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Are we really going along with this,zones,most of the people in those so called zones do not want to work or change they are looking for hand outs and with this they will get another one.Again the people that work will pay for them to sit home and draw checks.If they want help find a way to get them in school or find them a job! I have had to work 2 jobs most of my life.If you want to work you will.On the other hand i know in these times there are alot of people out of work that have worked all thier life,if you want to help someone help them.They will be productive later.As they say you cant keep making the same mistakes and have a different outcome,this is just more handouts with the same outcome.
I am sure that Mr Cain has thoughtfully considered the approach to poverty. Poverty is not a way of life and is not permanent. It is a sad period of time when American citizens have lost employment. When the 999 plan is passed, there will be jobs...and those that have had a temporary setback will be able to rise out of the poverty level...to hold their heads high and say...President Cain turned our country around. The once despirate situation that past Presidents have placed them in will be no longer. We are a nation of proud people. We do not want the government to permanently take care of us. We are strong..we want to be self sufficient...we want to rise again to be a thriving and economically powerful nation....The United States of America!!!!
Note: I am a supporter of Mr Herman Cain for POTUS!!!!! During the past three years, I too have been at one of the lowest places in life...in poverty. During that time I did not quit...I have continued to move forward with the utmost determination...and because of this....I am now coming out of this situation...pulling myself out... little by little....without assistance. I have worked every job possible and I will never ever giving up!!! You will get out of life what you put into it. Without self-effort...you will simply have a life of existance. With self-effort...your life will include quality!!!
I am sure that Mr Cain has thoughtfully considered the approach to poverty. Poverty is not a way of life and is not permanent. It is a sad period of time when American citizens have lost employment. When the 999 plan is passed, there will be jobs...and those that have had a temporary setback will be able to rise out of the poverty level...to hold their heads high and say...President Cain turned our country around. The once despirate situation that past Presidents have placed them in will be no longer. We are a nation of proud people. We do not want the government to permanently take care of us. We are strong..we want to be self sufficient...we want to rise again to be a thriving and economically powerful nation....The United States of America!!!!
Note: I am a supporter of Mr Herman Cain for POTUS!!!!! During the past three years, I too have been at one of the lowest places in life...in poverty. During that time I did not quit...I have continued to move forward with the utmost determination...and because of this....I am now coming out of this situation...pulling myself out... little by little....without assistance. I have worked every job possible and I will never ever giving up!!! You will get out of life what you put into it. Without self-effort...you will simply have a life of existance. With self-effort...your life will include quality!!!
I am sure that Mr Cain has thoughtfully considered the approach to poverty. Poverty is not a way of life and is not permanent. It is a sad period of time when American citizens have lost employment. When the 999 plan is passed, there will be jobs...and those that have had a temporary setback will be able to rise out of the poverty level...to hold their heads high and say...President Cain turned our country around. The once despirate situation that past Presidents have placed them in will be no longer. We are a nation of proud people. We do not want the government to permanently take care of us. We are strong..we want to be self sufficient...we want to rise again to be a thriving and economically powerful nation....The United States of America!!!!
Note: I am a supporter of Mr Herman Cain for POTUS!!!!! During the past three years, I too have been at one of the lowest places in life...in poverty. During that time I did not quit...I have continued to move forward with the utmost determination...and because of this....I am now coming out of this situation...pulling myself out... little by little....without assistance. I have worked every job possible and I will never ever giving up!!! You will get out of life what you put into it. Without self-effort...you will simply have a life of existance. With self-effort...your life will include quality!!!
Does anyone else find it ironic that Obama used "Yes, we can!" as a campaign slogan and then, after taking office, immediately started telling us all the things we can't keep doing.
Can't eat potatoes.
Can't drive a big car.
Can't keep your house 72 degrees all year.
Can't blah blah blah et cetera et cetera ad infinitum.
My response is, predictably, "Yes, we can!"
I support Herman Cain, and I hope you will too, this is our chance to reclaim the American spirit, freedom and the American Dream, support Herman Cain 2012, our next President of these United States of America.
You still are not understanding that this was a slow leak strategy to ensure that the general public would see you and those like you as the knee jerk reactionaries, without a shred of credibility that you are; the fact that you still don't get it and are doubling down only reinforces that view. I would feel bad for you, but you are dishonest and disparaging about a man whose shoes, you are not fit to shine. *THAT is correct usage of the term disparaging.
Go down about 60 posts or so and I will give you the right context in which to use the word correctly.
I will be putting more trust in President Cain than you. If your ideas are solid, there is still time to file.
Your argument is going to be that this is Unconstitutional? Man, I love you guys. I thought this process was going to be difficult. Mr. Cain's strategy is even sounder than I expected.
No, you and others got set up, because you jumped to conclusions, as you are doing right now. You have spent more time arguing against a plan that you never read, than it would of taken for you to read the plan in the first place.
No. not stupid, just disingenuous. He is not seeking to alter local taxes, just local policies that are hampering the ability of people to succeed.
She seems like a very competent representative, but I would like to see a less polarizing figure as the VP.
As long as the disagreement is logic based, you are correct. Otherwise it is just unproductive rhetoric and we have settled for that, for far too long.
Because part of the plan is that you must declare that area a right to work area. Which means that you do not have to recognize unions in your workforce. Hence, the weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Look at the average corporation tax, that is passed on to you by the business in the form of higher costs. did I mention school vouchers will be part of qualifying for the empowerment zone benefits?
What we need is to keep the status quo, or seize more of the assets of the rich. Maybe even raise the level of taxation on repatriated profits in order to ensure that we keep Trillions of dollars from being invested in our economy. After all, a prosperous nation has little need for a Marxist Revolution.
What we need is to keep the status quo, or seize more of the assets of the rich. Maybe even raise the level of taxation on repatriated profits in order to ensure that we keep Trillions of dollars from being invested in our economy. After all, a prosperous nation has little need for a Marxist Revolution.
well they will have to go through an exhaustive process with the government to relocate to an empowerment zone. There will be security checkpoints set up, and they will have to bribe their way through each one. The lives of their families will be forfeit, as the State will seek to make an example out of those left behind.....
waitaminute- We live in America, they can relocate, or seek change through their local representatives to turn their areas into economic zones.
So if he focuses on getting people back to work, as his first priority, he doesn't have your vote?
*facepalm*
We elect or re-elect Representatives and Senators to represent our desire us in Washington.
Could you elaborate? I don't believe that you understand the meaning of "disparages", and apparently 8 others don't either.
“Yesterday in an interview with Piers Morgan on CNN, I was asked questions about abortion policy and the role of the President.
I understood the thrust of the question to ask whether that I, as president, would simply “order” people to not seek an abortion.
My answer was focused on the role of the President. The President has no constitutional authority to order any such action by anyone. That was the point I was trying to convey.
As to my political policy view on abortion, I am 100% pro-life.
I will appoint judges who understand the original intent of the Constitution..who are committed to the rule of law know that the Constitution contains no right to take the life of unborn children.
I will oppose government funding of abortion. I will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. I will do everything that a President can do, consistent with his constitutional role, to advance the culture of life"
- Herman Cain
It's easy to cut a few million from the budget and say you've accomplished your goal of cutting spending... they need to come up with an actual plan. And only one of them has come up with a plan for major cuts and to balance the budget. They should all have plans like that!
Its dangerous... because the plan is revenue neutral, all those "sneakataxes" would be made up for with the sales tax. Plus the new taxes would be harder to reduce because of it requiring a super majority.
Still, all it would take is that super majority to make it just as gamable as today's tax code... and remember how close liberals were to a super majority just a short time ago. AND it would also take a super majority to lower the tax rate.
So...
If Cain was for the pre-bate before he was against it, is a pre-bate a bad thing to be against now or a good thing to retain?
If a pre-bate can only be accomplished with a federal "entitlement" Big Gov machinery, that is a bad thing, isn't it?
If Cain concluded that an "entitlement" would require Big Gov machinery to be established, and he then tweaked his own 9-9-9 plan away from a pre-bate and the "entitlement" element, that's a good thing, isn't it?
If Cain has tweaked 9-9-9 into an enterprise zone and 9-0-9 to benefit the poor AND benefit the rich, that is a good thing, isn't it?
Hang in there williamm, Cain might tweak his 9-9-9 / 9-0-9 plan to the point that you and I together in unison might say "uncle" uh, I mean, Mr. President.
Who knows until we know.
Art
I don't like the idea of introducing a new form of taxation (sales tax) without first getting rid of the existing form (income tax). Reagan did well to simplify the income tax in the 80's... but look at how much it's been gamed in the 20+ years since. We shouldn't give DC permission to do this to us again on both our income and consumption! It's moves like this that gave us the income tax in the first place 100 years ago.
Do you like being called a teabagger or racist? Please don't resort to name calling. We're all conservatives for crying out loud.
You may not agree with Paul's foreign policy, but at least give the man credit for his economic stances. He's the only candidate up there that predicted this recession and the burst of the housing bubble. He's also the only one that was against the bailouts.
I'm amazed at how many conservatives are in support of this! Reagan did well to simply the income tax in the 80's... but look at how much it's been gamed over the past 20+ years!!! 999 gives us both an income AND sales tax... just imagine how much both those systems will be gamed when lobbyists get their hands on them. We'll be paying taxes on our paychecks and our receipts.
We can't be introducing new forms of taxation... we need to work toward paying off our debt and then work toward a zero tax rate like we had more than 100 years ago.
He admits that 999 is revenue neutral... therefore, it alone won't do anything to jumpstart the economy. 999 is a way for politicians to tax our money every time we earn it AND every time we spend it... it's dangerous because it will be taken advantage of on both fronts.
Are you trying to be obtuse, or is this really eluding you? On another note, but relevant to your post; school voucher programs are part of the criteria to qualify as an Empowerment Zone.
Pre-bate vs. federal entitlement...
Good point.
Are you asserting that a pre-bate can only be possible as a federal entitlement?
I don't know if it can or can not.
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If anybody knows what they said and what they wrote, it is probably Herman Cain.
If the "last" thing needed is to "establish" a federal "entitlement" to provide a prebate as he mentioned in Claim #4 below, then Cain needs to clarify how to provide a prebate as he mentioned in the
>> YouTube clip - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg9fesMAvwA
without establishing an entitlement.
Read more: 9 responses to 9 false attacks on 9-9-9
>> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=356825
Claim No. 4:
The plan should have included a pre-bate to offset the sales tax.
Response:
The last thing we need is to establish another federal entitlement, which the proposed pre-bate would quickly become.
And it's not necessary.
The consumption tax replaces ones already embedded in prices.
It's not the prices that would increase, but the visibility of the taxes being paid. ... .
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Well, the educating of the people continues.
The result that Cain said he intended for the 9-9-9 plan discussion to produce is an educated people.
Art
Folks - I am in. 999 or 909, I am in. Which ever is better than what we have. It is honest. No one knows how much they pay now, the packaging is so deceptive, they don't know what they pay, but they know how much they got back in their #!%# refund! The 10,000,000 words of tax law is full of deception, We will not know all that we turn loose when that is eleminated.
No no no... adding a new form of taxation (sales tax) doesn't solve anything. If anything it will give lobbyists and politicans permission to game 2 systems of taxation on us... our paychecks AND our receipts.
Remember, Reagan did well to simplify the income tax in the 80's... but look at how much it's been gamed in the 20+ years since. We shouldn't give DC permission to do this to us again on both our income and consumption!
We need a candidate with a plan to drastically cut spending!
Yes, he is using the technique in reverse. You can already see results with the union fatties crying out. This man is no rookie in tax issues, he knows how it affects business and people. The plan revolves about making everything more efficient like it should be.
True. I think as time goes on Perry will get his skills together. He needs to hit at the jobs issue. That's his winner issue.
No income tax is what we want.
The end game is The Fair Tax - which means no income tax for anybody - only consumption tax.
Well I guess there's a lot of naive people but throwing out the tax code is what got Mr. Cain to the lead of the polls, so I can conclude that's what people really want to happen. It seems it always ends the same, put downs and name calling, oh well...
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