Herman Cain came out in support for collective bargaining for wages and other benefits for public sector employees at the Journal Sentinel.

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Monday that he believes public employees should be allowed to bargain collectively on wages and other benefits as long as it does not create an undue burden on taxpayers. …

Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”

Told they didn’t, he said, “They have unions.”

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And then there is this video on Libya. I think it’s much worse than the Perry flub in the debate. Just watch:

Sorry guys, but I’ve been behind Cain for a long time and I can’t support him any longer. He is sounding worse and worse as time goes on and that Libya answer…it was horrible. It’s like he’s afraid to say the wrong thing and his fumbling around was cringe worthy. There are other videos at the Journal Sentinel and you can go there and listen and read. I don’t think anything he could say now will convince me to support him. I need competence in a president.

Another look at Newt?




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Joseph Watkins
Joseph Watkins

All you haters suck. You call yourselves conservatives and whine and moan about spineless weak republicans that cave all the time. Listen to yourselves! "Did you agree with President Obama on Libya?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Obama have a clear unwavering plan from the get go?! Our bumbling community organizer in chief never has a clear plan/idea when it comes to foreign policy, so how can you quickly answer that yes or no question. You people are part of the problem not the solution. Look in the mirror and realize that you the same weak republicans you have no respect for.

cabensg
cabensg

Huntsman not only doesn't represent the base he is in almost every way a liberal. He should actually just change parties instead of pretending he's a Republican. Even the word Rino doesn't go far enough to describe his beliefs.

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

DB, that is taught as a way of thinking of a more convincing lie. Journalism 101.

Try Perry/Gingrich, with Sarah as Sec state.

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

I have no clue where you are coming from, but I have had that experience. Rape is a violent, destroying act, to an innocent woman. Do you have any idea how pregnancy changes a woman? Are you in favor of, okay destroy the woman, have a abused baby, ruin 2, 3, 4 lives. Abortion for rape, or incest, is not a real decision, if you understand. I think Cain is removed from all that, and dislike him for it.

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

Like Perry said, you have a heart. POTUS can glut the Supreme court,and get any diecison he wants. Just watch Obs work.

Joshua Gartrell
Joshua Gartrell

Let's give this guy the ability to be human. How many hours has he been exposing himself to media, cameras, interviews, etc... How does this compare to the other candidates? Romney is hiding until all the true conservatives kill each other off, the GOP base is done devouring their best options and only are left with too-fake-Mitt.

carlstone
carlstone

C'mon people - you're all ignoring the one candidate who has a chance to beat Obama and bring this country back to greatness - Fred Karger!

Jim Bummer
Jim Bummer

Oh, and many Federal workers DO, in fact, enjoy collective bargaining rights.

Jim Bummer
Jim Bummer

He gave the right answer on Libya, and said he supported collective bargaining NOT collective hijacking, and that the taxpayers should come first.

If you're dumping him over this, and throwing in with Gingrich wh can't be trusted further than he can be thrown, you're a weak person that is conceding defeat to the media.

Steve
Steve

Another look at Newt... Sorry Cain, but being the President of the United States mean, you get 4 hours of sleep and the next morning you are in cabinet meetings and you are discussing policy. If this is how you explain your poor performance, you are obviously not cut out to be President. Maybe as CEO you could just call off or re-schedule meetings, but when it comes to the American people, we need someone who can answer that call at 4am and make the best choice.

Michelle L. Stokes-Stanford
Michelle L. Stokes-Stanford

If you are wanting someone who will answer the phone and make a decision with little to no imput, then do you know what you are asking for?

Magnus A
Magnus A

Alexa statistics for pundits AND nerds...?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6347897742_d01c2b218c.jpg

Large interest for Cains website since late September (the Florida poll?). Newt is now rising, and Cain, Romney, and Gingrich has right now the most visited sites.

Bachmann, and (unfortunately) Sanctorum has very low traffic. (Sanctorum in an interview on your blog seemed strong on foreign policy, and on other topics; has appeared like "weak" (too humble?) in debates? If not president ("God forgive"...), a "super VP" -- or a good Romney VP to "balance faith"?...)

rex
rex

Like he was a huge supporter of Nafta and GATT? Without Newt those wouldn't have ever passed? Like those skeletons? Even if Newt doesn't give two hoots everyone else should.

rex
rex

Doesn't he work in "the media"?

Jeff Song
Jeff Song

If you are concerned about the big issues then you should consdier that Cain said that the people that are saying that the housing bubble is about to end are "not only wrong, but irresponsible" --- just before the end of the bubble.

What are the big issues? If you want to fix the mess you need to understand how you got in the mess in the first place. Basically it was keynesian economics that did it. He thinks that Mr. keynesian (Greenspan) is a good model for the next FED chair. ie. Cain doesn't seem to think keynesian economics is a problem.

Chris Dias
Chris Dias

Crap, Don't tell me that. I'm going to cry for Sarah.

TT
TT

I don't see these as bad as you make them out to be Scoop. Perhaps you are being influenced by others whom you respect?

TT
TT

Newt is not a newt but he may be a chameleon, changing colors to fit the political scene. He knows the talk! What do his actions tell us??

Lacey
Lacey

In all due respect, this is what I have been seeing in a good majority of his interviews. I feel like he is just winging it. That is just more of the same but with no content. And for the record Cain isn't the only one to get us out of the mess were in.

mike morrison
mike morrison

He said he is 100% prolife in every situation. How can he be more prolife than that? The only other GOP candidate that is at least as prolife as he is, is Santorum.

Also, Cain has given 1 million dollars of his own money in prolife causes. How much do you think any of the other candidates have donated????

The president can't overturn Roe v Wade on his own. He said he'd defund planned parenthood and stop all federal support of abortions if put in front of him to pass.

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

FYI donations to charity are deductable from your CEO income tax. I wonder how many millions he saved. Just stick with the campaign issues.

Chris Dias
Chris Dias

I have to study it further. I don't understand your beef exactly. The president doesn't have to know everything, but does need to be a good delegation. I'll watch it again and I'm not clear on collective bargaining.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

I agree, and I also watched it again and thought more about my gut feeling about him. Posted later.

Anthony
Anthony

Herman Cain: "Newt would be an excellent president. But I just don't know if he can get there." I know talking to independents and many Republicans, they just don't feel right about Newt for some reason, while Cain is the most electable adding to Reagan democrat base with an upbeat positive executive style if we can ever let him get past the axelrod/allred false allegations!

Read More http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201111/herman-cain-interview-alan-richman-chris-heath-devin-gordon#ixzz1dkEmB9HP

Anthony
Anthony

not sure. must be something someone thinks he means or the way he is trying to answer while avoiding their gotcha moments.

Liberty Tree
Liberty Tree

He's a smart and great guy, but just not ready for this level yet! We need someone who is competent on the issues. That doesn't mean he needs to know everything, but when I know more than him about Libya and i just started tuning into politics and issues facing our country 3 years ago, that is BAD! i don't want someone who is going to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, who is supposedly going to lead the free world, to be this ignorant about foreign policy. He'll have some experts around him, but C'MON at least know more than me about these things, and i don't know much, so that's saying a lot about what he knows about foreign policy!

blackbird
blackbird

The Libya response was not such an issue for me but the collective bargaining response was.

David
David

Chances that Cain has always been Romney's plant to help Mitt get elected? Anyone know of any relationship between the two?

Simon Kane
Simon Kane

I'd sure love to grill any of you for 10 days in a row and maybe 4 hours sleep a night. Jerks. :(

Danny
Danny

Much in the way you might feel after actually consuming a Godfather's Pizza?

deo heerai
deo heerai

If We let others tell us who is worthy but not listen to our own hearts and minds then we will get the candidate we deserve, we will get ROMNEY and we have no one to blame but OURSELVES

Stormwalker
Stormwalker

True. Herman Cain is running for President. True. The media, and anybody in the media, is looking for soundbytes, recordings, transcripted statements (sometimes edited), facial expressions, anything that would make their argument, that "this guy is no good".

With that in front of him, and having been served whatever question, in whichever writer's slant upon that question (like that rat bastard moderator in Sat.'s debate), even I, would take a moment, to remember what was done, and how I would opine on that!

I'm a published writer. I understand that there are moments that you wish to send "zingers", couched in other phrases, unknown to the recipient, but known to the reader. There are times I ask questions from viewpoints, possibly not thought about, or prepared to answer. That's what these guys do! When I was job-hunting, I had to be able to field all sorts of questions in regards to my expertise in the field I was pursuing. Yet, there were a few, that I had to stop and get it in gear, too.

I believe the man is qualified. I believe that he is a better choice than the current usurper in charge. He is not a career politician. I endorse his tax plan. I endorse his statements as Commander-in-Chief. You may have views on foreign policy, but until someone takes the Oath of Office, they don't know JS. I believe that The Usurper has attempted a Chicago-style besmirching campaign that is false. I KNOW that Herman Cain is a natural born American.

zytekfan
zytekfan

Welllll.... now I'm looking seriously at Gingrich....

Christopher McCray
Christopher McCray

I just looked at the Libya clip, and I'm still trying to find the problem with it. Somebody clue me in as to why I'm suppose to not be happy about this clip?

Anthony
Anthony

he was so tired that he took a long time to get his thoughts together, so we should throw him under a bus???

Joshua Saunders
Joshua Saunders

I don't have a problem so much with his answer, as I have to his presentation of his answer. Not just in how long he took to think about it, I agree with others thats a stupid yardstick, but his response was unresearched, vague, and not presidential. Overall, it was not the libya response that sent me out of his corner, but the union thing, and a culmination of many different things that ended up costing him my vote (more then likely anyway) I just no longer have the confidence that 1.) he is capable of running a competent campaign against obama and 2.) that he is as conservative as some of the other candidates, and on paper, not even to the right of romney on a great many different things.

David
David

If you knew what's expected from a Presidential candidate then its quite obvious what the problemS were...including the very first question posed to him.

Karla Heidt
Karla Heidt

He's reiterating himself because many in the media have a hearing problem and he wants to make for sure they heard him right. I have no problem with that.

I think many people don't really like Cain and are just looking for a reason to say "no thanks". Well, not me.

I am a mother of two and I believe that Cain is the best man to bring this country around so that my children actually have a country to grow up in.

Karla Heidt
Karla Heidt

I don't know what my family would do in an instance like that. I am pro-life but I cannot fault a woman who feels her only recourse is to abort a baby that was conceived through rape or incest. I don't like it personally, but I couldn't throw her under the bus for it. I also have a unique perspective on this because my husband's cousin contracted a bad strain of colon cancer. It was caught at an ultrasound after she found out she was pregnant. She was so early in her pregnancy that if she put off treatment, her and the baby would both die, so the family made the heartbreaking decision to have an abortion done so that she could start treatment. I don't like it, and we cried almost all day when we found out, but at the same time, we couldn't fault them for that decision.

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

Moving story! Think about a married raped woman. If the act does not destroy the family, the daily reminder surely will. That is a 4 fer. Don't even consider adoption. I have seen 'instituional adoption', and it is a real horror story. Convient abortion is an entirely different situation. U would not even begin to believe the terrible effects of incest. I who lived it, cannot fully understand it my self.

Karla Heidt
Karla Heidt

His position on abortion is that he is pro-life and always has been. All he has said is that as president he can't force the issue, and unlike our current premier Obama, he won't force Executive Orders everywhere, but he did say that if Congress brings legislation to his desk that defunds Planned Parenthood and makes abortion illegal, he will sign it. Yes, he did support the first TARP until he saw what happened with the money. What host of other things do you have a problem with and maybe some of us can set you straight?

orthodoxyordeath
orthodoxyordeath

Here's the fact, the way that the political races are portrayed, we don't actually see and get to analyze "deep" thought. What we get is a battle of who is the best at mental contortions. That's what debates are, mentally contorting to answer deeply convoluted political issues in short amounts of time, quickly, with no real specific prep. It's stupid. This is stupid. Still with Cain.

Karla Heidt
Karla Heidt

Cain is NOT out yet. I am getting sick and tired of all of these Fair Weather supporters. Are all of you people just resigned to the fact that without Cain, we will have 4 more years of Obama? I hate to say it but unless there is a Black man on the GOP side of the election, the race card will still be on the table and Obama will tout it for all it's worth.

Karla Heidt
Karla Heidt

For all that is Holy, he is NOT falling apart. He had 4 hours of sleep and had to answer questions that were all over the map. How would you answer the question "Do you agree with Obama on Lybia?" at the snap of your fingers? Do we even know what Obama's position on Lybia is??

Allen Poe
Allen Poe

Oddly I do, he wants to send aid to Lybia, so they can train more terrorists. Of course, I am not a CEO, just read history and news. Oh, I am better than Cain at Math, or so school told me.

Dan
Dan

its not a matter of being fair weather it is a mater of UNIONS-----i hate UNIONS....will not vote for a union man and that looks like what CAIN is....now if he changes his mind and reverses his stand then maybe....but then he looks like a waffler....he's either not sure of himself or if he is tired-----take a dam break....