It is time to take the GOP over or start a third party, one that will appeal to both Tea Party supporters and Conservative Democrats. Karl Rove is only for himself and like consultants who FEED off the carcass of the RNC. He and his ilk generate millions of $$$ in fees and contracts to lose elections right and left. America does not need the "losing wisdom" of Karl Rove and others like him.
Our war should be with Obama and the communist/progressive/leftist supporters of him who are actively destroying our country. Mitt Romney is not our Pres. today because at least 5 MILLION conservatives and MODERATES refused to vote for him - mostly because he is a Mormon, partly because they believed the demonization of Obama's sleazy campaign of personal destruction and class warfare.
Obama wants to destroy the Republican Party - AND the Tea Party movement, people !
This article is from the NY Times - It is serving Obama's purpose by sowing seeds of hatred and discontent among conservatives and Republicans.
Don't buy into their propaganda . . . STAND against Obama and his thugs !
all I want in our leaders of any paty are men and women who serve us and, do not have contempt for us, and know the price of peas,that is are not so insular in their lives that they have no idea of our daily lives and needs.itis easy to fool constituencies not because we are stupid but because most of us do not lie,work hard,keep our commitments.what really makes me sad is how politicians among others encourage us to hate and dis miss one another,we are better than that
"HOPE OF THE WICKED" by Ted Flynn should be mandatory reading for those who want a real handle on the world today, especially US politics. As Franklin Roosevelt once stated, there are no accidents in US politics. Everything is allowed to happen, "everything is going as planned." Every High ranking politician is part of the plan to incrementally subvert the United States into "serfdom." Like railroad tracks, the "two party system" is bilateral, but connected in direction by the "head" of the "New World Order." Both Parties are packs of wolves, with one pack smelling blood and honing in on the kill while the other, fearful of the "sheeple" waking up to the direction they are heading, would slow the process down so the "sheeple" can return to Fantasy Land and be lulled into unawareness again. ("Into the boxcar, please. We are taking you to safety.") There is one plan, and it is being carried out. Obama knows, Rove knows. Read "HOPE OF THE WICKED," or watch "THE GRINDING DOWN OF AMERICA." Both illustrate the illusion of "We the People" being in control by electing our politicians, when in fact, the majority of politicians are subdued by the power, money and prestige of office. These people are no more than "useful idiots" and when their usefulness is over.... “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12
IIRC, the Establishment GOP candidates ... George Allen, Pete Hoekstra, Denny Rehberg, Rick Berg, Scott Brown, Tommy Thompson ... didn't exactly rack up a string of victories in 2012 either.
I'm kind of glad to see this. Pretty much anyone stupid enough to get on board Rove's Wagon Train to Nowhere will be painting themselves with a laser for targeting.
Note to the left: that's marketing terminology. I know that you lefties favor having the government take things from us at the point of a gun, but real prosperity involves marketing. You should try it sometime.
Interesting. As a brand new Iowegan (I just immigrated from the Pepole's Republik of Illinois) I need to start brushing up on the local politics.
I think the TEA Party should form an alternative conservative party and field its own candidates regardless of what the GOP Big Whigs do. Iowa would be a great place to start. The Big Whigs in the GOP are interested not in truly conservative candidates winning but in keeping Big Government and its largesse flowing into their pockets whether their candidate wins or loses. I believe that when given a choice between a genuine conservative TEA Party candidate and a Marxist Democrat the Big Whigs in the GOP will be more than happy to lose to the Marxist especially if the Marxist promises them a big payday down the road.
I think Romney lost primarily because he threw the fight as the Big Whigs in the GOP wanted him to do.
Recently Bobby Jindal has taken to task, and rightly so, "conservative" candidates who say stupid things that can be used to wreck their campaigns but I don't think he is part of this Karl Rove cabal. I think he was simply speaking about us doing stupid things.
But then again if he is trying to woo the favor of the likes of Karl Rove then I would be very diappointed in him, especially since I voted for him twice.
I think Jindal should woo the Tea Paryers who won the house for the GOP despite Karl Rove and Boner who wouldn't be speaker if not for the grassroots rising up in 2010.
The trouble is that most of us tea partiers are actually traditional Democrats and liberals of the late fifties and sixties who detest big government and big business.- each is equally dis-tasteful to us.
The National Socialist Republicans party knows this and will never incorporate individual- minded people.
You must protect yourself at all times against the moronic rabble and and the racisits and traitors to America and that is the only truth worth mentioning
I believe that the real problem in the CONSERVATIVE movement is the amount of division there is. The real problems are things like "old" class Republicans (McCain e.g.) that have been in office for so long that they are corrupted by the power they have and are really just liberals with a "R" after their name. All of us Conservatives, to a point, are to blame for the division as is the Divider-In-Chief. He plays the right like a guitar and laughs.
Look at all the people that voted for Ron Paul to "make a point", or Santorum because "he really won Iowa" or "just can't vote for Romney because he's a Mormon"
Obama has worked very hard to split as many groups as he possibly can just look at these few examples:
The rich vs. the poor
The blacks vs. the whites
Religion vs. Religion
Republican leaders in Congress vs. THEMSELVES
Pro-guns vs. Anti-guns
Obama is literally ripping the country apart single-handedly and the very people that sing his praises will be the first to suffer from Obama's agenda. Obama's advantage is is the 90% of the voting liberals are COMPLETELY on with his agenda and root him on. "Republicans" can't even get behind a single candidate.
I recently listened to Paul Harvey's "If I Were The Devil" I have the link here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGVCO6CByQ
If you have not heard this, take 3 minutes of your time to hear something someone knew would work 50 YEARS AGO. If that doesn't make you think, then nothing will.
There is a big problem between people who like Ron Paul, who can for the purposes of discussion be termed libertarians and/or paleoconservatives versus true conservatives who are a mix of social and fiscal conservatism and liked Allen West, Rick Santorum, and Michelle Bachmann to name a few.
I understand people are not always lock and step on the right and as such they vary with opinions on candidates and are on various locations on the right spectrum. But the libertarians who embrace the tea party have a differing opinion on major issues to the conservative base who embrace tea party philosophy and there lies the current conflict between those who oppose Obama and the left as well as establishment republicans.
There is a annual debate between the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation, which Rush Limbaugh promotes a lot, and the libertarian think tank Cato Institute, which people like Freedom Work's Matt Kibbe have supported. It highlights the current situation..
The point that I was trying to make is that many people on the right are allowing Obama to split them apart, while over 90% his base supports him. He plays the Republicans like an instrument and they allow it, not even seeing the manipulation. True conservative people should be really concerned, and I don't think it will be long before we see a modern day version of the "Night of Long Knives". If this continues much longer, we'll see a full scale assault on the American people. The founders had it right over 200 years ago -UNITED WE STAND: DIVIDED WE FALL
The two candidates mentioned in the article each made a stupid statement after they had won their primaries and became the party's nominated candidates. When they apologized for their remarks, the party should have continued to support those campaigns - at least quietly, by providing money for ads, etc. These guys may have still have won their elections if the establishment hadn't thrown them under the bus. It was too late to get new candidates; the GOP should have done their best with what they had.
I can't help but to wonder how much Obama is paying Rove to divide the Republican Party? With Rove attacking the very people who want to hold their Party to a higher standard, Obama won't have to do anything in order to crush his nemisis.
Divide and conquer. Rove's doing the dividing while Obama does the conquering.........
Thanks for nothing Mr Rove!
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Karl Rove is the worst problem that the GOP has ever had. He is responsible for losing the Senate the last two elections. RINO's follow him like the Piped Piper and he leads them right into the water to drown! These RINO's want to run candidates like Tommy Thompson. How did he do, KARL??? The establishment ruined Todd Akin. He was a good man. He was too conservative for the RINO's. He had an excellent voting record in the House of Representatives. Murdock was, also, a good man. Lugar was the one that was no longer conservative. He had not been for a long time.
Ironic that the GOP establishment/RINOs who have no conservative convictions are coming up with a Conservative Victory Program...? Do they realize they cannot win elections without the truly CONSERVATIVE base? Not to mention the fact that the rising starts of the Republican Party - Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz - are ALL TEA Party people???
What a bunch of idiots... self-centered dinosaurs who are more concerned with their own job security and political ambitions than doing what is best for the country! If they are so concerned about retaining current seats and gaining more, why didn't they support Michele Bachmann in the last election? The actively worked against some of the TEA Party candidates!
Sure some of the TEA Party candidates lose.... but Scott Brown lost too and nobody is more moderate than him! Those TEA Party candidates who lost might have won if the RNC had thrown their weight behind them!
It looks to me like they oppose the TEA Party more than they oppose the Democrats!
The Tea Party was the reason Scott Brown won the first time. When he got into office he abandoned the Tea Party, SO... the Tea Party abandoned him the second time around. He failed in the old quote, "You dance with them what brung you!”
I know... my sister and I campaigned for Scott Brown in an attempt to block Obamacare. And you are right, he betrayed the TEA Party and was co-opted by John Kerry when he reached the Senate. But I have my doubts that the TEA Party could have gotten him re-elected anyway. It was the issue of Obamacare that provided the support he needed for the first election... that issue was a moot point by 2012.
For them to think that pandering to the Left of center, illegal voting aliens, and voting for tanks and planes to Egypt, will give them job security, shows just how bad their thinking is.
Exactly right. They are as responsible as the Democrats for the mess we are in. Newt left us with a balanced budget, massive welfare reform, and a start on paying down the debt. He tried to get term limits and the REPUBLICANS blocked him! All of his conservative reforms were squandered by John Boenher and the RINOs who remained in office! Imagine if the GOP had cooperated and passed term limits.... we could be living in a very different America right now!
Nothing like fighting a war you will lose. Time for the third party and we the people to send the establishment packing.
Rove's motto is "Better a Democrat than someone who is not one of us.!" Rove would rather see the Democrat win.
Insanity is having the same behavior and expecting a different outcome.
Until you adopt Rove's motto for your own the corrupt Bush crime family will continue to win because you back down and enable them. And, they already know you will back down because like they told you so in 2012, "You have nowhere else to go!"
Couple that with the fact that once the conservative does win the corrupt gopE attempts to buy them off. You want examples? The Bush crime family told Rubio to wait his turn in Florida. He didn't listen. They bought him off. The same thing happened with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.
We Floridians detested Senator Bill Nelson for years. But right here in Jebbie Bush's state we told him to go to hell and refused to vote for Connie Mack because yes, "Better a Democrat then someone who is not one of us!" Bush politics is ruining the conservative brand because there is nothing conservative about them. They are Big Government and corrupt through and through.
The next time that someone mentions that we should be getting along, I will point out that it's obvious that the moderates HATE conservatives just as much as a liberal does.
Ugh, if you could see the look of scorn on my face right now! Rove? Why am I not surprised....pssssttt...
This is why the republicans lost the last two presidential elections. We need more conservative republicans. We don't need the same old people.
Conservative Republicans is an oxymoron.
Unless they've got the guts to walk away from the Stupid Party "conservative" Republicans are serving to assuage the base so the leadership can continue selling us out.
I guarantee Ted Cruz will either be turned or he'll be undercut in Texas like COL West.
If you want change you've got to abandon the GOP. Let it rot.
The Bush clan, Rove, and the establishment has destroyed our party, and meanwhile Obama is laughing his a.ss off. It all started when Reagan nominated Bush the first for Vice President, Bush a guy that fought Reagan all the way, and then used Reagan to get into power, I blame the Bush clan for having Obama being elected twice.
As far as Rove he is nothing more then a democrat who has infiltrated our party, and the results are outstanding, lets look at the results: Obama got reelected with 23 million people out of work, gas prices doubled what they were when he got elected the first time, a guy that signed into law Obama Care, a guy that has disrespected our constitutional government, a guy that in 3 and a half years has added 6 trillion dollars to our debt, and I could go on, and on.......During the last elections Rove wasted 300 million dollars and got one candidate elected, while he mentions that some Tea Party members lost, he fails to mention that all the liberal candidates he supported lost as well.
You said that if "they want a war, they are going to get one"
Mr Rove my response to that is bring it on.
It is my opinion that this is in response to Governor Palin's decision not to sign with fox again and her reasons why. Rove is in no way a common sense constitutional conservative and neither are these donors all they want is to control. Rove has been the mouth piece for the GOP elites in DC and the Bush clan. They are all responsible for BHO getting 4 more years. Their candidate, you know the only person who could win LOST! Ailes of fox hired Rove because he is part of the GOP establishment. Ailes did not sign Governor Palin to be on fox Rupert Murdock did and impersonally think Ailes was not to happy that his boss did that. This is not about getting conservatives to run this is all about Governor Palin's not signing with fox and free to say the TRUTH about what is going on in DC and the GOP elite establishment. Mark America said in his article Sarah Palin will STAND and he went on to say he will STAND with her. There are millions of common sense constitutional conservatives and Tea Party people who will STAND with Governor Palin. Rove you want a war? You will get one as Breitbart said we are no longer going to sit down and shut up. Message to Rove and his pac of donors "GAME ON!"
It is the message of individual rights, limited government, accountability, and personal responsibility that creates a stir among some members of the GOP, but it is a message whose time has come.
Their "establishment" candidate, ie most electable in their eyes was a loser. They conveniently forget that little factoid. Rove and his ilk as well as all of the other former Bush people need to relinquish their hold on our party. We have outgrown them and their "go along to get along" political philosophy that makes the Republican Party weak and feeble.
Perhaps it's Ron Paul saying that we are hated because we occupy their land in the middle east, when reality - history shows Thomas Jefferson fought against us because we are infidels who didn't worship Allah!
And in the meantime O is laughing at his republican enemies as they try to destroy each other.......
If we keep this up it really will be the death of the republic.
They can't win without us, and we can't win without them. Homosexual marriage, Abortion, Atheism, the country has come under God's judgment. That's why 0bama is president. Dan 4:17 ....the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
The Republican establishment is encouraging the creation of a powerful (conservative) third party hat will eventually replace the GOP.