Well, they didn't have enough votes and it can't come up until the spring session. But the corruptocrats in Chicago won't stop trying, despite the wishes of those "South of I-80" residents.
"Illinois Democrats trying to ban semi-automatic handguns and rifles, high capacity magazines".
Bet they aren't planing on trying to enforce that in the 'gun free zone' on the south side of Chicago. ;-) ;-)
I'm an early Viet Nam veteran and I understand most of these Illinois liberals probably never heard of A Shau Valley but that's alright with me. I earned my right to my guns even if there wasn't a sacred Second Amendment which grants me this right.
I've been a gun owner my entire life and I will never surrender nor register any of my firearms, ever. The FBI released a report today that showed more people were killed last year with hammers and clubs than rifles. Guns don't kill anyone. People, criminals and psychopaths, kill people.
I don't give a flip about Diane Feinstein, Joe Biden or Barack Obama, their cronies in the left wing news media, hollywood or anyone else who has a desire to infringe upon my constituional rights and/or disarm America. It will be a cold day in Hell before they succeed.
Hell of a fight in the A Shau. Glad you made it back. My dad was in Vietnam in '68-'69 with C Co, Rangers under First Field Force.
"Welcome Home Brother". I know where the A Shau Valley is.
We flew into a lot of 'Hot LZ's' getting you guys 'beans and bullets'. Took a lot of your 'Brothers' out in body bags too. :-( 'Nam Vets' are the last people you want to try to accost with a gun in our hands. ;-)
315th Air Div. USAF (C-130)
Viet Nam 66-67
Other than the headline i did not, nor will I read this tyranistic drivel. Though I will say that from the very nano-second that one thug, gang banger, hood, mentally ill person or any other person kills anyone in that State, every person that signed this garbage into law must be tried as co-defendants as accessories BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER THE FACT. In fact they need to be help for mass conspiracy to commit. This is shear lunacy at it's core.
Part of me wants these people to go after guns. The last time they successful went after guns, we got Speaker Gingrich. I can tell you that downstate Illinois has a lot of gun owners... many of whom have been voting Democrat.
Little O/T but just saw on Twitter: Sacramento homeowner shot 3 intruders, 1 is dead. No info on whether intruders were illegals but is known there were young children in the home, some for a sleepover. http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/01/03/read-react-sacramento-homeowner-shoots-intruders/#.UOYGAlJgBrA.twitter
The only state in the union that does not have a concealed carry law. The city of Chicago had a handgun ban for over 20 years until thrown out by the courts. Now the democrats in the Illinois legislature want to ban most handguns and the majority of rifles and shotguns.
Makes perfect sense to me. All you have to do is look at how well banning guns has worked in Chicago. I'm sure this new legislation will curb crime as well as it did in DC, that is until the courts throw this one out as well.
Update on Twitter from John Lott, Jr.: Illinois Senate pulls gun ban bill. May come up next session when Dems will have bigger majority
Until now, the conversation about tightening gun laws seemed to center around resurrecting the flawed assault weapons ban and banning high-capacity magazines. Neither of these measures would really do much to restrain rampage shooters, especially those with multiple semiautomatic weapons who had practiced fast replacement of the magazine.
Illinois has correctly zeroed in on the feature that makes rampage shooters so lethal - the semiautomatic action. The development of the semiautomatic action introduced an order-of-magnitude increase in the lethality of firearms, unanticipated by the Founding Fathers and appropriate only to the military (my uninformed opinion). How many of the Newtown victims would be alive today if the shooter had been using the Founding Fathers' weapon of choice - the flintlock musket......
So now we live in an environment where almost anyone over 21 can walk into a Wal-Mart, purchase a weapon with military-level lethality from a clerk who may or may not himself understand safe handling of the weapon. The purchaser is then free to walk out among us, untrained, possibly clueless, with this new weapon, and we're all supposed to be okay with that? I'm pretty sure that's not how the Army introduces new recruits to their weapon.
As for the second amendment argument trumping all else - if you were to channel the Founding Fathers (as I have done above), I'm pretty sure they would tell you that that the second amendment is now as obsolete as the third (and that the SCOTUS has pretty much botched their intent), since our awesome military and police forces down the local level make the well regulated militia that they referred to unnecessary for the security of this free state. In any case, they would remind you of the prominent placement of the term "well regulated" in the amendment, which the Wal-Mart scenario above certainly fails to achieve.
The US didn't have drones, a moooslim imposter in our WH using a drone to spy on and murder Americans, Sharia law, televised beheadings, gunwalking of high capacity weapons to Mexican drug cartels by the POS and AG, slaughtering of US Ambassadors for gunwalking in the Middle East, back in the founding fathers' day either. So your point, if there is one, is worthless.
Huh? You're right, I rambled. More simply, my intended point was that allowing random untrained citizens access to weapons of military-level lethality is a bad idea, serves no reasonable purpose, wasn't the intent of the framers of the Constitution, and doesn't make the world a better place for our kids.
Long live the "well regulated" intent of the Second Amendment.
>>the founding fathers were concerned about the "militia" being well-regulated, not the guns.<<
Correct. And "well regulated" at that time meant well trained.
As you so eloquently proven, liberals don't have the slightest idea about gun knowledge and gun safety. No one wants random, untrained citizens access to any forms of guns. To be a responsible gun owner requires one to be knowledgable about them and well-trained.
They also know what a 'semi-automatic' means. They also know what Wal-Mart sells at their gun counter and what requirements are needed to buy a gun.
And, btw, since there was no standing army at the time, the founding fathers were concerned about the "militia" being well-regulated, not the guns.
And yet, even without all that, the founding father's still feared the government becoming too large and tyrannical. Hmmm... Pretty smart, these old dudes.
My grandfather always bragged that he graduated 2nd in his class. Of course, there were only 2 in his class, but that's immaterial.
Nice one. The best part of his was the part about the musket. If I lived in the founding father's time and wanted to kill 26 people in a school, I'd never use a musket anyway. I'd round them up in the schoolhouse, lock the doors and burn them down. Anyone escaping would be killed with a sword or machete (I realize this is a guesome description and I apologize for that, but he fails to see actual facts - oh, much like Frank did, imagine that!).
I actually heard today about a woman who accidently backed up over her 9-yr. old daughter and killed her. And now someone is either suing the car company or pushing for legislation to make car manufacturers install rear cameras.
This is no different than gun law mentality. Ooooo! A life was lost with this product and so it should be regulated or removed.
So the list grows endless. Ban medications. Ban refrigerators. Ban the sun. All of these things can kill you... so based on leftists limited mentality, they must be bad. Liberalism is the side effect of low I.Q.s.
MN has children swallowing small batteries. So is a ban on batteries next? I say ban liberal parents because they give their young children toys with flat batteries to keep them occupied while they text, surf the net and do drugs.
What concerns me is this...if they can sneak in corporate pork into a fiscal cliff deal, they can sneak in gun legislation because we ALL know how legislators love to read...
Guess I'll show my age, but, I can remember in high school a lot of us guys took our knives to school. In grade school we carried pocket knives and high school we wore our knives in leather holsters on our belt. Man, we was cool. Teachers nowadays would convulse and I would be doing life without parole. I will always be clinger and pray to never have to defend with knife or gun - but I will without hesitation if family is threatened. We are in a sad state, aren't we?!!
Me too... I used to use my pocket knife to sharpen my pencil in class and nobody gave a darn about it. Do that now... (shudder)
I'm personally hoping the voting public in Illinois - that great bastion of liberal democrats who stand around with their hands out - loses the majority of their rights, and fast. No guns, no freedoms, pay more taxes, and sit down and shut up about it. Take your welfare checks and suck lemons. I have no sympathy for these folks, sorry. Yes, I know there are conservatives and decent Americans living there, but they are far outnumbered. Time for these blue states to suffer big. I want to watch it each and every day.
Here's another pretty good article:
And how's all that "gun control" working in Chicago these days? Oh, that's right, they now have over 500 murders to date, most of it gang violence. Strange, when Al Capone and the gangs were killing each other by the car load, nobody back then was calling for gun control. So why now? Could it be that the liberals and the socialists and the communists want something MORE than just gun control? And if you can summarily disregard the Second Amendment, why not the First as well? This is a road we do NOT want to go down on.
It never ceases to amaze me how these polititians make themselves rulers and lawmakers ,, when in reality they are our employees as tax payers...Government is out of control... they need to be reined in... people need to WAKE THE HELL UP... they are NOT rulers or dictators...we elected them to represent us the PEOPLE... not the PEOPLE to stand by and allow them to rule over us...
well damn it lets get out and kick their a**es.... i cant believe bonehead is still speaker... i had an appointment today, and just now found out... so i guess impeachment of bomba is never going to be brought up..
>>the muslims are our biggest threat to the US<<
Now there you go again blaming the religion of peace for all the crap that a small faction of them is doing. Just because they're killing people daily doesn't mean they're a threat. Just because DuhOne thinks their evening prayer is the sweetest sound in the world and actually gets to enter the prayer room of a mosque doesn't mean he's one of them, does it? (/sarc)
the problem with that is with this is not just a amature black president running the country like its his piggybank.. he his a fullblown dictator ... hell bent on distroying this country with every fiber of his being... this is the same way hitler , stalin, mao, chavez and all of the other dictators have done all thru history... the muslims are our biggest threat to the US because he has apeased them allowed them in every part of government... he is one of them and their goal is to bring down America...
There's no way we're going to stop these out-of-control idiots now. Because of this fact, I've adapted the view that the quicker we go down the quicker we can start rebuilding. The only good thing about crashing is it will ensure the demise of the liberal faction.
Impeachment will never be brought up because we don't have a single congress-critter with the nads to be labeled as the one to bring down the first so-called black preezy and be blamed for the riots that would undoubtedly ensue.
Great and Congress doesn't give a rip about the downgrade, instead they vote for more pork spending to reward Barky Boy's campaign donors. Be careful in DC!
With QE3 and QE4ever printing $85 billion per month, there was no way we would not get downgraded. It had to be seen by all of them.
sean hannity just said the The USA is getting another credit downgrade... OMG we will never last 2 years much less 4... we need to wake up and do something... not wait for next election in 2014 or 2016.. im headed to DC for the anti obama rally for the inauguration..
I'm ready. I am already up in the face of my Repub for voting to increase taxes, pork and add $4 trillion to the deficit. Some Repub he is.