I fail to see the jump from what Cain said to "China has no nukes". I think it takes just a wee bit of bias to make that jump.
The next thing Herman Cain is going to say is, "I can see China from my front lawn."
That's all this country needs is a nincompoop in the White House.
All I can say is keep attacking Romney on his flip flops and Karma will do its job on your candidate.
I'm curious why Cain wouldn't advocate of letting his accuser tell her side of the story. Ya Ya Ya non disclosure agreement. Cain should at least say publicly that he supports the idea that she should be given a chance to tell her side regardless of the agreement. If Cain is GOP'S nominee then you can say HELLO to Obama for another 4 years.
He misspoke guys. He misspoke on Guantanamo prisoner trade w/ 1 American prisoner. He misspoke on electrified border fence. He misspoke on abortion. He misspoke on offending Muslims so he had to apologized. He misspoke on sexual harassment about the settlement. The list just keeps getting longer. Honestly, Cain's list of flip flops quadruples Romney's. Wow! "I will still support Cain no matter what"
Let's see. off the top of my head. He is a radio talk show host and candidate for president, but.....
doesn't have a clue what the 'right of return' is
doesn't know what a neo-conservative is
doesn't know that China has nuclear capability
calls our most important ally in a very troubled part of the world, bekibekibekistan as a lame joke to hide his lack of knowledge
There is lots more, but why bother. The guy is seriously unserious. I think it is an embarrassment to conservatives that he is leading in the polls. Switch to any of the others if you can't stomach Romney. But please stop giving this clown a pass.
Is the media really "trying to destroy him" by asking puffball questions about foreign relations? Cain brought up the nuclear issue himself- Woodruff didn't even allude to that. If asking a candidate to speak on any topic is considered 'gotcha journalism' these days we are in trouble on all sides.
I don't think Woodruff was rough on him at all...I just think the parsing of words here is the real problem. Cain was working for the Navy when China set off it's first nuke. It's just not possible that he doesn't know they have nukes...the "gotcha" journalism happens AFTER the interview in this case:(
Cain doesn't flinch and tries to answer every question without pretense...he's getting better at seeing the curveball questions coming at him. I've never even seen him get mad at someone who he knows is trying to corner him or put words in his mouth. That Lawrence O'Donnell interview was as awful as I've ever seen and Cain was still gracious at the end and said he'd come back, even.
If he can weather this storm, I think all this junk will backfire on those who kicked this all off...and my guess is it's the Perry campaign.
"trying to develop nuclear capability" can mean ICBM's. You can have nukes and still be developing better and different ways to deploy that arsenal.
You people commenting on cains knowing of china's capability do know that cain was a rocket scientist working for the Navy right ....right
It's not a matter of knowledge, but a matter of judgement. Put the candidates on trial. Give them a case. Think of how each would come to their decisions. How many would pander to the public? How many would do what is popular or what makes them look good? How many would make an honest assessment and a good decision?
As Cain has pointed out on numerous occasions, he does not have all the information that is available. He may not have as much information as you and me. While it is hard to say this, he may NOT have known that China has nukes.
However, it is not about the information he has right now. It is about his judgement and agenda. Cain wants America to be prosperous again. When he sees waste and duplication in federal programs, he wants to cut them. When he sees that taxes and regulations are killing jobs, he wants to reform them. When he gets all of the details about our foreign affairs, I am 100% confident that he can make a good, solid decision about how to deal with it. You can argue all you want to about what he knows or not, but you cannot argue with his solid, lifelong record of making the right decisions and getting things done.
Cain does screw up from time to time, but Obama IS a screw up. I would be willing to forgive any true American. Cain is. Obama is a Communist.
Scoop do not ever say "i lke herman cain i really do" ever again that is exactly what people at politico, geraldo, bill o'riely, dana perino etc say all the time they are all rinos and all in the tank for Romney or lying their faces off think about that all of you playing this game reminds people too much of Palin and are in serious jeopardy of being written off... just sayin
I would have to agree with you. He is in the top tier now. He needs advisors like John Bolton to give him some international experience to lean on. I really think he "misspoke" ...again, but that is not going to hold up for much longer. He has got to be CORRECT, and CLEAR, ALL the time.
"So yes they’re a military threat. They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. "
the percentage of american's that knew China purchased a carrier from Russia and that that are working towards making it operational is a very small number. The speaks to Cains knowledge on the subject. In fact I doubt most political pundits even knew this fact.
edit: just thought of something else, During the interview woodruff didnt even notice the answer was "wrong". No one outside those of us in the military could even have a chance of knowing the details of china's military. And most of my peers are likely clueless as well since we are focused elsewhere.
Personally I think Cain left out one word: "They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop [additional] nuclear capability"
I mean honestly, how many people know the exact number of nukes china has that can range the US mainland? It was only in the last decade that they acheived the ability to hit more than Hawaii when they deployed their D18 missles. and yes they are trying to develolpe more capablilty so that when they invade Taiwain, we wont want to contest that action.
next question, how many people know that the President Wants to cut our strategic nuke forces by one third. How many pundits can name all three legs of the triad? which three airforce bombers can deliever nukes? What is the name of the Navies SSBN, how many nukes does it carry. does China have an SSBN. How many ICBMs does the US still have?
do you really expect our candidates to know the answers? Cain knows china is a threat, he knows they have nukes and are working to develope additional capablilty. Next question, does President Obama care that China is developing increased nuke capablity IOT make us but out when they invade Tawain? Nope, he doesnt. Cain obviously does.
Sorry, but I don't do fantasy politics. If Cain's the best we've got we are beautifully screwed.
BTW: one of Cain's accusers came out this morning and said he's lying. Do you like butter with your toast?
I'm sorry, but you're an idiot...he was working for the Navy in 1967 when China set off its' first hydrogen bomb!!!!! I think he knows they have nukes.
Ok, this is just getting silly now. China began it's nuclear program in the '50's. By 1964, they had succesfully set off their own nuclear bomb.
Cain was working for the Dept of the Navy the same year China set off it's first hydrogen bomb.
I think it's more than safe to say that he knows China has nukes.
GET A GRIP, HATERS.
Listen to the interview. He says "in" not "and." It is an easy error in transcription. It does sound a little like "an", but clearly isn't. He said "in." His statement is 100% factually correct and shows a clear understanding of the Chinese threat and how to appropriately handle it. There are apologies due. You can make up for them sending your contribution to hermancain.com.
He shouldn't have Muslims in the Whitehouse, they are our enemies and they do want to kill you. The sex stuff isn't a scandal, don't know abou the pro-life stuff. Totally agree on your PS.
I don't get the point. He didn't say that they don't have nuclear capability, but that they are developing (which is a normal event for every nuclear power - except the US right now).
This post is nonsense add the word "further" to
"So yes they’re a military threat. They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have"
and you have
"So yes they’re a military threat. They’ve indicated that they’re trying to further develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have"
Do you not think he was talking about nuclear AIRCRAFT CARRIERS if that little point escapes you then who the hell are you to comment on a so called "gaffe" either that or this post is dishonest I am not that big a cain supporter but after the Politico hit job I like others are seeing a very PALINESQUE PILE ON which is turning me off a lot of so called conservatives. how very "new york times drive by" of you scoop I really expected better
by 2050, Peoples Republic China will surpass the USA... I am not a socialist or anything. But if this was 2051, hopefully people like Michael Moore and the crew of MSN-LGBT will go live over there, since it will be considered by the left--- to be the better country
Would you please get serious. His syntax/grammar was poor, but what he meant is obvious. You think Cain doesn't know that China has nukes? Whaaaaat?
Not one to cover for Cain, but c'mon! BY "develop nuclear capability" he obviously meant increase/improve their nuclear capabilities. He just didn't add the word "further". This is just silly.
Since he was talking about China wanting to build new carriers and nuclear capabilities in the same sentence... I think he was talking about the stuff that has been in the news over the past couple years of China wanting to build new enhanced nuclear carriers. But, you are right....he needs to be more specific even in rushed interviews. He was, afterall, a rocket scientist for the Navy once. I'm thinking he knows China's capabilities.
This is the one biggest knock on Cain... Foreign Policy... Once again he proves this is his weakness
this is getting old correcting all you "foreign policy experts"...china set off its' first nuke in 1964...Cain worked at the Dept of the Navy in 1967 the same year China set off its' first hydogen bomb. I think Cain knows China is a nuclear power...considering they're building 25 more nuclear power plants as we speak.
The reason why it's not a big disadvantage is that no one else in the field (except Huntsman) has any foreign policy experience either. You can argue Newt, but making him a possible VP choice was a smart move.
I like Herman Cain. However, with his weakness in foreign policy and the way the Middle East is right now,and China breathing down our necks, he's honestly not ready to be President. Look at the recent events with a terrorist who almost assassinated the prime minister of Saudi Arabia on our soil who was funded by Iran, how would a President Cain handle that type of situation with his lack of experience in foreing policy? Our country simply can not afford another on the job training candidate, which is what we will get with Cain. Sure he has the executive experience and is the non politician in the current pool of candidates. He needs to run for governor of Georgia or the U.S. Senate and gain that experience I am looking for in a candidate.
All Herman Cain is doing is admitting he's going to do the same thing every president has done. Wait until they get into office and have access to a lot of information no one has but the president, and then figure out what to do. The difference with past and present candidates is he isn't pretending to already know what he'll do.
Please read his statement over again.
He does NOT say China has no nukes .
Reading comprehension is essential . Projecting something into a statement is not
I agree that Cain's lack of knowledge in some areas is only important right now because the rabid media is so eager to pounce. I have every confidence that Cain is able (see what I did there?) to get caught up on all the various details in a far more meaningful way than most other candidates from most election years, not just this one.
Yes, I think the key for him is going to be putting as many fixes on the table that people can understand like 9-9-9 out there for we all to push him thru. If we understand what he is trying to do here and around the world, unlike everybody else, he gets in. I'm excited to hear about the Energy Plan and Healthcare plans he will be proposing, the bottom line is talk is cheap, I want specifics I can support and explain to others.
He's apparently talking about nuclear aircraft carriers and he's right.
Ps, Romney is not getting the domination. Neocons are out , over , done.
Conservatives are in, We want a strong defense and little or NO OFFENSE. unless attacked by the country that attacks us.
Or at least one that is a possible immediate threat ,not made up threats from info found for us by the europeans. ie Saddams WMD's and Libya's "connection" to Lockerbie.
He makes a lot of gaffs because he's not a politician. I'm sure he knows that china has nukes and probably means that china is trying to expand their nuclear capabilities.
I don't think there is a problem in his team, I understand he has Pentagon people with him. I think is just the way he talks, he does not finish sentences sometimes, leaves stuff half way said and misspeaks. Today with O'reilly he said he would defend the enemy. Do I really think he is going to defend the enemy? :) Noo With business stuff he is more fluent for obvious reasons.
Cain made more inconsistencies in 3 weeks in comparison to Romney's flip flops in less than 2 decades. Come on, Cain. Al Qaeda trade, electrified border fence, 3page bill, apology to Muslims...Sorry too many walk backs already.
No one believes you. There are a lot of hard core Romney supporters like you who are commenting on these stories pretending you're a conservative. You're trying to give the impression people are leaving Cain because of this, but so far there's no evidence of it. You probably should have kept in the realm of reality by saying "back to Perry."
I'm not about to write Cain off over this... unlike, Obama, at least he knows who our enemies are. It's the man's policies that I want to see implemented.
Scoop, can you get the video of Cain"s entire interview with O'Reilly? Fox News has only uploaded the part about the accusations.
Among the definitions of develop are "to make active or promote the growth of" and "to expand by a process of growth" and "to cause to grow and differentiate"....develop doesn't just mean to create from scratch folks...
I mean if this was any Democrat we would be all over it, and we would make fun of them to no end. Either that or we would be scared out of our minds. If we won't tolerate it in liberals, we shouldn't tolerate it in our candidate. Cain was my 2nd favorite candidate until this. Now it would have to go to Perry. Can someone get an exception to the Natural Born Citizen thing and ask if we can run Daniel Hannan? (tongue in cheek obviously, but I want that guy on our side of the pond bad)
Jim...I have to call BS on that. When Obama steps in it, it never makes air time. It ends up on the cutting room floor. Obama has never been challenged, only puff balls thrown oh so gently.
That isn't what I am saying at all. Yeah when Obama has a gaffe the liberal media doesn't cover it much if at all, but it usually ends up here, and even if it doesn't some conservative blog picks it up. (Brietbart etc) Whenever something like that happens, those on the right, rightly (no pun intended) blast him for it. Yes our liberal friends are hypocrites for giving Obama a pass while getting after Cain for this, but don't be guilty of the same hypocrisy.