    It has passed the time to “flunk out” teacher unions.

  • Anonymous

    And Police unions, firefighters, EMT, etc. The point is that PUBLIC unions are bad.

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Us homeschool parents aren’t unionized.

    • Anonymous

      good one:)

    • Dan

      they are coming after you soon….the bamster only wants drones and YOU are not playing along with the game…..YOU will do as your told and dumb down your children weather you like it or not…….

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        All kidding aside, that has been my number 1 fear from this administration. I don’t know what I’d do, but I sure as heck wouldn’t give up without a fight.

        • Anonymous

          My wife and I fought the State of South Carolina many years ago when we were charged with “educational neglect”, and kicked their butts :-)

          Even our 4 yr old at the time was reading at the third grade level.

          I said this in open court: “What place is this state in regarding the education of children? Isn’t it dead last? Every parent in this state should sue the state itself for educational neglect”.

          We had them all tested by a local private school before the “hearing” and they all scored well above their respective grade levels.

          Case dismissed. The entire court proceding lasted about 10 minutes.

          • Anonymous

            WOOT! Triple-liked! You go!

          • Anonymous

            WOOT! Triple-liked! You go!

            • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

              Amen to that! Those are stories I love to hear Rshill!

    • Anonymous

      I knew there was a reason I liked you.

      I got a full set of genius kids in my house. My boys were given standardized tests recently and both scored in 90+ percentile in a number of subjects in this county, which has a good rep for education. My eldest just got into a charter school since we felt he’d have excellent opportunities that we couldn’t offer. He’s 12 and has been home schooled up to the this point.

      • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

        :-)
        I’ll not claim that my son is brilliant, although he is smart for his age in some areas. He’s not a fan of school- whether at home or anywhere else, but for me, homeschool is where it’s at, so we can take the time he needs for some subject he has a hard time with, and go deeper and beyond age classification with subjects he accels at. No limits to what and how he learns!

  • Anonymous

    When any union stops bargaining and begins demanding they are no longer viable. They need to bargain commensurate with services rendered and quit demanding for more benefits and less service.

  • B-Funk

    Hopefully someone here can help me out here. I’ve been wondering about merit pay for teachers. There aren’t many places on the web, that I’ve found, that give me the information I’m looking for or are not directly linked with the teachers’ union. How does merit pay work? How do we track a teacher’s progress/skill, since testing is obviously a waste of time? How do we make it beneficial for us- Parents, Students, communities- and also beneficial for teachers?

  • B-Funk

    Hopefully someone here can help me out here. I’ve been wondering about merit pay for teachers. There aren’t many places on the web, that I’ve found, that give me the information I’m looking for or are not directly linked with the teachers’ union. How does merit pay work? How do we track a teacher’s progress/skill, since testing is obviously a waste of time? How do we make it beneficial for us- Parents, Students, communities- and also beneficial for teachers?

  • FishyGov

    K12.com isn’t unionized. They don’t have a brick and mortar school building to maintain, expensive buses transporting students to and fro, gangs, bullies, drugs, teachers sexually assaulting their students…

    Make the move from the 20th to the 21st century modern, nonunion schools.

    Need I say more?

  • Anonymous

    If one parent can stay home, or if parents can stagger their work schedules, there is no need to do business with the public schools. Home-schooling delivers dividends in so many ways.

    The common objections to homeschooling are all bogus. Does anyone here have objections to homeschooling? If you say socialization, I might have to show you my lunch. It’ll look a bit different than it did when I ate it though.

    I see no benefits to public schooling. There are many negatives to it though. Probably one of the biggest detriments of public schooling these days would be their open hostility to Christianity and traditional morality.

    • Anonymous

      All of us homeschool families can repeat all the horse manure excuses, and “socialization” comes to the top of the list. We’re all very involved in extracurricular activities, have play dates, homeschool group activities, church functions, etc. It’s always the same stupid accusation. Every. Single. Time.

      -Steprock is a homeschool kid who went on to do bigger and better things with his life, including raise well-adjusted, outgoing, high scoring homeschooled kids of his own.-

      • Anonymous

        Often those accusations from come lazy parents who don’t give enough of a durn to make certain their kids are well-educated. Lazy, and ultimately, selfish.

      • Anonymous

        Often those accusations from come lazy parents who don’t give enough of a durn to make certain their kids are well-educated. Lazy, and ultimately, selfish.

    • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

      I agree there are NO excuses. We’re still homeschooling on an extremely tight no income budget, but in this age of the Internet, there is no excuse for money issues. Some of the co ops and support groups we’ve been in have had folks of all ages homeschooling. We’ve had grandparents schooling their grandkids, single parents and widows, aunts uncles- you name it. There is, as you said, no benefits at all to public “education”. Period. :-D

  • Anonymous

    If one parent can stay home, or if parents can stagger their work schedules, there is no need to do business with the public schools. Home-schooling delivers dividends in so many ways.

    The common objections to homeschooling are all bogus. Does anyone here have objections to homeschooling? If you say socialization, I might have to show you my lunch. It’ll look a bit different than it did when I ate it though.

    I see no benefits to public schooling. There are many negatives to it though. Probably one of the biggest detriments of public schooling these days would be their open hostility to Christianity and traditional morality.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of good videos on the Heritage site. Check them out!

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t a good video in my opinion. Too much time spent on making a tenuous connection, insultingly simple graphics and format. Definitely not enough time spent making the real point. Not enough information.

    There’s a point made about teachers not being allowed to tutor on Saturdays. I question whether that’s a real problem, and (not being a parent) I wonder how parents feel about their children being alone with an adult … the point was made with a female student and a male teacher. If I were a parent, I’d be very suspicious of such an arrangement.

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