How Romney plans to take out Santorum

Then you need to listen to your own advice and vote for the nominee (whoever it is) against Maobama.

As the GReat One says: an orange juice can is better than Maobama!!

Agreed. We’ll still fight when others can’t… or won’t.

You’re right about us having to take back the Senate, keep the House, shake up and replace the Judiciary, and win the states. I agree 100%.

But I solidly disagree with “We would not be finished under Obama” – in some ways, we already are. A 27% increase in governmental spending, an average additional 1.2 trillion in debt each year he’s been in control, ignoring Iran and China and pissing on Israel, a global view and conformity with Europe, more spending, socialism, what he’s doing to American education, nearly 50% of Americans paying no taxes, over 40% of Americans dependent on the government, increased joblessness, gutting our military, being friends with our enemies and enemies to our friends, failed green initiatives, Holder and the justice department suing our states, increased governmental growth and bureaucracy, doing nothing about illegals, operation Fast and Furious, increased power to Czars, repeatedly bypassing congress, ruling against and ignoring our Constitution, sending troops to Libya and Africa without congressional approval, appointing liberals to positions of power and the Supreme Court, growing the Executive branch beyond what is appropriate, taxing America beyond it’s means, losing our triple AAA rating, excessive and unreadable regulations, increasing the welfare class, aggravating racial tensions, demonizing the rich, I can keep going…

And please, don’t think for a moment that Americans will rise up en masse to fight the corruption… they are accepting the lies and laying on their couches watching Dancing With the Stars. America CANNOT survive anymore from this corrupt socialist liar.

Well, many have… and they’ve begun to dig.

Stay thirsty my friend.

“Many of those companies that Bain bought were on the verge of failure. They had ridiculous union contracts. Bain gave some of those employees a chance. And Bain was about making money and there’s nothing wrong with that, we’re still supposed to celebrate capitalism arent’ we? ”

You fail to understand. It wasn’t about celebrating or denying capitalism. It was about incompetent or dishonest business practice.

“So Santorum wasn’t in office to support the mandate? Neither was Newt when he SUPPORTED IT IN MAY 2011 !! How do you explain that one?? On the two biggest core conservative issues Santorum is better than both Newt and Mittens:”

And yet, Newt says he is against the mandate, and so you basically sit here using “Newt’s a liar” as your number one argument. Either you believe Newt is going to repeal Obummer care and oppose the mandate, or you can call him a liar on it. There’s no way around it.

“1. Gov’t health care. Santorum never supported the gov’t forcing citizens to buy health insurance.”

He also doesn’t support Right-to-work, which would free employees from being forced to join a union in order to work. And unlike Newt, he doesn’t go back and say “I was wrong” to vote against it. He simply says he had no choice. That he is personally against it, but had to vote for it in order to play politics in PA. It’s basically a variant of Romney’s argument. It’s okay for my State to force people to join a union, but philosophically I’ll be against it while I run for President.

Oops, a black stain on Saint Rick’s white robe. It gets worse when you look at his voting record. He isn’t exactly the pure fiscal conservative you guys make him out to be.

And that really is part of the hypocrisy with these arguments here. They focus basically on bashing the other candidates (as they did from Cain on down!), while ignoring the real substance of what they are offering.

I challenge every Santorum supporter I come across to do one simple thing: explain how your man’s platform (and by platform, I mean, WHAT IS HE OFFERING TO DO. THE LEGISLATION HE IS IN FAVOR OF) is superior to Newt’s.

I asked you once already. I even mentioned it in the previous post. You didn’t tackle any of it.

Please try and explain the platform of Ricky, and how it is superior. The answer “Well, Newt is a liar who secretly supports the mandate and global warming” isn’t really much of an answer.

When you try to do this and fail, then you’ll realize that your Saint, with all his warts, doesn’t offer a plan.

Newt, with all his warts, offers a plan. And considering that we’ve had kind words from Sarah, endorsement from Mr. Palin, Cain, Perry, and other conservative heroes, I’m inclined to believe in that plan. Because, bottom line, Newt’s always been a fighter. He did good work for us in Congress before they drove him out. We NEED an attack dog to push for Republican supremacy and to tear down the current system.

We aren’t dating the candidate. But you sure do want to date Saint Rick. The real question is… which one has been known to bring in results, which one has been a known leader… and which one has the best ideas and strategy.

I defy you to explain it. But considering I’ve asked this multiple times to MANY Saint Rick supporters, I can pretty much guarantee I’m not going to get an answer that will actually cite anything Santorum supports.

“How did Santorum smear anyone?”

I gave you several examples. I understand that Saint Rick’s radiant glow probably blocked it out though.

“Santorum doesn’t pander. He stuck to his principles in telling Iowa he was against ethanol subsidies (Newt is for it). He also stuck to his support of the Iraq war which did him no favors in seeking reelection in 2006.”

Okay, Saint Rick voted in favor of START II, which disarms our nukes but doesn’t guarantee the Russkies will disarm theirs. And the Russkies are known to cheat… all… the… time. He’s voted in favor of the Chemical Weapons Convention, which prohibits us from using or creating Chemical weapons, but doesn’t really insure that our enemies don’t use them, specifically Russia and China… and… they… cheat… all… the.. bloody… time. He voted in favor to give supercomputers to the Chicoms. Presumably, the ones they didn’t already steal the plans to. He supported foreign aid to North Korea. He supported increases in defense spending, but opposed cutting non-defense spending. (I want more defense spending, and cuts in non-defense spending).

Oh, and he panders all the time using religion and alleged “true conservatism”.

He’s the true conservative though, so I guess all of this is “true conservatism”. His true conservatism is WHY we’re voting for him, after all.

Except he’s not the true conservative, and he’s not the only conservative.

The true conservative was Herman Cain, FYI, and Santorum hated his guts.

But all of this is ignoring what’s really important here. We don’t have a perfect candidate. Therefore, we’re looking for the best ideas.

You aren’t answering that with any of this.

“And Santorum was the floor leader as a Senator to pass welfare reform.”

Newt was pushing welfare reform since the 80s, and he was Speaker of the House when significant reform was accomplished in 1994.

Oops, but only Saint Rick does stuff in congress.

“Santorum will lower the rates to 10% and 28%. He’ll lower the corporate tax to 17% and 0% for MFG. He’s outlined a plan to cut $5T in 5 years. ”

I asked you specifically to explain…. how it is BETTER than Newt’s plans.

I for one oppose playing favorites with industries. I for one do not support monkeying around with the progressive tax rate. I for one do not support playing around with retirement ages for Social Security or other social programs.

I want to crush it all beneath my feet.

I’m a Fair tax guy… but the flat tax and flat corporate tax rate at 15 and 12 percent is far better than monkeying around with the current progressive system. It’s a step in the right direction. Santorum’s doesn’t make any steps at all.

If Newt doesn’t win, I doubt I’ll have the energy that will encourage me to get up and give a vote for the “lesser evil”, which is simply continued mediocrity. I’d rather become a sequestered monk somewhere in the mountains. I’ll grow a long beard and hair. Eat food that I grow or hunt myself. While all you bozos fight over who gets to be in the clown car, and in what order they should enter.

Don’t worry though, I live in Texas. Our votes always go for the Pub. But I imagine the turnout is going to be low in lots of places.

If it’s about their record, Newt’s record in congress is stronger as a leader than Santorum’s. He’s made serious enemies because he’s fought back even Reagan or the likes of Bob Dole years later when they began pushing for tax increases. He’s bucked his own party and always goes his own way.

Mind you, he’s not perfect, but his independence is a good sign, and the hate they have for him is a better sign.

Since neither record is awesome, the next step is their platform.

Newt’s platform is good, and because I know him to be strong in campaigning for the party, I also see an opportunity for us to retake congress and to push for a certain type of reforms that we truly need. We MUST crush the current tax code. We MUST privatize social security. We MUST take that kind of reform and apply it to every sector of government. We MUST reform education, the EPA, whatever, tear down organizations, burn it to the ground all these worthless things that only spend money and ruin what they set out to fix. I fully expect him to be fully involved in getting conservatives elected around the country. That, honestly, is one of the things that I like the most. He has experience in running campaigns and in getting people elected. The Presidency is not a one man show, we need men in congress to truly push through all the reforms we need.

And think about it. Your pure record guy doesn’t have any plans. So what if he’s a holy Christian who goes to communion? He’s dull as all heck.

“Overally Santorum has a good conservative rating. He’s never supported the mandate or bought into global warming. He’s great on national security. ”

Speaking of ratings, Newt is scored higher as a conservative than Santorum does by conservative organizations.
And both are higher than Ron Paul, probably because of Paul’s support for commie-foreign policy ideas.