Rush just brought up the fact that had this been the law when Nixon was President he could have sent a hit squad to kill Bill Ayres and his Weather Underground people. Interesting.
It's also a thought, and a very disconcerting thought, that this ruling can be interpreted to apply justification for the assassination of anyone who opposes Obama, he being the "leader" of our government.
This ruling is so open ended and ambiguous that there is no end to how it could be applied.
Sounds like they can define "associated organizations" or "imminent threat" or "activities posing a threat of violent attack" as anything and anyone they wish..
I have mixed feelings about this, On one hand I can can see where it could become a slippery slope. On the other my thoughts are if someone is actively engaging in terrorist attacks on foreign soil against the US government then in essence they have renounced there American citizenship and are fair game. And there are times when due process is suspended when lives are in danger. It's like if a guy is shooting up a crowded mall, the police are not going to worry about due process or giving him a fair trail, there going to shoot to kill. However the rules for such drone attacks should be clearly defined, and should never be used on American soil.
So technically by supporting Morsi in Egypt with tanks and F16 jets Obama is supporting Islamic Terrorists would make him at a minimum ‘an associated force,’right? I think you know where I am going with this, he could be painting himself into a corner.
Since when does the president have sole authority to spy on or attack US citizens?? Somebody, somewhere needs to find a way to stop Obama from his madman tendencies! I read this last night and when I retired I spoke to the Highest Authority I know; my Lord to save us from this evil known as the Obama administration.
"But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen."
What happened to due process? Your neighbor who hates you for witnessing to him, or keeping your yard neater than his could turn you in as a leader of a Muslim hate group and/or plotting a terrorist attack. Would anybody check it out first? Once you're gone, there's be no way to defend yourself. This cannot be constitutional. I pray that somebody is taking this to the courts.
Surely you realize capture is not always an option. There are some situations in which you cannot risk Rangers & Special Forces, and killing becomes the only option. However, Obama is to risk adverse. His lack of understanding of special operations forces is the problem; he has no understanding of their capabilities. As long as we have this lilly covered president, continue fighting the war on terror like a whack a mole game. That, and his willingness to prosecute American servicemen is a threat to military forces and operations, everywhere. While this does eliminate terrorists, this tactic is a threat to national security, not a benefit.
Next thing you know there will be the same non restrictions put on every one of those one and a half BILLION rounds of hollow points purchased by the Social Security Administration and Homeland Security.
Drones can go after U.S. citizens connected to Al Qaeda, interesting. Does that mean Al Gore-zeera is on their hit list?
Watch for stories on how someone "died mysteriously" with no witnesses and no arrests being made. American Revolution II is coming very soon. Stock up NOW, before it's too late. Obama hates this country and it's citizens and will go to any length necessary to destroy us all and put himself and his communist pals in charge forever.
Obama thinks like a typical liberal. If you drop a bomb or fire a missile at somebody, it really isn't murder. But if you get up close and personal and waterboard somebody, then by all means it's torture. Liberals never want to get their hands dirty when comes to the messy work of anti-terrorism, which is why drone strikes are just fine with them. But if you ever have to do some heavy lifting and actually take out a terrorist on the ground or interrogate them, then let Eric Holder deal (or not deal) with it. I'm only stunned that Obama just didn't bomb Osama bin Laden rather than attack him with Navy SEALS. That would have been the very liberal thing to do. Oh well, I guess there's a first time for everything.
...an “informed, high-level” official of the U.S. government may determine that the targeted American has been “recently” involved in “activities” posing a threat of a violent attack and “there is no evidence suggesting that he has renounced or abandoned such activities.”
Of course, we know 1) a 'high level' official would be Obama, 2) a 'targeted American' would be a right-wing conservative, 3) 'activities' would include posting on TheRightScoop, and 4) 'renouncing his activities' would mean starting to post on MediaMatters and HuffPo.
Head for the bunkers, Scoopers and Scoopettes. It's time to bugout.
Kinda reminds me of HK's (Hunter/Killers) from The Terminator.
This is a repulsive option... but I will say, secure the borders and there may be less domestic targets to deal with. Stop spending money you don't have Obama and we might be able to hire more skilled ground forces to deal with the bad guys. And stop being an idiot... oh wait, that's probably too much to ask.
Too many liberals like Mr. Morgan asked why citizens need automatic weapons, or if we, the American people should be allowed to have a tank. With stories like this the answer to Mr. Morgan and all the other liberal idiots is hell yes. If a drone strike can be ordered without due process, then we should no longer worry about legal means as this administration is circumventing the law to do as it pleases anyway. Viva liberty.
One way to show our disaproval is as follows:
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Meaning that if we get too 'restless' because of his attack on our 2nd amendment, or any other, he can start attacking us. All he has to do is claim we're a possible terrorist threat. Remember that schools are starting to refer to the Boston Tea Party as a terrorist action. I smell a set up. I'm starting to think Beck is right. We need to rebel like MLK did... for now.
The threat to the target is not the aircraft, it is the pilot.
Two bases in Nevada run most of our drones. If locally controlled, those locations too will be known.
As the Oath Keepers ask, will those among us who have taken the oath to defend the Constitution against enemies, foreign and domestic, give such orders? Carry out such orders?
But not to worry. My nephew is in the Pentagon under the Predator drone program. He says the co-ordinates for all US citizens coincidentally match the WhiteHouse golf course (you didn't hear it from me).
It's only posed as a question, don't ya know. Hope the admin was studying the Somalians in Mpls while they were here yesterday, we already have convictions on them sending money and their sons back to terrorist organizations.
Yeah, I was going to say that, but it would have been construed by the paid WhiteHouse flunky who reads our posts as a threat to the President. Gotta be careful, you know.
Drone strikes on U.S. citizens are assassinations. The Soviet Union used to do that sort of thing.
The way things are going, if the earth opened up and swallowed Washington DC, I wouldn't know whether to feel shocked or relieved.
This is so vaguely worded - on purpose - that it is very easy to imagine the POS administration using it to kill 'suspects' on the US Mainland, and these 'suspects' can easily be people other than al qaeda terrorists.
Why is Congress not standing up against this? Are the afraid of being 'droned'?
"Why is Congress not standing up against this?" I remember the Congress' overwhelming approval of a Bill allowing American citizens to be disappeared indefinitely, basically because the Powers that now be ruling over U.S. don't like the way they part their hair. Current VA Legislative session had a Bill that would require the Feds to notify VA Gov. Officials if any VA citizen was taken under that Bill. Our turncoat R controled Legislature watered it down to say no VA Gov. Official could assist the Feds. in the taking of a VA citizen. Many other turncoat twisting or outright killing of some really good Bills by our R controled Legislature this session. Meanwhile most likely better than 60% of VA citiens even know or care the Legislature is in session and of those most likely only 10% could name even one Bill the session has brought up. And then people wonder what happened when the bomb drops on them. I'll also use this as excuse for why I have been so cranky these past few weeks.
As for being cranky (not that I noticed!) about people's deep disinterest in what their elected representatives are doing: I'm permanently cranky, with crankiness hitting the roof on 'special' occasions, like today's vote in Parliament about introducing a bill for 'Gay Marriage'.
The LIVs on both sides of the Atlantic are breeding like rabbits, it seems. Feelings are all that matter, and slogans.
Legal issues - not so much ...
It will be repealed when the next potus is elected, along with many of the other dictator rules this admin has put in place. No way they will allow a repub potus to have this power.
US Constitution 5th Amendment "No person shall be.... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law... "
How hard would it be to set up a process to have a judicial review of the decision? Have a Federal Judge on speed dial.
This is scary, because for them, the really neat part is that after they've dropped one on you, and your dead, you can never prove you weren't one of those ‘senior operational leaders’....and even if someone else did prove your innocence after the fact, it doesnt do you any good, because you're still dead. We have evil people in positions way way beyond their limits of morality.