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From your comments, you are acting just like a progressive and their is no objective reasoning in your analysis, just simple mindless name calling. BTW, as a libertarian, I find your trust in the government to be disturbing. Instead of calling people names like a "crackpot", why don't you actually research the side of the issue you disagree and find the flaws with it by comparing what each side has made claims too. BTW, Jones actually uses sources such as FOX and all other lamestream media outlets for the info he speaks about, I know because if you actually watch his telecast, he shows you the articles.
From your comments, you are acting just like a progressive and their is no objective reasoning in your analysis, just simple mindless name calling. BTW, as a libertarian, I find your trust in the government to be disturbing. Instead of calling people names like a "crackpot", why don't you actually research the side of the issue you disagree and find the flaws with it by comparing what each side has made claims too. BTW, Jones actually uses sources such as FOX and all other lamestream media outlets for the info he speaks about, I know because if you actually watch his telecast, he shows you the articles.
If you took a poll from those that have investigated building 7 for themselves, given that as true, you would have a super majority stating the same thing the judge did.
You folks might want to track down and read Charles R. Pellegrino's GHOSTS OF VESUVIUS re: downblast and WTC7.
If you watched Alex Jones every day, you would hear from a lot of politicians, architects, engineers, witnesses, watchdogs, ex-CIA and FBI, ex-secretaries of defense and presidential administration guys, video clips of BBC reporting building seven as collapsed 1/2 hr before it did with the building in the background, people working in the buildings telling their stories, etc. He has done more comprehensive investigations than the 911 commissioners. The same people say that they commission didn't want to hear their vital testimonies, while massive amounts of video of rescue personnel testimonies was kept from the public until recently. I'm sure firefighter and police testimonies are somehow a matter of national security. Everything else is.
New video being released shows debri shooting out the top of the building, and molten metal falling from it. It must have been a couch and some carpet on fire near a 1" metal beam. Just because these buildings are built with fire resistant coating on the beams and sheet rock doesn't mean that the furniture can't do it.
I've said this before, I believe that in most downtown metro cities most of the huge skyscrapers are already rigged for implosion for just this type of scenario...bomb, earthquake, etc...I think they brought it down on purpose to stop a domino effect from happening. They can never admit it or they'd be inviting terrorists that are already here from trying to blow these buildings up on their own with our own explosives AND they'd cause a massive uproar in our society at this point...they've lied about it so long there'd be no recovering from it.
I do not believe it was an inside job--like they WANTED to bring the towers or bldg 7 down, it was just a reaction to a terrible scenario that they made provision for maybe 10-40 years ago. No way to know for sure.
I have always been with the 9/11 Truthers on this one fact: The investigation wasn't a complete one and hasn't answered to my satisfaction the questions that are out there. I don't think thermite should have been detected anywhere near the buildings and it has.
Why has congress systematically pulled funding from the health care of 911 victims and rescue workers? You should research that. It is basically the same thing you are talking about.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. When did the word "truth" become associated with something bad? The original "truthers" are people like myself and apparently Napolitano here who just simply don't believe the official story. I actually think it's funny that Rivera is just now talking about the 1,300+ architects when this was something talked about years and years ago and everyone was like "Yeah...whatever, TRUTHERS."
I've also said this before. I don't really care about the 9/11 conspiracy anymore because I believe there were things left out and the public will never know about all of them AT LEAST until those of us who were alive during that time are all long dead and gone. That's just the truth of the matter...period.
You know if it were my relatives or friends that JUMPED out of those buildings I would want to know the truth...and we should be free to quesion our government and though sad...we should get the truth but on this topic those that MISTRUST the government for just about everything else suddenly BELIEVE them...America abandoned the so called TRUTH along time ago!
So if it is ok that we kill babies it is NOT POSSIBLE that anyone in the government...or whoever runs them would orchestrate anything that would harm any REAL PEOPLE?
Yep. Building demolitions start at the bottom, sort of like when the Twin Towers crashed to the ground near Building 7 with the force of several hundred tons of TNT. That's not so good for building foundations and ground floors, especially buildings like #7 that are already on fire due to burning debris falling into them.
Are you saying that you believe the firefighters who were gathered in the lobby and got blown to bits by explosions? Those that survived testified to this saying "there were multiple explosions in the lobby that went boom, boom, boom"? That must have been the boilers or something.
This is a non-story. Judge Napolitano supported going after Bin Laden. He wants to prosecute KSM, the mastermind behind the 9/11 plot, in New York (which people disagree with). He's not a truther.
Just by the tittle of his book "Lies the government told you" just sounds just like a truther book. But where they get in trouble is when they say lie and automatically think conspiracy with malice intent when in reality it is just incompetence and stupidly and then trying to cover that incompetence with stupid actions of not telling that it was incompetence and stupidly that made then try to cover.
We are still waiting for the wiklileak docs showing how 9-11 was done. If it was so convoluted than it should be easy to find some trace somewhere. If they can get 250,000 reports, 1 to 10 should not be all that hard. That is if it was really a inside job. But they (the truthers) should of just faked the documents to show that their inside job fake was real.
ANYBODY who gives Alex Jones two seconds of time, thoughts, concentration lowers themselves to the gutter of public dialogue.
now i feel better... :)
I guess the judge has grown tired of seeing his face on FOX news.Oh well,there's always satellite radio,the island of misfit broadcasters.
What's all the noise about? We clearly know this building was brought down by a missile launched from a Chinese SSBN,commanded by Marko Ramius, laying off Long Island on 9/11.
You and others are reading too much into his words. The Judge never asserted any cause, government or not, for the collapse of building 7. All the Judge said was that he doesn't trust the government to give people the whole truth about life changing events which are supposed to be prevented by their vigilance.
The judge's point is that you can't truth the government to now lie to you, and he's right on that point.
The judge shows that he has a critical flaw in his mind. He is worthless now in my opinion. I tend to be old fashion in the thought, that a man can say intelligent things 90% of the time, but if tells me the other ten percent about how Elvis is alive and working a Circle K in Nevada, he's nuts.
are you calling the 9/11 victims idiots???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-1GVknJjo
In addition to the Twin Towers and Building 7, the World Trade Center complex included buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6. Compared to Building 7, all of these buildings were severely damaged, first by falling rubble from the tower collapses, then by fires that burned for hours. Although these buildings were in critical condition, none of them collapsed.
If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.
Someone once argued that "pull it" meant using cables to bring the building down, not explosions. So they had a few hours to engineer, set up, and pull down the buildings with cables in the midst of everything else. It seems like there is always an answer for everything that makes no sense. The problem is the answer doesn't either.
You remind me of how the progressives behave when they come across someone that has an opinion that is different from theirs, a la Saul Alinsky: insult them. Call them names. Make them out to look like fools.
Judge Napolitano is now a friggin idiot in my book. Alex Jones always was... What a stupid and inconsistent move by Napolitano.
Geraldo has been one of the biggest truther bashers, and is now reconsidering the building 7 issue due to what the "Architects and Engineers" are saying, along with the video evidence.
What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson's phrase "QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS"? Glenn Beck uses it all the time, & I think it is worthy here, too.
Another phrase I use regularly is TRUST NO ONE. The truth will set you free, & that is what we should earnestly search for, regardless whether we like what it tells us or not. I have no idea on who is right on this issue, but I refuse to start calling a group of people a bunch of negative names (for example, "truthers" or "birthers") simply 'cuz I am willing to question with boldness what they have to say.
You do know that Thomas Jeffeson said that in realtion to wheather religion was a true system of beliefs or a series of myths created by men to control men? He was writing to his nephew Peter Carr and offered him advice on life and growing into a mature person.Jefferson was not instructing Carr to question trooferism,birferism,or insane government conpiracies,but rather to study religion and decide for himself if god was real or if it was all a lie and that there is no god.It's all Jefferson meant.Nothing more,nothing less.
There's no need to drag Jefferson's name into the mud.
Not only is it proper, but required to secure our freedoms in my opinion. If the public knows that they are not being told the truth, and they do nothing about it, then government will use that to their advantage in the future. It will only get worse unless we hold them accountable. Lets say that it wasn't coincidence that NORAD was training for the very same event the day it happened, which supposedly threw them off and stood them down. It would be good no make sure that didn't happen again. We are expected to believe that it was just a HUGE mistake, every time.
Yes Mickey, I'm aware of that. But if it's OK to question w/ boldness the very existence of God, is not not also OK to question much smaller things, such as whether or not we are being told the truth about 9-11?
I have no idea if the 9-11 truthers are right or not, 'cuz I haven't done my own research. But I think it is proper in a free society to question EVERYTHING.
You're being deliberately obtuse, his point in referencing Jefferson is easily apparent to any reader. He was channeling Jefferson to say that just as one boldly questions religious claims so to are we required to not grant the government our trust of every word they say simply because they are the government.
Hey Tony....
Glenn Beck's show just came on, & what is he talking about right now? The theme is this (& these are Glenn's words):
DON'T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT!!!!
He said that just as I was typing the comments above.
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