deeme wrote, in response to tinlizzieowner:
"You know what I don't get is they interviewed...Asians and Hispanics and asked them whether they would rather have less taxes and small government or more taxes and bigger government and they all said bigger government..How come they don't recognize the "crap holes" they left...???"
They're like the the North Easterners we have filling Florida right now. They bring what they know with them and expect us to accommodate them.
Case in point, I had a snotty old lady come into the store where I work asking for a copy of the New York Times. When I told her we don't have the NY Times, she got real indignant and said "well, where can I get a copy". I told her to go up to the next intersection, turn right, go to I-75, turn north and go 1,300 miles. My boss almost spit up his coffee. ;-) ;-)
It is so very sad that the proponents of gun control are USING this woman! Just despicable! Just as they used the Brady's!!
Sorry for your trauma, and glad you survived, Ms. Giffords.
As for your plans to infringe on the Second Amendment,
Come and take them.
And by the way, are you aware that a strong negative correlation exists between gun restrictions and homicides, worldwide? And that in Sweden, which has very strict gun laws, the number of Rapes keeps increasing, so that, by 2008, it was already the second-highest rate of rapes per 100,000 per year, at over 53, among all countries. So now people estimate (hey, it's probably a ballpark figure, so don't get all excited) that one in four women in Sweden will be raped in their lifetime. That's a lot of women who probably wished they had some way to defend themselves. But the Swedes gave up their rights to own guns, just like you want us to do here. You want our guns.
Come and take them.
Oh, and did you know that we have unalienable rights, guaranteed by our creator, which the Federal government is expressly forbidden to infringe upon? And yet you join in the cries to infringe upon them at the federal level. To take away our right to own and bear weapons capable of defending ourselves from a tyrannical government.
Come and take them.
You will find that the People will insist upon enforcing the Constitution, which is the law of the land, regardless of your opinion. The people have a right to keep and bear arms. You would do well to remember that we plan to do exactly that. But if you insist,
Come and take them.
Quote- "Of the 140,000 Jews who had lived in the Netherlands prior to 1940, only 30,000 survived the war. This high death toll had a number of reasons. One was the excellent state of Dutch civil records: the Dutch state, prior to the war, had recorded substantial information on every Dutch national. This allowed the Nazi regime to determine easily who was Jewish (whether fully or partly of Jewish ancestry) simply by accessing the data."
This is an example of what govt controlled registration of every citizen's private information can, and will lead to. In this case, gun registration information of each and every person if the country.
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine~
“Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety.”
"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of law and in the name of justice."
~Charles de Montesquieu~
"The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it."
~ Elmer Davis~
I have a lot of sympathy for Gabby Giffords, but if she continues to use her personal tragedy to push a political agenda, then she is fair game for criticism.
What would be the reaction of the Left if Giffords were a republican pushing a pro-gun agenda???
I agree, Ms, Gifford...Congress does need to act. There is a long list of things, such as passing a balanced budget and fixing our economy, that are far more important than the liberal propaganda you and your husband are peddling.
I realize this woman was shot and that's really horrible. Other people were killed, that's horrible too. But I'm sick of this emotional BS. She's being trotted out for a reason, so that our side will not criticize her. I'm not here to criticize her, but gun control is not the answer. The empirical evidence shows that gun control doesn't stop violent crime. The question we should be asking of Ms. Giffords is, it's well known during the investigation of Loughner that he had stalked her for years. He had said things to school mates that were not right. He was sending her weird correspondence, possibly hidden threats. Why didn't she notify the authorities? Why didn't the school notify them that Lougher was a cracker short of cheese? Same in Newtown. Lanza appeared at the school days before and caused problems, was possibly violent and threatening. Why wasn't the authorities told?
I wish Mrs. Gifford's would look at the whole picture and see that she is putting the public in danger of the exact same experience she went through. Gun control is a facilitator of these horrible acts.
We saw this first with Jim Brady, of course. One could say Gifford and Brady speak with authority, but they speak from an extreme experience which has BIASED them. How can they be objective about the issue? The can't. And that's not altogether a bad thing, because experience is a powerful voice. However, it is not objective, and we need to realize this.
No Gabby WE do not have a problem as most gun owning people are simple everyday people minding there own business. The people with the problem are the crackpots of the world which you are trying to group us into. You know the percentage of killings with the AR-15 "assualt rifle"? Less than 1 percent. And if you are so against guns empty out your house of all guns and ammo and take the lead. Good thing the liberals are not exploiting your plight.
"It’s amazing that Gabby Giffords has been able to survive such a horrible ordeal in her life and because of that I am a bit more sympathetic to her point of view and am certainly not going to denigrate her."
I will. She and her husband should first of all apologize to Sarah Palin and the Tea Party members who were shamelessly smeared only for political maneuvering. It was one of the most vile spectacles I've ever seen.
This is what it is all about, no facts, no proof and no way any of this will keep a single person safe. It is all about feelings.
I was a cop for thirty years and I can tell you that universal gun background checks will effect no a single criminal.
ha ha! fools your toy guns won't save you! you underestimate HIS power! the beast, 666, satan, the devil, the dark lord, the prince of darkness! he's so powerful that you will join him in time! this world will end in fire ,all of tea party toy soilders with it! you all are nothing to him ,easily wiped out! only at the end times shall you humans finally understand ,or maybe not. that it was all for nothing! you humans shall submit and die ,or wait till HE does it! for all your sins you shall make HIM as POWERFUL as GOD if not MORE! ALL THIS SHALL BE ON AMERICA'S HEAD SATAN WILL THANK YOU FOR IT!
I'll denigrate her. when the shit hit the fan she caved.
she found out that freedom isn't free and is unwilling to pay the price.
Tell ya what, Gabby. You find a way to get back the high power weapons that Odumbo gave to the drug cartels in Mexico. While you are at it, guarantee that you will have criminally insane people executed on the spot instead of allowed back out into society. Then find a way to create the Utopia you and the liberal ilk, who are exploiting you to push a failed agenda, by making all the criminals give up their high powered weapons. You can't and even in your brain damaged state, you know you cannot. I'm sorry for your tragedy, but I will not give up my God given right and Constitutionally protected right to protect my family! Shame on your political party for exploiting you and shame on your husband for allowing it!
Was that a gun free zone that Gabby was shot in? If it was shouldn't she be promoting ccw in public/mass murder places in stead of gun control?
Is it just me or does her husband give you the creeps??? I was just at a construction convention in Texas and he was the guest speaker. This guy has done more to trade on his wife's tragedy than Piers Morgan...
Liberals are shameless...How many of you know that former Attorney General John Ashcroft's wife was a rape victim??? Ever see him hitting the talk show tour or asking for recognition as an expert on rape victims???
I bet Mark Kelly runs for Congress as a "tribute" to his wife...
I am sorry for her plight, nobody should have to go through all she has. And here comes the "but", I am so tired of "victim" stories. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something constructive with your experience. Trying to curtail one of basic rights is not noble. We all have a story to tell, we just don't feel the need to bore others with it.
I learned many years ago about the democrat party, they are the party of death. What ever' area they control is a complete failure of trust and production, honestly by the numbers a failure, and for them as a party to bring this lady out as a example as to why America needs deeper anti constitutional gun control is a travesty to reality. Respectively the shooter is the problem and Not finding a gun to commit the crime. When you have a maniac running loose you don't need less guns, you need more guns to stop the shooter, for protection, especially when they have murdered, you know the cost up front, isn't it called self perservation 101? of course.
G-D bless this lady, she has been through enough already.
We can be pretty sure that Gabby Giffords doesn't have the brain capacity any more to come up with these bills. The progressives wrote it and put it in her name for the sympathy effect.
I'm also pretty sure she exceeds Pelosi and several others in brain capacity though.
Someone uses a gun to kill - they want to take everyone's gun away
Drunk driver kills people - they just want to punish the driver, NOT TAKE EVERYONE'S CAR AWAY!
Brady and Giffords. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You want an insurrection, keep fooking around Dhimratz and you'll get one.
Gabby is alive, the others are dead and no one remembers their names.
Her medical bills are forever on the taxpayer. When a construction collapses and many injured or die- do we ban construction of buildings? Be happy you are still alive Gabby -do not punish all good people for your unfortunate incident by a nut job leftist. Taking guns away will only fuel violence Gabby
And fuel the populace to ignore everything coming out of your mouth. She could have been a positive voice for investigation of threats, but nope, go after law abiding citizens instead. Nothing more than a progressive who's 15 minutes of fame is long past.
I find it ironic that leftists are after decent law-abiding people instead of their fellow leftist looney tunes criminals who keep commiting these crimes. Instead of listening to the ACL_FU) on mental heath issues, they should get a second opinion from someone with a working brain. These appeals to emotion are the mark of anarchists, cause that's all they got. Its just like the founders said: true Democracy is nothing but mob rule. That's why they chose republican govt.
Yep. They give criminals tenure and traitors cabinet posts. These sorry a$4 people are the lowest form of life.
First, their only interest is to eliminate political opponents, then they will go after the infirm, undesirables, then they will go true criminals.
They need the criminals to help them with the extermination.
Keep a couple things in mind.
The guy who shot her was a liberal, not the 'right winger' he was first implied to be.
Her best friend is Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
The part of her brain that was shot out, was what little was left of the common sense part she had, in the first place.
Am I being callous? Maybe so but if she wasn't being used as the 'poster lib' for draconian gun measures and just retired, I might not be.
... joseph storey and james madison on the second amendment and the role of guns ...
Universal background checks by feds (stopping transfer of personal weapons at their will), mental health checks linked to private healthcare records, and, magazine capacity limits, will give them all they need to threaten, intimidate, conduct random searches, persecute, prosecute and restrict gun sales over time.
All these tools of the tyrants may sound innocuous but are the camel's nose under the tent. They will be cranked up. Their goal is gun control. Compromise is slavery.
If the House does not stand united, as a complete and absolute firewall, against the totalitarian gun grabbers, our last line of defense is gone and we are on our own.
Her husband should be ashamed of himself for allowing the left to exploit his wife!Oh,I forgot.The left has no shame!
Dear Republicans in Congress. Now is a time for choosing.. Will you stand by the People and the Constitution against a clear and blatant usurpation of our government by the Executive Branch and your complicit colleagues in Congress? Or, will you chose to join this usurpation?
No matter how well you think that you and your State Media have misinformed and deceived the citizenry, there are millions of us who understand exactly the juncture at which we stand. We know that any legislation to further restrict our inalienable rights to bear arms, is a clear and intentional violation to the 2nd Amendment which prohibits you from taking such actions.
Should you make the wrong choice, you leave us none, and will find yourselves on the wrong side of history.
Here is the GUN PROBLEM in NEWTOWN, as this mother reveals, it is across our WHOLE NATION:
This was inevitable.
While I condemn what happened to her, I had no doubt she would be exploited and become the Democratic face for gun control.
Frankly, I find this rather evil... yes, she has every right to speak out... but when you couple that with the fact that she's a Democrat and we know how they like to surround themselves with children and victims, I find this unsettling.
And no doubt... the dumbmasses will swallow this whole... drawn to this lie like moths to a flame.
Gabby could do so much more with her life...
Just think if she used her experience to champion mental health programs and research instead of exploiting her condition to strip everyone in the country of our God given (or natural for those who don't believe in God) rights to defend ourselves.
I feel terrible about the shooting and her terrible injury. I also recall the parents of the little girl who was Killed that day did not want the tragedy to be exploited for the purpose of gun control. Too bad Gabby isn't honoring their wishes.
I schpoke too soon, Sober.
Christina's folks are now on the other side. Not to take away ALL our guns, just the bad ones donchaknow. Nothing about the mental illness of the operators. I have empathy for their little girl being murdered but we can't forget that these people are madmen. The guns don't go off on their own.