Herman Cain at SRLC

Nice story about the bumblebee that can't fly. Except it's complete bull. Wikipedia lists the story as a folklore myth. There's no way his musings about windtunnels and Phd students is taken from reality.
And the statement that bumblebees fly only because they believe they can fly is really daring. I realize that it is probably only metaphoric but still. I don't like politicians who believe we can bend the laws of physics by 'believing'.

When I said it could be a metaphor I was only referring to the idea that bumblebees can fly because they believe they can. The other part clearly wasn't metaphoric. He flat out stated that he learned in college that the bumblebee can't fly by matemathic and aerodynamic laws. So either he had a lousy teacher who taught hearsay or he didn't learn that.

Lighten up. It was suppose to be enthusiastic. No big deal.

Ya know…that WOULD be pretty cool if he ran in 2012. I guess we'll have to see.

Meanwhile, to answer ndes' criticism of the bumblebee anecdote…believing that one can bend the laws of physics just by “believing,” isn't any more crazy than believing that there's a “Heaven” for good people and a “Hell” for bad people.

Superman CAN FLY! —let's go with Herman CAIN !! NOW and LATER TOO!

Yes it is, one is contradicted by empirical evidence, the other is just up in the air.

He kind of lost me with the bumblebee thing, but who cares.

Does he have the right ideas about government? You bet he does. He could say he rides to work everyday on a unicorn and I wouldn't care.

Ron Paul's actually had it right much longer than anyone else and all those things he was called a “crazy kook” for came true. His speech wasn't as passionate as Cain's, but he had it truly on the spot. You can't just pick and choose in limited government if you want to bring this ever-increasing deficit to a halt and save us from the mess we're in.

Now you're playing semantics with the term 'bending the laws of physics'.

Well, my point is that they're both equally crazy ideas.

all people are bad…they have to be taught to be good. In Christianity, no one goes to hell for being bad, they go to hell for denying God. Feel free to not believe that, it's fine…but at least, if you're going to represent Christianity or Judaism in that way, try to be theologically correct–and then make fun of it;)

Obama must stop being a professor and become a statesman with better focused eyes, and surrond himself with statesman.

Dear ndes:

If, in reality, they were comparing the bee in the wind tunnel to the aerodynamics of fixed wing flight, the story is indeed true. Bee's don't use fixed wing lift.

The analogy to today's political situation is that democrats don't understand how to fix underlying problems. They look at the wrong things and offer the wrong solutions. Much like the bumblebee example. How the wings move and the speed at which they move is the real issue. Costs control through private competition is the solution…not government control of healthcare. I.E. Analogous to looking at the wrong model for flight. The bumblebee believes he can fly because…(a) he is doing it…and (b) it “knows” this because the model he lives under is valid…not unscientific, unthinking, or unsound. It's not because he “believes it” therefore I fly…he flys…therefore he believes it.

You guys crack me up.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1076/i…

ndes, Check your facts – from Oxford University:
The old myth that ‘bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly’ was based on calculations using the aerodynamic theory of 1918-19, just 15 years after the Wright brothers made the first powered flight. These early theories suggested that bumblebee wings were too small to create sufficient lift but since then scientists have made huge advances in understanding aerodynamics and how different kinds of airflow can generate lift.
Provided by Oxford University (news : web)

Experience, Integrity, Values, Leadership………Herman Cain 2012….. A Real American!!

Aerodynamically, the F16 should not be able to fly either. It only flies because an on-board computer keeps it aerodynamically stable.

It was an analogy to prove a point. BELIEVE!!!

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Anyone who hasn't seen this, You really should watch this video!! Talk about common sense! All I wanna know is wher were you in '08 Herman 'Ol Buddy!

Okay let the man talk, at least he is making sense out of something.. when you can't stand for something …you might as well not stand at all…I liked his speech..

The bumblebees-can't-fly calculation is from the 1930s. It was in the 1990s that scientists figured out how bumblebees manage the trick. See this article: http://www.physics.org/featuredetail.asp?id=32 — that 60-year period includes Cain's time in college (mine too).